This is the '''3rd''' meeting of the '''Welsh LoCo Team''', starting at 19:37 GMT and finishing at 20:57 GMT = Attendance = Please type PRESENT when the meeting starts to indicate who is online and paying attention. '''Active Atendees:''' * ianto * brobostigon * arthurL * TonyP * kn100 * The_Toxic_Mite = Minutes = ## link topics by [#target Topic Name] * A summary of the meeting will be placed here after the meeting. Topics will be linked to the topics in the log. = Guide Lines = ##Updated by AusImage to reflect current usage The meeting moderator will ensure key points are discussed. Key points from the Agenda will be noted by {{{[TOPIC] Agenda item}}}. When ideas are put forward to be considered they should be noted by {{{[IDEA] Idea}}}. The meeting moderator will indicate the final state of each topic by {{{[ACTION] Action being taken}}}. This should signify that the topic is discussed and the meeting is moving forward. 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The chair is ianto. 19:37 < MootB [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] 19:37 < brobostigon> present 19:37 < ianto> [topic] Intro 19:37 < MootBot> New Topic: Intro 19:37 < ianto> Present 19:37 < ianto> Right first off I just made a little agenda summary on the wiki 19:37 < ianto> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WelshTeam/IRC/Agenda 19:37 < ianto> These will be discussion topics for today 19:38 < brobostigon> minute, i will w3m 19:38 < ianto> Right, first off as maany of you do know, we have our forums setup. 19:38 < ianto> What would you like to see in there? 19:38 < ianto> As so far only I and TonyP have posted there 19:38 < kn100> ianto i didnt know they existed 19:38 < TonyP> yep 19:39 < kn100> maybe better advertising 19:39 < ianto> kn100: http://cymru.ubuntuforums.org/ 19:39 < kn100> thanks you 19:39 < ianto> [topic] Forums 19:39 < MootBot> New Topic: Forums 19:39 < ianto> Oops forgetting stuff as the IRC chair d'oh 19:40 < ianto> Regardless, how many of you utilise the ubuntuforums.org forum normally? 19:40 < kn100> a lot of the time, the search feature is handy when looking for how to do stuff 19:41 < brobostigon> well the forums are there, to discuss anything that could be disccused within ubuntu-cymru, ie anything. 19:41 < TonyP> Not much myself, launchpad for me 19:42 < ianto> Right, so for example what would you want to be discussed in the forums? 19:42 < TonyP> I will monitor our forum though 19:42 < brobostigon> ianto: anything, and everything i suspect can be discussed via the forum. 19:42 < kn100> i think the forums would be best discussing what is happening within the group 19:42 < ianto> P.S. get posting in the intro thread! 19:42 < brobostigon> kn100: and technical questions, 19:43 < ianto> [action] Post in the intro thread 19:43 < MootBot> ACTION received: Post in the intro thread 19:43 < ianto> :) 19:43 < ianto> Right so when new stuff comes up and even stuff that gets discussed inthe meetings 19:43 < ianto> We will relay them onto the forums 19:43 < ianto> We have an interest over there now hopefully :) 19:44 < brobostigon> thats good thinking ianto 19:44 < ianto> Right makes sense, we can use the forums with SFD too (later in the meeting) 19:45 < brobostigon> SFD? 19:45 < ianto> Software Freedom Day 19:45 < kn100> i dont know what to put in my intro post :) 19:45 < brobostigon> :), i just changes to w3m ,to check, 19:46 < ianto> kn100: Do that after :) 19:46 < ianto> kn100: I'll talk you through it if needed ;p 19:46 < brobostigon> so we all post an intro about ourselves to the forum,? 19:47 < kn100> kn100 nah i just posted something short 19:47 < ianto> kn100: Cool enough 19:47 < ianto> brobostigon: Later to acknowledge that we know that it exists! 