This is the '''3rd''' meeting of the '''Welsh LoCo Team''', starting at 19:37 GMT and finishing at 20:57 GMT
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* ianto
* brobostigon
* arthurL
* TonyP
* kn100
* The_Toxic_Mite
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19:37 < MootBot> Meeting started at 13:37. The chair is ianto.
19:37 < MootB [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
19:37 < brobostigon> present
19:37 < ianto> [topic] Intro
19:37 < MootBot> New Topic: Intro
19:37 < ianto> Present
19:37 < ianto> Right first off I just made a little agenda summary on the wiki
19:37 < ianto> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WelshTeam/IRC/Agenda
19:37 < ianto> These will be discussion topics for today
19:38 < brobostigon> minute, i will w3m
19:38 < ianto> Right, first off as maany of you do know, we have our forums setup.
19:38 < ianto> What would you like to see in there?
19:38 < ianto> As so far only I and TonyP have posted there
19:38 < kn100> ianto i didnt know they existed
19:38 < TonyP> yep
19:39 < kn100> maybe better advertising
19:39 < ianto> kn100: http://cymru.ubuntuforums.org/
19:39 < kn100> thanks you
19:39 < ianto> [topic] Forums
19:39 < MootBot> New Topic: Forums
19:39 < ianto> Oops forgetting stuff as the IRC chair d'oh
19:40 < ianto> Regardless, how many of you utilise the ubuntuforums.org forum normally?
19:40 < kn100> a lot of the time, the search feature is handy when looking for how to do stuff
19:41 < brobostigon> well the forums are there, to discuss anything that could be disccused within ubuntu-cymru, ie anything.
19:41 < TonyP> Not much myself, launchpad for me
19:42 < ianto> Right, so for example what would you want to be discussed in the forums?
19:42 < TonyP> I will monitor our forum though
19:42 < brobostigon> ianto: anything, and everything i suspect can be discussed via the forum.
19:42 < kn100> i think the forums would be best discussing what is happening within the group
19:42 < ianto> P.S. get posting in the intro thread!
19:42 < brobostigon> kn100: and technical questions,
19:43 < ianto> [action] Post in the intro thread
19:43 < MootBot> ACTION received: Post in the intro thread
19:43 < ianto> :)
19:43 < ianto> Right so when new stuff comes up and even stuff that gets discussed inthe meetings
19:43 < ianto> We will relay them onto the forums
19:43 < ianto> We have an interest over there now hopefully :)
19:44 < brobostigon> thats good thinking ianto
19:44 < ianto> Right makes sense, we can use the forums with SFD too (later in the meeting)
19:45 < brobostigon> SFD?
19:45 < ianto> Software Freedom Day
19:45 < kn100> i dont know what to put in my intro post :)
19:45 < brobostigon> :), i just changes to w3m ,to check,
19:46 < ianto> kn100: Do that after :)
19:46 < ianto> kn100: I'll talk you through it if needed ;p
19:46 < brobostigon> so we all post an intro about ourselves to the forum,?
19:47 < kn100> kn100 nah i just posted something short
19:47 < ianto> kn100: Cool enough
19:47 < ianto> brobostigon: Later to acknowledge that we know that it exists!
19:48 < ianto> s/it/the\ forums
19:48 < brobostigon> ianto: ok, i understand,
19:48 < ianto> Right any other topics related to the forums that you guys wanna bring up?
19:48 < brobostigon> nope, ianto
19:49 * ianto is rushing btw if you are wondering ;)
19:49 < brobostigon> why rush?
