||<>|| = Meeting opened by AlanBell at 19:03 = <'''<>'''> MooDoo: hey, <'''<>'''> o/ <'''<>'''> [TOPIC] review of action items from last meeting == review of action items from last meeting == <'''<>'''> o/ <'''<>'''> o/ <'''<>'''> o/ <'''<>'''> lol <'''<>'''> do have a look and add stuff to the report whilst I go hunt for actions in the last minutes https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/TeamReports/11/June <'''<>'''> wow pretty bare <'''<>'''> [Progress report] popey to provide sample awesome reapproval page === popey to provide sample awesome reapproval page === <'''<>'''> well some folk attended the last LoCo council meeting <'''<>'''> there are some awesome reapproval pages, I think it is going to be a tough process, but more on that later <'''<>'''> Im here :P <'''<>'''> I forgot that the meeting was at 8 :P <'''<>'''> is popey recording this weeks podcast? <'''<>'''> no matter MichealH :) <'''<>'''> AlanBell: do you have examples of some pages that you think are really good? <'''<>'''> popey is indeed off podcasting <'''<>'''> ! <'''<>'''> AlanBell: Sorry for arroving late, But I would have remembered If I was thinking today :P <'''<>'''> brobostigon, have a look at this page! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncilAgenda <'''<>'''> venuzuela for example <'''<>'''> MooDoo: onemoment, <'''<>'''> sorry <'''<>'''> ok, i have it, <'''<>'''> apologies for butting in <'''<>'''> the other action was for me to arrange a workshop, which I kind of did for today, and did a little on it but not very collaboratively <'''<>'''> ok, so before we go back to reapprovals . . . <'''<>'''> [TOPIC] AlanBell - CD Distribution == AlanBell - CD Distribution == <'''<>'''> MooDoo: sorry, i was distscted aswell, mymum is asking me question.s <'''<>'''> so I have a lot of CDs <'''<>'''> lots and lots <'''<>'''> I want them distributed to useful places <'''<>'''> yes, definatly. <'''<>'''> trade shows are not what they used to be, there are not linux shows out there <'''<>'''> ! <'''<>'''> we have a lot of hackerspaces in nottingham, i'd like some for there <'''<>'''> really, cool <'''<>'''> I tried contacting a bunch of university computing societies, but they either don't exist or don't reply <'''<>'''> :( <'''<>'''> I am totally out of the loop in terms of universities in this country <'''<>'''> i dont know anything either. <'''<>'''> if people want CDs I am more than happy to arrange to meet in London and hand over a big box, or try and figure out some other distribution method <'''<>'''> MooDoo: how can I get them to you? <'''<>'''> AlanBell, if you have paypal i could make payment to get some shipped up here to notts <'''<>'''> yup, can do <'''<>'''> AlanBell: maybe something better planned, so we cansee, where cd's are being used directly. <'''<>'''> ie pay you for the postage <'''<>'''> brobostigon, perhaps a page that shows where they go <'''<>'''> brobostigon: I did encourage people to put events and CD requirements on http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/2011plan <'''<>'''> MooDoo: yes, something like that. <'''<>'''> AlanBell: ok, let melook, good idea. <'''<>'''> I wonder if there is a london hackerspace <'''<>'''> or a linux user group that wants them <'''<>'''> My IRC client just froze. Had to re-boot <'''<>'''> I will give a bunch to paula at Fossbox, Alan Cox wants some in Bracknel, Bea wants some for a course up north somewhere <'''<>'''> museum of computing at Swindon is a possibility for some, that is Diana <'''<>'''> AlanBell: this ones the first one that comes up on Google, in Shoreditch: http://london.hackspace.org.uk/ <'''<>'''> we have this - http://www.antenna.uk.com/ <'''<>'''> i am not familier any around here, near me. <'''<>'''> nice <'''<>'''> and lacemarket house - http://www.nostringsattached.biz/index.php <'''<>'''> ok, well I want them gone, the Irish Loco got rid of theirs before ours even arrived! <'''<>'''> lots of office sharing and hacker space :) <'''<>'''> i'm trying to plan a few ubuntu hours, i should be able to get rid of them there <'''<>'''> I will take a box to London tomorrow and see if I can find that hackerspace <'''<>'''> I would love to do installfests in Universities <'''<>'''> get students in a room and actually get things done and installed <'''<>'''> however I have no idea how to make that happen <'''<>'''> interesting idea. <'''<>'''> big stick and beer.... <'''<>'''> lol <'''<>'''> :) <'''<>'''> every machine you convert to ubuntu take a drink :) <'''<>'''> everyone that works take 2 <'''<>'''> Ont the list earlier, someone was suggesting that Canonical might be the ones to make 'first contact' Hows about? <'''<>'''> Fix a bug, take 3 <'''<>'''> barrydrake, wouldn't it be better