1     <bodhi_zazen> ### START MEETING ###
   2     <bodhi_zazen> As always, thank you all for coming to the meeting
   3     <bodhi_zazen> The concern I have with the UA team is , due to life, ajmorris has does not seem able to provide as much leadership as this team needs
   4     <bodhi_zazen> He pops in, but then is busy for several weeks / dare I say months ?
   5     <bodhi_zazen> So I would like to identify say two people to lead this team in his absence and coordinate with him
   6     <bodhi_zazen> I believe Hellow and panickedthumb have both expressed an interest in leadership
   7     <bodhi_zazen> Anybody else interested or does anybody want to put up nominations ?
   8     <bodhi_zazen> Any other options for providing leadership on this team in aj's absence ?
   9     * jacob thinks they'll both do great
  10     <bodhi_zazen>  /end wall of text
  11     <Hellow> :)
  12     <dmizer> i'm mostly here to put my +1 behind Hellow.
  13     <bodhi_zazen> OK, I will look on the forums to put PT and Hellow as Team Leaders
  14     <bodhi_zazen> Hellow: this should give you some additional options on the forums
  15     <bodhi_zazen> you should be able to look at the "join requests"
  16     <Hellow> Ah, ok :)
  17     <bodhi_zazen> people who have expressed an interest in joining this team
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  21     <jacob> uh-oh
  22     <Hellow> Wtf.
  23     <jacob> bad freenode
  24     <Hellow> Freenode: NO NETSPLITTING
  25     <Hellow> hubbard: GET BACK HERE
  26     <Hellow> hubbard: nao
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  29     <jacob> \o/
  30     <jacob> now for the other two...
  31     <Hellow> Do de de do do de de do
  32     <zvacet> I requested  to join the team in April and I get no answer can you answer me with yes/no
  33     <Hellow> zvacet: Not at this time, maybe in about a day :)
  34     <zvacet> O.K.
  35     <Rocket2DMn> lol
  36     <Rocket2DMn> we should start rumors while they are away
  37     <jacob> YES
  38     <Rocket2DMn> ... hey, did you hear bodhi is a squirrel sympathizer!?
  39     <Rocket2DMn> traitor i say!
  40     <jacob> OMG, I never heard!
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  43     <Hellow> That's going around pretty fast
  44     <Hellow> I just heard XD
  45     <Hellow> For some reason, BBQ sauce and fries taste good together.
  46     <Rocket2DMn> that's just b/c BBQ sauce is good
  47     <jacob> why wouldn't it?
  48     <jacob> BBQ sauce is also good on grilled cheese
  49     <jacob> ...with bacon bits
  50     <Hellow> BACON
  51     <jacob> NOM
  52     <Hellow> Where did bodhi run off to?
  53     <Hellow> Should I continue the meeting?
  54     <Hellow> TOO MANY VARIABLES
  55     <jacob> dmizer too
  56     <Hellow> NEED
  57     <Hellow> TO
  58     <Hellow> GET
  59     <Hellow> OUT
  60     <Hellow> XD
  61     <jacob> hrm...
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  63     <Hellow> (thats a reference to http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/thinking_ahead.png)
  64     <jacob> :D
  65     <PartyBoi2> what happened to the meeting?
  66     <jacob> netsplit kinda killed it
  67     <jacob> we certainly could continue
  68     <starcraftman> Hellow: doesn't seem like bodhi's coming back.... maybe ya should go on.
  69     <PartyBoi2> I agree
  70     <Hellow> Ok
  71     <starcraftman> I'm not in a rush though tbh, I got nothing in particular planned, just poking round forums and admiring the squirrel infestation.
  72     <Hellow> Erm.. wait, there is nothing to go on to :o
  73     <PartyBoi2> what about the merge of Ua with BT?
  74     <starcraftman> PartyBoi2: that was the other thing he mentioned, after leadership. I imagine he wanted a discussion and vote from members on the idea.
  75     <Hellow> Its not really something that can be discussed in individual team meetings, but only in a joint team meeting.
  76     <Hellow> I would prefer to get input from both teams at the same time, but I personally do not see a purpose of joining us and the BT.
  77     <PartyBoi2> U agree but if the UA team is happy to do this, then it can be discussed at the BT meeting
  78     <PartyBoi2> *I
  79     <starcraftman> Hellow: bt already kinda voted on it, if I recall right, we split half in favour and half abstained.
  80     <Hellow> Hrm
  81     <Hellow> Well, lets hold out for a joint meeting so we can decide in unison
  82     <starcraftman> Hellow: was just more of an informal poll, not binding of course.
  83     <PartyBoi2> I have no problems with the merge, I think it is a good idea
  84     <jacob> I'd argue for the joining personally, provides greater strength in numbers. But I agree in needing a joint decision.
  85     <starcraftman> Hellow: if you want a joint meeting, next bt meet is 25, you should add agenda and ensure members show.
  86     <Hellow> I will
  87     <PartyBoi2> but is the current UA behind the idea?
  88     <Hellow> That is what I wish to find out at the meeting
  89     <starcraftman> shouldn't all your active ua members be here?
  90     <Hellow> Basically :P
  91     <PartyBoi2> you can add my +1 at the meeting then, I can not attend those meetings due to work commitments
  92     <jacob> many UA members are on BT as well iirc
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  94     <Hellow> My argument is that the two teams do not have much in common, besides overlapping members.
  95     <starcraftman> jacob: right, I'm just a bt member fyi, though I was thinking of joining a while back.
