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   1 <thebwt> hello
   2 <cg_uira> Hello, is the reunion today, right?
   3 <thebwt> "meeting" is the word you're lloking for
   4 <thebwt> looking*
   5 <cg_uira> oh, thanks
   6 <cg_uira> yes, meeting
   7 <thebwt> ;)
   8 <ranamalo> hello
   9 <thebwt> anyone else about?
  10 <thebwt> guess not
  11 <thebwt> woot
  12 <thebwt> Well we don't really have a strucutre for this meeting
  13 <thebwt> nor proposed topics
  14 <ranamalo> that's too bad
  15 <thebwt> anyone have some they'd like to mention
  16 <exit> how about we set out some goals?
  17 <thebwt> Goals for the conference or for the loco team?
  18 <ranamalo> linux fest
  19 <ranamalo> both
  20 <mrand> weee I'm here. almost forgot
  21 <thebwt> well teh later would -have- to take place on the list and not in irc
  22 <ranamalo> welcome
  23 <ranamalo> true
  24 <thebwt> if it were that simple, it'sd all ready be done ;)
  25 <ranamalo> well
  26 <ranamalo> if it was an official meeting
  27 <exit> for the meeting itself. hi all btw, greetings greetings.
  28 <ranamalo> to come up with the goals
  29 <ranamalo> for the local team
  30 <thebwt> *nods*
  31 <ranamalo> it could happen in irc
  32 <ranamalo> but any
  33 <ranamalo> this is not
  34 <ranamalo> so we should do the linux
  35 <ranamalo> fest
  36 <ranamalo> goals
  37 <thebwt> okay so then lets set some goals for TLF (texas linux fest)
  38 <mrand> 100% increase in membership!
  39 <mrand> oh wait.
  40 <ranamalo> yeah
  41 <ranamalo> sounds good
  42 <ranamalo> how many members are there now?
  43 <mrand> we don't have a real membership, to say nothing of knowing how many members there are.
  44 <thebwt> *nods*
  45 <ranamalo> well that would be hard to measure then
  46 <mrand> members in an open source community is always a moving target... it depends on people's availability.
  47 <thebwt> you'd have to define "member" first
  48 <mrand> It is very, very dynamic, which is perfectly fine.
  49 <thebwt> anyways, how about "spread awareness and increase our membership"
  50 <ranamalo> well perhaps we need to come up with metrics to measure
  51 <ranamalo> if tha is important to us
  52 <ranamalo> thebwt I would encourage having quantifiable outcome based goals
  53 <ranamalo> something we can measure
  54 <exit> well: connected ubuntu users? agreed, we need to know it that's important to us
  55 <ranamalo> and decide if we obtained the goal or not
  56 <ranamalo> for example we could say we want to get 30 more people on the ubuntu texas list
  57 <ranamalo> tha is measurable
  58 <exit> (if we're planning to increase membership then we should be able to see/show that membership has increased, when it does)
  59 <thebwt> Gotcha
  60 <ranamalo> the list is just something that came off the top of my head
  61 <exit> anyhow, what do we think of the goal?
  62 <ranamalo> perhaps there is a different place where we really want to see a change
  63 <ranamalo> in the organization
  64 <ranamalo> are there particular areas
  65 <ranamalo> in ubunt texas
  66 <ranamalo> that really need improvement?
  67 <thebwt> you guys really don't kow our history :) (that is a job for an email or two or three)
  68 <thebwt> organization needs work
  69 <thebwt> everything does
  70 <exit> quite true of course
  71 <thebwt> we are just a group of guy in an irc channela nd a mailing list, not much beyond that
  72 <thebwt> structure wise
  73 <mrand> Texas organization is still trying to get organized and figure out what it can do and how. Any and all ideas are desired and welcomed.
  74 <ranamalo> well lets start with this how many are we now?
  75 <ranamalo> how many on the list?
  76 <ranamalo> then how many (or %) participate?
  77 * thebwt is checking
  78 <mrand> Maybe 20 or so that I've seen on the mailing list over the past six months, think thebwt?
  79 <thebwt> we haven't been able to hold events to participate in, except for UDS-D
  80 <thebwt> err uds-l
  81 <mrand> UDS-L
  82 <ranamalo> what is uds-l?
  83 * thebwt am checking actual numbers
  84 <mrand> Ubuntu developers conference.
  85 <ranamalo> oh
  86 <ranamalo> yeah
  87 <mrand> It happened to be in Dallas last year.