19:48 < ianto> s/it/the\ forums 19:48 < brobostigon> ianto: ok, i understand, 19:48 < ianto> Right any other topics related to the forums that you guys wanna bring up? 19:48 < brobostigon> nope, ianto 19:49 * ianto is rushing btw if you are wondering ;) 19:49 < brobostigon> why rush? 19:49 < ianto> Otherwise we could be here for 3 hours :9 19:49 < kn100> :O 19:50 < ianto> TonyP: Any input? :) 19:50 < TonyP> not really, but I would like to see more intros 19:50 < brobostigon> ok ianto :) 19:51 < ianto> [topic] New Website 19:51 < MootBot> New Topic: New Website 19:51 < ianto> We currently have a server ready for our website 19:51 < ianto> http://98.142.208.108 19:51 < MootBot> LINK received: http://98.142.208.108 19:51 < ianto> It is a VPS however we don't yet have our domain 19:52 < ianto> We will obtain this (hopefully) next week at UDS thanks to Jorge 19:52 < kn100> ianto are you looking to pay for the domain? 19:52 < ianto> kn100: Ubuntu-eu provides it for free 19:52 < TonyP> i see it works:) 19:52 < ianto> So far the VPS has hardly any web content 19:52 < ianto> However what we do have is http://98.142.208.108/planet 19:52 < kn100>

It works!

epic html code 19:52 < ianto> Which will be planet.ubuntu-cym.org 19:53 < ianto> Firstly, what platform would you prefer our site to be? 19:53 < ianto> i.e. Drupal, Django etc 19:53 < ianto> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCreatingWebsite 19:53 < ianto> On that site there are examples of which to use :) 19:54 < ianto> There are awesome Drupal templates available ;) 19:54 < brobostigon> i dont have the design knowledge to suggest anything here. 19:54 < kn100> no comment 19:54 < ianto> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Templates 19:54 < ianto> Examples of some templates available for us to use 19:56 < brobostigon> i personally prefer darker themes, easier on my eyes, like brobostigon.wordpress.com 19:56 < ianto> I am seeking volunteer website maintainers to help adminstrate the site if they wish 19:56 < ianto> And someone to fix brobo & The Planet ;) 19:56 < brobostigon> ianto: i can put my name up for that. i have some stuff to learn. 19:56 < brobostigon> though* 19:57 < kn100> ianto 19:57 < kn100> http://laubuntu.axxium.us/ 19:57 < MootBot> LINK received: http://laubuntu.axxium.us/ 19:57 < kn100> thats xoops 19:57 < kn100> it looks great 19:58 < TonyP> i like that too 19:58 < ianto> We have to find a trade-off between adminstrative difficulty and prettiness too ;) 19:58 < brobostigon> there no point in prettiness if its difficult to look after. 19:58 < kn100> yeah 19:59 < kn100> wiki is awesome, 19:59 < kn100> mediawiki 19:59 < ianto> We utilise moin wiki at wiki.ubuntu.com kn100 19:59 < kn100> yes i see 20:00 -!- The_Toxic_Mite [n=calvinps@host86-148-24-40.range86-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-cym 20:00 < kn100> hi thetoxicmite? 20:00 -!- arthurL [n=arthur@79-67-209-37.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-cym 20:00 < ianto> arthurL: Good to see you 20:00 < The_Toxic_Mite> Hello? 20:00 < brobostigon> ok meeting chaps 20:00 < The_Toxic_Mite> kn100: hi 20:01 < arthurL> Sorry to be tarty to the party. 20:01 < The_Toxic_Mite> I created #ubuntu-sco by accident btw 20:01 < ianto> For those who just joined us, you ought to know thhat we are currently discussing website platforms for ubuntu-cym.org 20:01 < The_Toxic_Mite> lol 20:01 < The_Toxic_Mite> arthurL: it's alright 20:01 < ianto> Paying attention to these templates https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Templates 20:01 < kn100> how easy is xoops to maintain? 