October24
Meeting started by akgraner at 18:03:25 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-10-24-18.03.log.html .
Meeting summary
- leadership wiki
LINK: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLeadership (akgraner, 18:06:33)
- projects page
LINK: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLeadership/Projects (akgraner, 18:08:01)
LINK: roadmap - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLeadership/Roadmap-P (akgraner, 18:09:13)
LINK: blueprint - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-p-leadership-team (akgraner, 18:09:45)
ACTION: akgraner to add valorie 's suggestions of using flossmanuals for our publications to BP and Roadmap (akgraner, 18:14:24)
ACTION: work on weekly leadership videocasts (akgraner, 18:20:52)
LINK: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingCommunity (jono, 18:23:32)
LINK: http://flossmanuals.net/ (akgraner, 18:23:34)
ACTION: leadership team to help with BuildingCommunity Knowledgebase and FAQ pages (akgraner, 18:25:02)
ACTION: add BuildingCommunity pages to blueprint and Roadmap (akgraner, 18:26:10)
ACTION: akgraner to check original bp for merging AoC to BuildingCommunity and will not gaps and get back to jono and the leadership team (akgraner, 18:31:18)
ACTION: valorie to write up pros/cons to use floss manuals for or publications etc... (akgraner, 18:38:18)
- annoucements
Meeting ended at 18:45:37 UTC.
Votes
Action items
- akgraner to add valorie 's suggestions of using flossmanuals for our publications to BP and Roadmap
- work on weekly leadership videocasts
leadership team to help with BuildingCommunity Knowledgebase and FAQ pages
add BuildingCommunity pages to blueprint and Roadmap
akgraner to check original bp for merging AoC to BuildingCommunity and will not gaps and get back to jono and the leadership team
- valorie to write up pros/cons to use floss manuals for or publications etc...
Action items, by person
- akgraner
- * akgraner to add valorie 's suggestions of using flossmanuals for our publications to BP and Roadmap
* akgraner to check original bp for merging AoC to BuildingCommunity and will not gaps and get back to jono and the leadership team
- jono
* akgraner to check original bp for merging AoC to BuildingCommunity and will not gaps and get back to jono and the leadership team
- valorie
- * akgraner to add valorie 's suggestions of using flossmanuals for our publications to BP and Roadmap
- * valorie to write up pros/cons to use floss manuals for or publications etc...
* **UNASSIGNED**
- * work on weekly leadership videocasts
* leadership team to help with BuildingCommunity Knowledgebase and FAQ pages
* add BuildingCommunity pages to blueprint and Roadmap
People present (lines said)
- akgraner (102)
- jono (56)
- valorie (52)
- bkerensa (19)
SilverLion (14)
- ashams (11)
- meetingology (10)
- Darkwing (6)
- YoBoY (4)
- jrgifford (1)
Full Log
18:03:25 <akgraner> #startmeeting
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18:03:38 <akgraner> ok not who's here for the leadership meeting
18:03:46 <akgraner> s/not/now even 18:03:53 * valorie is sorry I was late
18:03:58 <akgraner> so this is going to be one of those quick meetings
18:04:01 <valorie> connection problems
18:04:05 <akgraner> valorie, no worries so was I
18:04:09 <valorie> heh
18:04:21 * SilverLion reports active for leadership meeting
18:04:53 <meetingology> valorie: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.
18:05:00 <valorie> ooo, sorry
18:05:01 <akgraner> great - so let me grab the wiki - fail on my part for lack of an agenda but we do have the road map and blueprint to take a look at for the 12.04 cycle
18:05:15 <akgraner> valorie, I already started it
18:05:16 <valorie> also, I want to share a new resource
18:05:19 <bkerensa> hi
18:05:21 <valorie> and I think you do too
18:05:27 <valorie> o/
18:05:32 <ashams> hi
18:05:38 <valorie> yay!
18:05:43 <valorie> peeps for the meet!
18:05:52 <akgraner> so so let's look at the wiki
18:06:27 <jono>
18:06:31 <akgraner> #topic leadership wiki
18:06:33 <akgraner> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLeadership
18:06:49 <akgraner> so here is our wiki page that outlines some but not all of our goals
18:06:58 <jono> is this page just for team goals?
