2010May16



The meeting has already occurred. Please do *NOT* edit agenda. You can find the 2010May16th Meeting logs at the Ubuntu IRC Logs.

Contents

  1. Agenda
  2. Minutes

Agenda

  • Begin Meeting
  • Agenda amendments
  • LV2 Packaging:

    • continue LV2 packaging plan - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/TaskLV2Inclusion

    • might focus on getting these into Debian first
    • quadrispro has already commented he wanted to do the vocoder, perhaps he can help with others
    • any others with packaging experience and want to help?
    • can Debian Multimedia Team also help?
  • JACK2 / Pulse Audio Integration:

    • this is looking good already because JACK2 is in Debian already (per TheMuso on IRC)

    • TheMuso is apparently tracking this

    • crimsun, TheMuso, and persia have talked on IRC about how to proceed and might discuss this at UDS with Free

  • Network Manager
    • user's troubles was a bug in gnome-network-admin that left options not shown or changeable

    • Ricardo (rlameiro) reported it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-tools/+bug/570828

    • how soon can a fix be expected for users?
    • Is it possible to do a ISO re-spin, if the bug is corrected?

      • however, we still might consider testing NetworkManager again

      • whatever the decision going forward, we should document it and post to the -user mailing list
  • Ubuntu Studio Controls Update and Redesign
  • Ubuntu Studio Applications Backporting

    • discussion between John Dong and myself after Jussi poked me: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-devel/2010-May/002364.html

    • John suggested using "official" Ubuntu Studio backporting PPA because:
      • it's like kubuntu
      • it allows us to maintain control
      • it doesn't overload the already overworked backports team
      • provides proving grounds that backported apps have quality
      • then can be included in official Ubuntu backports repository
    • if we don't want to use Ubuntu Studio backports PPA then we need small group to test and provide vocal feedback in backport bugs
  • Update Website
  • Reduce Delta Between Ubuntu Studio and Debian
  • Testing Procedures
    • in order to help (and encourage) our users to test we should develop testing procedures

    • since stochastic is lead of ubuntustudio-testers group can he help develop procedures

    • ScottL offers to assist develop the procedures and document it on help.ubuntu.com
  • Ubuntu Studio Documentation
    • establish uses for help.ubuntu.com vs. wiki.ubuntu.com
    • suggested direction:
      • help.ubuntu.com is community facing documentation
      • wiki.ubuntu.com is for developers and contributors to organize for release
    • document this decision and email users

Minutes

  • Begin Meeting - Attendance: ScottL, rlameiro, astraljava, crimsun, andyzweb, guitarman
  • Agenda Amendments: none
  • LV2 Packaging
    • quadrispro is heading up the lv2 packaging but wasn't at the meeting
    • but had previously mentioned that he had at least one other person helping
    • zynjacku/lv2rack is already in debian new
  • JACK2/Pulse Audio Integration

    • before the meeting, TheMuso had mentioned that JACK2 is already in Debian and hopes to have it working for Maverick

    • crimsun said in Lucid Pulse Audio relies on udev for @audio permissions, therefore users should *NOT* be added to the @audio if Pulse is used
    • cirumsun also mentions that Connor Curran may have resources this cycle to investigate one-click enablement of JACK from indicator-sound
    • according to crimsun, the user doesn't need to be in @audio because the active user has the "active seat" and therefore access to @audio
    • also, plug-in devices like USB and firewire should have transparent usage if correct permissions are assigned in the udev rule
  • Network Manager Bug
    • gnome-network-admin had a patch applied to it that disables the interface since network-manager is being used on vanilla Ubuntu desktop
    • it was noted that there was a bug report filed for gnome-network-admin to remove the patch
    • crimsun discussed that we definitely want to get the fixed package into lucid-proposed
    • rlameiro and ScottL talked about testing network-manager, but nothing definitive was concluded
  • Ubuntu Studio Controls Update and Redesign
    • ubuntu-studio-controls needs an update to moderate /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf instead of /etc/security/limits.conf
    • rlameiro has some redesign ideas but wants to wait until other items are decided
    • ScottL says that we should still update ubuntustudio-controls for the audio.conf vs limits.conf
    • the "nice" setting was questions and crimsun thinks that renicing will not provide benefit
    • ScottL questioned if there is any other setting or application installation that is routinely done by users that could be included, but no significant suggestions were made
    • astraljava suggested including only things that did not have a relatively easy GUI

    • rlameiro asked about including a Perl script found on http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pro_Audio that helps tune audio systems

  • Ubuntu Studio Applications Backporting
    • ScottL asked for thoughts on including an "official" Ubuntu Studio backports PPA which would include backports for users before (and if) they go into the official Ubuntu -backports repository
    • astraljava showed interest in working with backports, and even integrating into the Ubuntu -backports team
    • ScottL also demonstrated interest in working with backports
    • crimsun adviced partitioning the backports into at least "stable" and "development", noting anything in "stable" should be in Debian as well
  • Website Update
    • detrate is working on it, but was unavailable for the meeting
    • however, detrate has someone working with him to help development

    • it appears that at this time the website update is progressing in WordPress

    • guitarman mentioned he believes that most new people coming to Ubuntu Studio are doing so through the website
    • as such, guitarman suggested that a 'Help' tab and 'Developer' tab on the new website to clearly direct new persons appropriately
  • Reduce Delta Between Ubuntu Studio and Debian
    • ScottL noted that it is to the Ubuntu Studio developers benefit to reduce the delta between Debian and Ubuntu Studio applications
    • this benefit mainly includes less manual maintenance for Ubuntu Studio developers
    • existing local (Ubuntu) changes should be reviewed and if found still necessary then try to push those back "upstream" to Debian if applicable (some will not be applicable)
    • astraljava offered to start tracking this, mentioning that he has talked to quadrispro about working closer with Debian Multimedia
  • Testing Procedures
    • stochastic is team leader for the ubuntustudio-testers team but was unavailable for the meeting
    • ScottL suggested a small team of those interested get together and develop guidelines for testing and noted that we have nothing right now therefore anything would be better
    • rlameiro and astraljava showed interest in developing procedures
    • rlameiro also committed to getting in touch with stochastic
    • ScottL has numerous wiki pages bookmarked and will send them to rlameiro and astraljava
  • Ubuntu Studio Documentation
    • the general consensus was that help.ubuntu.com should be to document how to *use* Ubuntu Studio
    • and wiki.ubuntu.com should be to document how Ubuntu Studio is *created*
    • guitarman suggested that help.ubuntu.com could be funneled into the ubuntustudio.org website

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