  88 <ranamalo> cool
  89 <thebwt> Mailing list members, 86. Lunachpad group memebers, 69.
  90 <mrand> So a small group of us from around the state met there. Nearly all of those people idle on the irc channel.
  91 <cg_uira> guau, but people don't participate
  92 <ranamalo> so like 10 ?
  93 <thebwt> so our active base, is mainly the nicks on irc and a few more on the list
  94 <ranamalo> and i assume that those members are dispursed
  95 <ranamalo> arround the state?
  96 <mrand> absolutely
  97 <ranamalo> but the hubs are dallas, houston, austin?
  98 <thebwt> I am the only active guy in Austin (so far)
  99 <thebwt> you guys are super active from houston now
 100 <mrand> ^^ thebwt is the only active guy on the Texas-level organization/group.
 101 <thebwt> Mrand is the only Dallas guy I see regularly
 102 <exit> oic
 103 <mrand> There are others that would come out for events, be it meat space or irc. As long as notice is given.
 104 <ranamalo> so thebwt you are the localcontact right?
 105 <thebwt> That is correct
 106 <ranamalo> mrand what kind of number are you talking bout?
 107 <ranamalo> and where?
 108 <mrand> Well, in December or so there was a meeting here in DFW and as I recall 7 or 10 people showed up (not including me... I was out of town). There are pics and everything somewhere.
 109 <ranamalo> also was there not enough notice given for this meeting?
 110 <ranamalo> mrand that's great!
 111 <exit> noyce
 112 <exit> what were the goals/outcomes of that meeting?
 113 <mrand> It was just a meet-and-greet type meeting as I recall.
 114 <exit> very good
 115 <ranamalo> well my question is why we are we so few in this irc meeting?
 116 <ranamalo> is it the time?
 117 <ranamalo> no enought notice?
 118 <ranamalo> other?
 119 <thebwt> maybe, but theyn didn't say anything
 120 <thebwt> so I'd say lack of interest
 121 <thebwt> if the time bothered them that much, they'd have been vocal.
 122 <ranamalo> ok makes sense
 123 <ranamalo> well since we don't know the history of the group
 124 <ranamalo> could you two give suggestion for areas to improve
 125 <thebwt> just say, educate 6 people about LoCo teams
 126 <mrand> thebwt: probably so.
 127 <mrand> ranamalo: don't worry about the history. assume there is none. because there really isn't any.
 128 <thebwt> that would be a sizaeable goal
 129 <thebwt> Having an event where 2+ p[eople attend is an achievement for us
 130 <thebwt> that isn't an irc meeting
 131 <exit> ok that's a start then
 132 <ranamalo> educate 6 people abot the loco teams is the goal you are proposing thebwt?
 133 <thebwt> Yes
 134 <ranamalo> I would say why not something more likw
 135 <ranamalo> for ex
 136 <ranamalo> if you set up a meeting
 137 <ranamalo> that is going to take place a month after the LF
 138 <ranamalo> and we try to get commitments
 139 <ranamalo> from 6 (or maybe 20)
 140 <ranamalo> to come to that meeting
 141 <ranamalo> playing the odds here
 142 <mrand> hehehe
 143 <ranamalo> in my experience
 144 <ranamalo> it's the face to face meetings
 145 <ranamalo> that consolidate
 146 <mrand> face to face meetings are needed.
 147 <mrand> yep, exactly ranamalo.
 148 <ranamalo> people's participation
 149 <ranamalo> so if we get 20-25 people to join the list and say they are going to be at an austin meeting
 150 <ranamalo> we may grow the organization by 4-6 poeple
 151 <thebwt> *nods*
 152 <exit> ok, that seems like a good goal for the fest
 153 <ranamalo> does that sound like a reasonable goal?
 154 <exit> heh
 155 <mrand> ok, so how do we go about acheiving it?
 156 <mrand> Handouts?
 157 <ranamalo> well
 158 <mrand> Maybe business card sized handouts with web URL
 159 <ranamalo> I have a question
 160 <mrand> and mailing list instructions
 161 <exit> in the past, some ubuntu users have made a remix
 162 <ranamalo> what is the population that is going to be at TLF?
 163 <ranamalo> that is, who are these people going to be?
 164 <ranamalo> people who are already using linux?
 165 <thebwt> two of our people will be working for the conference, jfluhmann and spridel
 166 <ranamalo> people that are interested?