20:02 < ianto> kn100: It's alien to me ;) 20:02 < ianto> [idea] Volunteer site maintainers for the website 20:02 < MootBot> IDEA received: Volunteer site maintainers for the website 20:02 < kn100> Id help maintain the site, but i don't know how :) 20:03 < brobostigon> ianto: i put my name forward, also have some parts to learn, on that front, 20:03 < The_Toxic_Mite> kn100: +1 20:03 < The_Toxic_Mite> although I am not welsh, I would like to help maintain it 20:03 < The_Toxic_Mite> :D 20:03 < brobostigon> The_Toxic_Mite: i am not welsh either 20:03 < The_Toxic_Mite> brobostigon: Lol 20:03 < kn100> oh lawd, a person without welsh blood in thier vains in the ubuntu-cym channel? its anarchy i tellz you 20:04 < ianto> kn100: Just watch out for when we get overthrown ;) 20:04 < brobostigon> kn100: my dads family is welsh 20:04 < kn100> oh lawd, its anarchy 20:04 < The_Toxic_Mite> kn100: shut up 20:04 < kn100> :) 20:04 < ianto> Anyway back to the meeting, I enjoy the idea of Drupal as so many other loCos have skinned a template for it already 20:04 < The_Toxic_Mite> xD 20:04 < kn100> Drupal, an example of it? 20:04 < ianto> kn100: www.ubuntu.com ;) 20:04 < arthurL> I also favour Drupal 20:04 < brobostigon> ianto: ok, i dont know enough about drupal to give an opinion, 20:05 < kn100> well ubuntu.com looks awesome, so drupal +1 20:05 < ianto> Alright just a little vote to see who likes/is in favour of Drupal, use +1 for yes, 0 for abstain -1 for no 20:05 < arthurL> +1 20:05 < ianto> [vote] Should drupal be used for the stie? 20:05 < MootBot> Please vote on: Should drupal be used for the stie?. 20:05 < MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot 20:05 < MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-cym 20:05 < ianto> *site 20:05 < ianto> +1 20:05 < TonyP> +1 20:05 < MootBot> +1 received from TonyP. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1 20:05 < MootBot> +1 received from ianto. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2 20:05 < arthurL> +1 20:05 < kn100> +1 20:05 < MootBot> +1 received from arthurL. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3 20:05 < MootBot> +1 received from kn100. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4 20:06 < brobostigon> +1 20:06 < MootBot> +1 received from brobostigon. 5 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 5 20:06 < ianto> Heh unanimous decision (excuse my spelling ;) ) 20:06 < ianto> [endvote] 20:06 < MootBot> Final result is 5 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 5 20:06 < ianto> Right that is sorted, second point across now, design our own theme or use another LoCo's? 20:07 < brobostigon> a drupal theme, 20:07 < kn100> ianto it depends, how easy is it to theme it? 20:07 < ianto> kn100: I'm not a designer, I can't even use GIMP 20:07 < brobostigon> i favour a darker theme, 20:07 < ianto> i.e. dunno ^ 20:07 < TonyP> For speed use another LOCOs and fork it later 20:07 < arthurL> +1 for darker theme 20:07 < The_Toxic_Mite> How about a coffee-flavoured theme? 20:08 < kn100> i can make images, and icons etc etc, but i have no knowledge in theming drupal 20:08 < brobostigon> easier on eyes 20:08 < The_Toxic_Mite> :P 20:08 < ianto> So sticking with the universal Ubuntu theme is bad in your guys opinion? 20:08 < ianto> That nearly all sites use? 20:08 < ianto> exclusions to kubuntu ofc 20:08 < brobostigon> ianto: i dont laways like it, 20:08 < The_Toxic_Mite> [vote] Should the universal Ubuntu theme be used for the site? 20:08 < MootBot> The_Toxic_Mite, Only the meeting chair can do that 20:08 < kn100> universal ubuntu theme in my oppinion is too generic 20:08 < The_Toxic_Mite> ok mootbot 20:09 < ianto> [Vote] Standard Ubuntu Theme/Colours to be used? 20:09 < MootBot> Please vote on: Standard Ubuntu Theme/Colours to be used?. 20:09 < MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot 20:09 < MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-cym 20:09 < ianto> happy The_Toxic_Mite? 20:09 < ianto> +1 20:09 < MootBot> +1 received from ianto. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1 20:09 < brobostigon> -1 20:09 < MootBot> -1 received from brobostigon. 1 for, 1 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 0 20:09 < TonyP> +1 20:09 < MootBot> +1 received from TonyP. 2 for, 1 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1 20:09 < arthurL> +1 20:09 < MootBot> +1 received from arthurL. 3 for, 1 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2 20:09 < The_Toxic_Mite> ianto: yeah :P 20:09 < The_Toxic_Mite> +1 20:09 < MootBot> +1 received from The_Toxic_Mite. 4 for, 1 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3 20:09 < kn100> -1 20:09 < MootBot> -1 received from kn100. 4 for, 2 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2 20:09 < ianto> [endvote] 20:09 < MootBot> Final result is 4 for, 2 against. 0 abstained. Total: 2 20:09 < ianto> Hmm 2:1 outcome 20:10 < The_Toxic_Mite> Ubuntu colours to be used 20:10 < ianto> The two who voted against, why is that? 20:10 < The_Toxic_Mite> ianto: Re-start the poll? 20:10 < kn100> i find the ubuntu colours too generic 20:10 < brobostigon> i prefer darker themes ianto, 20:10 < kn100> i think we need something unique 20:10 < kn100> ubuntus base, but with a more welsh feel 20:11 < brobostigon> kn100: agreed. :) 20:11 < The_Toxic_Mite> kn100: good idea... 20:11 < TonyP> something Welsh? 20:11 < arthurL> We could always tweak it later. 20:11 < ianto> kn100: We can achieve that with a standard Ubuntu theme ;) 20:11 < kn100> revote then? :) 20:11 < ianto> [Vote] Standard Ubuntu Themeset to be used with tweaks? 20:11 < The_Toxic_Mite> Ubuntu logo in the colours of the welsh flag, perhaps? 20:11 < MootBot> Please vote on: Standard Ubuntu Themeset to be used with tweaks?. 20:11 < MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot 20:11 < MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-cym 20:11 < ianto> Happy now revoters? 20:11 < The_Toxic_Mite> +1 20:11 < MootBot> +1 received from The_Toxic_Mite. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1 20:11 < ianto> +1 20:11 < MootBot> +1 received from ianto. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2 20:11 < arthurL> +1 20:11 < MootBot> +1 received from arthurL. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3 20:11 < kn100> +1 20:11 < MootBot> +1 received from kn100. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4 20:11 < TonyP> +1 20:11 < MootBot> +1 received from TonyP. 5 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 5 20:11 < brobostigon> +1 20:11 < MootBot> +1 received from brobostigon. 6 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 6 20:12 < ianto> Alright 6:0 20:12 < ianto> [endvote] 20:12 < MootBot> Final result is 6 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 6 20:12 < kn100> there we go 20:12 < The_Toxic_Mite> :D 20:12 < ianto> [action] Use standard Ubuntu theme for Drupal but edit it here and there for personal effects 20:12 < MootBot> ACTION received: Use standard Ubuntu theme for Drupal but edit it here and there for personal effects 20:12 < ianto> personal/groupanal? :p 20:13 < ianto> Any other input for the website? :) 20:13 < The_Toxic_Mite> ianto: Ubuntu logo in the colours of the welsh flag 20:13 < arthurL> I've done a few 20:14 < ianto> The_Toxic_Mite: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WelshTeam ;) 20:14 < ianto> Our logoo top right 20:14 < arthurL> They're nothing special but I'm hoping to work on them soon 20:14 < The_Toxic_Mite> neat! 20:14 < ianto> arthurL: Can you do a black line around the white circle of friendship block? 