19:49 < ianto> Otherwise we could be here for 3 hours :9
19:49 < kn100> :O
19:50 < ianto> TonyP: Any input? :)
19:50 < TonyP> not really, but I would like to see more intros
19:50 < brobostigon> ok ianto :)
19:51 < ianto> [topic] New Website
19:51 < MootBot> New Topic: New Website
19:51 < ianto> We currently have a server ready for our website
19:51 < ianto> http://98.142.208.108
19:51 < MootBot> LINK received: http://98.142.208.108
19:51 < ianto> It is a VPS however we don't yet have our domain
19:52 < ianto> We will obtain this (hopefully) next week at UDS thanks to Jorge
19:52 < kn100> ianto are you looking to pay for the domain?
19:52 < ianto> kn100: Ubuntu-eu provides it for free
19:52 < TonyP> i see it works:)
19:52 < ianto> So far the VPS has hardly any web content
19:52 < ianto> However what we do have is http://98.142.208.108/planet
19:52 < kn100>
It works!
epic html code
19:52 < ianto> Which will be planet.ubuntu-cym.org
19:53 < ianto> Firstly, what platform would you prefer our site to be?
19:53 < ianto> i.e. Drupal, Django etc
19:53 < ianto> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCreatingWebsite
19:53 < ianto> On that site there are examples of which to use :)
19:54 < ianto> There are awesome Drupal templates available ;)
19:54 < brobostigon> i dont have the design knowledge to suggest anything here.
19:54 < kn100> no comment
19:54 < ianto> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Templates
19:54 < ianto> Examples of some templates available for us to use
19:56 < brobostigon> i personally prefer darker themes, easier on my eyes, like brobostigon.wordpress.com
19:56 < ianto> I am seeking volunteer website maintainers to help adminstrate the site if they wish
19:56 < ianto> And someone to fix brobo & The Planet ;)
19:56 < brobostigon> ianto: i can put my name up for that. i have some stuff to learn.
19:56 < brobostigon> though*
19:57 < kn100> ianto
19:57 < kn100> http://laubuntu.axxium.us/
19:57 < MootBot> LINK received: http://laubuntu.axxium.us/
19:57 < kn100> thats xoops
19:57 < kn100> it looks great
19:58 < TonyP> i like that too
19:58 < ianto> We have to find a trade-off between adminstrative difficulty and prettiness too ;)
19:58 < brobostigon> there no point in prettiness if its difficult to look after.
19:58 < kn100> yeah
19:59 < kn100> wiki is awesome,
19:59 < kn100> mediawiki
19:59 < ianto> We utilise moin wiki at wiki.ubuntu.com kn100
19:59 < kn100> yes i see
20:00 -!- The_Toxic_Mite [n=calvinps@host86-148-24-40.range86-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-cym
20:00 < kn100> hi thetoxicmite?
20:00 -!- arthurL [n=arthur@79-67-209-37.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-cym
20:00 < ianto> arthurL: Good to see you
20:00 < The_Toxic_Mite> Hello?
20:00 < brobostigon> ok meeting chaps
20:00 < The_Toxic_Mite> kn100: hi
20:01 < arthurL> Sorry to be tarty to the party.
20:01 < The_Toxic_Mite> I created #ubuntu-sco by accident btw
20:01 < ianto> For those who just joined us, you ought to know thhat we are currently discussing website platforms for ubuntu-cym.org
20:01 < The_Toxic_Mite> lol
20:01 < The_Toxic_Mite> arthurL: it's alright
20:01 < ianto> Paying attention to these templates https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Templates
20:01 < kn100> how easy is xoops to maintain?