 167 <thebwt> ah
 168 <ranamalo> people who don't use linux yet?
 169 <thebwt> I will be bringing a friend who donesn't us elinux yet
 170 <thebwt> but aside form that no
 171 <thebwt> oh you mean general population
 172 <thebwt> that's not 'us'
 173 <ranamalo> i think we need to know that before we make a good strategy
 174 <ranamalo> yes exactly thebwt
 175 <mrand> jfluhmann: can you comment when you have a chance?
 176 <thebwt> this is the first year for "texas linux fest" I suspect that everyone there will know what linux is, and be somewhat familiar with it.
 177 <mrand> (1) audience size (2) audience profile (maybe how many Ubuntu users might be there?)
 178 <mrand> Right, but even still, let's make up some numbers and say that 100 people show up. And that 25 of those already use Ubuntu. We want to capture them.
 179 <ranamalo> we need to know our audience, yup that's it mrand
 180 <exit> it would be good to get a handle on that mrand
 181 <ranamalo> ok so what I'm gathering is we don't know
 182 <mrand> My thought about business card handouts is that they are super cheap and easy. All you need is standard paper and a paper cutter.
 183 <thebwt> ranamalo: yup
 184 <mrand> Does the TLF hint?
 185 <ranamalo> thebwt you are in contact with them right?
 186 <ranamalo> TLF peps?
 187 <thebwt> a little bit, I am in their irc channel on on teh mailing list
 188 <mrand> Where's jfluhmann when we need him ;-)
 189 <thebwt> hehe
 190 <ranamalo> well thebwt, do you get the sense
 191 <ranamalo> that it noobs
 192 <thebwt> no
 193 <ranamalo> or seasoned liux users?
 194 <thebwt> Seasoned
 195 <ranamalo> k
 196 <ranamalo> well ok, so how do we best consolidate geeks?
 197 <exit> pizza
 198 <ranamalo> tru tru
 199 <mrand> hahhaha
 200 <cg_uira> with the idea of the good community for geeks
 201 <ranamalo> i think gathering them together for a couple of things
 202 <ranamalo> to shoot the shit about linux/FOSS
 203 <ranamalo> and also working with linux
 204 <ranamalo> so if the meeting could do one or both of those things
 205 <ranamalo> or the meeting could be
 206 <ranamalo> to plan an install fest
 207 <ranamalo> or if someone has a better idea
 208 <ranamalo> chime in
 209 <thebwt> I like all those ideas
 210 <mrand> Welcome Malacosteus!
 211 <ranamalo> in vz we had monthly events in the library where we did presentations and workshops
 212 <ranamalo> intro to the commandline
 213 <ranamalo> phyton for humans
 214 <mrand> ranamalo: I like them too. My weekend free time is pretty limited and random, so I probably can't lead stuff like that, but I can certainly help, attend, set-up, support, etc frequently.
 215 <exit> just to be clear, is this in the context of TLF, where we're going to be talking about this meeting (or other event, as mentioned above) AT TLF
 216 <exit> ?
 217 <exit> that is, at TLF we'll be saying "hey, we have this thing in a month, why don't you come?"
 218 <ranamalo> well I was throwing out ideas
 219 <ranamalo> of how to capture geeks
 220 <ranamalo> to come to meetings
 221 <exit> no, i think it's great, cauz geeks will be there, we're face to face
 222 <thebwt> *nods*
 223 <ranamalo> and also forward the membership goals
 224 <thebwt> I'd love to do that, it's just hard to get people right now.
 225 <ranamalo> but we have this oportunity
 226 <ranamalo> now
 227 <thebwt> exactly
 228 <thebwt> So then, planning post TLF events
 229 <thebwt> as a goal for TLF
 230 <ranamalo> or setting up a body
 231 <ranamalo> to organize a post TLF event
 232 <ranamalo> for ex:
 233 <ranamalo> we are going to have a meeting
 234 <ranamalo> on whatev day
 235 <ranamalo> to plan an event
 236 <ranamalo> the current ideas
 237 <ranamalo> are install fest, migrate a school, etc
 238 <ranamalo> we need your ideas, and expertise
 239 <exit> you know i love an installfest.
 240 <ranamalo> why don't you come, we'll have pizza
 241 <exit> breakin windows heh heh
 242 <thebwt> the issue for the most part, is that the city level has to plan that, not the state level
 243 <mrand> man.... that's a recipe for either spending a lot of money, or not having enough pizza.
