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(07:44:55 PM) The topic for #ubuntu-us-tx is: Dec 5th meeting - http://texasoss.org:8000/uta-1nuet.m3u | Ubuntu Users in Texas | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TexasTeam | Statewide Meeting Dec 6th. Info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TexasTeam/Meetings/2009-12-06(07:47:40 PM) dailystruggle: hello texas
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(08:41:10 PM) stlsaint: who is heading up this meeting?
(08:41:29 PM) Spridel_doze: i assume thebwt
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(08:42:02 PM) jfluhmann: I'll likely be in and out. Trying to get the kids to bed
(08:42:40 PM) astechgeek: have no fear i b here
(08:42:53 PM) stlsaint: who called for meeting
(08:43:16 PM) Spridel_doze: probably thebwt
(08:43:26 PM) stlsaint: thebwt: ping
(08:44:06 PM) Spridel_doze: I'm just saying that because thebwt is the "Texas contact"
(08:44:41 PM) thebwt: pong
(08:44:52 PM) stlsaint: thebwt: you meeting head
(08:44:52 PM) astechgeek: Received CTCP 'PING 3437022521' (to #ubuntu-us-tx) from astechgeek
(08:45:06 PM) thebwt: well... not really
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(08:45:09 PM) thebwt: i can be
(08:45:28 PM) thebwt: everyone who went to uds0l voted for this meeting,s o I didn't "call it"
(08:45:33 PM) astechgeek: i nominate JJNova
(08:45:50 PM) thebwt: alright
(08:45:53 PM) Spridel_doze: dude, WTF you want to be in charge or is that not what you want?
(08:46:03 PM) thebwt: ?
(08:46:36 PM) astechgeek: pleia2: ping
(08:46:40 PM) stlsaint: there shouldnt be any nominating, someone thought of holding this meeting thus they need to be charge
(08:47:03 PM) pleia2: astechgeek: hey
(08:47:05 PM) stlsaint: hence whoever said 'hey lets have a meeting sunday dec6th at 9pm' needs to be heading this thing
(08:47:33 PM) thebwt: stlsaint: there were like 7 of us who agreed to it
(08:47:49 PM) thebwt: mrand, brought teh time up, but we all agreed we needed regular meetings
(08:47:50 PM) Spridel_doze: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TexasTeam/Meetings/2009-12-06
(08:48:00 PM) pleia2: and thebwt is just the "contact" that's an administrative role to communicate with canonical ;) not a "leader"
(08:48:01 PM) Spridel_doze: that says brandon tomlinson
(08:48:03 PM) stlsaint: thebwt: well this seems to be where texas is having so many issues...non-organization for the most part
(08:48:25 PM) thebwt: alright, well then I'll direct topics then
(08:48:35 PM) stlsaint: kk
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(08:52:54 PM) stlsaint: who added killeenteam to texasteam webpage??
(08:53:03 PM) stlsaint: s/webpage/wikipage
(08:53:31 PM) dailystruggle: I believe jjnova
(08:53:38 PM) thebwt: aye
(08:53:42 PM) dailystruggle: dont know
(08:53:57 PM) thebwt: I've been waiting to start again on the wiki, till we have this meeting
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(08:55:11 PM) stlsaint: well im asking as it is a link to a dead page and i didnt want killen wiki to be posted yet till after this meeting
(08:55:22 PM) stlsaint: now theres a dead link on page...ill remove it tho
(08:55:22 PM) dailystruggle: what is the first topic?
(08:55:39 PM) spridel: why don't we wait til 9PM?
(08:55:52 PM) dailystruggle: ok
(08:56:18 PM) spridel: and perhaps give some slack
(08:56:44 PM) dailystruggle: slack??
(08:56:50 PM) dailystruggle: time?
(08:57:01 PM) spridel: yes
(08:57:04 PM) dailystruggle: ok
(08:57:24 PM) ***Muffinx is here now. Sorry for apparently being a bit late.
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(08:57:46 PM) dailystruggle: I would like to suggest one topic to be general communications
(08:57:46 PM) spridel: After the meeting can someone help me trouble shoot why my laptop is not playing the ubuntu log in sounds?
(08:58:00 PM) astechgeek: turn the volume on
(08:58:01 PM) thebwt: sounds good then
(08:58:15 PM) stlsaint: spridel: are sound settings correct? thru system>admin
(08:58:25 PM) stlsaint: never mind...ill wait
(08:58:31 PM) thebwt: give me a sec, dinner about to pop out of microwave
(08:58:32 PM) Spridel_doze: notice i said post
(08:58:33 PM) millertimek1a2m3: stlsaint, hey man i'm here
(08:58:37 PM) stlsaint: support runs thru my veins
(08:58:42 PM) stlsaint: millertimek1a2m3: good i was just about to wave you
(08:59:20 PM) millertimek1a2m3: alright
(08:59:24 PM) millertimek1a2m3: so meeting about to start?
(08:59:33 PM) stlsaint: yep yep..1min all
(08:59:39 PM) ***cashmoney waves
(08:59:48 PM) Spridel_doze: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TexasTeam/Meetings/2009-12-06
(09:00:10 PM) thebwt: alright
(09:00:51 PM) stlsaint: LOL...why does the meeting page look better than the main texas wiki page??
(09:00:53 PM) thebwt: first topic is general communication, specifically which mediums should be defecto communication medium
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(09:01:15 PM) thebwt: stlsaint: look at the reversions, my revert is what I had
(09:01:18 PM) dailystruggle: reverted
(09:01:27 PM) thebwt: meh, not yet
(09:01:38 PM) thebwt: anywyas
(09:01:40 PM) thebwt: first topic is general communication, specifically which mediums should be defecto communication medium
(09:02:05 PM) JJNova: The one that has been there for years ?
(09:02:06 PM) thebwt: I think we generally agree that the mailing list is preffered
(09:02:23 PM) thebwt: JJNova: ^^
(09:02:29 PM) ***ahowell agrees on mailing list
(09:02:29 PM) millertimek1a2m3: yea email and irc is fine
(09:02:35 PM) millertimek1a2m3: i check my stuff every day
(09:02:38 PM) dailystruggle: mailing lists should be fixed The link
(09:02:40 PM) stlsaint: i agree on mailing list for
(09:02:41 PM) millertimek1a2m3: numerous times
(09:03:09 PM) cashmoney: just glad forums aren't preferred
(09:03:16 PM) cashmoney: complicated to keep up with
(09:03:18 PM) dailystruggle: the list link should have a fix
(09:03:33 PM) thebwt: dailystruggle: which link?
(09:03:36 PM) thebwt: wiki?
(09:03:50 PM) dailystruggle: on the ubuntu texas team page
(09:03:57 PM) thebwt: kk
(09:04:03 PM) millertimek1a2m3: yea... but if we don't publish what we talk about somehow newbies that are coming who might want to see or find some answer that we've discovered will have to discover it over again...
(09:04:15 PM) dailystruggle: requires purge and link removed
(09:04:37 PM) dailystruggle: no not the list we use the one we dont
(09:04:42 PM) thebwt: millertimek1a2m3: we will post the log to teh meeting page, then send an email out to the list
(09:04:48 PM) millertimek1a2m3: ok
(09:05:05 PM) thebwt: another aspect of this is what is the Texas Team page
(09:05:22 PM) thebwt: we have a wiki, a launchpad group, and a launchpad project
(09:05:48 PM) dailystruggle1 [n=danielst@75.140.242.34] entered the room.
(09:05:53 PM) thebwt: I personally think the the project should be deleted
(09:05:56 PM) stlsaint: either a fresh wiki or a revamp of current one is defin. in order
(09:06:09 PM) stlsaint: (meaning wiki not project)
(09:06:09 PM) thebwt: *nods*
(09:06:09 PM) dailystruggle: on launchpad the texas team is pointing to the wiki so both
(09:06:29 PM) stlsaint: thebwt: tbh i have no idea what project your referring to?
(09:06:38 PM) thebwt: sec..
(09:07:42 PM) thebwt: https://launchpad.net/texasteam = project
(09:07:54 PM) thebwt: = group
(09:07:56 PM) dailystruggle: the project that started texasteam discussion
(09:07:57 PM) thebwt: https://launchpad.net/~texasteam
(09:08:15 PM) cashmoney: nobody's really maintaining that page though
(09:08:24 PM) dailystruggle: it has been inactive
(09:08:27 PM) thebwt: right, so we need to delete it, and forget it
(09:08:38 PM) dailystruggle: the project
(09:08:42 PM) thebwt: use the group page simply as a "memberlist" of sorts
(09:08:58 PM) mattgriffin: +1
(09:09:00 PM) thebwt: and make the links current, but insist they look at the wiki?
(09:09:30 PM) JJNova: Hey cashmoney , nice to see you. Anyone seen Belinda lately ?
(09:09:34 PM) thebwt: as for the mailing list down on the bottom of the group, me, dinda and jfluhmann have tried many times to remove it.
(09:09:36 PM) stlsaint: thebwt: i think we need to establish content for wiki page also aside from memberlist
(09:09:43 PM) dailystruggle: that does eliminate some confusion
(09:09:53 PM) thebwt: stlsaint: *nods* that will come up in a sec
(09:09:56 PM) stlsaint: kk
(09:10:09 PM) thebwt: ok so we agree, mailing list for communication, wiki is the "texasteam page"
(09:10:10 PM) astechgeek: I vote that JJNova buys the drinks at the next Dallas Meeting
(09:10:12 PM) astechgeek: +1
(09:10:19 PM) JJNova: astechgeek, Usually happens that way
(09:10:20 PM) dailystruggle: then you need to add effects also launchpad
(09:10:39 PM) thebwt: dailystruggle: ?