18:07:12 <akgraner> jono, nope I'll get to that
18:07:15 <jono> ok
18:07:29 <akgraner> I should say mission etc 18:07:46 * jrgifford reads wikipage again
18:07:52 <valorie> heh, Darkwing - fix your link
18:08:00 <akgraner> #topic projects page
18:08:01 <akgraner> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLeadership/Projects
18:08:18 <akgraner> this page has the projects we are working and goals per cycle on ut
18:08:19 <akgraner> it
18:08:34 <valorie> here is the place I jump in with my new resource idea
18:08:35 <akgraner> here's the links for the -P blueprints and roadmaps
18:08:39 <akgraner> valorie, one sec
18:08:41 <valorie> ok
18:09:08 <jono> cool
18:09:13 <akgraner> #link roadmap - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLeadership/Roadmap-P
18:09:45 <akgraner> #link blueprint - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-p-leadership-team
18:10:06 <akgraner> so take a look at those and while you are looking over those - valorie please tell us about your resource
18:10:24 <valorie> last week I wrote a book
18:10:35 <akgraner> sweet
18:10:39 <akgraner> link
18:10:47 <valorie> I mean, I seriously *wrote a book* -- have a stack of copies next to me
18:10:53 <bkerensa> =o
18:11:01 <bkerensa> wow
congrats valorie 18:11:04 <valorie> using the http://flossmanuals.org
18:11:04 <akgraner> valorie, go on
18:11:14 <valorie> with 3 Indian students
18:11:20 <akgraner> you mean http://flossmanuals.net/
18:11:30 <valorie> oops, yes
18:11:47 <valorie> their resources might not fit our needs, but they are amazing
18:11:53 <SilverLion> akgraner: fyI: the articles of mine regarding this leadership thing are online now
18:11:54 <valorie> free, opensource
18:12:04 <akgraner> totally - I'm familiar with those resources
18:12:11 <valorie> and amazingly flexible
18:12:15 <valorie> ok
18:12:52 <akgraner> nods- so your idea in regards for the team is to use this resource for our books/publications?
18:13:11 <valorie> I want to throw it into the idea pool
18:13:38 <akgraner> cool - I'll add it to the roadmap and blueprint it's a great tool/resource
Thank you! 18:13:52 <valorie> if we ever will have a need for a printed book, I would totally plump for this
18:13:55 <valorie> or ePub
18:14:01 <valorie> PDF
18:14:06 <valorie> etc.
18:14:24 <akgraner> #action akgraner to add valorie 's suggestions of using flossmanuals for our publications to BP and Roadmap 18:14:24 * meetingology akgraner to add valorie 's suggestions of using flossmanuals for our publications to BP and Roadmap
18:14:29 <valorie> if not, then bzr is available too
18:14:42 <akgraner> yep already looking at that one
18:15:09 <akgraner> ok anything else in regards to the blueprints/roadmap/ or current projects list?
18:15:11 <valorie> the other advantage of it, beyond the easy collaboration, is that it is listed on their page 18:15:19 * bkerensa has something 18:15:28 * ashams too
18:15:31 <akgraner> valorie, anything else
18:15:46 <akgraner> bkerensa, floor is yours
18:15:50 <valorie> no, I've done burbling for now 18:15:57 * bkerensa thinks it would be interesting to develop Webinars or possibly standalone videos on Leadership
18:16:12 <akgraner> bkerensa, you read my mind 18:16:41 * ashams has nothing now, thanks to bkerensa
18:16:41 <akgraner> I was going to talk to jono about mentoring us on how he does some of his UStream stuff
18:16:44 <bkerensa> Kaltura has an Open Source platform for videos and I think there might be a Open Source webinar platform out there
18:17:05 <bkerensa> UStream is decent but lots of ads
18:17:08 <akgraner> jono thoughts on that...
18:17:13 <jono> I would like to discuss new mediums of open weeks anyway
18:17:21 <jono> jcastro and I discussed this a little
18:17:28 <akgraner> yep but it's free and people can interact with each other and the speaker easily
18:17:33 <jono> how to create a more media rich environment for tuition content
18:17:43 <jono> unfortunately there are limited solutions out there
18:17:48 <jono> right now I find ustream.tv is best
18:17:54 <akgraner> jono, great - so how can we as the leadership team help you with that?