 244 <exit> (or ok, ok, we'll set up a dual-boot if you must have one)
 245 <ranamalo> why don't we as a state level use TLF
 246 <ranamalo> to build ubuntu austin
 247 <mrand> thebwt: I know what you're saying, but I'm not so sure... *anyone* can organize a meeting. you don't have to put "this is a statewide meeting" label on it.
 248 <exit> that makes sense
 249 <ranamalo> if austin grows that is good for the state
 250 <thebwt> mrand: I agree with that as well, I'm the contrary opinion form teh last tiem we had this discussion
 251 <thebwt> I'm posting the *
 252 <ranamalo> if there was a state-wide event in houston
 253 <thebwt> So okay, growing austin population sounds good to me :D
 254 <mrand> thebwt: understood. I say anyone can do it, anywhere, anytime. that's the open source way.
 255 <thebwt> +1
 256 <ranamalo> i would think others would want to help us get better
 257 <thebwt> you would think that
 258 <thebwt> that would be a logical assumption
 259 <thebwt> forget I said anything
 260 <exit> thebwt: well, what *could* you feasibly host a month after TLF?
 261 <mrand> ranamalo: in general, yes. When it comes to specific action, as with most volunteer organizations, 5% do the work. We aren't large enough yet to have an active 5% ;-)
 262 <thebwt> We could host a release party
 263 <mrand> But we're getting close - and you guys certainly help.
 264 <ranamalo> mrand: lol
 265 <thebwt> Austin's libraries give a place to host
 266 <thebwt> if nothing else
 267 <thebwt> but even local bar/grill would work
 268 <ranamalo> i think if you guys say to the library, we want to give a free work shop on FOSS
 269 <thebwt> I would probably get some help from local idlers
 270 <ranamalo> they may do your advertising for you
 271 <exit> libraries are great. bar/grill is ++ party atmosphre but often makes it hard to hear
 272 <exit> (well also libraries are not open late)
 273 <thebwt> true
 274 <ranamalo> yeah depends on the goal of the event i guess
 275 <ranamalo> and yes the lib is sometimes
 276 <ranamalo> closed too early
 277 <ranamalo> but universities
 278 <ranamalo> is another place
 279 <ranamalo> and is often easy to swing
 280 <ranamalo> anyway
 281 <thebwt> true... I don't know what it takes to get a meeting room up at UT
 282 <ranamalo> probably knowing an interested UT student
 283 <ranamalo> but I don't know for sure their rules
 284 <ranamalo> but they usually are not very strict
 285 <thebwt> I'll look into it
 286 <ranamalo> anywho so if we are going to promote
 287 <exit> well there's also bound to be students interested, and they might have time (to organize/support)
 288 <ranamalo> the local austin event
 289 <thebwt> if all else fails, library and then afterwards go out and grab a bite to eat
 290 <exit> and students love to put up posters i hear
 291 <ranamalo> we need to figure out time and place
 292 <exit> sure
 293 <ranamalo> before TLF
 294 <Malacosteus> actually seperating the learning and the party could be good.
 295 <ranamalo> so we can tell everyone about it there
 296 <thebwt> right
 297 <ranamalo> so thebwt you are going to working on ironing that out?
 298 <thebwt> Yes
 299 <thebwt> I have lots fo friends in UT
 300 <ranamalo> perfect!
 301 <mrand> Ok.... so before we go too far here.... TLF. Do we need anything more than flyers (of whatever size... business card or single sheet) saying how to find us on the interwebs?
 302 <ranamalo> ok how big is the booth?
 303 <thebwt> mrand: I don't think so
 304 <thebwt> ranamalo: I have no idea, robbiew is the goto guy on that
 305 <ranamalo> well i think we should know what we are dealing with
 306 <ranamalo> shoot
 307 <thebwt> he is a canonical guy near austin
 308 <ranamalo> wait
 309 <ranamalo> but we are having our own booth right?
 310 <exit> yeh i wanted to ask that
 311 <robbiew> I don't know how large the booths are
 312 <robbiew> jump into #tlf and ask
 313 <thebwt> We're going to merge them, I'ts an ubuntu booth
 314 <thebwt> was the notion iirc
 315 <thebwt> No reason not to.
 316 <ranamalo> that are kinda two things in my head but ok
 317 <mrand> ranamalo: we originally thought it was a canonical booth, so we were going to do our own. But it's actually going to be a ubuntu booth. And the fear is that the attendance will be very light at BOTH boothes if there are two Ubuntu boothes.