(09:11:01 PM) dailystruggle: what?
(09:11:26 PM) thebwt: "then you need to add effects also launchpad" <- not sure what that means
(09:11:45 PM) dailystruggle: one to sign up and a wiki to explain both have a purpose
(09:11:56 PM) thebwt: kk
(09:11:59 PM) stlsaint: sign up for what?
(09:12:04 PM) dailystruggle: in the bug that you dismissed
(09:12:24 PM) stlsaint: truly i see no need for lp bug when we have mailing list...
(09:12:38 PM) thebwt: we all agree, no more bugs, the project will be deleted
(09:12:38 PM) dailystruggle: on the left side you add affect package
(09:12:43 PM) thebwt: ah
(09:12:54 PM) stlsaint: bah, delete page...im +1 for it
(09:13:29 PM) thebwt: kk next topic? I reccomend we discuss what the wiki contains while we're on teh topic of "communication"
(09:13:35 PM) dailystruggle: it is a project
(09:13:40 PM) JJNova: A Hub.
(09:14:06 PM) stlsaint: well first we need to establish a TexasTeam purpose/guidelines?
(09:14:12 PM) JJNova: It's what we started the Texas Team and the Wiki page for, to direct people to real human beings that are able to communicate effectively with them.
(09:14:31 PM) astechgeek: in their local area
(09:14:51 PM) dailystruggle: only to have a a landing page to direct a user
(09:14:59 PM) stlsaint: JJNova: ah ok, so is texasteam like a group of loco heads/contacts for new comers to get in contact with loco in their area??
(09:15:00 PM) JJNova: So that people could be directed to Amarillo, Houston, Dallas etc.
(09:15:14 PM) cashmoney: exactly
(09:15:21 PM) JJNova: stlsaint, groups more than contacts.
(09:15:42 PM) thebwt: alright, then we all agree that a teams list should be on the wiki :)
(09:15:44 PM) JJNova: Sending someone to JJNova is pointless, since JJNova hates people, but Dallas has a group that likes people.
(09:15:44 PM) stlsaint: JJNova: ok so who is texasteam contact...im hearing you are thebwt
(09:15:45 PM) JJNova: ;)
(09:15:53 PM) dailystruggle: an area that points a user
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(09:15:57 PM) dailystruggle: yes
(09:15:59 PM) stlsaint: JJNova: hehe
(09:16:02 PM) stlsaint: got ya
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(09:16:24 PM) thebwt: stlsaint: I was elected at the uds-l meeting
(09:16:29 PM) thebwt: but that wasn't a full vote
(09:16:37 PM) thebwt: so we should put that back out for a vote
(09:16:42 PM) cashmoney: coming together for statewide is good but people are going to be more active locally
(09:16:47 PM) millertimek1a2m3: i feel like I'm not really following this or that I don't have much to say
(09:16:50 PM) millertimek1a2m3: what can I do to thelp
(09:16:53 PM) stlsaint: thebwt: nice alright well the contents need to be links to loco groups yes?
(09:16:54 PM) millertimek1a2m3: ? i don't know
(09:17:03 PM) thebwt: ok pause for a second
(09:17:07 PM) JJNova: millertimek1a2m3, Where do you live? And, I love your name.
(09:17:11 PM) astechgeek: I think that statewide activity will be good for RELEASE PARTIES
(09:17:18 PM) dailystruggle: pause why
(09:17:19 PM) millertimek1a2m3: in belton at UMHB
(09:17:26 PM) astechgeek: activity locally otherwise is good
(09:17:28 PM) thebwt: discussion is drifting around
(09:17:31 PM) JJNova: Software Freedom Day is a great local and state communication event.
(09:17:44 PM) astechgeek: I have an idea for a release party come april and I want to make it a kick azz party
(09:17:54 PM) JJNova: Will there be strippers ?
(09:17:55 PM) stlsaint: whoa focus people....team meeting
(09:17:58 PM) dailystruggle: /////////////
(09:18:02 PM) thebwt: we agree on wiki page having a link for teams
(09:18:08 PM) stlsaint: :P
(09:18:17 PM) JJNova: I find that, honestly, to be the main point behind the wiki page at all.
(09:18:19 PM) dailystruggle: and newcomers
(09:18:22 PM) stlsaint: yes, and texasteam contact info
(09:18:26 PM) dailystruggle1: no matter who is charge i believe meetings of the mind should take place all over if your in the dallas team or not
(09:18:40 PM) dailystruggle: and projects that drive
(09:19:07 PM) thebwt: alright, so can we have statewide projects as well? like astechgeek's testing project
(09:19:12 PM) millertimek1a2m3: yea I just ordered a SSD so I can test the new releases of many different OSes
(09:19:16 PM) thebwt: purely digital, and purely voluntary
(09:19:17 PM) dailystruggle: how
(09:19:38 PM) JJNova: There are a lot of testing projects from every team, individuals, state teams.
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(09:19:46 PM) stlsaint: alright so will there be anything else needed to be on wiki page??
(09:19:47 PM) dailystruggle: is or has it been discussed in the mailing list
(09:19:49 PM) JJNova: Really, all you do is sign up with that group, and continue testing like you normally do.
(09:20:01 PM) thebwt: stlsaint: we're getting there
(09:20:12 PM) stlsaint: thebwt: seems like we are getting sidetracked
(09:20:26 PM) dailystruggle: that is what I see a lot of discussion happens in IRC but never get to the mailing list
(09:20:30 PM) thebwt: stlsaint: I'm aiming this at the wiki, because I have a wiki section for it
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(09:20:55 PM) thebwt: some of us may want to group together and do projects, then invite anyone in texas to take part
(09:21:06 PM) thebwt: and we can network on a closer level
(09:21:13 PM) thebwt: this also will add for team "Activity"
(09:21:17 PM) thebwt: towards getting approved
(09:21:21 PM) JJNova: I am not trying to take attention away from astechgeek wanting to push a group to do bug testing. But there is no purpose for Texas Team other than to act as a form of communication that would allow different users t hroughout the state to find the project.
(09:21:31 PM) dailystruggle: the first thing is to have discussions in the open and not always in chat
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(09:21:41 PM) dailystruggle: chat is hidden channel
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(09:22:05 PM) thebwt: dailystruggle we already agreed we would use mialing list for other things
(09:22:05 PM) dailystruggle: this is what is primal wrong with IRC only
(09:22:19 PM) thebwt: dailystruggle: we already addressed this
(09:22:27 PM) JJNova: I would really like to have some clarification on why there is an urgency, need, and push to get approved when we have been operating the Texas Team and Local groups for years now without it.
(09:22:29 PM) dailystruggle: no every communication not just a few
(09:22:48 PM) stlsaint: JJNova: aye i brought that up earlier but it got buried under post
(09:22:56 PM) JJNova: I apologize.
(09:23:02 PM) dailystruggle: because we want to direct new users
(09:23:12 PM) stlsaint: JJNova: bah, you sabotaged me :P
(09:23:24 PM) stlsaint: dailystruggle: and that takes LoCo Team Approval??
(09:23:24 PM) thebwt: alright then.... guys, what is the purpose of LoCo
(09:23:25 PM) dailystruggle: he likes to
(09:23:33 PM) JJNova: dailystruggle, How is approval doing that any more than what we already have in place ?
(09:23:34 PM) dailystruggle: his thang
(09:23:51 PM) stlsaint: JJNova: you just sabbed me again :P
(09:23:57 PM) dailystruggle: look at ubuntu finding a loco
(09:24:01 PM) ***JJNova hugs stlsaint
(09:24:05 PM) dailystruggle: where is texas
(09:24:07 PM) JJNova: Sorry, been typing for a few years now ;)
(09:24:12 PM) ***stlsaint embraces
(09:24:14 PM) thebwt: JJNova: why not get approved?
(09:24:17 PM) dailystruggle1: to many chiefs noy enough indians
(09:24:27 PM) millertimek1a2m3: aww
(09:24:29 PM) stlsaint: dailystruggle: why dual nicks?
(09:24:36 PM) thebwt: JJNova: I'm not sure what you're opposing
(09:24:39 PM) JJNova: thebwt, A number of reasons. The largest being, who is team contact?
(09:24:49 PM) dailystruggle: me and lucy is on another
(09:24:54 PM) stlsaint: JJNova: hehe thats been addressed too... its thebwt
(09:24:55 PM) thebwt: JJNova: why does that matter?
(09:25:09 PM) thebwt: JJNova: but I am right now, we're going to vote on it in a minute
(09:25:19 PM) JJNova: thebwt, It matters very much so in regarding the opposing from so many people.
(09:25:22 PM) dailystruggle: the state contact needs to have open communications
(09:25:45 PM) JJNova: I find it redundant to vote on a team leader for a team that many find redundant itself.
(09:25:45 PM) thebwt: the communications are now open
(09:25:55 PM) thebwt: JJNova: then why be ammeber?
(09:25:56 PM) dailystruggle: think of it how do anyone know anything?
(09:26:07 PM) Spridel_doze: thebwt, you and i had a discussion about this, and you need to state what you told me at the end when you finally realized what i was trying to et you to say
(09:26:11 PM) stlsaint: dailystruggle: LOL...i have no idea what your talking about!! :P
(09:26:14 PM) dailystruggle: no not from what you said
(09:26:18 PM) JJNova: thebwt, For instance, if you are the team contact, and the leader of San ANtonio doesn't get along with you, yet YOU are the person who decides which teams get what kits, that causes friction.
