18:02:52 johnmark: howdidly... 18:03:11 Joe_CoT: hola! 18:03:14 ! SevenIron has joined #ubucon 18:03:16 johnmark: hola! 18:03:24 SevenIron: Yeah, I got mIRC, too! 18:03:27 SevenIron: Heh heh 18:03:28 Pici: I was expecting a few more people to be here 18:03:46 johnmark: well, it's more than last week 18:04:08 johnmark: I'll give people a couple of minutes... but I don't have long today, so I'll have to be brief 18:04:20 Joe_CoT: oh, right. irc meeting. hmm 18:04:24 johnmark: ha 18:04:44 johnmark: yeah, it's an interesting way to try to get stuff done 18:04:58 SevenIron: Brief's even better for me, too ... would like to talk about the installfest 18:05:01 wastrel: "ubucon" 18:05:13 johnmark: cool... sounds good 18:05:18 Joe_CoT: i actually just turned my pc on to check my aim :D but alright, i'm here 18:05:28 johnmark: but first I have a couple of brief updates 18:06:04 johnmark: 1. Google will let us film stuff. It's all up to us we'll have ot provide the cameras, etc. email me if you would lik eto volunteer, or you know someone who could 18:06:55 ! GNu_Joe has joined #ubucon 18:07:01 wastrel: i have a camera, but i've never used it & don't really know how to work it 18:07:08 johnmark: haha... 18:07:14 johnmark: 2. Our office is located at 76 9th Avenue in Chelsea, Manhattan, between 8th and 9th Avenue and 15th and 16th Street. Please enter the building on the northwest side (16th Street & 9th Avenue). A Google representative will be on hand to greet you, provide you with a building badge, and direct you to the 8th floor. 18:07:27 johnmark: that's straight from a Googler helping us out 18:07:55 n8k99_: hi what did i miss? 18:08:11 johnmark: n8k99: not much :) 18:08:26 johnmark: did you see points 1 and 2 above? 18:08:34 n8k99_: yes 18:08:41 johnmark: ah, ok 18:09:23 johnmark: 3. we have confirmations from Bradley Kuhn, of the Software Freedom Law Center, and Jay Sulzberger, of NYLUG, and they have agreed to speak 18:09:32 n8k99_: is there something else I can do this week? 18:09:39 johnmark: and 4. Nathan did a great flyer 18:09:49 n8k99_: thank you 18:10:01 johnmark: n8k99: heh... at htis point, I just want to make sure we've hit all the college LUG's 18:10:14 wastrel: what about a printable directions and instructions and schedule thingy 18:10:26 Joe_CoT: njit's hit, i'm trying to get some of the cs people i know to go 18:10:37 johnmark: joe_cot: thanks 18:10:43 Joe_CoT: crap, anyone tell rutger's lug? 18:10:51 johnmark: wastrel: that would be good 18:11:12 johnmark: joe_cot: good question 18:11:13 Pici: I incidentally just checked on rslug's website, nothing there about ubucon 18:11:46 johnmark: pici: ok. if you guys happen to contact a LUG, please send me a note so that I know who's in the fold and who's not 18:11:54 johnmark: and no one duplicates effort 18:12:02 Joe_CoT: i just popped into their irc. it's #ruslug 18:12:10 johnmark: in fact, a better idea would be to create a grid on the wiki so that we can identify roups we can contact 18:12:24 n8k99_: anyone get farmingdale? 18:12:42 johnmark: and check off ones that have already been contacted I'll create the grid and send a note to the list 18:12:51 n8k99_: and lilug? 18:12:52 Pici: Good idea 18:13:07 johnmark: and speaking of the wiki, we're at the point where we need to start creating wiki pages for some of the session planning 18:13:31 johnmark: installfest in particular again, I can create the shell page for the installfest and give volunteers a means of signing up there 18:14:06 Joe_CoT: has anyone volunteered to be installed? I don't picture many people lugging desktops to nyc :/ how'd it go last year? 18:14:07 johnmark: now that Jay S. and Bradley Kuhn have agreed to speak, I'll give them an opportunity to put their stuff on the wiki, as well 18:14:31 johnmark: joe_cot: that'sa good point. what happened in mountain view is that a lot of people brought laptops 18:14:42 johnmark: and they had a ton of questions about niggling stuff that wasn't working right 18:14:58 johnmark: so I kind of wished that I had set aside a separate room just for that 18:15:03 Pici: Will Google be providing wired/wireless access? 