20:02 < ianto> kn100: It's alien to me ;)
20:02 < ianto> [idea] Volunteer site maintainers for the website
20:02 < MootBot> IDEA received: Volunteer site maintainers for the website
20:02 < kn100> Id help maintain the site, but i don't know how :)
20:03 < brobostigon> ianto: i put my name forward, also have some parts to learn, on that front,
20:03 < The_Toxic_Mite> kn100: +1
20:03 < The_Toxic_Mite> although I am not welsh, I would like to help maintain it
20:03 < The_Toxic_Mite> :D
20:03 < brobostigon> The_Toxic_Mite: i am not welsh either
20:03 < The_Toxic_Mite> brobostigon: Lol
20:03 < kn100> oh lawd, a person without welsh blood in thier vains in the ubuntu-cym channel? its anarchy i tellz you
20:04 < ianto> kn100: Just watch out for when we get overthrown ;)
20:04 < brobostigon> kn100: my dads family is welsh
20:04 < kn100> oh lawd, its anarchy
20:04 < The_Toxic_Mite> kn100: shut up
20:04 < kn100> :)
20:04 < ianto> Anyway back to the meeting, I enjoy the idea of Drupal as so many other loCos have skinned a template for it already
20:04 < The_Toxic_Mite> xD
20:04 < kn100> Drupal, an example of it?
20:04 < ianto> kn100: www.ubuntu.com ;)
20:04 < arthurL> I also favour Drupal
20:04 < brobostigon> ianto: ok, i dont know enough about drupal to give an opinion,
20:05 < kn100> well ubuntu.com looks awesome, so drupal +1
20:05 < ianto> Alright just a little vote to see who likes/is in favour of Drupal, use +1 for yes, 0 for abstain -1 for no
20:05 < arthurL> +1
20:05 < ianto> [vote] Should drupal be used for the stie?
20:05 < MootBot> Please vote on: Should drupal be used for the stie?.
20:05 < MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot
20:05 < MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-cym
20:05 < ianto> *site
20:05 < ianto> +1
20:05 < TonyP> +1
20:05 < MootBot> +1 received from TonyP. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1
20:05 < MootBot> +1 received from ianto. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2
20:05 < arthurL> +1
20:05 < kn100> +1
20:05 < MootBot> +1 received from arthurL. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3
20:05 < MootBot> +1 received from kn100. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4
20:06 < brobostigon> +1
20:06 < MootBot> +1 received from brobostigon. 5 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 5
20:06 < ianto> Heh unanimous decision (excuse my spelling ;) )
20:06 < ianto> [endvote]
20:06 < MootBot> Final result is 5 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 5
20:06 < ianto> Right that is sorted, second point across now, design our own theme or use another LoCo's?
20:07 < brobostigon> a drupal theme,
20:07 < kn100> ianto it depends, how easy is it to theme it?
20:07 < ianto> kn100: I'm not a designer, I can't even use GIMP
20:07 < brobostigon> i favour a darker theme,
20:07 < ianto> i.e. dunno ^
20:07 < TonyP> For speed use another LOCOs and fork it later
20:07 < arthurL> +1 for darker theme
20:07 < The_Toxic_Mite> How about a coffee-flavoured theme?
20:08 < kn100> i can make images, and icons etc etc, but i have no knowledge in theming drupal
20:08 < brobostigon> easier on eyes
20:08 < The_Toxic_Mite> :P
20:08 < ianto> So sticking with the universal Ubuntu theme is bad in your guys opinion?
20:08 < ianto> That nearly all sites use?
20:08 < ianto> exclusions to kubuntu ofc
20:08 < brobostigon> ianto: i dont laways like it,
20:08 < The_Toxic_Mite> [vote] Should the universal Ubuntu theme be used for the site?
20:08 < MootBot> The_Toxic_Mite, Only the meeting chair can do that
20:08 < kn100> universal ubuntu theme in my oppinion is too generic
20:08 < The_Toxic_Mite> ok mootbot
20:09 < ianto> [Vote] Standard Ubuntu Theme/Colours to be used?
20:09 < MootBot> Please vote on: Standard Ubuntu Theme/Colours to be used?.
20:09 < MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot
20:09 < MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-cym
20:09 < ianto> happy The_Toxic_Mite?