(09:26:28 PM) JJNova: It puts a deviding wedge between already established, long running teams.
(09:26:45 PM) JJNova: Instea of being all encompassing, it's forcing teams to play by a certain group of rules.
(09:26:59 PM) thebwt: JJNova: k so instead you prefer no one get anything?
(09:27:03 PM) stlsaint: JJNova: well thats with ANY HUMAN not just thebwt
(09:27:04 PM) thebwt: JJNova: that's seems silly
(09:27:05 PM) dailystruggle: ok but open communication like what you said on the wiki yesterday
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(09:27:25 PM) JJNova: thebwt, I apologize if my example tries to single you out, I am, in fact, just plugging your name into the example.
(09:27:32 PM) dailystruggle: hmm dont be silly
(09:27:45 PM) stlsaint: dailystruggle: you sure your in teh right room! ;)
(09:27:57 PM) dailystruggle: the bug is seperate
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(09:28:11 PM) thebwt: JJNova: The "state organization" doesn't change anything for existing teams. It mearly gives us medium to discuss more organzation
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(09:28:16 PM) dailystruggle: what are you hinting at?
(09:28:28 PM) stlsaint: JJNova: i agree that maybe approval needs to be re-looked at (reasoning for it) but a team contact is a good idea
(09:28:28 PM) JJNova: thebwt, What I prefer, is communication and teams working together for community. Not the Ubuntu COmmunity, but for their local, immediate region. To help save their parents money, their neighbors some money on going to school. I want us to look out for each other and push a free, open agenda.
(09:28:30 PM) astechgeek: msg nickserv identify astechgeek 51halo51
(09:28:41 PM) stlsaint: astechgeek: nice password
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(09:29:05 PM) thebwt: JJNova: ouch
(09:29:17 PM) dailystruggle: yeah ouch
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(09:29:25 PM) Spridel_doze: as you forgot your /
(09:29:25 PM) thebwt: astechgek: rather
(09:29:28 PM) thebwt: JJNova: that just sounds like a lug to me
(09:29:42 PM) dailystruggle1: we are all ubuntu representatives be state or country
(09:29:46 PM) JJNova: I'm not the lone voice on this as the mailing list has shown, and as any communication amongst the other, established teams shows. I'm just the one that is good at complaining.
(09:29:52 PM) stlsaint: JJNova: yea that doesnt encomapass the full reason behind a LoCo
(09:30:04 PM) JJNova: thebwt, A LUG in that I have been doing this when Ubuntu wasn't cool? Then yes :P
(09:30:15 PM) stlsaint: JJNova: yes do all what you say but IMO LoCo's are also here for ubuntu community as well
(09:30:18 PM) dailystruggle: the comm between members when it regards texas team should go to lists
(09:30:28 PM) dailystruggle: private is private
(09:30:38 PM) Spridel_doze: thebwt, we talked about this last week use that same arguement what finally got me to understand what you were saying and not, "We need one to have one"
(09:30:45 PM) JJNova: stlsaint, When we started this, the "Ubuntu COmmunity" wasn't quite what it is now. The purpose was to help YOUR community.
(09:30:50 PM) stlsaint: dailystruggle: we are no longer on list and wikis or projects or launchpad
(09:31:00 PM) thebwt: Spridel_doze: I know, but I want to guide it in
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(09:31:14 PM) thebwt: JJNova: lets get back to what you are "opposing"
(09:31:22 PM) thebwt: I am not sure I understand it
(09:31:37 PM) dailystruggle: true
(09:31:46 PM) JJNova: Taking away the individuality in which teams are currently allowed to perform.
(09:31:55 PM) thebwt: JJNova: how are we doing that
(09:32:03 PM) dailystruggle: noting taken
(09:32:06 PM) JJNova: Every argument for a Texas Team is already capable of being performed with the services currently available.
(09:32:15 PM) dailystruggle: nope
(09:32:21 PM) stlsaint: JJNova: this is starting to sound like the CoC discussion we had!
(09:32:27 PM) JJNova: lol
(09:32:42 PM) JJNova: Sorry, I'm straight, let's try to stay off CoC.
(09:33:10 PM) stlsaint: thebwt: i must agree with JJNova to an extent...'what team' for texas team is needing approval??
(09:33:15 PM) JJNova: thebwt, In the example I provided above, anyone can clearly see how easy a wedge can be driven between the currently existing LoCo's.
(09:33:38 PM) dailystruggle: texas as a statewide team
(09:33:46 PM) stlsaint: thebwt: i mean if we just said that contents for wiki is just contacts to regional teams than.....
(09:33:52 PM) astechgek: the whole state needs approval
(09:33:54 PM) millertimek1a2m3: JJNova, how does it reduce our effort given to our local community to have a channel or whatever?
(09:34:03 PM) thebwt: if "Texas Team" gets "approved" then basically every team under it "gets approved", no one is telling anyone what to do
(09:34:26 PM) cashmoney: thebwt: i agree with that
(09:34:27 PM) stlsaint: yes but what is there to approve of in TexasTeam?
(09:34:27 PM) dailystruggle: yes please explain
(09:34:42 PM) thebwt: we just report our activites
(09:34:45 PM) thebwt: on all levels
(09:34:48 PM) astechgek: what is the point of your argument
(09:34:48 PM) thebwt: log them
(09:34:53 PM) astechgek: besides your own selfishness
(09:34:59 PM) JJNova: millertimek1a2m3, There is nothing wrong with a channel. THis channel has existed, as well as the Texas Team wiki. I know, we started it. I'm all for driving people in the right direction, I'm against an umbrella organization/team that will have control, however miniscule, over teams that have been practicing, performing, and doing the groundwork for years.
(09:35:08 PM) astechgek: in the fact that things changed and you guys dont like it
(09:35:11 PM) stlsaint: FLOOD
(09:35:14 PM) stlsaint: hehe
(09:35:25 PM) ***jfluhmann trying to catch up reading scrollback
(09:35:31 PM) astechgek: if you were taking care of the mailing list in the first place we wouldnt be having this disscussion
(09:35:46 PM) dailystruggle: ok slow down a bit
(09:35:46 PM) millertimek1a2m3: JJNova, so a team is going to stipulate something of the members that you don't want?
(09:35:48 PM) stlsaint: astechgek: what in the world are you talking about?
(09:35:56 PM) astechgek: you guys are like a bunch of little bitches with "i wanna be my own loco community
(09:36:26 PM) stlsaint: astechgek: do you even know the reason there are regional locos?
(09:36:36 PM) Khalsa: I'm starting my own loco in my house tomorrow. I WANT OFFICIAL RECOGNITION OMG
(09:36:46 PM) astechgek: if you had been with the "community" for so long then why werent you taking care of it when it went dormant
(09:36:46 PM) JJNova: Khalsa, Can I sit in on the meeting ?
(09:36:54 PM) dailystruggle: cool
(09:36:54 PM) thebwt: Khalsa: tough luck, loco rules say only states can be locos
(09:37:02 PM) stlsaint: astechgek: its not about 'wanting to be own loco team'
(09:37:06 PM) ahowell: ive been listening, and I am unsure the goal is to force or change anything. This sounds like it adds more overall goals and direction creating a more organized approach.
(09:37:15 PM) Khalsa: but i've been operating for years!
(09:37:31 PM) astechgek: no what I see is a few people trying to work together but the others are whinning like little babies
(09:37:50 PM) thebwt: Khalsa: kk, add your activites to a texas log, and you'll help us all get approved together, maybe if we all add to it, texas will get approved, and your loco will be on teh front page.
(09:37:54 PM) stlsaint: no, information is just being passed around right now
(09:38:00 PM) millertimek1a2m3: this sounds like a bunch of immature fighting. I can't entirely discern the base causes. Why
(09:38:01 PM) astechgek: the few that are coming together have the idea to get the state seen
(09:38:07 PM) dailystruggle: thats all it is trying to do organize efforts
(09:38:23 PM) Khalsa: If those hippies in California can have a state team, I think we can too....
(09:38:45 PM) stlsaint: I have no issue with texas team being approved i just wanted to know WHAT IS TexasTeam?!?!?!?
(09:39:07 PM) dailystruggle: millertimek1a2m3: what are you meaning?
(09:39:12 PM) stlsaint: JJNova: i think whats being said to you is that having texasteam approved shall not hinder your loco in any way
(09:39:13 PM) mode (+o thebwt ) by ChanServ
(09:39:23 PM) JJNova: stlsaint, I didn't state that it would.
(09:39:29 PM) stlsaint: JJNova: touche
(09:39:31 PM) millertimek1a2m3: Khalsa, JJNova it is important to respect your seniority when it comes to how long you have been operating. I don't see you losing anything by a team being started.
(09:39:33 PM) cashmoney: i think the idea is TexasTeam will be comprised of several regional teams
(09:39:52 PM) mode (+m ) by thebwt
(09:39:55 PM) thebwt: hold a sec
(09:40:02 PM) thebwt: we're talking over eachother
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(09:40:25 PM) thebwt: let's talk about what Loco is.
(09:40:30 PM) mode (-m ) by thebwt
(09:40:33 PM) thebwt: go
(09:40:40 PM) Khalsa: I was joking, I'm all for a TexasTeam :)
(09:40:58 PM) thebwt: What is LoCo?
(09:41:12 PM) dailystruggle: a Community that exists to help the team or community
(09:41:13 PM) mode (+v JJNova ) by ChanServ
(09:41:15 PM) stlsaint: LoCo-Local Community
(09:41:23 PM) Khalsa: this meeting is loco...
(09:41:29 PM) thebwt: *nods*
(09:41:34 PM) thebwt: what sort of local community?