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  98     <starcraftman> bodhi_zazen: he returns :)
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 100     <Hellow> bodhi_zazen: OMGWTFBBQLOL
 101     <bodhi_zazen> dam that was one huge netsplit
 102     <bodhi_zazen> anyone still here ?
 103     <bodhi_zazen> Hellow: poke
 104     <PartyBoi2> wb bodhi_zazen
 105     <bodhi_zazen> thanks
 106     <starcraftman> Rocket2DMn: poke
 107     <bodhi_zazen> wb dmizer
 108     <dmizer> bodhi_zazen it was just us ...
 109     <dmizer> lol
 110     <bodhi_zazen> yep
 111     <bodhi_zazen> Hellow: what can you access on the fourms now ?
 112     <bodhi_zazen> The other question for this team is -
 113     <bodhi_zazen> merge with BT or remain independent ?
 114     <Hellow> Independent, I would prefer
 115     <Hellow> And, nothing much :P
 116     <Hellow> I see no new options on the forums
 117     <bodhi_zazen> log off an back on please Hellow
 118     <dmizer> Hellow: i initially agreed with you about being independent, but the BT has some interesting possibilities that i was not aware of.
 119     <Rocket2DMn> starcraftman, sorry, was in the shower
 120     <starcraftman> Rocket2DMn: no problemo, bodhi and dmizer are back.
 121     <Rocket2DMn> groovy
 122     <Hellow> bodhi_zazen: Where would it be at?
 123     <Hellow> dmizer: I don't think the BT and UT have very much in common.
 124     <bodhi_zazen> Hellow: look in your user CP
 125     <starcraftman> dmizer: care to elaborate on your possibilities? I'm just curious.
 126     <dmizer> Hellow: the BT appears to be so much more than it used to be when i first joined UA.
 127     <Hellow> bodhi_zazen: Nothing yet
 128     <Hellow> dmizer: The BT is more focused on Beginners; the UT is much more general.
 129     <dmizer> Hellow: yes, that's what i thought too, but bodhi_zazen has explained how much the scope of BT has changed.
 130     <dmizer> they have focus groups for specific areas of the forums.
 131     <Hellow> dmizer: I would still prefer we remain independent :P
 132     <PartyBoi2> should we vote?
 133     <bodhi_zazen> Try again Hellow
 134     <dmizer> i think being part of the BT would give us access to resources, leadership, and support that would only benefit UA.
 135     <PartyBoi2> +1 dmizer
 136     <dmizer> Hellow: i used to see an advantage of being independent. what are your thoughts on remaining independent?
 137     <Hellow> Works now
 138     <Hellow> dmizer: The team would remain sovereign, and we would probably gain more members by being a individual team rather than being a subsidiary of another team.
 139     <tuxxy> I agree with Hellow +1
 140     <Hellow> bodhi_zazen: I appear to have lost my Ubuntu Member status on the forums :P
 141     <bodhi_zazen> Hellow: can you see the join requests ?
 142     <bodhi_zazen> Hellow: you can have only one =)
 143     <Hellow> bodhi_zazen: Under where?
 144     <bodhi_zazen> but let me look
 145     <Hellow> bodhi_zazen: Moderation?
 146     <bodhi_zazen> jacob: can you access the join requests on the forums ?
 147     <dmizer> Hellow: currently, the UA team is (at best) an unknown except to current membership. how do you propose we change this?
 148     <jacob> bodhi_zazen: don't believe I can
 149     <bodhi_zazen> Hellow: under User CP
 150     <jacob> Hellow: http://ubuntuforums.org/profile.php?do=editusergroups see the bottom to re-enable membership thing
 151     <bodhi_zazen> go to "Group Memberships"
 152     <Hellow> I'm there
 153     <jacob> "You are a leader of the following groups" will be shown if it's all set right
 154     <bodhi_zazen> Do you see yourself listed as a leader of any groups ?
 155     <Hellow> No
 156     <Hellow> dmizer: Primarily try to promote the team, through various ways
 157     <Hellow> dmizer: More general activity in the community would assist that
 158     <Hellow> brb
 159     <Hellow> back
 160     <dmizer> Hellow: since the BT already has a high profile, it should make promotion a breeze.
 161     <bodhi_zazen> Hellow: Do you want me to take a vote from the team on if they wish to merge with the BT ?
 162     <Hellow> dmizer: To join the team, they would have to join the BT first.
 163     <Hellow> bodhi_zazen: Go ahead.
 164     <bodhi_zazen> ### VOTE ###
 165     <tuxxy> I dont see why we need to promote a background team, if we needed new recruits we could easily select current good forum members/helpers
 166     <bodhi_zazen> Do you wish to join the BT : options +1 / -1 / 0
 167     <Hellow> -1
 168     <Rocket2DMn> 0
 169     <PartyBoi2> +1
 170     <bodhi_zazen> 0
 171     <dmizer> +1
 172     <tuxxy> -1
 173     <jacob> +1
 174     <linuxwizard> -1
 175     <starcraftman> 0
 176     <Hellow> Everyone in?
 177     <jacob> well that certainly doesn't get us anywhere :P
 178     <starcraftman> Dead even ha.
 179     <PartyBoi2> lol
 180     <dmizer> lol ...
 181     <starcraftman> 3 of everything
 182     <Hellow> bodhi_zazen: Endvote :P
 183     <tuxxy> with aj though it would have been rejected
 184     <dmizer> bodhi_zazen: would you need to be a member of BT to work UA if UA was a focus group?
 185     <bodhi_zazen> ### End vote ###
 186      
 187     There's not much else relevant to the meeting after this, so I just excluded it.