18:15:05 johnmark: which I'm doing this time :) 18:15:14 johnmark: pici: ah yes, thanks for asking 18:15:16 Joe_CoT: yeah, which is a problem. if support is iffy at this point, it's on the laptop end 18:15:30 GNu_Joe: How many talks and how many round tables? 18:15:31 johnmark: joe_cot: yeah, no one's expecting miracles 18:15:51 johnmark: pici: there will be wireless at least in the main auditorium 18:16:02 wastrel: time to learn how to hibernate/suspend :] 18:16:02 johnmark: the breakout rooms will probably only have wired access 18:16:04 johnmark: haha 18:16:44 Joe_CoT: okay. if we have internet access, I'll do some of the installfest work. should i be bringing install CDs, or are we good on that? laptops many times need the alternate install one to work 18:16:53 johnmark: GNu_Joe: the so for talks / round table breakdown... 18:17:03 johnmark: I'm assuming it will end up being about half and half 18:17:27 johnmark: joe_cot: we're good on CD's. Some Ubuntu folks are bringing a bunch with them 18:18:01 johnmark: joe_cot: but good poitn re: alternate CD's. Please bring a couple just ot make sure we can burn more if needed 18:18:20 GNu_Joe: BTW where is the flyer, I want to get it out, we have our lug meeting this comeing Wed. 18:18:35 johnmark: GNu_Joe: oh duh... I meant to send that out 18:18:45 johnmark: n8k99: can you give us the URL? 18:18:59 Joe_CoT: yeah, i'll bring a couple of each just in case. btw, what do we do about ppl that are looking to dualboot? do we tell them to install windows themselves first? 18:19:39 johnmark: http://eckenrodehouse.net/kubuntu/flyer11.pdf 18:19:46 johnmark: check out the flyer 18:20:00 johnmark: dl it, email it, print it, have your way with it :@) 18:20:08 johnmark: joe_cot: thanks 18:20:44 n8k99_: oop sorry 18:20:56 * n8k99_ was caught up in colbert report 18:21:07 Joe_CoT: i'm caught up in dinner ;) 18:21:53 johnmark: so for round tables, so far I can see round tables on "laptops and other small devices"... "software freedom and digital rights"... and "Future of Ubuntu" 18:22:26 johnmark: I know we'll have plenty for the latter two, but I need to make sure there are enough knowledgeable folks for a laptop / small devices round table 18:22:45 wastrel: extension cords 18:22:45 johnmark: if you can think of more, please send the idea to the list 18:22:55 johnmark: wastrel: I think google will provide 18:23:07 johnmark: joe_cot: missed your question re: dual boot 18:23:41 johnmark: joe_cot: for something like that, we obviously can't help them install windows first, but assuming they already have it, which is most likely, we can help withth erest 18:24:17 johnmark: so for talks... I'd like to get as many desktopcentric talks as possible 18:24:46 johnmark: Mako is coming, so he can probably give a multimedia or graphicscentered talk 18:25:03 johnmark: someone last week discussed doing a video or graphics talk, although I can't remember who 18:25:11 johnmark: it was in the IRC session 18:26:10 johnmark: what are some talks you would like to see? at least 4 Ubuntu folks will be there, including a couple from Canonical corporate what sort of things would you like to see from them? 18:26:37 GNu_Joe: I'm doing a minitalk (1015minutes) on Beryl and gDesklets if others can come up with a few more we could do a desktop thing 18:26:40 johnmark: what we had in Mountain View was someone talking about their roadmap for Ubuntu, which was hugely popular 18:27:03 johnmark: GNu_Joe: awesome. we could combine that into a desktop round table, or some such 18:27:22 johnmark: does anyone here have a lot of experience with launchpad or any of the other Ubuntu tools? 18:27:46 johnmark: I can probably find someone, but I was hoping to see what everyone in this session can do 18:28:04 GNu_Joe: johnmark, desktop shootout? we do that, each person gets 10 minutes and it's lot's of fun ( an funny as we heckle each other) 18:28:14 johnmark: haha 18:28:33 johnmark: how would it work? 18:28:34 Joe_CoT: desktop shootout? o.O 18:28:53 johnmark: 10 minutes to talk about their krad desktop? 