 318 <ranamalo> if that was that was decided
 319 <mrand> Plus it is kinda confusing from the outside to see two.
 320 <exit> thebwt: i have a reason but i've stated it in the list
 321 <mrand> How about we see how it goes this time around, and if we decide it doesn't work, we do our own next time?
 322 <mrand> Gauge attendance, audience, etc.
 323 <ranamalo> ok, sounds logical
 324 <mrand> booth size, booth location, etc.
 325 <cshane> has anyone heard any projections on how many will attend TLF?
 326 <mrand> I wonder if there are pre-registration numbers somewhere
 327 <exit> cshane: good quest
 328 <mrand> jfluhmann or anyone else ^
 329 <ranamalo> if anyone answers in the tlf channel
 330 <ranamalo> i'll ask that oo
 331 <ranamalo> i asked the booth size
 332 <thebwt> kk
 333 <ranamalo> robbiew: anyone in particular I should ping in that channel?
 334 <mrand> ranamalo, exit, Malacosteus, cshane: appreciate you all contributing to the convo!
 335 <ranamalo> mrand: glad to help
 336 <ranamalo> anyone have access to a projector?
 337 <robbiew> ranamalo: n8willis
 338 <ranamalo> we could have a slide show of all the fun we have getting together or something running to draw the attention
 339 <Malacosteus> sure
 340 <mrand> ranamalo: easy to do that with an LCD monitor as well?
 341 <ranamalo> yup
 342 <ranamalo> just smaller
 343 <ranamalo> but definitely
 344 <ranamalo> any depending on the light
 345 <ranamalo> yeah may be a lcd monitor is better
 346 <Malacosteus> yeah it might be better.
 347 <Malacosteus> i'm sure its gonna be a well lit area
 348 <Malacosteus> we probably won't need to run cables far in anycase right? does anyone know?
 349 <thebwt> nope
 350 <Malacosteus> we can make do... but if we have to run long monitor cables it could be good to know in advance.
 351 <ranamalo> got an answer:
 352 <ranamalo> booth is:10x10
 353 <ranamalo> 6x3' table and 2 chairs
 354 <Malacosteus> outlets?
 355 <exit> how cloase are we to outlets?
 356 <ranamalo> yes
 357 <ranamalo> i asked that too
 358 <ranamalo> wireless outlets
 359 <ranamalo> wireless, and outlets
 360 <ranamalo> they are expecting 3-400 peps
 361 <ranamalo> attendees will be on a different network
 362 <ranamalo> then us I assume
 363 <thebwt> neat, slightly lessed clogged wifi
 364 <ranamalo> yeah
 365 <exit> thas a good idea
 366 <exit> lol slightly
 367 <ranamalo> ok so they also
 368 <ranamalo> said that the audience
 369 <ranamalo> will
 370 <ranamalo> be mixed
 371 <ranamalo> noobs and linux heads
 372 <ranamalo> i get the sense more linux heads
 373 <cshane> will the booth be occupied the entire time or just between the sessions/talks
 374 <ranamalo> but still we should probably have something to draw
 375 <ranamalo> the noobs in too
 376 <thebwt> someone needs to be there all teh time
 377 <cshane> does anyone have a list setup with signup times?
 378 <cshane> of course a 10x10 isnt much room
 379 <ranamalo> yeah a wiki
 380 <ranamalo> would be best
 381 <ranamalo> to organize
 382 <ranamalo> shifts
 383 <mrand> You can always overflow into the isle, or next booths, or something.
 384 * mrand loves wikis
 385 <mrand> And Etherpads even more
 386 <ranamalo> we have a hosting and could setup a wiki
 387 <ranamalo> if that is needed
 388 <thebwt> Why don't we use the team wiki?
 389 <ranamalo> cool
 390 <ranamalo> makes sense
 391 <cshane> keeps it simple
 392 <ranamalo> (forgot we had that)
 393 <ranamalo> lol
 394 <thebwt> Gotot the the tlf page on the wiki, we can add a table down below
 395 <thebwt> goto*
 396 <thebwt> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TexasTeam/Meetings
 397 <thebwt> specifically https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TexasTeam/ToolBox/Updates/2010-04-10
 398 <ranamalo> ok, so given that there will be noobs
 399 <ranamalo> i would suggest that we also have some flashing stuff
 400 <ranamalo> that attracts them
 401 <ranamalo> like the compiz cube
 402 <ranamalo> on the monitor
 403 <exit> everybody loves the cube
 404 <ranamalo> we can show them a couple cool things they can do with the ubunt desktop
 405 <mrand> Make sure plenty of apps are installed in case you want to show someone something?