20:14 < ianto> To make it true white but stand otu 20:14 < ianto> *out 20:14 < The_Toxic_Mite> damn, I need to find someone that can speak Scots Gaelic 20:14 < arthurL> They'll all need a black line in that case 20:14 < The_Toxic_Mite> for my #ubuntu-sco channel 20:14 < ianto> arthurL: Yeah I know :) 20:15 < arthurL> I can do that 20:15 < ianto> Coolio good to hear 20:15 < kn100> any graphical work, im your man :) 20:15 < arthurL> In fact, I have. I think. 20:15 < ianto> We'll have a logo thread in the forums soon ;) 20:15 < ianto> [action] Logo thread in the forums 20:15 < MootBot> ACTION received: Logo thread in the forums 20:15 < arthurL> http://ubuntuforums.org/group.php?groupid=502: What about this logo? 20:15 < MootBot> LINK received: http://ubuntuforums.org/group.php?groupid=502: What about this logo? 20:15 < arthurL> The one to the right, that is. 20:16 < kn100> http://ubuntuforums.org/image.php?s=1374244ac28f989ba5559bbdc858ba26&groupid=502&dateline=1239819707 im going to fork that 20:16 < MootBot> LINK received: http://ubuntuforums.org/image.php?s=1374244ac28f989ba5559bbdc858ba26&groupid=502&dateline=1239819707 im going to fork that 20:16 < ianto> Pretty sweet for a logo 20:16 < ianto> But not for a banner 20:16 < ianto> Because the text in the middle is complicated to read 20:16 < arthurL> I have done a banner too :P 20:16 < The_Toxic_Mite> :P 20:16 < kn100> what resolution do you want for the banner? im bored 20:17 < ianto> arthurL: P.S. we have forums now if you're not up to date 20:17 < arthurL> http://craiglomax.wordpress.com/2009/04/15/ubuntu-cym-logo-designs/ 20:17 < MootBot> LINK received: http://craiglomax.wordpress.com/2009/04/15/ubuntu-cym-logo-designs/ 20:17 < arthurL> ianto: Oh yeah, noticed the forums 20:18 < ianto> Right logos in new thread when I get around to it (or someone else create the thread) 20:18 < ianto> Any other website input? 20:18 < kn100> we could archive IRC on it like ubuntu-uk do 20:18 < brobostigon> and stats 20:18 < ianto> kn100: I've requested and I am awaiting -eu to do that 20:19 < ianto> Been waiting two or so months now :( 20:19 < kn100> ahh i see# 20:19 < kn100> s/#/ 20:19 < ianto> brobostigon: When the site is finished I'll add that too :) 20:19 < brobostigon> ianto: :) 20:19 < The_Toxic_Mite> BRB got to go in the bath 20:19 * The_Toxic_Mite is away: I'm busy 20:20 < ianto> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1168870 For after the meeting 20:20 < MootBot> LINK received: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1168870 For after the meeting 20:20 < ianto> Anything else to add on the website front before we can move on? :) 20:20 < arthurL> I have nothing to add. 20:20 < brobostigon> same here, nothing 20:21 < TonyP> same here 20:21 < ianto> That's enouggh for a pass then I guess 20:21 < brobostigon> ok 20:21 < ianto> [topic] Membership 20:21 < MootBot> New Topic: Membership 20:21 < ianto> Right here is an idea that some locos use including the Catalan one (Catalann folk are like the Welsh of Spain) 20:22 < ianto> What we can do is offer rewards to those who are active in the -cym community 20:22 < ianto> Posting in the forums, helping users, helping people switch or just help in the mailing lists 20:22 < brobostigon> thats a good idea 20:22 < ianto> What the rewards (so far) will be is an @ubuntu-cym.org address and their blog to be aggregated to our planet 20:23 < arthurL> I can see it now; "You have been attributed 10 leeks" 20:23 < kn100> HAHAHAHA 20:23 < arthurL> Let's use leeks as a currency 20:23 < ianto> arthurL: Good idea ;) 20:23 < ianto> Like the coffee beans 20:23 < kn100> Thats an awesome idea 20:23 < arthurL> =] 20:23 < brobostigon> hehe, :) 20:24 < TonyP> can i convert my launchpad karma toleeks 20:24 < ianto> Of course anyone will be able to be a member and it'll be a lot less informal than official Ubuntu membership 20:24 < ianto> s/less/more 20:24 < ianto> Never use less and informal at the same time when you mean informal to start with! 20:25 < brobostigon> i agree, it a good idea, i like it, 20:25 < arthurL> +1 20:25 < ianto> Enough info to vote on it or you wanna add more input 20:25 < ianto> Or question it? 20:25 < kn100> vote i thinks 20:25 < arthurL> Looks good enough for a vote to me 20:25 < TonyP> ok 20:26 < ianto> [vote] Have our own form of membership? 