18:29:28 wastrel: a gnucash tutorial would be pretty cool 18:29:28 GNu_Joe: ya, each person pick a desktop aka KDE Gnome etc and we have a smack down, it's very entertaining and educational 18:29:47 wastrel: that proggy has an intimidating learning curve 18:29:52 johnmark: haha... yeah, that's exactly the kind of fun session that would encourage participation 18:30:22 johnmark: or perhaps we make it between kubuntu and ubuntu? tha tmight be fun 18:30:30 johnmark: I know there are definitely kubuntu folks coming ing 18:30:52 johnmark: anybody here know xubuntu very well? 18:30:57 GNu_Joe: dude... should have been there when we did the editor smackdown with emacs vs VI it was hysterical! 18:31:03 johnmark: haha! 18:31:33 johnmark: GNu_Joe: ok, tell me how this would work and put it on the wiki. that would be awesome 18:31:51 wastrel: vi 18:32:11 johnmark: wastrel: missed your gnucash idea yeah, lots of people don't even know that it exists 18:32:30 Joe_CoT: johnmark: sort of. The closest i've got is my enlightenment experience from my gentoo days. i've got fluxbox installed, but gnome is fine for me 18:32:31 johnmark: I can see hours and hours of fun just presenting interesting desktop apps that nobody knows about 18:32:42 johnmark: joe_cot: ok 18:32:50 SevenIron: (Gotta goooo ... I'll read the transcripts & follow up privately). 18:32:59 johnmark: seven_iron: thanks! 18:33:04 ! SevenIron has left #ubucon [] 18:33:10 johnmark: ok... I've got 10 more minutes 18:33:51 johnmark: joe_cot: it's probably enough to have kubuntu vs. ubuntu. most people recognize xubuntu as being for older hardware at least that's how I've interpreted it 18:33:51 GNu_Joe: Well I think we need a roadmap talk... to make it a true "con" 18:34:10 johnmark: yeah, that will be taken care of by someone straight from canonical 18:34:14 johnmark: so we're covered there 18:34:19 wastrel: inkscape is good 18:34:25 wastrel: not as well known as gimp 18:34:32 GNu_Joe: what about a keysigning party like the fedora fokes did? 18:34:57 johnmark: wastrel: good point. and scribus... and lyx... and many others. I gotta think about how to fit that all in. send your ideas to the list 18:35:03 johnmark: gnu_joe: definitely want a keysigning 18:35:23 johnmark: perhaps we could do that in the same room as the installfest? how many people did that at fudcon? 18:36:00 Joe_CoT: bip and bitlbee. that's how i got disconnected 15 minutes ago and no one noticed :) 18:36:32 GNu_Joe: If you can lure Jono B. to come, then he could talk about Jokosher 18:36:55 Joe_CoT: isn't he in england? 18:37:13 johnmark: gnu_joe: unfortunately, he will be in Ireland at the time. Yeah, I was bummed :( 18:37:26 GNu_Joe: dang 18:37:38 johnmark: gnu_joe: what's jokosher? 18:38:21 Joe_CoT: nonlinear music editing studio 18:38:40 johnmark: joe_cot: oh very nice 18:38:56 GNu_Joe: johnmark, His's baby => http://www.jokosher.org/ one of the crown jewels of feisty 18:38:59 Joe_CoT: right? i only know what i gather from the planet 18:39:32 johnmark: gnu_joe: ok. I'll check it out. great thing about doing app sessions is taht you don't necessarily need to be the author of tha tsoftware 18:40:41 GNu_Joe: it should give garage band a run for the money 18:41:23 GNu_Joe: Well, I'm of I'll keep and eye on the list, let me know what you need, Still have yet to hear back from John about the Blender talk... 18:41:30 GNu_Joe: of=off 18:42:32 ! MagicFab!n=magicfab@ubuntu/member/magicfab has joined #ubucon 18:44:25 wastrel: a talk to introduce ubuntuforums and wiki.ubuntu.com might be good 18:44:55 johnmark: wastrel: absolutely 18:44:59 Joe_CoT: lol, well if they're there, i hope they've seen the wiki ;D 18:45:12 johnmark: gnu_joe: thanks for checking 18:45:15 johnmark: haha! 18:46:26 johnmark: wastrel: in general, a great session last time was all about using the Ubuntu community online tools 18:46:56 johnmark: Jordan Mantha gave a talk about that at the last ubucon. I'll see if I can grab his presentation somewhere 18:47:05 johnmark: that's a must have session 18:47:22 johnmark: ok... gah, wehre did the time go. I have to run. iwll send some updates to the list 18:47:40 johnmark: and let's shoot for Friday next week what time is best for everyone? 18:48:14 Joe_CoT: eh, i can't make it next week. if stuff needs brought, put it on the mailing list and i'll see what i can do 18:48:23 Joe_CoT: try not to run yourself ragged ;) 18:48:32 johnmark: haha... ok ;) 18:49:47 johnmark: ok... cya 18:50:01 Joe_CoT: later