for someone in the specific area to contact first? <'''<>'''> then if we need the big guns speak to canonical? <'''<>'''> thoughts? <'''<>'''> No. If they don't know you, they don't want to know. Alumni might get a look in? <'''<>'''> Canonical can sell stuff to university chancellors if they want, I don't care about that <'''<>'''> I'm talking introductions to the IT bod <'''<>'''> getting a bunch of students enthused about ubuntu isn't a commercial proposition <'''<>'''> AlanBell: only intellectual. <'''<>'''> Beer and 'buntu sounds good to me :) <'''<>'''> Getting Ubuntu out there is - in the long term <'''<>'''> MooDoo: :) <'''<>'''> AlanBell - Canonical do 'pro-bono' - look at the support they gave to PC mag <'''<>'''> no, they do rescuing a PR disaster <'''<>'''> surely that was nothing but PR? <'''<>'''> they sent jpds out for a morning to fix stuff <'''<>'''> AlanBell - you're a cynic! <'''<>'''> and right :) * '''<>''' is too i think :) <'''<>'''> the community needs to do different stuff, sometimes in collaboration with Canonical <'''<>'''> like we did for the ubuntu in business event * '''<>''' likes the beer idea, and dissappears for a moment, <'''<>'''> anyhow we should probably move on from CD distribution to the reapproval <'''<>'''> yes, what needs to happen, there alan.? <'''<>'''> [TOPIC] AlanBell - Reapproval Application == AlanBell - Reapproval Application == <'''<>'''> I need to find the tab with the agenda, thats what! <'''<>'''> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ReApprovalApplication2011 <'''<>'''> and the application <'''<>'''> so we have to make that awesome <'''<>'''> really awesome * '''<>''' reads. <'''<>'''> we need to include all the stuff we have done for the last few years <'''<>'''> we need links to articles in the press and blogosphere about what we have been up to <'''<>'''> are we going to just add everything we find to the pad and then write it up properly later? <'''<>'''> ok, let me seewhat i can drag up, i star everything in google reader. <'''<>'''> can we take the credit for canonical's release dos? <'''<>'''> MooDoo: yes <'''<>'''> do we have an etherpad for this? <'''<>'''> BigRedS: not much of it <'''<>'''> ok, i will lookthrough my rss, <'''<>'''> BigRedS: that is a really interesting point you raise, and it has been raised before <'''<>'''> surely they're all members of u-uk? :) <'''<>'''> BigRedS, it wouldn't surprise me if lots of them have never heard of us ;) <'''<>'''> well yeah, loads of LoCo team members from the community and Canonical go to them <'''<>'''> for the last 4 or so I have been coordinating with Canonical about them (to varying degrees of success) <'''<>'''> in terms of selecting a venue, attempting to do a press launch <'''<>'''> then at least the things about the press launch and stuff should be included <'''<>'''> ah yeah, there was plans for a business-friendly one this year <'''<>'''> and loads of canonical folk do contribute to the LoCo <'''<>'''> it seems odd to discount their contributions on the basis that they work for Canonical vs any other company * '''<>''' doesnt know,how he can be of use, inall this. <'''<>'''> the podcast doesn't have a link, maybe it should? <'''<>'''> it should, we need lots of links and especially pictures <'''<>'''> brobostigon, trawling through mails, planets, blog posts looking for ubuntu -uk events and things we've done over the years. <'''<>'''> some of us have participated in canonical surveys, does it count? <'''<>'''> not sure about that <'''<>'''> we manned the stand at the cloudexpo in Barbican <'''<>'''> that's one for the list then :D <'''<>'''> MooDoo: thats one thing i am good at, keeping record of those kinds of things, somehow. <'''<>'''> brobostigon, there you go when the pad us up, add away :) <'''<>'''> MooDoo: ok, :) <'''<>'''> i'm not sure if there is a generic application template though <'''<>'''> brunogirin: yeah, that is on the list for sure ||<#FF5555>'' http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/reapproval''|| <'''<>'''> http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/reapproval <'''<>'''> a quick way to add stuff would be to go through all monthly pages and select the interesting stuff <'''<>'''> yes, the team reports have useful information on them <'''<>'''> perhaps i could point people to this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/TeamApprovalGuidelines <'''<>'''> I'm not volunteering - but someone could trawl through the list archive <'''<>'''> you could indeed <'''<>'''> there is the en_GB translation activity <'''<>'''> and the welsh team <'''<>'''> let's steal all the ideas from laura's ubuntu ie applcation page, she won' mind ;) <'''<>'''> AlanBell: i would get hold of chris, abour