20:26 < MootBot> Please vote on: Have our own form of membership?. 20:26 < MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot 20:26 < MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-cym 20:26 < ianto> +1 20:26 < MootBot> +1 received from ianto. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1 20:26 < brobostigon> +1 20:26 < MootBot> +1 received from brobostigon. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2 20:26 < kn100> +1 20:26 < MootBot> +1 received from kn100. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3 20:26 < TonyP> +1 20:26 < MootBot> +1 received from TonyP. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4 20:26 < arthurL> +1 20:26 < MootBot> +1 received from arthurL. 5 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 5 20:26 < ianto> We only have 5 since the scotsman went for his bath 20:26 < ianto> [endvote] 20:26 < MootBot> Final result is 5 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 5 20:26 < brobostigon> :) 20:27 < ianto> I'll leave SFD for the forums or discuss it here first? 20:27 < ianto> Software Freedom day 20:27 < kn100> for the forums 20:27 < brobostigon> ianto: what does it involve? 20:28 < ianto> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WelshTeam/SoftwareFreedomDay 20:28 < brobostigon> ok, i will have a look later, when we are done. 20:28 < ianto> brobostigon: It can be anything 20:29 < brobostigon> well i have a new chat engine for my website, ipv6 taylorworld.mooo.com/minichat , which a friend designed for me. 20:29 < ianto> I'll add that to our forums later then rather than spending many hours planning atm :p 20:29 < ianto> Or does anyone want to discuss it now? 20:29 < brobostigon> so i can host a freedom chat, untill we find a permenent server 20:30 < arthurL> I think it's more suited to the forums 20:30 < brobostigon> ok, 20:30 < ianto> Or even better a mailing list eh? 20:30 < ianto> [topic] List & Site 20:30 < MootBot> New Topic: List & Site 20:30 < brobostigon> mailing list, :) 20:30 < arthurL> Either or 20:30 < ianto> Might as well add this taht jcastro & another friend will be setting it all up at UDS 20:30 < brobostigon> do we have a mailing list? 20:30 < ianto> In a week or two we will have confirmation of it 20:31 < TonyP> I like mailing lists myself 20:31 < brobostigon> ok, :) 20:31 < ianto> It deserved its own litttle topic even if it was just IT IS FINALLY BEINGDONE post ;) 20:31 < brobostigon> agreed ianto 20:31 < ianto> [Topic] Merchandise 20:31 < MootBot> New Topic: Merchandise 20:32 < ianto> Right -cym lp members will know that I've been giving out freebies lately 20:32 < ianto> Such as case stickers, paper stickers and discs 20:32 < ianto> Given out near 100 discs and 40 or so stickers 20:32 < ianto> case stickers ^ 20:32 < brobostigon> wow, :) 20:33 < arthurL> Golly, didn't think you'd give that much out 20:33 < ianto> But I've been emailing trademarks@canonical.com and they have permitted us to have -cym exclusive merchandise too 20:33 < TonyP> great 20:33 < ianto> I've been speaking to a local t-shirt manufacturer right here in this village and we can get t-shirts for £6 20:33 < ianto> And special mp3 hoodies too ;) 20:33 < brobostigon> ianto: thats good news, i rememer you telling me about that afew weeks ago, 20:33 < ianto> Unsure of the hoody cost atm 20:33 < arthurL> Wych! 20:34 < brobostigon> ubuntu-cym collar pins? 20:34 < ianto> In reality the cost of the T-shirt is £5 but as long as you guys agree, we can keep a log of purchases (exlcuding names and addresses) and use that extra £1 to -cym related stuff 20:34 < ianto> and keeping a log of purchases too 20:34 < ianto> i.e. VPS bills 20:35 < brobostigon> ianto: like a donation? 