20:09 < ianto> +1
20:09 < MootBot> +1 received from ianto. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1
20:09 < brobostigon> -1
20:09 < MootBot> -1 received from brobostigon. 1 for, 1 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 0
20:09 < TonyP> +1
20:09 < MootBot> +1 received from TonyP. 2 for, 1 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1
20:09 < arthurL> +1
20:09 < MootBot> +1 received from arthurL. 3 for, 1 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2
20:09 < The_Toxic_Mite> ianto: yeah :P
20:09 < The_Toxic_Mite> +1
20:09 < MootBot> +1 received from The_Toxic_Mite. 4 for, 1 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3
20:09 < kn100> -1
20:09 < MootBot> -1 received from kn100. 4 for, 2 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2
20:09 < ianto> [endvote]
20:09 < MootBot> Final result is 4 for, 2 against. 0 abstained. Total: 2
20:09 < ianto> Hmm 2:1 outcome
20:10 < The_Toxic_Mite> Ubuntu colours to be used
20:10 < ianto> The two who voted against, why is that?
20:10 < The_Toxic_Mite> ianto: Re-start the poll?
20:10 < kn100> i find the ubuntu colours too generic
20:10 < brobostigon> i prefer darker themes ianto,
20:10 < kn100> i think we need something unique
20:10 < kn100> ubuntus base, but with a more welsh feel
20:11 < brobostigon> kn100: agreed. :)
20:11 < The_Toxic_Mite> kn100: good idea...
20:11 < TonyP> something Welsh?
20:11 < arthurL> We could always tweak it later.
20:11 < ianto> kn100: We can achieve that with a standard Ubuntu theme ;)
20:11 < kn100> revote then? :)
20:11 < ianto> [Vote] Standard Ubuntu Themeset to be used with tweaks?
20:11 < The_Toxic_Mite> Ubuntu logo in the colours of the welsh flag, perhaps?
20:11 < MootBot> Please vote on: Standard Ubuntu Themeset to be used with tweaks?.
20:11 < MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot
20:11 < MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-cym
20:11 < ianto> Happy now revoters?
20:11 < The_Toxic_Mite> +1
20:11 < MootBot> +1 received from The_Toxic_Mite. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1
20:11 < ianto> +1
20:11 < MootBot> +1 received from ianto. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2
20:11 < arthurL> +1
20:11 < MootBot> +1 received from arthurL. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3
20:11 < kn100> +1
20:11 < MootBot> +1 received from kn100. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4
20:11 < TonyP> +1
20:11 < MootBot> +1 received from TonyP. 5 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 5
20:11 < brobostigon> +1
20:11 < MootBot> +1 received from brobostigon. 6 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 6
20:12 < ianto> Alright 6:0
20:12 < ianto> [endvote]
20:12 < MootBot> Final result is 6 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 6
20:12 < kn100> there we go
20:12 < The_Toxic_Mite> :D
20:12 < ianto> [action] Use standard Ubuntu theme for Drupal but edit it here and there for personal effects
20:12 < MootBot> ACTION received: Use standard Ubuntu theme for Drupal but edit it here and there for personal effects
20:12 < ianto> personal/groupanal? :p
20:13 < ianto> Any other input for the website? :)
20:13 < The_Toxic_Mite> ianto: Ubuntu logo in the colours of the welsh flag
20:13 < arthurL> I've done a few
20:14 < ianto> The_Toxic_Mite: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WelshTeam ;)
20:14 < ianto> Our logoo top right
20:14 < arthurL> They're nothing special but I'm hoping to work on them soon
20:14 < The_Toxic_Mite> neat!
20:14 < ianto> arthurL: Can you do a black line around the white circle of friendship block?
20:14 < ianto> To make it true white but stand otu
20:14 < ianto> *out
20:14 < The_Toxic_Mite> damn, I need to find someone that can speak Scots Gaelic
20:14 < arthurL> They'll all need a black line in that case
20:14 < The_Toxic_Mite> for my #ubuntu-sco channel
20:14 < ianto> arthurL: Yeah I know :)
20:15 < arthurL> I can do that
20:15 < ianto> Coolio good to hear
20:15 < kn100> any graphical work, im your man :)
20:15 < arthurL> In fact, I have. I think.