18:18:15 <akgraner> should we add that to the leaderhip summit topic ideas?
18:18:22 <akgraner> and maybe do a couple of those at UDS
18:18:22 <SilverLion> jono hey there
18:18:23 <jono> akgraner, right now, I think we don't need much help - I reached out to Google to see if they will give me a public hangout account
18:18:26 <jono> hey SilverLion
18:18:30 <bkerensa> I know Finn who used to be apart of our LoCo had this resource that was open source where you could stream video and then just embed it on your site with a IRC widget
18:18:33 * SilverLion is NRWlion
18:18:33 <SilverLion>
18:18:39 <jono>
18:19:09 <valorie> that sounds totally cool, bkerensa
18:19:17 <bkerensa> jono: Bradley Horowitz for the win... He responds to e-mail quickly
and is VP of Product (Google+) 18:19:25 <akgraner> bkerensa, it's more that just recording a session is the interaction of the community as well which is why I think jono's community QA format works so well - btu always open to suggestions
18:19:30 <valorie> I heard a lot of discussion around this topic at the GSoC Mentor Summit
18:19:37 <jono> yup
18:19:42 <jono> I think the live chat thing is key
18:19:47 <valorie> I think some great stuff might be happening soon
18:19:49 <bkerensa> akgraner: Yeah no doubt... A public hangout idea is cool though
18:20:00 <valorie> the right people were all in the room together
18:20:11 <valorie> VLC, FFmpeg, etc.
18:20:21 <akgraner> jono, do you think at UDS we can do one Leadership Ustream cast -providing bandwidth will hold up?
18:20:29 <valorie> could have used a jono too!
18:20:52 <akgraner> #action work on weekly leadership videocasts 18:20:52 * meetingology work on weekly leadership videocasts
18:20:55 <jono> akgraner, you would need to talk to IS
18:21:00 <jono> if they can do it, then sure!
18:21:00 <Darkwing> Sorry I'm late.
18:21:11 <jono> I suspect bandwidth will be your enemy - ustream needs a lot of upload
18:21:13 <jono> valorie,
18:21:20 <akgraner>
18:21:39 <akgraner> ok anything else from anyone regarding blueprints and goals for next cycle
18:21:44 <YoBoY> sorry 'im late ^
18:21:47 <jono> akgraner, feel free to ask IS, they may be able to hook you up
18:21:51 <bkerensa> UStream Backpack http://www.ustream.tv/production-services/mobile-package
18:21:52 <bkerensa>
18:21:55 <jono> can I ask a quick favor?
18:21:59 <akgraner> jono I'm meeting with them on SUnday
18:22:02 <jono> for help from the leadership team?
18:22:04 <akgraner> jono, sure
18:22:07 <akgraner> ask away
18:22:13 <jono> I would loved to see the team help focus folks on the BuildingCommunity pages
18:22:19 <jono> as a central knowledge base for leadership
18:22:24 <jono> is this something you folks could help with?
18:22:32 <bkerensa> +1
18:22:34 <SilverLion> link?
18:22:41 <akgraner> yes - let me grap the link so everyone knows what you are talking about
18:22:45 <ashams> +1
18:23:32 <jono> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingCommunity
18:23:34 <akgraner> http://flossmanuals.net/
18:23:37 <akgraner> crap
18:23:41 <akgraner> cut and paste fail
18:23:44 <akgraner> thanks jono
18:23:50 <akgraner> Yep I think we can do that
18:23:52 <jono> the main areas I think we need to focus is:
18:23:54 <jono> * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingCommunity/KnowledgeBase
18:23:59 <jono> * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingCommunity/FAQ
18:24:14 <SilverLion> jono i am blogging about this topic exactly *happy
18:24:17 <jono> my dream is that this becomes a comprehensive and central set of documentation for the project
18:24:22 <jono> SilverLion, awesome!
18:24:52 <valorie> jono, who built this resource?
18:25:02 <akgraner> #action leadership team to help with BuildingCommunity Knowledgebase and FAQ pages
18:25:02 * meetingology leadership team to help with BuildingCommunity Knowledgebase and FAQ pages
18:25:04 <jono> valorie, I started it off a few years back
18:25:13 <akgraner> in Brussels right jono?