welshteam, i havent been keeping up, recently. <'''<>'''> perhaps we could just set a date of reviewing the pad page to see what we've got and what we need? <'''<>'''> month from today maybe? <'''<>'''> is there a due date, it all needs tobe done by ? <'''<>'''> next LoCo council meeting is 19th July which is our first opportunity to go for it <'''<>'''> has to be done this cycle <'''<>'''> ok, <'''<>'''> not too long then. <'''<>'''> wow that's like 21 ish days..... <'''<>'''> yeah <'''<>'''> best get cracking.. <'''<>'''> i was in the last approval meeting and really felt for the team that was declined renewal <'''<>'''> so don't want that to happen :D <'''<>'''> ok, let me see, i have bookmarked the pad. <'''<>'''> MooDoo: yeah, it is a distinct possibility <'''<>'''> czajkowski won't vote for us, don't know if popey will <'''<>'''> so even getting quorum for us is going to be a challenge, much less approval! <'''<>'''> AlanBell, i would of thought laura would as she's more known for ubuntu ie <'''<>'''> no <'''<>'''> popey is a bit bias so he'd have to abstain <'''<>'''> no? <'''<>'''> dunno, haven't asked him, but anyhow, we don't need to analyse the voting intentions of the panel, we need to do an awesome application <'''<>'''> yes. <'''<>'''> I hate politics <'''<>'''> quorum was my point <'''<>'''> indeed so everybody needs to find something to add to the pad <'''<>'''> if they can't get enough voters in the meeting it might end up being voted on using the mailing list <'''<>'''> Who represents us at the meeting? <'''<>'''> me and everyone <'''<>'''> I am the point of contact so I have to be there <'''<>'''> but everyone else can come and support <'''<>'''> I'm in Ireland and connection is via phone dongle and very dodgy. Will come if able. <'''<>'''> I am also going to do a bunch of stats on the ubuntu-uk launchpad team <'''<>'''> it is one of the biggest teams in the world <'''<>'''> nice, :) <'''<>'''> :) <'''<>'''> irc and mailing list stats too <'''<>'''> both, get alot of activity. <'''<>'''> we're pretty big on freenode aren't we? <'''<>'''> we tend not to use the ubuntu forums specifically to the -uk, but I guess a lot of forums users are from the UK <'''<>'''> fairly big, yeah <'''<>'''> i dont know, the forums, always seemed alttle weird, <'''<>'''> we have 3 users more than #london-hack-space so not vast <'''<>'''> there is a UK LoCo forum, but it doesn't really get used <'''<>'''> some other teams are all about the forum, especially where they have a language to identify with <'''<>'''> we get lost in the Americans :) <'''<>'''> and the ozzies and kiwis, etc <'''<>'''> yeah, I just know -nl and -fr use the forums a lot <'''<>'''> ok, lets carry on with the reapproval discussion later and in the #ubuntu-uk channel <'''<>'''> [topic] books and butties == books and butties == <'''<>'''> ok, i havent been keeping on the ml thread about this,what it it about ? <'''<>'''> meetup at the library for a trip and have a geeknic after i think <'''<>'''> Sorry guys. Gotta go. Probably not able to connect next meeting. Will try to be there the one after. <'''<>'''> o/ barrydrake ||<#FF5555>'' http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=156528094418552''|| <'''<>'''> http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=156528094418552 <'''<>'''> for the facebook folk it would be great if you could attend that and share it ||<#FF5555>'' http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/1032/detail/ is the event on the LoCo directory thing''|| <'''<>'''> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/1032/detail/ is the event on the LoCo directory thing <'''<>'''> feel free to share the facebook thing even if not going <'''<>'''> I am sure facebook would be useful if I knew what I was doing with it <'''<>'''> there maybe cake, :) <'''<>'''> there are groups and pages and I don't really understand the difference or whether we should have one <'''<>'''> there is an Ubuntu group with 200 members <'''<>'''> no idea,either. <'''<>'''> i think it's a good idea, just for the amount of people that use facebook <'''<>'''> more exposure <'''<>'''> there is an Ubuntu page with 400,000 fans <'''<>'''> There will be cake <'''<>'''> every time I did something with facebook before it wanted me to buy adverts to promote stuff <'''<>'''> you don't need to do tht to create a page.....but you need 25 likes before you get a vanity url <'''<>'''> should we do a page then? <'''<>'''> +1 from me, it's not going to hurt and can be removed at a later date if not working. <'''<>'''> I only know a few people on facebook <'''<>'''> the problem is people need to remember to update it :) <'''<>'''> yet another thing to update <'''<>'''> but its a good way to get