(09:41:45 PM) millertimek1a2m3: loco to me seems to be a way to organize people who associated by geographic regions so they can meet physically.
(09:41:47 PM) dailystruggle: Texas
(09:41:51 PM) stlsaint: our local living community irl AND UBUNTU community
(09:41:52 PM) stlsaint: IMO
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(09:41:56 PM) millertimek1a2m3: are*
(09:42:09 PM) mode (+m ) by thebwt
(09:42:19 PM) JJNova: hi!
(09:42:33 PM) thebwt: so then, can we agree that LoCo is ubuntu community on a local level
(09:42:40 PM) thebwt: so then, what is "local"
(09:42:44 PM) mode (-m ) by thebwt
(09:42:45 PM) dailystruggle: true
(09:42:45 PM) millertimek1a2m3: yes
(09:42:58 PM) ***jfluhmann has caught up reading
(09:42:58 PM) dailystruggle: Teaxs
(09:43:06 PM) dailystruggle: texas
(09:43:06 PM) Spridel_doze: however Ubuntu wikis state that a LoCo is not meatspace, meatspace is LUGs...
(09:43:15 PM) thebwt: Spridel_doze: not quite
(09:43:17 PM) stlsaint: jfluhmann: please input
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(09:44:03 PM) jfluhmann: so, from what I've read, there's a concern that a "state level" team will in some way have some sort of control over the regional locos
(09:44:06 PM) jfluhmann: I don't see that
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(09:44:15 PM) thebwt: as far as LoCo organization goes, the most local they go is country (except for us, where they go to state level)
(09:44:16 PM) jfluhmann: a team contact doesn't decide who gets discs
(09:44:30 PM) stlsaint: ^^^^^^
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(09:44:53 PM) jfluhmann: I've been a member of the Texas LoCo Team since it's beginning
(09:45:03 PM) JJNova: same
(09:45:03 PM) stlsaint: jfluhmann: really we just need to know what team is there to be approved for Texas Team...
(09:45:15 PM) millertimek1a2m3: jfluhmann, that's Exactly what i was asking for!!!!!
(09:45:55 PM) millertimek1a2m3: i'm apart of any team that wants to form that I can give aid to. for support of ubuntu. it doesn't matter what direction we go in to me, as long as I can help
(09:46:04 PM) thebwt: *nods*
(09:46:09 PM) stlsaint: alright so we have just established that getting texasteam approved will not hinder anyone nor effect any locos
(09:46:10 PM) jfluhmann: stlsaint, the state as a whole is what gets "approved", which encompasses all of the regional groups and individual members
(09:46:17 PM) stlsaint: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
(09:46:28 PM) thebwt: I agree
(09:46:29 PM) stlsaint: thats what thebwt had stated eariler
(09:46:46 PM) stlsaint: FINALLY!! SO...how do we go about getting approved???
(09:46:54 PM) dailystruggle: events
(09:46:57 PM) thebwt: we do stuff
(09:47:00 PM) dailystruggle: roadmaps
(09:47:01 PM) jfluhmann: I've not belonged to a regional group, so I can speak from that perspective, only as an individual with in the Texas LoCo
(09:47:02 PM) thebwt: organize events
(09:47:15 PM) dailystruggle: projects
(09:47:21 PM) thebwt: we need to hold release parties, installfests, anything
(09:47:32 PM) dailystruggle: involvement
(09:47:33 PM) stlsaint: ok so why do we have a bug and all this attention on getting approved when really it comes down to the regional teams activity??
(09:47:42 PM) ahowell: I want to do stuff. That is why I showed up yesterday and why I am here today.
(09:47:43 PM) stlsaint: W00T!! BUG JAMS!!!
(09:47:47 PM) thebwt: stlsaint: it comes to everyone's activity
(09:47:55 PM) astechgeek: and from what i have understood No one has been involved
(09:47:57 PM) thebwt: and we all combine our acitivity logs
(09:48:06 PM) thebwt: it's like 3 teams for the price of one
(09:48:07 PM) dailystruggle: Doc Jams
(09:48:09 PM) stlsaint: thebwt: so why is focus not on regional locos than?
(09:48:15 PM) stlsaint: i like all JAMS!
(09:48:23 PM) millertimek1a2m3: excellent, but if it doesn't say we exist on those sites, you know-listing our names and contact information the newbies won't know we exist to talk to us, and for that matter anyone. i say our team is *official once we get our names out there with our own page next to the other
(09:48:30 PM) millertimek1a2m3: teams like dallas, houston
(09:48:33 PM) thebwt: stlsaint: how is it not
(09:48:37 PM) JJNova: Good luck everyone. If you meet someone from the DFW region, please send them to the #ubuntu-dallas . Goodnight.
(09:48:42 PM) thebwt: stlsaint: the main thing is updating wikis and stuff
(09:48:47 PM) JJNova left the room ("adios").
(09:48:50 PM) thebwt: and getting everyone to agree
(09:48:57 PM) thebwt: there is no focus on states
(09:49:01 PM) stlsaint: thebwt: right so once thats done than its up to regional locos right?
(09:49:06 PM) thebwt: unless people want to do an "Event" on the state level
(09:49:25 PM) thebwt: stlsaint: but what if we want to have a purely digital doc jam?
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(09:49:36 PM) thebwt: and invite everyone, though they don't have to come
(09:49:47 PM) thebwt: stlsaint: not everyone has enouhg people to do regions
(09:49:48 PM) dailystruggle: yes
(09:49:50 PM) millertimek1a2m3: JJNova, aren't you leaving prematurely?
(09:50:05 PM) stlsaint: i think he got fed up with banter chatter
(09:50:19 PM) millertimek1a2m3: that would be sooo cool to have an entire state meeting
(09:50:31 PM) thebwt: so give a "projects" page that anyone in thae state can join and help out with
(09:50:32 PM) millertimek1a2m3: you know, where we could meet people of the other teams in person
(09:50:41 PM) thebwt: no meatspace commitments
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(09:50:49 PM) dailystruggle: we have one
(09:50:54 PM) stlsaint: thebwt: alright theres nothing wrong with that
(09:51:04 PM) stlsaint: not sure why it needs to be discussed tho?
(09:51:07 PM) thebwt: stlsaint: *nods* then we are in agreeance
(09:51:17 PM) thebwt: it doesn't
(09:51:21 PM) dailystruggle: but what wrong with meetings?
(09:51:31 PM) thebwt: but I bring it up and certain parties say I'm taking over thier loco
(09:51:51 PM) stlsaint: so we will get state approved after all regional locos are securely established...AGREED BY ALL?? YES OR NO?
(09:51:59 PM) thebwt: YEs
(09:52:07 PM) cashmoney: yes for amarillo
(09:52:08 PM) dailystruggle: not state meetings projects meetings?
(09:52:29 PM) millertimek1a2m3: yes
(09:52:34 PM) thebwt: dailystruggle: that sentence has to many nouns, not enough verbs
(09:52:34 PM) techgeek: this is where our council mentor needs to interject
(09:52:43 PM) thebwt: pleia2: is ill
(09:52:44 PM) dailystruggle: a doc jam might have some meespace
(09:52:46 PM) Spridel_doze: what are you saying stlsaint? that we can't add locos or that all locos must be formed prior to state formation?
(09:53:02 PM) stlsaint: Spridel_doze: YES
(09:53:20 PM) Spridel_doze: there is an OR in that question
(09:53:24 PM) dailystruggle: verbs sorry english major I am not
(09:53:47 PM) stlsaint: Spridel_doze: all regional teams are formed before texas loco goes for approval!
(09:54:07 PM) thebwt: stlsaint: but they can form after as well
(09:54:23 PM) millertimek1a2m3: ohhhh so you guys know some of the rules that I don't. that's what i've been missing
(09:54:31 PM) stlsaint: Spridel_doze: as stated before for TexasTeam to be approved all Regional Teams must show some activity
(09:54:38 PM) stlsaint: jfluhmann: am i right on that?? ^^
(09:54:45 PM) dailystruggle: ok a project may have a meeting that is posted on projects or would that be wong?
(09:54:48 PM) stlsaint: thebwt: yep yep
(09:54:57 PM) Spridel_doze: so we need El Paso, FW, abiliene Amarillo, North Texas sherman, East TExas not tyler, tyler, texarkana, houston, victoria, corpus, mcallen, rio grand river valley?
(09:55:18 PM) thebwt: hold
(09:55:20 PM) stlsaint: Spridel_doze: no they can be formed after
(09:55:22 PM) millertimek1a2m3: not tyler?