18:25:19 <SilverLion> you got the link i sent you via PM ... there is a second article as follow up coming online in the next 10 mins
18:25:20 <akgraner> or Dallas?
18:25:24 <jono> and then Chris C and Penelope S helped add a bunch of content
18:25:30 <jono> yeah I revived it back in Dallas
18:25:57 <jono> given that the Art of Community is CC licensed I suggested we merge some of the content in there so others can consume it in bitesize pieces
18:26:10 <akgraner> #action add BuildingCommunity pages to blueprint and Roadmap
18:26:10 * meetingology add BuildingCommunity pages to blueprint and Roadmap
18:26:59 <valorie> looks like an amazing resource
18:27:01 <akgraner> jono do you want one person as the go to from the team to work on merging Art of Community in there
18:27:19 <akgraner> I thought we did that already?
18:27:23 <akgraner> but guess not
18:27:46 <akgraner> we need 2 or 3 people to help with this merging - jono thoughts
18:27:53 <jono> well much of the AoC content has been merged in
18:27:58 <akgraner> how do you want this broken down?
18:27:59 <jono> but I think more could be merged in
18:28:02 <Darkwing> I'll volunteer to do what needs to be done.
18:28:15 <jono> I think it could be cool if a few leadership team folks merged in some of the content
18:28:30 <jono> I just think it will just make BuildingCommunity a more interesting resource with more content in there
18:28:34 <jono> Darkwing, sweet!
18:28:35 <akgraner> ok can you get us a list of what content you want merged in so we don't duplicate the work 18:28:57 * bkerensa can assist Darkwing as needed
18:29:07 <jono> akgraner, basically anything else that isnt in there right now I think
18:29:16 <jono> I don't have a list of things that are in and are not
18:29:28 <jono> although I think some blueprints might list them from a while back
18:29:33 <akgraner> ok - I have the book - I'll go through it and figure it out an get back with you and the team
18:29:48 <jono> also tbh, it doesnt have to be the AoC content, I just thought it would be low hanging fruit 18:29:50 * bkerensa also has a print copy of the book
18:29:51 <bkerensa>
18:29:55 <jono> if others can write new content, that would be awesome
18:30:02 * SilverLion reports in if his time table allows
18:30:05 <jono> fortunately, merging in the book is just cut and pasting and formatting
18:30:15 <jono> the only requirement is an attribution notice at the top of each wiki page
18:30:19 <SilverLion> jono check my link pls. maybe this will be interesting for you
18:30:23 <jono> (the CC license requires that)
18:30:27 <akgraner> totally - I'll find the originally breakdown and see what still needs to be done from there
18:30:30 <jono> SilverLion, I will do later
18:30:41 <jono> thanks akgraner!
18:30:56 <jono> I think if BuildingCommunity is the central knowledge base that your team feeds into, that will be awesome
18:31:18 <akgraner> #action akgraner to check original bp for merging AoC to BuildingCommunity and will not gaps and get back to jono and the leadership team
18:31:18 * meetingology akgraner to check original bp for merging AoC to BuildingCommunity and will not gaps and get back to jono and the leadership team
18:31:28 <jono> thanks!
18:31:30 <akgraner> anything else?
18:31:33 <akgraner> from anyone
18:31:36 <jono> alright going to finish off my blog post and then hit up lunch
18:31:38 <jono> thanks, folks!
18:31:42 <akgraner> jono thanks!
18:31:45 <bkerensa> thanks jono
18:31:47 <jono> also folks, remember the mini summit at UDS!
18:31:49 <Darkwing> Thanks Jono
18:31:50 <jono> going to be fun
18:31:51 <YoBoY> thanks jono
18:31:52 <SilverLion> jono have a good one!
18:32:03 <jono> take care, folks, thanks for the great work!
18:32:05 * SilverLion is not going to be there
18:32:07 <akgraner> yeah that was going to be in the announcements 18:32:57 * akgraner apologizes for lack of agenda - that WILL be fixed for the next meeting!