20:15 < ianto> We'll have a logo thread in the forums soon ;)
20:15 < ianto> [action] Logo thread in the forums
20:15 < MootBot> ACTION received: Logo thread in the forums
20:15 < arthurL> http://ubuntuforums.org/group.php?groupid=502: What about this logo?
20:15 < MootBot> LINK received: http://ubuntuforums.org/group.php?groupid=502: What about this logo?
20:15 < arthurL> The one to the right, that is.
20:16 < kn100> http://ubuntuforums.org/image.php?s=1374244ac28f989ba5559bbdc858ba26&groupid=502&dateline=1239819707 im going to fork that
20:16 < MootBot> LINK received: http://ubuntuforums.org/image.php?s=1374244ac28f989ba5559bbdc858ba26&groupid=502&dateline=1239819707 im going to fork that
20:16 < ianto> Pretty sweet for a logo
20:16 < ianto> But not for a banner
20:16 < ianto> Because the text in the middle is complicated to read
20:16 < arthurL> I have done a banner too :P
20:16 < The_Toxic_Mite> :P
20:16 < kn100> what resolution do you want for the banner? im bored
20:17 < ianto> arthurL: P.S. we have forums now if you're not up to date
20:17 < arthurL> http://craiglomax.wordpress.com/2009/04/15/ubuntu-cym-logo-designs/
20:17 < MootBot> LINK received: http://craiglomax.wordpress.com/2009/04/15/ubuntu-cym-logo-designs/
20:17 < arthurL> ianto: Oh yeah, noticed the forums
20:18 < ianto> Right logos in new thread when I get around to it (or someone else create the thread)
20:18 < ianto> Any other website input?
20:18 < kn100> we could archive IRC on it like ubuntu-uk do
20:18 < brobostigon> and stats
20:18 < ianto> kn100: I've requested and I am awaiting -eu to do that
20:19 < ianto> Been waiting two or so months now :(
20:19 < kn100> ahh i see#
20:19 < kn100> s/#/
20:19 < ianto> brobostigon: When the site is finished I'll add that too :)
20:19 < brobostigon> ianto: :)
20:19 < The_Toxic_Mite> BRB got to go in the bath
20:19 * The_Toxic_Mite is away: I'm busy
20:20 < ianto> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1168870 For after the meeting
20:20 < MootBot> LINK received: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1168870 For after the meeting
20:20 < ianto> Anything else to add on the website front before we can move on? :)
20:20 < arthurL> I have nothing to add.
20:20 < brobostigon> same here, nothing
20:21 < TonyP> same here
20:21 < ianto> That's enouggh for a pass then I guess
20:21 < brobostigon> ok
20:21 < ianto> [topic] Membership
20:21 < MootBot> New Topic: Membership
20:21 < ianto> Right here is an idea that some locos use including the Catalan one (Catalann folk are like the Welsh of Spain)
20:22 < ianto> What we can do is offer rewards to those who are active in the -cym community
20:22 < ianto> Posting in the forums, helping users, helping people switch or just help in the mailing lists
20:22 < brobostigon> thats a good idea
20:22 < ianto> What the rewards (so far) will be is an @ubuntu-cym.org address and their blog to be aggregated to our planet
20:23 < arthurL> I can see it now; "You have been attributed 10 leeks"
20:23 < kn100> HAHAHAHA
20:23 < arthurL> Let's use leeks as a currency
20:23 < ianto> arthurL: Good idea ;)
20:23 < ianto> Like the coffee beans
20:23 < kn100> Thats an awesome idea
20:23 < arthurL> =]
20:23 < brobostigon> hehe, :)
20:24 < TonyP> can i convert my launchpad karma toleeks
20:24 < ianto> Of course anyone will be able to be a member and it'll be a lot less informal than official Ubuntu membership
20:24 < ianto> s/less/more
20:24 < ianto> Never use less and informal at the same time when you mean informal to start with!
