- Meeting 2011-06-02
- Chair: Matt Zimmerman
- Present: Scott James Remnant, Kees Cook
- Apologies: Colin Watson, Mark Shuttleworth
Meeting transcript and topical links: http://www.novarata.net/mootbot/ubuntu-meeting.20110602_1256.html
- ffmpeg vs. libav
- The ffmpeg project has forked upstream into ffmpeg and libav
- Ubuntu is currently shipping libav only, because the ffmpeg package maintainer chose to package this version
- The consensus of the Technical Board at the meeting was to regard these as separate software projects, which implies:
- The choice of what to package is rightfully made by the maintainer. The Technical Board does not decide what software individual maintainers choose to package.
- If another developer wished to package ffmpeg for Ubuntu, this would be welcome
- If that were to happen, we would address any technical conflicts as they arose
- Setting the Ubuntu series release manager in Launchpad to ubuntu-release
This was proposed in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bug/174375/comments/21
Bug 451390 is now fixed, so this can proceed
- The TB members present at this meeting did not feel confident enough to make a decision about whether we should proceed immediately, and wanted more input from members familiar with archive administration
- Deferred to the next meeting
- Measuring installation success/failure
- Evan Dandrea proposed that we collect data on successful vs. failed installation attempts from end users
- The TB was asked for a policy ruling on whether this would be acceptable, or under what conditions
- Various concerns have been raised, including:
- Implementation considerations, such as whether useful data can be collected without leaking identifying information
- Utility considerations, such as whether this data would in fact be useful for improving the installer
- Privacy considerations, such as whether it is appropriate require explicit consent from the user before sharing this data
- Transparency considerations, such as whether the raw data collected should be shared with the general public
- The discussion in the meeting focused mainly on the privacy concerns
- No clear consensus was reached, and clearly more discussion is necessary
- To be continued by email and in the next TB meeting
- Policy proposal for partner repository
Nicolas Barcet submitted a proposal for a technical policy to be applied to packages in the Canonical partner repository: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2011-May/000875.html
- There was some discussion of whether this policy should be unified across the Canonical partner repositories and the -extras repositories
- It was suggested that some reference should be made to the Ubuntu Policy Manual
- To be continued by email (time pressure)
- Launchpad stakeholder for Ubuntu project
- Bryce Harrington confirmed his willingness act as a Launchpad stakeholder on behalf of Ubuntu
- ubuntu-techboard celebrity in Launchpad
- Francis Lacoste proposed a code change to Launchpad which would affect the permission model for Ubuntu branches, and asked for input from the technical board
- No issues were raised other than those already raised by James Westby by email
- Meeting 2011-06-30
- Chair: Martin Pitt
- Present: Mark Shuttleworth, Colin Watson, Kees Cook
- Setting the Ubuntu series release manager in Launchpad to ubuntu-release
- No further problems with this expected, Colin agreed to doing the switch
- Things to check:
non-release-team core-devs can target tasks to oneiric * (already tested)
- non-core-dev release team members can modify oneiric milestones
Measuring installation success/failure, updated proposal from Evan Dandrea
- the purpose of collecting the data is to make Ubuntu better
- while we won't make the data entirely public (avoiding unexpected privacy concerns, and competitive questions), people with technical/research projects who have a need for it can ask the TB for data (this includes Canonical employees)
- for opt-out we need to write a privacy policy
- people who are concerned about what data we're collecting can of course examine the client source code; we won't correlate IP addresses with this
- we need to discuss data security (against theft) with IS
- This proposal, under above conditions, got 4 out of 4 votes from the present TB members; for the record, Scott James Remnant mentioned that he'd prefer having all the data being public
SRU microrelease exception for Banshee
Upstream clarified and documented patch backporting and QA policy: https://live.gnome.org/Banshee/StableReleasesPolicy
- Got 4 out of 4 votes from the present TB members, accepted; wiki page updated accordingly
DMB voting procedure was discussed quickly, but we ran out of time. Will be discussed via email or carried to next meeting.
Policy proposal for partner repository: Ran out of time, carried to next meeting.