 406 <ranamalo> or how easy it is to install new software
 407 <ranamalo> yeah
 408 <ranamalo> things that will not seem too complicated
 409 <Malacosteus> do we have a box we could be running nexius on ?
 410 <ranamalo> but impressive
 411 <Malacosteus> or something similar?
 412 <cshane> my vote would be the usefulness of the terminal
 413 <cshane> you should learn it sometime right?
 414 <ranamalo> cshane: ahh
 415 <thebwt> thats more linux overall instead of ubuntu specifica though
 416 <ranamalo> that may not be the best
 417 <ranamalo> strategy
 418 <exit> cshane: well, yes. but that's not what draws noobs in
 419 <ranamalo> from the get-go
 420 <Malacosteus> it would be good for advanced users..
 421 <Malacosteus> but not for newbies
 422 <Malacosteus> whos our target?
 423 <ranamalo> that will probably scare then off
 424 <mrand> If you want to draw new users, you have to show that you offer everything that Windows does.
 425 <mrand> Create word, power-point, spreadsheet documents in Microsoft and then open them in OO.
 426 <ranamalo> if it's the first thing we show them
 427 <Malacosteus> That was kind of my idea with the first person shooter.
 428 <cshane> inkscape blender
 429 <Malacosteus> bring in people
 430 <Malacosteus> show them there are games in linux...
 431 <mrand> Movies, music, sound, wireless, etc. all no problem.
 432 <Malacosteus> start a conversation
 433 <ranamalo> mrand: yes show then it can do what windoze does, but the key is what more it does
 434 <cshane> when I was a noob that's the stuff that pulled me in
 435 <ranamalo> cshane you may not be the norm
 436 <cshane> the cool free software
 437 <ranamalo> yes that
 438 <Malacosteus> that will bring people in.
 439 <Malacosteus> people love free-shit
 440 <mrand> ranamalo: sure. I'm saying that is the base. Then on top of that, we've got all THIS stuff...
 441 <mrand> almost too much stuff.
 442 <ranamalo> can never have too much
 443 <ranamalo> lol
 444 <ranamalo> but yeah
 445 <ranamalo> exactly
 446 <exit> i can have nexuiz installed
 447 <Malacosteus> exit: nexuiz thanks i always spell that wrong.
 448 <thebwt> how about to put the focus into LoCo?
 449 <exit> Mala: doesn't help that they pronounce it "nex-ee-us". curse english!
 450 <exit> thebwt: good idea. can you clarify?
 451 <cshane> so you can pull them in with nice software and then you get the chance to show off how easy Ubuntu is to use
 452 <thebwt> Promoting Ubuntu is great, but most people at the confereence will know -of- ubuntu and what the software is capable of
 453 <thebwt> We need to rpomote teh community more clearly (I think)
 454 <thebwt> That is more powerful
 455 <ranamalo> yeah so we have a strategy for both audiences
 456 <ranamalo> first thing we shoudl ask
 457 <thebwt> I don't use Ubuntu because it can run 'the cube' or install packages easily
 458 <thebwt> (a few others make that claim)
 459 <mrand> I agree. There will likely be newbies, so we want to capture them. But our second, almost equal focus, is to spread the word of ubuntu-us-tx.
 460 <ranamalo> is there experience level and if they are familar with ubuntu
 461 <ranamalo> then based on that we gear our pitch
 462 <ranamalo> in a diff way
 463 <cg_uira> canonical will be there and they will promote ubuntu
 464 <cg_uira> i agree that need promote the team
 465 <ranamalo> so with geeks, the focus is their participation in making the event happen?
 466 <ranamalo> and with noobs, the focus is participation, and why use ubuntu?
 467 <thebwt> I can agree with that.
 468 <ranamalo> noobs, come to the event learn to use all this cool stuff at the event
 469 <ranamalo> ok so the list of what we have decided so far
 470 <ranamalo> can we list that
 471 <ranamalo> thebwt, can you put this list on the wiki?