20:25 < brobostigon> i agree, it a good idea, i like it,
20:25 < arthurL> +1
20:25 < ianto> Enough info to vote on it or you wanna add more input
20:25 < ianto> Or question it?
20:25 < kn100> vote i thinks
20:25 < arthurL> Looks good enough for a vote to me
20:25 < TonyP> ok
20:26 < ianto> [vote] Have our own form of membership?
20:26 < MootBot> Please vote on: Have our own form of membership?.
20:26 < MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot
20:26 < MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-cym
20:26 < ianto> +1
20:26 < MootBot> +1 received from ianto. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1
20:26 < brobostigon> +1
20:26 < MootBot> +1 received from brobostigon. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2
20:26 < kn100> +1
20:26 < MootBot> +1 received from kn100. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3
20:26 < TonyP> +1
20:26 < MootBot> +1 received from TonyP. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4
20:26 < arthurL> +1
20:26 < MootBot> +1 received from arthurL. 5 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 5
20:26 < ianto> We only have 5 since the scotsman went for his bath
20:26 < ianto> [endvote]
20:26 < MootBot> Final result is 5 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 5
20:26 < brobostigon> :)
20:27 < ianto> I'll leave SFD for the forums or discuss it here first?
20:27 < ianto> Software Freedom day
20:27 < kn100> for the forums
20:27 < brobostigon> ianto: what does it involve?
20:28 < ianto> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WelshTeam/SoftwareFreedomDay
20:28 < brobostigon> ok, i will have a look later, when we are done.
20:28 < ianto> brobostigon: It can be anything
20:29 < brobostigon> well i have a new chat engine for my website, ipv6 taylorworld.mooo.com/minichat , which a friend designed for me.
20:29 < ianto> I'll add that to our forums later then rather than spending many hours planning atm :p
20:29 < ianto> Or does anyone want to discuss it now?
20:29 < brobostigon> so i can host a freedom chat, untill we find a permenent server
20:30 < arthurL> I think it's more suited to the forums
20:30 < brobostigon> ok,
20:30 < ianto> Or even better a mailing list eh?
20:30 < ianto> [topic] List & Site
20:30 < MootBot> New Topic: List & Site
20:30 < brobostigon> mailing list, :)
20:30 < arthurL> Either or
20:30 < ianto> Might as well add this taht jcastro & another friend will be setting it all up at UDS
20:30 < brobostigon> do we have a mailing list?
20:30 < ianto> In a week or two we will have confirmation of it
20:31 < TonyP> I like mailing lists myself
20:31 < brobostigon> ok, :)
20:31 < ianto> It deserved its own litttle topic even if it was just IT IS FINALLY BEINGDONE post ;)
20:31 < brobostigon> agreed ianto
20:31 < ianto> [Topic] Merchandise
20:31 < MootBot> New Topic: Merchandise
20:32 < ianto> Right -cym lp members will know that I've been giving out freebies lately
20:32 < ianto> Such as case stickers, paper stickers and discs
20:32 < ianto> Given out near 100 discs and 40 or so stickers
20:32 < ianto> case stickers ^
20:32 < brobostigon> wow, :)
20:33 < arthurL> Golly, didn't think you'd give that much out
20:33 < ianto> But I've been emailing trademarks@canonical.com and they have permitted us to have -cym exclusive merchandise too
20:33 < TonyP> great
20:33 < ianto> I've been speaking to a local t-shirt manufacturer right here in this village and we can get t-shirts for £6
20:33 < ianto> And special mp3 hoodies too ;)
20:33 < brobostigon> ianto: thats good news, i rememer you telling me about that afew weeks ago,
20:33 < ianto> Unsure of the hoody cost atm
20:33 < arthurL> Wych!
20:34 < brobostigon> ubuntu-cym collar pins?