(09:55:30 PM) millertimek1a2m3: i'm in belton temporarily but I'm from tyler
(09:55:32 PM) Spridel_doze: but you just said before state formatoin
(09:55:36 PM) mode (+m ) by thebwt
(09:55:48 PM) thebwt: wait stlsaint is saying it a bit weird
(09:56:03 PM) thebwt: to get approved, quite literally "we have to be active"
(09:56:06 PM) thebwt: we = state
(09:56:21 PM) thebwt: we don't have to be doing anythingas a state though
(09:56:37 PM) thebwt: so if the state consisted of dallas, and aaustin
(09:56:39 PM) thebwt: austin*
(09:57:08 PM) thebwt: and dallas was very active and austin was not,
(09:57:08 PM) thebwt: it doesn't matter, they both go towards state activity
(09:57:22 PM) thebwt: texas will still get approved, even if it's just dallas doing stuff
(09:57:22 PM) dailystruggle: so that means that state can or not recognize a team
(09:57:22 PM) Cannot send to channel
(09:57:27 PM) mode (-m ) by thebwt
(09:57:28 PM) dailystruggle: OR
(09:57:33 PM) thebwt: and go>:
(09:57:48 PM) millertimek1a2m3: holy crap we've been talking forever on the same topic ahhhhh
(09:57:51 PM) thebwt: everyone being active just make sit easier
(09:57:56 PM) cashmoney: well said
(09:57:57 PM) thebwt: millertimek1a2m3: you're telling me :p
(09:58:08 PM) dailystruggle: so that means that state can or not recognize a team
(09:58:26 PM) thebwt: there is no "recognize"
(09:58:33 PM) thebwt: we jsut put your team on a list
(09:58:35 PM) thebwt: that sit
(09:58:40 PM) thebwt: thats it*
(09:58:52 PM) cashmoney: call it dual citizenship
(09:58:58 PM) jfluhmann: stlsaint, well, for Texas Team to get approved, it will rely on the activities of the regional teams, so yes, in way
(09:59:03 PM) dailystruggle: then the wiki should reflect all teams no matter how small
(09:59:05 PM) stlsaint: Spridel_doze: thats what i was trying to say...teams form prior to going for texasteam approval and if any teams want to form after approval they can
(09:59:09 PM) jfluhmann: stlsaint, not _all_ need to show activity, just the state as a whole
(09:59:20 PM) stlsaint: jfluhmann: thanks... Spridel_doze ^^^
(09:59:31 PM) dailystruggle: even if in the boonies
(09:59:40 PM) stlsaint: yes
(09:59:51 PM) thebwt: but really the goal should not be "Lets get approved"
(09:59:57 PM) thebwt: it should be "lets do stuff!"
(10:00:17 PM) thebwt: austin had a meeting last sunday, we're going to work on an "installfest" in the spring
(10:00:28 PM) dailystruggle: that was what I posted on the mailing list
(10:00:31 PM) thebwt: we are going to try other things as well
(10:00:40 PM) cashmoney: are we all in agreement?
(10:00:41 PM) dailystruggle1: if jjnova left the room who will buy drinks at the next meeting
(10:00:52 PM) thebwt: cashmoney: I think so, JJnova left
(10:00:55 PM) stlsaint: yes...lets do stuff...i like jams of all kinds and cant wait for killeen team to start doing them ;)
(10:00:59 PM) dailystruggle: dont tell us put it on your wiki
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(10:01:10 PM) dailystruggle: write the mailing list
(10:01:28 PM) dailystruggle: start projects
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(10:01:33 PM) Spridel_doze: has this been settled yet?
(10:01:38 PM) thebwt: yes
(10:01:43 PM) mode (-m ) by thebwt
(10:01:49 PM) thebwt: next topic!
(10:02:03 PM) thebwt: on the list of propposed agenda
(10:02:19 PM) thebwt: state event vs regional, "central texas" to be or not to be
(10:02:29 PM) thebwt: multiple comm channels
(10:02:39 PM) thebwt: and astechgeek's tester's group
(10:02:45 PM) mode (+m ) by thebwt
(10:02:50 PM) techgeek left the room (quit: Nick collision from services.).
(10:03:03 PM) thebwt: should we go right into events
(10:03:07 PM) thebwt: state vs. regional
(10:03:07 PM) thebwt: ?
(10:03:17 PM) mode (-m ) by thebwt
(10:03:18 PM) dailystruggle: ok what is this on the meeting Distinguishing between regional and state events
(10:03:24 PM) millertimek1a2m3: i want to meet locally more often than otherwise
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(10:03:35 PM) thebwt: everyone does!
(10:03:49 PM) stlsaint: i say jump into regional events first to gain experience for state wide event aftwerwards
(10:03:50 PM) thebwt: no one wants to drive to dallas... ever :/
(10:03:58 PM) thebwt: :p
(10:04:00 PM) thebwt: anyways
(10:04:08 PM) thebwt: jfluhmann: has been working on texas linux fest
(10:04:16 PM) dailystruggle: was that your answer
(10:04:25 PM) dailystruggle1: we drove to dallas and had a good turn out
(10:04:29 PM) dailystruggle: ?
(10:04:35 PM) thebwt: dailystruggle: that was a joke
(10:04:45 PM) dailystruggle: what was a joke
(10:04:51 PM) thebwt: nvm
(10:04:55 PM) stlsaint: i vote for regional
(10:05:13 PM) dailystruggle: could you answer the question
(10:05:22 PM) cashmoney: regional with annual or semi-annual state events to get together
(10:05:23 PM) stlsaint: he said nevermind
(10:05:29 PM) thebwt: ok
(10:05:37 PM) stlsaint: +1 for cashmoney
(10:05:49 PM) thebwt: certai events are clearly state wide, for isntance texas linux fest
(10:05:51 PM) techgeek: +1 for cashmoney
(10:05:59 PM) stlsaint: maybe more often then annual if we get enough participants
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(10:06:04 PM) techgeek: i agree with that idea
(10:06:08 PM) Spridel_doze: +1
(10:06:15 PM) thebwt: I think we all agree to that
(10:06:21 PM) thebwt: thats not what I'm reffering to
(10:06:26 PM) Muffinx: I think certain events are going to be regional, others will be on a state level. Most will be regional, simply due to convenience, but we shouldn't try to shoehorn things one way or the other in that regard.
(10:06:29 PM) dailystruggle: so regions are not part of the state??
(10:06:37 PM) thebwt: lolwut?
(10:06:50 PM) dailystruggle: would they have separate mail list?
(10:07:00 PM) stlsaint: seriously dailystruggle...im trying to understand you but your making it difficult!?!?!?
(10:07:03 PM) millertimek1a2m3: +1 for the semi-annual state events together
(10:07:17 PM) thebwt: I think we all do
(10:07:17 PM) Spridel_doze: regions are a sub team/sub loco right?
(10:07:25 PM) thebwt: Spridel_doze: yes
(10:07:30 PM) thebwt: so then
(10:07:38 PM) thebwt: i throw a question out
(10:07:43 PM) dailystruggle: everything is taking away from how other state do thing just curious why?
(10:07:53 PM) jfluhmann: a state "team" does not in any way prevent regional groups from forming. Regional groups forming seems pretty natural
(10:08:01 PM) dailystruggle: one loco texas
(10:08:23 PM) dailystruggle: the state is what the subject is hmmm... ???
(10:08:24 PM) stlsaint: thebwt: next topic please
(10:08:37 PM) thebwt: kk
(10:08:58 PM) thebwt: central texas /killeeen
(10:09:02 PM) Spridel_doze: i believe it is Killeen becomes CenTex or Heart of Texas
(10:09:04 PM) thebwt: killeen
(10:09:20 PM) thebwt: stlsaint: this si yours
(10:09:22 PM) thebwt: is*
(10:09:35 PM) millertimek1a2m3: well how many more users are we going to add by doing this? i mean the number we add is the benefit, but the cost is where we are giong to have to go to suppor this move
(10:10:04 PM) millertimek1a2m3: if driving to a new location becomes inordinately expensive then it's not worth it, but if the driving doesn't change
(10:10:08 PM) millertimek1a2m3: i see no reason why not to expand
(10:10:16 PM) thebwt: can we have both?
(10:10:24 PM) thebwt: a sub team of a region?
(10:10:28 PM) millertimek1a2m3: because the driving is the only thing that can hamper us. or a reduction in the number of meetings
(10:10:37 PM) Spridel_doze: why do we need to drive?
(10:10:42 PM) dailystruggle: be be both big state
(10:10:54 PM) stlsaint: this really comes down to what people feel is best
(10:10:55 PM) millertimek1a2m3: what would be the purpose of that? so that we could have an agenda for a subteam that's related to a larger agenda for the bigger team?
(10:10:57 PM) thebwt: and do semi-often events on a regional level, and more often events on a "local" level
(10:11:07 PM) Spridel_doze: i though the idea was to have IRC meetings, with some meatspace?
(10:11:14 PM) millertimek1a2m3: thebwt, that was for you
(10:11:21 PM) millertimek1a2m3: thebwt, i support that idea as well
(10:11:22 PM) thebwt: millertimek1a2m3: typing
(10:11:42 PM) millertimek1a2m3: thebwt, what are you saying "typing"-what are you meaning?
(10:11:45 PM) thebwt: the thing is some people live in the boonies
(10:11:59 PM) jfluhmann: thebwt, are you referring to me?! ;-)
(10:12:09 PM) thebwt: jfluhmann: pretty much, but you're an example
(10:12:09 PM) Spridel_doze: i think he means dailystruggle
(10:12:18 PM) millertimek1a2m3: Spridel_doze, explain meatspace to me please
(10:12:20 PM) pi-rho: I thought all of texas was the boonies :)
(10:12:23 PM) stlsaint: i started killeen team with the intentions of being able to have a LOCAL group of personnel
(10:12:39 PM) jfluhmann: pi-rho, mostly just us West Texas people ;-)
(10:12:43 PM) dailystruggle: we all are rednecks
(10:12:44 PM) Muffinx: stlsaint: define "local."
(10:12:45 PM) Spridel_doze: meatspace, we meet in person
(10:12:48 PM) millertimek1a2m3: right, and frequent local meetings is what we should have
(10:13:17 PM) millertimek1a2m3: Muffinx: within reasonable distance of killeen
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(10:13:26 PM) thebwt: to be clear when you say "local", instead say "local-town" "local-region" "local-state"
(10:13:27 PM) Spridel_doze: IRC meetings with some meatspace
(10:13:35 PM) astechgeek: wtf!!