 472 <thebwt> sure thing
 473 <ranamalo> ok we are goig to promote a post tlf event in austin to consolidate more members
 474 <ranamalo> our goal is to gain 6 new members
 475 <ranamalo> we want to get 20 commitments at tlf
 476 <ranamalo> of people that will come to the austin event
 477 <ranamalo> thebwt will solidify a location
 478 <ranamalo> and time
 479 <exit> sounds good
 480 <thebwt> sounds great
 481 <ranamalo> we will make a table to coordinate the shifts
 482 <ranamalo> at the booth
 483 <ranamalo> are two main audiences are geeks and noobs
 484 <ranamalo> two strategies:
 485 <ranamalo> geeks: we need your participation and expertise to make the event happen
 486 <ranamalo> noobs: come out and learn how to use all the cool stuff you saw at our booth
 487 <ranamalo> anything I'm missing?
 488 <thebwt> nothing that comes to mind
 489 <ranamalo> oh we need to have a lcd monitor
 490 <ranamalo> some need to make sure that is there
 491 <cshane> what size?
 492 <ranamalo> and a box with the cube and a number of flash programs installed
 493 <ranamalo> 19inch?
 494 <ranamalo> or bigger if possible
 495 <Malacosteus> the bigger the better
 496 <exit> i think bigger is better, if we go with the "shiny things attract folks" method
 497 <Malacosteus> but whatever is available will work
 498 <ranamalo> probably would be a good idea to list the programs
 499 <ranamalo> we think we want there
 500 <ranamalo> and have then installed before hand
 501 <ranamalo> instead of relying on the wireless to install
 502 <Malacosteus> true
 503 <thebwt> *nods*
 504 <ranamalo> i read nexuiz, cube, inscape, audacity (I would say), others?
 505 <ranamalo> i also like glipper alot
 506 <thebwt> blender
 507 <ranamalo> maybe also help noobs to sign up for the list right then and there
 508 <ranamalo> yeah blender
 509 <cshane> blender is impresive
 510 <thebwt> I have my 32 inch monitor, should I jsut bring my entire system?
 511 <exit> yeh maybe we wanna have a signup page ready
 512 <ranamalo> and make a nick for irc (maybe)?
 513 <ranamalo> thebwt: yeah dude nice!
 514 <thebwt> I can have it set up to do stuff on desktop and also do command line stuff in teh background
 515 <exit> thebwt: that sounds grand
 516 <cshane> very nice
 517 <thebwt> heya spridel
 518 <thebwt> we're wrapping up tlf chats
 519 <ranamalo> so we should for sure get peps contact info
 520 <ranamalo> do not let them leave without asking them to fill out our contact form
 521 <ranamalo> or something to that effect
 522 <thebwt> *nods* just get an email
 523 <ranamalo> yeah that works
 524 <ranamalo> oh virtualbox
 525 <thebwt> pff
 526 <thebwt> KVM
 527 <ranamalo> would be a good addition to the list
 528 <thebwt> but yea I can have Vbox ready to go
 529 <ranamalo> could be kvm
 530 <exit> SWEET well, virtualization in general
 531 <thebwt> I was actually wanting to set up a UEC cluster as well, but not sure how easy that is to 'demo'
 532 <thebwt> anyways, fun stuff
 533 <spridel> thebwt, there is a talk on the UEC, i believe
 534 <thebwt> Yup kirkland is giving it
 535 <spridel> along with the demo
 536 <ranamalo> sounds good, all this
 537 <ranamalo> thebwt and you send out an email
 538 <ranamalo> then you have it on the wiki
 539 <ranamalo> and ask everyone
 540 <ranamalo> to signup
 541 <ranamalo> for a shift?
 542 <ranamalo> i gotta go
 543 <thebwt> do-able
 544 <thebwt> ranamalo: Great meeting, thanks for the help!19:00 < ranamalo> thebwt: np glad to help
 545 <ranamalo> thanks to everyone that participated
 546 <ranamalo> we should have another meeting
 547 <ranamalo> sometime
 548 <ranamalo> before the event
 549 <ranamalo> to hash a few more things out
 550 <thebwt> I agre, I'll add that to teh email
 551 <ranamalo> the time and be proposed on the list
 552 <ranamalo> cool
 553 <ranamalo> perfect
 554 <ranamalo> later all
 555 <Malacosteus> later
 556 <Malacosteus> me too actually.
 557 <Malacosteus> take care
 558 <thebwt> will do
 559 <exit> alright, thx everybody
 560 <thebwt> kk loco bot, time to make use of you...