20:34 < ianto> In reality the cost of the T-shirt is £5 but as long as you guys agree, we can keep a log of purchases (exlcuding names and addresses) and use that extra £1 to -cym related stuff
20:34 < ianto> and keeping a log of purchases too
20:34 < ianto> i.e. VPS bills
20:35 < brobostigon> ianto: like a donation?
20:35 < ianto> Or renting a place for vfenues
20:35 < arthurL> Me likes
20:35 < ianto> brobostigon: Donation where you recieve a product too :)
20:35 < arthurL> It's more like a tax
20:35 < brobostigon> ianto: yep, :)
20:35 < ianto> Yeah UAT
20:35 < ianto> Ubuntu Added Tax
20:35 < arthurL> Lawld
20:35 < brobostigon> ucat, ubuntu-cym added tax
20:36 < ianto> Of course some people may see this as a bad move
20:36 < ianto> So I'd like to see what you guys think ;-)
20:36 < brobostigon> ianto: agreed, some might,
20:36 < brobostigon> i think it is a good idea,
20:36 < arthurL> ++;
20:37 * brobostigon bangs his head on the table, at seeing what his mum just put on the tv, :(
20:37 < ianto> Of course we can't all do this with one man, too much chance of corruption ;). We will need a treasurer too
20:37 < ianto> Or secretary
20:37 < brobostigon> thats definatly a good idea.
20:38 < arthurL> Agreed.
20:38 < brobostigon> and freely published
20:38 < arthurL> It *must* be someone who we can trust
20:38 < arthurL> and it *must* be transparent
20:38 < ianto> It *can't* be me ;)
20:38 < kn100> i will be the treasurer :p
20:38 < brobostigon> that makes sense ianto
20:38 < kn100> ;)
20:38 < ianto> kn100: Heh slow down you've only been here two days ;)
20:39 < arthurL> We could do a vote for the treasurer like we did for the POC
20:39 < kn100> i dont want to be the treasurer mate, i was being sarcastic
20:39 < TonyP> good idea
20:39 < ianto> Yeah that's a possibility but it has to be someone _reliable_
20:39 < arthurL> And good with money
20:40 < brobostigon> i will not put myself down for that job.
20:40 < ianto> That rules out half of the team then ;)
20:40 -!- Irssi: #ubuntu-cym: Total of 17 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 17 normal]
20:41 < ianto> Is there anyone who'd like to volunteer however?
20:41 < arthurL> Yo.
20:41 < kn100> ianto i think you are best for the job
20:41 < ianto> kn100: Can't ;)
20:42 < kn100> cant?
20:42 < kn100> or wont
20:42 < kn100> :)
20:42 < ianto> Admittedly I know the person doing the job personally but I am already PoC so I can't be treasurer too
20:42 < arthurL> Division of labour and all that
20:43 < ianto> So arthurL has volunteered as a possible person? :)
20:43 < arthurL> Yeah.
20:43 < brobostigon> i will not volunteer
20:44 < ianto> First though we need ot confirm that we think it's a good idea before getting a person to do it ;)
20:44 < brobostigon> its a good idea.
20:44 < ianto> [vote] Have -cym branded merchandise with a treasurer to handle monies?
20:44 < arthurL> We have to prove that it's necessary
20:44 < MootBot> Please vote on: Have -cym branded merchandise with a treasurer to handle monies?.
20:44 < MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot
20:44 < MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-cym
20:44 < ianto> +1
20:44 < MootBot> +1 received from ianto. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1
20:44 < arthurL> +1
20:44 < MootBot> +1 received from arthurL. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2
20:44 < brobostigon> +1
20:44 < MootBot> +1 received from brobostigon. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3
20:44 < TonyP> +1
20:44 < MootBot> +1 received from TonyP. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4
20:44 < kn100> +1
20:44 < MootBot> +1 received from kn100. 5 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 5
20:45 < ianto> [endvote]
20:45 < MootBot> Final result is 5 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 5
20:45 < ianto> Coolio that is decided upon
20:45 < ianto> I'll write something up and do a lp vote later
20:45 < brobostigon> ok,
20:45 < arthurL> Wych
20:45 < ianto> [action] Explain to the rest of the team and setup a vote
20:45 < MootBot> ACTION received: Explain to the rest of the team and setup a vote
20:45 < ianto> [topic] Misc.