events out there <'''<>'''> oh hi popey :) <'''<>'''> uupc has a page <'''<>'''> we just feed it the rss feed from the show * '''<>''' didn't know that ||<#FF5555>'' http://www.facebook.com/UbuntuUKPodcast''|| <'''<>'''> http://www.facebook.com/UbuntuUKPodcast <'''<>'''> rats beat me to it <'''<>'''> it doesnt update very regularly <'''<>'''> i guess it might if we put shows out more regularly <'''<>'''> we have 600 people who 'like' that page <'''<>'''> :) <'''<>'''> can't see a like button, maybe I already like it <'''<>'''> nor can I... <'''<>'''> is there an "unlike" link <'''<>'''> on the left <'''<>'''> i am an admin so see different stuff <'''<>'''> found it <'''<>'''> yes, there is <'''<>'''> so you already like it <'''<>'''> yes <'''<>'''> don't like facebook though :) <'''<>'''> so are we having one? lol <'''<>'''> so how should I have seen all the stuff on that page? <'''<>'''> something got posted 2 hours ago <'''<>'''> how do you see that without going and checking the page? <'''<>'''> it should appear on your facebook feed thing <'''<>'''> what you see when you're just at facebook.com <'''<>'''> this is going a bit off topic granted <'''<>'''> ah yeah. what is on-topic currently? <'''<>'''> the prospect of a ubuntu-uk facebook page? <'''<>'''> yes <'''<>'''> :) <'''<>'''> the british library event and promoting it and other stuff like it on Facebook <'''<>'''> aha! It should also go on the webpage :) <'''<>'''> ah, there is a link at the top for recent news, which is different to top news <'''<>'''> I've heard that facebook pages can be updated by rss <'''<>'''> only by being asked how to do it, though, so it might not be possible... <'''<>'''> yes21:07 < popey> uupc has a page <'''<>'''> 21:07 < popey> we just feed it the rss feed from the show <'''<>'''> can also post other stuff <'''<>'''> and discuss <'''<>'''> so yes, I think it is probably worth setting up such a page and feeding it the rss from the website, and updating the website <'''<>'''> and add events <'''<>'''> you can have multiple admins too <'''<>'''> and it will be there for people who notice stuff on facebook that isn't top news <'''<>'''> ah yeah <'''<>'''> and a single point to refer back to when we have to do next time next times re-approval :D <'''<>'''> it will become top news if people click like <'''<>'''> uh no MooDoo :D <'''<>'''> lol <'''<>'''> the loco council doesnt look at facebook stuff <'''<>'''> we want single point to be the wiki please <'''<>'''> and the other advantage is that those who notice can then send stuff to friends and promote the group further <'''<>'''> i was more thinking about it being reference <'''<>'''> [action] AlanBell to set up a facebook page ||<#FF5555>'' AlanBell to set up a facebook page''|| <'''<>'''> and link it to the web site's RSS <'''<>'''> yeah that too <'''<>'''> https://www.facebook.com/pages/create.php <'''<>'''> ok, any other stuff to discuss? * '''<>''' shakes head * '''<>''' shakes head, with a maybe. <'''<>'''> yes: I may go to the desktop summit in Berlin in August: is anybody going? <'''<>'''> apologies all i have to leave, pregnant wife is a callin......i'll catch up with the logs :) <'''<>'''> bye MooDoo o/ <'''<>'''> I think we're mostly at the end anyway :) <'''<>'''> ok :) <'''<>'''> MooDoo: give her our greetings. <'''<>'''> will do brobostigon :) <'''<>'''> :) <'''<>'''> brunogirin: cool, what is that? <'''<>'''> I am off to berlin in a week or two I think for an ODF plugfest <'''<>'''> that's the combined GUADEC + KDE meeting: http://trac.yorba.org/ticket/3203 <'''<>'''> nice <'''<>'''> ok, next meeting <'''<>'''> lets do one a bit sooner and focus on the reapproval stuff <'''<>'''> sorry, wrong URL: https://desktopsummit.org/ <'''<>'''> we should move fairlyquicker, concerning reapproval. <'''<>'''> brunogirin: I was beginning to wonder :) <'''<>'''> BigRedS: copy/paste error :-) <'''<>'''> 6th July? <'''<>'''> wednesday <'''<>'''> looks fine here. <'''<>'''> sounds good <'''<>'''> I'll have no real idea until the day itself, though :) <'''<>'''> 8PM? <'''<>'''> later? <'''<>'''> earlier? <'''<>'''> same, is ok, here. <'''<>'''> ok 8 it is then <'''<>'''> either works for me. I was surprised by this one being not at 9, though <'''<>'''> yeah, we thought we would try it earlier as some people found 9 rather late <'''<>'''> yeah, I sort-of remembered that after seeing it was going on at 8 <'''<>'''> ok, we can pick a chair on the night, might be me as it is rather focussed on reapproval <'''<>'''> #endmeeting ---- = Meeting closed at 20:37 = == People Present == * brobostigon * AlanBell * StevenR * brunogirin * MooDoo * MichealH * barrydrake * daubers * BigRedS * popey == Actions Recorded == * AlanBell to set up a facebook page