(10:13:52 PM) Spridel_doze: mates
(10:13:53 PM) thebwt: I tihnk killeen is "local-town", and moving towards "local-region"
(10:14:02 PM) pi-rho: Spridel_doze: I don't think irssi will do that
(10:14:07 PM) ***pi-rho checks man irssi
(10:14:18 PM) stlsaint: i dont want to stretch out too then to the point where we arent even a team anymore and no one can attend any events because they live to far away
(10:14:18 PM) stlsaint: so i think that if anyone lives 1 hour - 1hour 30mins out from killen than you are too far for central IMO!
(10:14:18 PM) stlsaint: correction...meaning if you live outside an hour and 30mins from killeen than that is too far for team
(10:14:19 PM) dailystruggle: astechgeek: wtf // why
(10:14:34 PM) astechgeek: i keep getting lag
(10:14:46 PM) dailystruggle: that sux
(10:14:46 PM) Muffinx: Okay. I'm about 20 minutes away, so that's local for me.
(10:14:56 PM) millertimek1a2m3: stlsaint, agreed about stretching out too much
(10:15:12 PM) Muffinx: I just brought it up because "local" can be open for interpretation.
(10:15:30 PM) Spridel_doze: its like the Dallas Team, is Dallas an the Surrounding area,
(10:15:30 PM) thebwt: Muffinx: I absolutley agree
(10:15:34 PM) stlsaint: Muffinx: yes you are perfect for killeen/central
(10:15:38 PM) astechgeek: I don't mind driving to dallas for meetings but theres got to a equal distance
(10:16:10 PM) Spridel_doze: 50mi North and South of waco? and East/West how far?
(10:16:15 PM) millertimek1a2m3: what about reducing the amount of work that has to be done in driving to dallas, like making party trip
(10:16:15 PM) thebwt: so stlsaint you going to make "killeen" team?
(10:16:34 PM) thebwt: millertimek1a2m3: that would be organized serpatly no?
(10:16:36 PM) astechgeek: millertimek1a2m3, agreed
(10:16:40 PM) millertimek1a2m3: right
(10:16:45 PM) stlsaint: thebwt: technically killeen team is already formed...the question was about changing to cover more area
(10:16:51 PM) millertimek1a2m3: which is fine, i was just saying it would make traveling to dallas much easier
(10:16:54 PM) stlsaint: thebwt: and changing to central texas team
(10:17:22 PM) millertimek1a2m3: well who all is too is in the regional team and not in the local team
(10:17:28 PM) millertimek1a2m3: i mean who all are we adding
(10:17:32 PM) Spridel_doze: I vote for CenTex
(10:17:49 PM) thebwt: Spridel_doze: only people in the regions affected matter
(10:17:52 PM) ***Spridel_doze is in Waco
(10:17:53 PM) stlsaint: millertimek1a2m3: thats what needs to be established...what area does Central Texas cover?
(10:17:55 PM) dailystruggle: I would see a dis advatage to the users who live more than an hour from Killeen
(10:17:57 PM) thebwt: ah
(10:18:12 PM) Spridel_doze: 50mi North and South of waco? and East/West how far?
(10:18:33 PM) millertimek1a2m3: we need to be on wave, collaboratively working on a map
(10:18:43 PM) millertimek1a2m3: why havn't we been there the entire time?
(10:18:45 PM) stlsaint: millertimek1a2m3: good idea/point
(10:18:52 PM) millertimek1a2m3: i have invitations for any that don't have wave
(10:18:53 PM) dailystruggle: then waco should be the meetspace if one happens
(10:19:02 PM) Spridel_doze: becaues wave is dumb
(10:19:08 PM) stlsaint: Spridel_doze: i think it should be an hour and a half out in all directions from killeen
(10:19:14 PM) millertimek1a2m3: Spridel_doze, wave is awesome
(10:19:21 PM) Muffinx: Actually, I'm the same distance from Waco as I am from Austin. About.
(10:19:24 PM) revertTS: wave's pretty awful
(10:19:27 PM) stlsaint: Spridel_doze: im not gonna cover an area thats closer to another team
(10:19:35 PM) Spridel_doze: what i'm saying is that waco is equi-distant to Dallas and Austin
(10:19:36 PM) dailystruggle: ohh thats wrong 100 miles
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(10:20:01 PM) dailystruggle: some states dont even cover that much
(10:20:22 PM) Spridel_doze: and that's why texas doens't follow the idea of a LoCo
(10:20:28 PM) Spridel_doze: Q. E. D.
(10:20:40 PM) Muffinx: I think that it will be hard to set concrete borders ... there are going to be gray area where people will go either direction, really.
(10:21:04 PM) dailystruggle: yeah but aint waco an hour and a half from Dallas and Ausin
(10:21:09 PM) Spridel_doze: i site in both the austin and Dallas rooms cause i'm in waco
(10:21:10 PM) Spridel_doze: sit*
(10:21:16 PM) thebwt: Spridel_doze: thats not correct, every Loco outside of the U.S. is country oriented
(10:21:25 PM) stlsaint: the general idea is for you to find a team thats closes to you...not to choose a different team everyweek
(10:22:03 PM) Spridel_doze: right now i go to Dallas or Austin
(10:22:03 PM) millertimek1a2m3: i don't want a cenTX team if it's going to force me to drive like 100 miles to every meeting.
(10:22:03 PM) Spridel_doze: no it is not
(10:22:06 PM) dailystruggle: well if its just IRC but sometimes projects require meet
(10:22:09 PM) Spridel_doze: dude its 40 miles north
(10:22:30 PM) Spridel_doze: and we can move the location
(10:22:31 PM) pi-rho: http://bit.ly/5qwplJ ==> that's how the State of Texas draws regions
(10:22:37 PM) millertimek1a2m3: Spridel_doze, then why do you want to join the killeen local? or you are voting for cenTX so you won't go to dallas or austin
(10:22:41 PM) Spridel_doze: and that IF we ahve to do a meet
(10:22:50 PM) Spridel_doze: I vote for CenTex
(10:22:51 PM) Muffinx: They way I saw it, it will be 100 miles across the region. Only fifty miles to the center point of that region, where the meetings would be.
(10:23:05 PM) Spridel_doze: and we can move meetings around
(10:23:12 PM) Spridel_doze: so not everyone is shafter everytime
(10:23:15 PM) millertimek1a2m3: holy crap this is getting long
(10:23:22 PM) thebwt: sounds like we need a waco team and a killeen team, then we need to agree that cities can do things together. Austin team can drop in on a killeen events and vis versa
(10:23:42 PM) thebwt: waco can go to killeen
(10:23:48 PM) thebwt: it's all open
(10:23:50 PM) dailystruggle: thats so true
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(10:24:28 PM) millertimek1a2m3: stlsaint, man I'm thinking I'm going to have to go
(10:24:31 PM) millertimek1a2m3: i have finals
(10:24:35 PM) Spridel_doze: is it going to kill me if i go to killeeen ONCE every 3 months?
(10:24:40 PM) stlsaint: thebwt: i have no issue with that...i have members who are 40mins away from killeen and still join
(10:24:48 PM) thebwt: stlsaint: *nods*
(10:24:50 PM) stlsaint: millertimek1a2m3: np, logs will be posted somewhere
(10:24:53 PM) Spridel_doze: is it goig to kill you if you come to waco ONce every 3 months?
(10:25:08 PM) dailystruggle: I think thats how its meant so you can find someone involved in and area
(10:25:10 PM) thebwt: Spridel_doze: no one is saying it will
(10:25:26 PM) Spridel_doze: you seem resistant to a CenTex idea
(10:25:33 PM) stlsaint: who?
(10:25:49 PM) millertimek1a2m3: I'm all for it as long as the meetings are spaced timely.
(10:25:51 PM) Spridel_doze: you stlsaint, millertimek1a2m3 , and thebwt , dailystruggle
(10:25:57 PM) millertimek1a2m3: i'm not against it
(10:26:04 PM) techgeek_: im not against it
(10:26:06 PM) thebwt: not against it if there is actualy intrest
(10:26:12 PM) thebwt: aka more people
(10:26:21 PM) techgeek_: im starting a fort worth team
(10:26:26 PM) millertimek1a2m3: i was just talking about how frequently i will drive long distances. and I'm fine with going once every three months. that seems perfectly reasonable
(10:26:26 PM) stlsaint: i have no issue with centex but like i said im not gonna be strectched to cover any and all areas who dont want to join a team closer to them
(10:26:28 PM) dailystruggle: I think i can work
(10:26:32 PM) dailystruggle1: its been real peace out from lucy
(10:26:41 PM) stlsaint: techgeek_: there is already a dallas team
(10:26:46 PM) thebwt: cya
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(10:26:51 PM) Spridel_doze: Again, I vote for CenTex
(10:26:58 PM) millertimek1a2m3: +1
(10:26:59 PM) techgeek_: fort worth is not dallas
(10:27:07 PM) stlsaint: techgeek_: ah, gotcha
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(10:27:22 PM) stlsaint: Spridel_doze: what area do you propose to cover than?
(10:27:31 PM) stlsaint: pi-rho: thanks for linky
(10:27:45 PM) Spridel_doze: i'm trying to say that we organize and then we come up with areas and meeting rotation
(10:27:54 PM) dailystruggle: that was a discussion that was happening yesterday and JJnova said that Dallas is neeing the split
(10:27:57 PM) pi-rho: stlsaint: np .. it's not perfect, but it has a major-mid sized city at the middles
(10:28:09 PM) techgeek_: the DFW area is getting huge
(10:28:13 PM) stlsaint: Spridel_doze: well in order to organize we must establish what areas are to be coverd by central texas team
(10:28:23 PM) stlsaint: pi-rho: yep yep
(10:28:41 PM) Spridel_doze: 50mi North and South of waco? and East/West how far?