20:45 < MootBot> New Topic: Misc.
20:46 < ianto> In other news we have team reports in a new format
20:46 < ianto> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WelshTeam/TeamReports
20:46 < ianto> Report In progress = current month being compile, complete = last full month and past ones are the past
20:47 < kn100> i wonder if heddlu de cymru will change to ubuntu
20:47 < ianto> kn100: They haven't replied in 2months
20:47 < ianto> Gawd people hate me ;)
20:47 < ianto> First off they rejected the mail as a virus since I emailed with a PGP signature
20:47 < ianto> One of the good points of my mail ^
20:47 < arthurL> Hurr, they kind of deserve their computer systems to get raped.
20:47 < kn100> oh man... they rejected a pgp signature
20:48 < ianto> arthurL: +1
20:48 < kn100> hey, heres my entry to the ubucym logo
20:48 < kn100> http://i41.tinypic.com/eqe64p.jpg
20:48 < MootBot> LINK received: http://i41.tinypic.com/eqe64p.jpg
20:48 < arthurL> Sweeet
20:48 < kn100> based it off the original one
20:48 < kn100> added a little informality
20:48 < arthurL> I like the type used for "Cymru".
20:49 < kn100> thanks :)
20:49 < kn100> its Purisa with a little modification
20:49 < arthurL> I have also toyed with the idea of a dragon in the middle of the logo too but I couldn't get it to work. You've pulled it off well.
20:49 < kn100> thanks :)
20:50 < arthurL> Try a daffodil :P
20:50 < kn100> or a LEEK!
20:50 < kn100> theres an idea
20:50 < arthurL> Try both
20:50 < arthurL> I think I'll give it a go too.
20:50 < ianto> Well we have a thread for that ;)
20:51 < ianto> Anything else people have issues with or like to add input to for the team?
20:51 < arthurL> Not me
20:51 < TonyP> me neither
20:51 < brobostigon> nope
20:52 < ianto> Alright then folks, thanks all for attending
20:52 < ianto> Oh another thing
20:52 < ianto> We will have an IRC time set in the forums
20:52 < ianto> for meetings
20:53 < brobostigon> please ellaborate, i am not sure what you mean ianto
20:53 < ianto> We will have a thraed to decide upon a good time for IRC meetings
20:53 * The_Toxic_Mite is back (gone 00:33:51)
20:53 -!- gneel [n=neil@gneel42.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu-cym
20:53 < brobostigon> ianto: ok, good idea,
20:53 < ianto> gneel: Hoi ;)
20:54 < kn100> gneel you missed the fun
20:54 < kn100> and arthurL i just tried both, came out rubbish
20:54 < gneel> Ah yes. I turned up last week thinking that's when the meeting was...
20:54 < kn100> :)
20:55 < ianto> Case 'n point regarding a thread on the topic ^
20:55 < arthurL> kn100; looks like I'll win that competition then ;)
20:55 < kn100> :)
20:55 < gneel> I realised last week that I was 7 days early. Then forgot about tonight...
20:56 < ianto> gneel: Ah don't worry we're about to close unless someone wants to add anything else?
20:56 < ianto> gneel: Logs available shortly
20:56 < brobostigon> ianto: yes mention, meeting times in topic,
20:56 < brobostigon> always,
20:56 < ianto> Alright this is finally the end of the meeting :)
20:57 < ianto> #endmeeting
20:57 < MootBot> Meeting finished at 14:57.
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