20:35 < ianto> Or renting a place for vfenues 20:35 < arthurL> Me likes 20:35 < ianto> brobostigon: Donation where you recieve a product too :) 20:35 < arthurL> It's more like a tax 20:35 < brobostigon> ianto: yep, :) 20:35 < ianto> Yeah UAT 20:35 < ianto> Ubuntu Added Tax 20:35 < arthurL> Lawld 20:35 < brobostigon> ucat, ubuntu-cym added tax 20:36 < ianto> Of course some people may see this as a bad move 20:36 < ianto> So I'd like to see what you guys think ;-) 20:36 < brobostigon> ianto: agreed, some might, 20:36 < brobostigon> i think it is a good idea, 20:36 < arthurL> ++; 20:37 * brobostigon bangs his head on the table, at seeing what his mum just put on the tv, :( 20:37 < ianto> Of course we can't all do this with one man, too much chance of corruption ;). We will need a treasurer too 20:37 < ianto> Or secretary 20:37 < brobostigon> thats definatly a good idea. 20:38 < arthurL> Agreed. 20:38 < brobostigon> and freely published 20:38 < arthurL> It *must* be someone who we can trust 20:38 < arthurL> and it *must* be transparent 20:38 < ianto> It *can't* be me ;) 20:38 < kn100> i will be the treasurer :p 20:38 < brobostigon> that makes sense ianto 20:38 < kn100> ;) 20:38 < ianto> kn100: Heh slow down you've only been here two days ;) 20:39 < arthurL> We could do a vote for the treasurer like we did for the POC 20:39 < kn100> i dont want to be the treasurer mate, i was being sarcastic 20:39 < TonyP> good idea 20:39 < ianto> Yeah that's a possibility but it has to be someone _reliable_ 20:39 < arthurL> And good with money 20:40 < brobostigon> i will not put myself down for that job. 20:40 < ianto> That rules out half of the team then ;) 20:40 -!- Irssi: #ubuntu-cym: Total of 17 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 17 normal] 20:41 < ianto> Is there anyone who'd like to volunteer however? 20:41 < arthurL> Yo. 20:41 < kn100> ianto i think you are best for the job 20:41 < ianto> kn100: Can't ;) 20:42 < kn100> cant? 20:42 < kn100> or wont 20:42 < kn100> :) 20:42 < ianto> Admittedly I know the person doing the job personally but I am already PoC so I can't be treasurer too 20:42 < arthurL> Division of labour and all that 20:43 < ianto> So arthurL has volunteered as a possible person? :) 20:43 < arthurL> Yeah. 20:43 < brobostigon> i will not volunteer 20:44 < ianto> First though we need ot confirm that we think it's a good idea before getting a person to do it ;) 20:44 < brobostigon> its a good idea. 20:44 < ianto> [vote] Have -cym branded merchandise with a treasurer to handle monies? 20:44 < arthurL> We have to prove that it's necessary 20:44 < MootBot> Please vote on: Have -cym branded merchandise with a treasurer to handle monies?. 20:44 < MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot 20:44 < MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-cym 20:44 < ianto> +1 20:44 < MootBot> +1 received from ianto. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1 20:44 < arthurL> +1 20:44 < MootBot> +1 received from arthurL. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2 20:44 < brobostigon> +1 20:44 < MootBot> +1 received from brobostigon. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3 20:44 < TonyP> +1 20:44 < MootBot> +1 received from TonyP. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4 20:44 < kn100> +1 20:44 < MootBot> +1 received from kn100. 5 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 5 20:45 < ianto> [endvote] 20:45 < MootBot> Final result is 5 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 5 20:45 < ianto> Coolio that is decided upon 20:45 < ianto> I'll write something up and do a lp vote later 20:45 < brobostigon> ok, 20:45 < arthurL> Wych 20:45 < ianto> [action] Explain to the rest of the team and setup a vote 20:45 < MootBot> ACTION received: Explain to the rest of the team and setup a vote 20:45 < ianto> [topic] Misc. 20:45 < MootBot> New Topic: Misc. 20:46 < ianto> In other news we have team reports in a new format 20:46 < ianto> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WelshTeam/TeamReports 20:46 < ianto> Report In progress = current month being compile, complete = last full month and past ones are the past 20:47 < kn100> i wonder if heddlu de cymru will change to ubuntu 20:47 < ianto> kn100: They haven't replied in 2months 20:47 < ianto> Gawd people hate me ;) 20:47 < ianto> First off they rejected the mail as a virus since I emailed with a PGP signature 20:47 < ianto> One of the good points of my mail ^ 20:47 < arthurL> Hurr, they kind of deserve their computer systems to get raped. 20:47 < kn100> oh man... they rejected a pgp signature 20:48 < ianto> arthurL: +1 20:48 < kn100> hey, heres my entry to the ubucym logo 20:48 < kn100> http://i41.tinypic.com/eqe64p.jpg 20:48 < MootBot> LINK received: http://i41.tinypic.com/eqe64p.jpg 20:48 < arthurL> Sweeet 20:48 < kn100> based it off the original one 20:48 < kn100> added a little informality 20:48 < arthurL> I like the type used for "Cymru". 20:49 < kn100> thanks :) 20:49 < kn100> its Purisa with a little modification 20:49 < arthurL> I have also toyed with the idea of a dragon in the middle of the logo too but I couldn't get it to work. You've pulled it off well. 20:49 < kn100> thanks :) 20:50 < arthurL> Try a daffodil :P 20:50 < kn100> or a LEEK! 20:50 < kn100> theres an idea 20:50 < arthurL> Try both 20:50 < arthurL> I think I'll give it a go too. 20:50 < ianto> Well we have a thread for that ;) 20:51 < ianto> Anything else people have issues with or like to add input to for the team? 20:51 < arthurL> Not me 20:51 < TonyP> me neither 20:51 < brobostigon> nope 20:52 < ianto> Alright then folks, thanks all for attending 20:52 < ianto> Oh another thing 20:52 < ianto> We will have an IRC time set in the forums 20:52 < ianto> for meetings 20:53 < brobostigon> please ellaborate, i am not sure what you mean ianto 20:53 < ianto> We will have a thraed to decide upon a good time for IRC meetings 20:53 * The_Toxic_Mite is back (gone 00:33:51) 20:53 -!- gneel [n=neil@gneel42.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu-cym 20:53 < brobostigon> ianto: ok, good idea, 20:53 < ianto> gneel: Hoi ;) 20:54 < kn100> gneel you missed the fun 20:54 < kn100> and arthurL i just tried both, came out rubbish 20:54 < gneel> Ah yes. I turned up last week thinking that's when the meeting was... 20:54 < kn100> :) 20:55 < ianto> Case 'n point regarding a thread on the topic ^ 20:55 < arthurL> kn100; looks like I'll win that competition then ;) 20:55 < kn100> :) 20:55 < gneel> I realised last week that I was 7 days early. Then forgot about tonight... 20:56 < ianto> gneel: Ah don't worry we're about to close unless someone wants to add anything else? 20:56 < ianto> gneel: Logs available shortly 20:56 < brobostigon> ianto: yes mention, meeting times in topic, 20:56 < brobostigon> always, 20:56 < ianto> Alright this is finally the end of the meeting :) 20:57 < ianto> #endmeeting 20:57 < MootBot> Meeting finished at 14:57. }}} ---- CategoryScribesTeam CategoryTemplate