(10:29:06 PM) Spridel_doze: Salado to Mexia?
(10:29:16 PM) stlsaint: why is waco the starting point
(10:29:34 PM) Spridel_doze: 100 mi from Dallas and Austin
(10:29:44 PM) thebwt: should be an everage of the people who want to form it
(10:29:49 PM) stlsaint: how far are you from killeen?
(10:29:54 PM) Spridel_doze: 40 mi
(10:29:57 PM) Spridel_doze: to temple
(10:30:03 PM) millertimek1a2m3: we need a website that each person can go to and just determine what team meets closest to them
(10:30:13 PM) dailystruggle: I think the simple need for more small meets is people driving too far
(10:30:18 PM) thebwt: millertimek1a2m3: *nods*
(10:30:23 PM) cashmoney: call it TexasTeam
(10:30:27 PM) stlsaint: Spridel_doze: well temple is about 45mins from killeen so your around two hours out from here
(10:30:57 PM) Spridel_doze: killeen is Ft hood and it is not another 45 to ft hood
(10:30:58 PM) dailystruggle: where are you?
(10:31:16 PM) millertimek1a2m3: crap just give addresses
(10:31:30 PM) millertimek1a2m3: then map it on google or mapquest or something
(10:31:34 PM) Spridel_doze: millertimek1a2m3, is in temple, i'm in waco, stlsaint is in dallas
(10:31:34 PM) stlsaint: Spridel_doze: ah from ft.hood to temple yes it is around 45mins...i used to live in temple and now i live in killeen
(10:31:36 PM) dailystruggle: 101main notown in us
(10:31:44 PM) stlsaint: Spridel_doze: im in killeen
(10:31:48 PM) millertimek1a2m3: stlsaint, no stlsaint is in killeen
(10:31:51 PM) Spridel_doze: :P
(10:31:59 PM) ***Muffinx is in Salado.
(10:32:00 PM) Spridel_doze: i meant that
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(10:32:15 PM) Spridel_doze: yeah right now the meets should be at millertimek1a2m3 dorm in TEmple then
(10:32:36 PM) stlsaint: Spridel_doze: heres the issue...i started killeen team so i want to keep it relatively local to this area...meaning not too far of our area spreading out
(10:32:39 PM) millertimek1a2m3: where did that come from?
(10:32:44 PM) stlsaint: Spridel_doze: you are pretty spread out
(10:32:56 PM) stlsaint: so maybe its starting to sound like a second team is in order
(10:33:00 PM) Spridel_doze: and that right there suggests you odn't want centex
(10:33:20 PM) dailystruggle: then why are you asking for the discussion
(10:33:24 PM) millertimek1a2m3: and the dorm is in belton
(10:33:36 PM) stlsaint: Spridel_doze: no, that is suggesting that the centex area cover more central
(10:33:38 PM) Spridel_doze: why did he ask for the mov
(10:33:43 PM) stlsaint: waco is not central to anything
(10:33:43 PM) Muffinx: thebtw: What is *approximately* the radius of the Austin team area?
(10:33:45 PM) dailystruggle: temple belton /close
(10:33:52 PM) thebwt: Muffinx: we aint got one :p
(10:33:56 PM) Spridel_doze: waco is 90 mi south of dallas and 100 miles North of austin
(10:34:00 PM) thebwt: Muffinx: we just have events in austin
(10:34:05 PM) thebwt: and however wants to come can
(10:34:11 PM) thebwt: whoever*
(10:34:26 PM) stlsaint: thebwt: i agree with your idea
(10:34:27 PM) thebwt: thats the idea anyways
(10:34:30 PM) Muffinx: lol, a singularity, eh?! *snicker* okay, just a general idea. I guess I'm trying to compare the 50 miles radius idea to teams already in place.
(10:34:53 PM) thebwt: Muffinx: haven't had an event, don't hae many members
(10:35:00 PM) thebwt: just seems mot logical
(10:35:00 PM) stlsaint: how about we get names from everyone and their locations so that we can better asses this
(10:35:03 PM) Muffinx: AH, okay.
(10:35:05 PM) dailystruggle: not for you but yes it is fairly central and you say you want killen ?? discuss what
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(10:35:20 PM) stlsaint: Spridel_doze: im not trying to single you out but i want to keep this simple
(10:35:34 PM) thebwt: stlsaint: this should go on the mailing list
(10:35:38 PM) Spridel_doze: i am too
(10:35:41 PM) thebwt: stlsaint: so that more people can reply
(10:35:42 PM) stlsaint: thebwt: agreed
(10:35:53 PM) stlsaint: thebwt: should i?
(10:35:59 PM) Spridel_doze: this should go to the forum
(10:36:03 PM) Spridel_doze: oh wait it is
(10:36:06 PM) thebwt: stlsaint: ypu start a topic
(10:36:10 PM) Spridel_doze: what's the poll say?
(10:36:24 PM) stlsaint: good question..what did the poll turn up?
(10:36:53 PM) thebwt: lol you, nor millertimek1a2m3 voted
(10:37:08 PM) thebwt: and I'm not sure a vote is the right way to go
(10:37:12 PM) stlsaint: hehe, im neutral on it
(10:37:14 PM) thebwt: that seems contrived
(10:37:14 PM) millertimek1a2m3: on what vote? i gave a vote on whether or not we should have centex much earlier
(10:37:25 PM) thebwt: http://ubuntuforums.org/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=5931
(10:37:25 PM) stlsaint: millertimek1a2m3: we are talking forum poll
(10:37:46 PM) stlsaint: is everyone here subscribed to mailing list?
(10:38:06 PM) Muffinx: I believe so, yes.
(10:38:21 PM) thebwt: assume so
(10:38:24 PM) techgeek_: I think the central texas guys need to do a thunderdome thing and that be that
(10:38:30 PM) Muffinx: This one: ubuntu-us-tx@lists.ubuntu.com ?
(10:38:38 PM) thebwt: yes
(10:38:45 PM) Muffinx: Yes, I am subscribed then.
(10:38:57 PM) Spridel_doze: so why not just let the locals vote in the poll?
(10:39:06 PM) millertimek1a2m3: stlsaint, help me subscribe to the mailing list
(10:39:07 PM) thebwt: Spridel_doze: we're doing a roster
(10:39:10 PM) Spridel_doze: cause the mailing list seems redundant
(10:39:13 PM) dailystruggle: I dont know what a thunderdome thing is but
(10:39:21 PM) Spridel_doze: Mad Max
(10:39:25 PM) Spridel_doze: 2 men enter 1 man leaves
(10:39:28 PM) dailystruggle: thanks
(10:39:32 PM) thebwt: Spridel_doze: you'll see when he posts it
(10:40:04 PM) thebwt: stlsaint: isn't making a vote, he wants to get a list of everyone, and where they live.
(10:40:07 PM) Spridel_doze: MAILING LISTS are redundant
(10:40:31 PM) thebwt: ?
(10:40:33 PM) thebwt: how so
(10:40:34 PM) stlsaint: millertimek1a2m3: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-tx
(10:40:44 PM) dailystruggle: ok is ther anything else on that
(10:40:47 PM) thebwt: we already agreed that it was the chosen medium for this sort of thing
(10:40:56 PM) stlsaint: Spridel_doze: lol...is there anything you dont dislike about current state of team?
(10:41:10 PM) Spridel_doze: did i say i was against it?
(10:41:25 PM) thebwt: we have Benifits of multiple communication channels, and proper use of wiki, dailystruggle. you want to start those up?
(10:41:30 PM) thebwt: not sure they're still needed
(10:41:35 PM) dailystruggle: he has an opinion
(10:42:02 PM) dailystruggle: ohh why is that?
(10:42:06 PM) thebwt: ?
(10:42:33 PM) thebwt: also techgeek_ , you have the testers group, but we can do an email on the list about that no?
(10:43:09 PM) thebwt: I highly doubt anyone will stop you from starting the group now.
(10:43:14 PM) dailystruggle: we need to agree that if we make major changes to the state wiki that we inform the mailing list
(10:43:21 PM) techgeek_: actually i just got a message from cashmoney about that
(10:43:45 PM) millertimek1a2m3: gahh
(10:43:46 PM) thebwt: dailystruggle: *nods*
(10:43:50 PM) techgeek_: and i was informed that there were some folks doing that before hand that it kind of went dormant
(10:44:25 PM) thebwt: so picking it back up?
(10:44:40 PM) dailystruggle: and benifit of using multiple channels
(10:45:10 PM) stlsaint: thebwt: i will send out topic on list tmrw..we can move onto next topic
(10:45:17 PM) thebwt: stlsaint: kk
(10:45:34 PM) dailystruggle: I understand that thebwt is against
(10:45:40 PM) thebwt: ?
(10:45:59 PM) thebwt: what am I against exactly
(10:46:09 PM) dailystruggle: but the benifit is that the state as a whole can get more view
(10:46:24 PM) ***stlsaint *sighs*
(10:46:27 PM) dailystruggle: using multiple channels
(10:47:03 PM) thebwt: channels as in irc channels, or do you mean multiple channels of communications (like irc, forums, mailing list, etc etc)
(10:47:22 PM) Spridel_doze: mediums of communication
(10:47:53 PM) dailystruggle: yes and doing list updates with other activities
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(10:48:02 PM) thebwt: thats fine, we just need one "official" one that we can assume everyone is a member of, that was what we talked about the maling list earlier
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(10:48:17 PM) dailystruggle: you dont really mod on the forums
(10:48:25 PM) dailystruggle: you hardly post
(10:48:38 PM) thebwt: it's late semester
(10:48:38 PM) dailystruggle: thebwt
(10:48:46 PM) thebwt: and I've kept teh annocunements up
(10:48:46 PM) dailystruggle: so
(10:48:53 PM) dailystruggle: no
(10:48:53 PM) stlsaint: wow
(10:49:10 PM) thebwt: ?