18:33:24 <akgraner> ok so any other thoughts on things we are working on, things you want to see happen for the next cycle etc
18:33:50 <akgraner> suggestions or comments - the floor is open just o/ so we aren't talking all over one another
18:34:14 <ashams> does it needs a team to copy-n-pate?
18:34:41 * ashams finished
18:34:46 <akgraner> ashams, what do you mean?
18:35:01 <bkerensa> Leadership Podcast for the win
18:35:02 <ashams> it's not a much of work to do
18:35:02 <bkerensa>
18:35:12 <Darkwing> I wanted to say something
18:35:29 * SilverLion will continue his series of blog posts
18:35:29 <ashams> I beleive the /BuildingCommunity needs a complete make over
18:35:32 <akgraner> ashams, yep it's more than you think - I'll pull the stuff we already did so you can see how many people it took
18:35:36 <valorie> akgraner: is that something I should have done, since I volunteered to chair?
18:35:44 <valorie> the agenda
18:35:46 <Darkwing> I know since I drove into everyones mind that this can be done I have not been around and I wanted to apoligize for that.
18:35:50 <valorie> if so, FAIL
18:36:02 <akgraner> valorie, oh crap - I just started the meeting since we were running late
18:36:06 <valorie> I know
18:36:12 <akgraner> we;ll get this worked out
18:36:18 <valorie> it's fine -- my connection was screwed up
18:36:29 <valorie> yes
18:36:40 <valorie> Darkwing: {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
18:36:45 <Darkwing>
18:36:55 <akgraner> valorie, if you can check on the differences between flossmanuals and bzr in terms of ease of use that would be a big help
18:37:13 <valorie> ease of use: flossmanuals hands down
18:37:21 <akgraner> since we are getting ready to dump chapters 1 and 2 somewhere
18:37:30 <valorie> also better than googledocs
18:37:30 <akgraner> can you write up the why etc?
18:37:40 <valorie> sure, I'll send an email
18:37:44 <akgraner> so everyone understands etc
18:38:18 <akgraner> #action valorie to write up pros/cons to use floss manuals for or publications etc... 18:38:18 * meetingology valorie to write up pros/cons to use floss manuals for or publications etc...
18:38:24 <ashams> I'll work till Chapter 2 get completed
18:38:41 <valorie>
18:38:42 <akgraner> ashams, chapter 2 is almost finished it's Chapter 1 that needs the most help
18:38:54 <YoBoY> (don't forget l10n possibilities eventualy)
18:39:08 <ashams> Chapter 1 is filled just needs some revision, but 2 has 2 modules to fill
18:39:09 <akgraner> YoBoY, yep - you want to lead that effort
18:39:28 <akgraner> ashams, Chapter 2 is overview with supporting doc in the following chapters
18:39:50 <akgraner> just add what you think needs to be there
18:40:01 <YoBoY> I need to donwload it to read it in the plane
18:40:11 <SilverLion> akgraner: just point me where you need me
i ll go and publish my next article 18:40:28 <akgraner> SilverLion, thank you and will do - thanks
18:40:37 <akgraner> YoBoY great!
18:40:41 <akgraner> anything else
18:40:51 <valorie> wow, you folks were rocking while I was gone
18:40:59 <valorie> as expected.....
18:41:02 <valorie>
18:41:31 <akgraner> if not I'll get the blueprints and roadmaps updated and get an email to the list about today's meeting
18:41:46 <akgraner> #topic annoucements
18:42:20 <akgraner> UDS-P - next week in Orlando - if you can't go there is always remote participation which is great - I'll post something about that this week
18:43:20 <akgraner> Mini Leadership Summit at UDS - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-P/LeadershipSummit
18:43:38 <akgraner> also remote participation will be available for this as well
18:43:47 <akgraner> any other announcements
18:44:10 <ashams> akgraner: Thank you
18:44:25 <akgraner> ashams, you're welcome
18:44:37 <akgraner> anything else from anyone?
18:45:00 <valorie> great meeting; thank you amber for chairing
18:45:29 <akgraner> If not thanks everyone - I think are in the beginnings of a great resource for the community - thank you all for you hard work so far and I can't wait to see what all we can accomplish as a team this next cycle!
18:45:31 <akgraner> THANK YOU!
18:45:37 <akgraner> #endmeeting
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