(10:49:19 PM) stlsaint: omg im so confused right now
(10:49:25 PM) dailystruggle: if you were running my site you wouldn't have a job
(10:49:31 PM) Spridel_doze: you're fired jetson
(10:49:38 PM) astechgeek: lol
(10:49:50 PM) astechgeek: rutruh
(10:49:51 PM) stlsaint: ..... :|
(10:49:52 PM) thebwt: well good thing I'm a volunteer
(10:50:04 PM) dailystruggle: look aside from the fact that you only have
(10:50:17 PM) thebwt: also forums get kind of boring when it's just me and you in there
(10:50:20 PM) dailystruggle: 200 posts or so total and you mod
(10:50:25 PM) stlsaint: can we stay focused on meeting...its 11 and i do have work 2mor
(10:50:32 PM) dailystruggle: you dont get the grip
(10:50:35 PM) dailystruggle: this is
(10:50:50 PM) dailystruggle: that is how others see the state
(10:51:14 PM) dailystruggle: if he can't mod elect someone who can
(10:51:17 PM) stlsaint: focus people focus
(10:51:32 PM) stlsaint: dailystruggle: what in the world are you talking about?
(10:51:36 PM) dailystruggle: focus what?
(10:51:54 PM) thebwt: what do you want me to mod exactly?
(10:51:59 PM) stlsaint: dailystruggle: your just being negative and not really helping anything right from what im seeing
(10:52:00 PM) dailystruggle: have you been to the forums lately
(10:52:10 PM) thebwt: yea actually I have
(10:52:29 PM) dailystruggle: we need to elect someone else that can mod simple
(10:52:52 PM) stlsaint: mod the texas forums?
(10:52:59 PM) dailystruggle: how many posts and how long on there?
(10:53:02 PM) dailystruggle: yes
(10:53:12 PM) thebwt: there is no one on them to talk to
(10:53:19 PM) stlsaint: what does post count have to do with anything...not like its crazy high traffic in there
(10:53:27 PM) dailystruggle: a mod is someone who has a constant feed
(10:53:47 PM) Spridel_doze: i'll do it, doesn't have to be constant
(10:53:52 PM) thebwt: no a mod is someone who organized the discussions, and keeps them organized
(10:54:06 PM) thebwt: organizes*
(10:54:16 PM) Spridel_doze: mod makes sure ppl behave
(10:54:23 PM) stlsaint: ^^^that too
(10:54:26 PM) thebwt: which they have
(10:54:35 PM) stlsaint: ^^^that too
(10:54:53 PM) thebwt: only time I've used mod powers is when dailystruggle posted a meeting annoubncement in every thread in the forum
(10:55:02 PM) thebwt: the same announcement
(10:55:13 PM) dailystruggle: but if it takes you a week to refresh a post or update people
(10:55:22 PM) stlsaint: dailystruggle: are you part of a team?
(10:56:13 PM) dailystruggle: what do you mean team?
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(10:56:59 PM) dailystruggle: sltsaint
(10:57:02 PM) millertimek1a2m3: i'm out
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(10:57:30 PM) stlsaint: dailystruggle: regional team?
(10:57:39 PM) stlsaint: dailystruggle: dallas, austin, houston?
(10:57:57 PM) dailystruggle: wisconsin dallas texas
(10:58:14 PM) dailystruggle: nuet and several more ??
(10:58:17 PM) dailystruggle: why
(10:58:43 PM) stlsaint: dailystruggle: bah, just asking...why again do you feel the need for a new moderator in forums?
(10:59:51 PM) dailystruggle: or another that simple he is contact he has a role let someone else mod
(11:00:57 PM) thebwt: I can do it
(11:01:04 PM) dailystruggle: it is simply a role and he has no activity and even asks why use multiple channels
(11:01:04 PM) thebwt: err
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(11:01:15 PM) thebwt: t can do it = i can make antoher mod
(11:01:31 PM) thebwt: and you are misunderstanding what I was saying dailystruggle
(11:01:37 PM) thebwt: but I'll make you a mod
(11:01:51 PM) dailystruggle: ok that makes sense spridel has offered
(11:01:54 PM) thebwt: I was simply saying don't cross post
(11:02:11 PM) thebwt: like when you posted a meeting announcement in every thread in the fourm
(11:02:16 PM) thebwt: literally
(11:02:19 PM) dailystruggle: that happen sometimes when things are formiong
(11:02:20 PM) stlsaint: i think thebwt is doing the job thats required
(11:02:47 PM) stlsaint: Spridel_doze: how long have you been using ubuntu or been in forums?
(11:03:03 PM) Spridel_doze: 3 weeks,
(11:03:16 PM) dailystruggle: not every thread more to move the topic texas had no real info now it does
(11:03:17 PM) techgeek: i just started today
(11:03:50 PM) stlsaint: dailystruggle: you comment about post count yet the person you are offering for mod has only been a user for 3weeks?
(11:03:59 PM) Spridel_doze: i nominate techgeek for mod then
(11:04:10 PM) techgeek: hell no
(11:04:32 PM) dailystruggle: a mod just watches and corrects stuff
(11:04:48 PM) stlsaint: dailystruggle: so why is the current mod not sufficient enough?
(11:04:51 PM) thebwt: what needs correcting? I need to update it for this weekends events, what else?
(11:05:19 PM) dailystruggle: ok then can I be mod?
(11:05:41 PM) thebwt: you bet
(11:05:42 PM) stlsaint: if thats the case then i can be a mod as well...i have well over 500, 600 post count
(11:05:49 PM) dailystruggle: ok
(11:05:55 PM) thebwt: you really want it?
(11:06:14 PM) dailystruggle: I believe he asked
(11:06:18 PM) thebwt: I'll msg the guy, then we need to agree on a method of organization.
(11:06:32 PM) thebwt: dailystruggle: i can see that.
(11:06:36 PM) stlsaint: thebwt: i dont see the need for you to have to step down but if you do BY CHOICE then...
(11:06:49 PM) thebwt: stlsaint: not stepping down, making other mods
(11:07:07 PM) thebwt: as long as we discuss what's getting changed
(11:07:12 PM) dailystruggle: I would not suggest he step down
(11:07:15 PM) stlsaint: thebwt: good idea...but again dont see the need but if its something that needs filling i will help
(11:08:58 PM) thebwt: post your forum profile links
(11:09:09 PM) thebwt: please
(11:09:17 PM) dailystruggle: also team channels should be at least in the open like the google austin mail list
(11:09:31 PM) dailystruggle: who
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(11:09:46 PM) stlsaint: thebwt: http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=814785
(11:09:50 PM) thebwt: dailystruggle and stlsaint so i can link them
(11:10:36 PM) dailystruggle: http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=810622
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(11:11:23 PM) thebwt: sent
(11:11:27 PM) stlsaint: hm
(11:11:50 PM) dailystruggle: the list links couls be in the respective wiki
(11:12:52 PM) dailystruggle: that just gives access to more resource being open
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(11:14:52 PM) dailystruggle: thebwt: I don't know all the links that the separate teams have that is why I would say that
(11:15:16 PM) thebwt: ?
(11:15:35 PM) thebwt: so you are wanting the mailing list locations of all the teams to be in their wikis?
(11:16:09 PM) dailystruggle: that way the users can find someone local
(11:16:27 PM) thebwt: aren't the mialing list links already there?
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(11:16:57 PM) dailystruggle: not all haven't looked recent
(11:17:10 PM) thebwt: they are already there.
(11:17:25 PM) dailystruggle: not the texas team the region /city teams
(11:18:00 PM) thebwt: I click on austin team, it's right up at the top
(11:18:07 PM) thebwt: I click on houston team, its up at the top
(11:18:23 PM) thebwt: same with dallas
(11:18:32 PM) dailystruggle: you just redid alot so I would imagine yours correct
(11:19:06 PM) dailystruggle: but like Dallas has the texas.org siteand thats dead
(11:19:49 PM) thebwt: that's not our place to fix, that's dallas team's
(11:20:16 PM) thebwt: also, where is that link
(11:20:22 PM) thebwt: I thought they were all removed
(11:20:28 PM) dailystruggle: I know but it could be with the minutes that the teams look at their pages
(11:20:34 PM) stlsaint: is the meeting concluded?
(11:20:38 PM) thebwt: stlsaint: yea
(11:20:43 PM) thebwt: END!
(11:20:48 PM) dailystruggle: totle
(11:20:48 PM) thebwt: sry
(11:20:54 PM) stlsaint: alright im turning in..l8ter
(11:20:58 PM) thebwt: cya
(11:21:20 PM) dailystruggle: when might be a next meeting?
(11:21:29 PM) dailystruggle: 1st sun
(11:21:41 PM) Spridel_doze: at 9 is what was said?
(11:21:52 PM) dailystruggle: cool thx
(11:22:04 PM) dailystruggle: whats you sound doing?
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(11:22:39 PM) Muffinx: See ya later, stlsaint!
(11:22:57 PM) dailystruggle: Spridel_doze:whats you sound doing?
(11:23:13 PM) Spridel_doze: not running after i boot
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(11:23:40 PM) Spridel_doze: it used to play the drums
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