1 19:37 < MootBot> Meeting started at 13:37. The chair is ianto.
   2 19:37 < MootB [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
   3 19:37 < brobostigon> present
   4 19:37 < ianto> [topic] Intro
   5 19:37 < MootBot> New Topic:  Intro
   6 19:37 < ianto> Present
   7 19:37 < ianto> Right first off I just made a little agenda summary on the wiki
   8 19:37 < ianto> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WelshTeam/IRC/Agenda
   9 19:37 < ianto> These will be discussion topics for today
  10 19:38 < brobostigon> minute, i will w3m
  11 19:38 < ianto> Right, first off as maany of you do know, we have our forums setup.
  12 19:38 < ianto> What would you like to see in there?
  13 19:38 < ianto> As so far only I and TonyP have posted there
  14 19:38 < kn100> ianto i didnt know they existed
  15 19:38 < TonyP> yep
  16 19:39 < kn100> maybe better advertising
  17 19:39 < ianto> kn100: http://cymru.ubuntuforums.org/
  18 19:39 < kn100> thanks you
  19 19:39 < ianto> [topic] Forums
  20 19:39 < MootBot> New Topic:  Forums
  21 19:39 < ianto> Oops forgetting stuff as the IRC chair d'oh
  22 19:40 < ianto> Regardless, how many of you utilise the ubuntuforums.org forum normally?
  23 19:40 < kn100> a lot of the time, the search feature is handy when looking for how to do stuff
  24 19:41 < brobostigon> well the forums are there, to discuss anything that could be disccused within ubuntu-cymru, ie anything.
  25 19:41 < TonyP> Not much myself, launchpad for me
  26 19:42 < ianto> Right, so for example what would you want to be discussed in the forums?
  27 19:42 < TonyP> I will monitor our forum though
  28 19:42 < brobostigon> ianto: anything, and everything i suspect can be discussed via the forum.
  29 19:42 < kn100> i think the forums would be best discussing what is happening within the group
  30 19:42 < ianto> P.S. get posting in the intro thread!
  31 19:42 < brobostigon> kn100: and technical questions,
  32 19:43 < ianto> [action] Post in the intro thread
  33 19:43 < MootBot> ACTION received:  Post in the intro thread
  34 19:43 < ianto> :)
  35 19:43 < ianto> Right so when new stuff comes up and even stuff that gets discussed inthe meetings
  36 19:43 < ianto> We  will relay them onto the forums
  37 19:43 < ianto> We have an interest over there now hopefully :)
  38 19:44 < brobostigon> thats good thinking ianto
  39 19:44 < ianto> Right makes sense, we can use the forums with SFD too (later in the meeting)
  40 19:45 < brobostigon> SFD?
  41 19:45 < ianto> Software Freedom Day
  42 19:45 < kn100> i dont know what to put in my intro post :)
  43 19:45 < brobostigon> :), i just changes to w3m ,to check,
  44 19:46 < ianto> kn100: Do that after :)
  45 19:46 < ianto> kn100: I'll talk you through it if needed ;p
  46 19:46 < brobostigon> so we all post an intro about ourselves to the forum,?
  47 19:47 < kn100> kn100 nah i just posted something short
  48 19:47 < ianto> kn100: Cool enough
  49 19:47 < ianto> brobostigon: Later to acknowledge that we know that it exists!
  50 19:48 < ianto> s/it/the\ forums
  51 19:48 < brobostigon> ianto: ok, i understand,
  52 19:48 < ianto> Right any other topics related to the forums that you guys wanna bring up?
  53 19:48 < brobostigon> nope, ianto
  54 19:49  * ianto is rushing btw if you are wondering ;)
  55 19:49 < brobostigon> why rush?
  56 19:49 < ianto> Otherwise we could be here for 3 hours :9
  57 19:49 < kn100> :O
  58 19:50 < ianto> TonyP: Any input? :)
  59 19:50 < TonyP> not really, but I would like to see more intros
  60 19:50 < brobostigon> ok ianto :)
  61 19:51 < ianto> [topic] New Website
  62 19:51 < MootBot> New Topic:  New Website
  63 19:51 < ianto> We currently have a server ready for our website
  64 19:51 < ianto> http://98.142.208.108
  65 19:51 < MootBot> LINK received:  http://98.142.208.108
  66 19:51 < ianto> It is a VPS however we don't yet have our domain
  67 19:52 < ianto> We will obtain this (hopefully) next week at UDS thanks to Jorge 
  68 19:52 < kn100> ianto are you looking to pay for the domain?
  69 19:52 < ianto> kn100: Ubuntu-eu provides it for free
  70 19:52 < TonyP> i see it works:)
  71 19:52 < ianto> So far the VPS has hardly any web content
  72 19:52 < ianto> However what we do have is http://98.142.208.108/planet
  73 19:52 < kn100> <html><body><h1>It works!</h1></body></html> epic html code
  74 19:52 < ianto> Which will be planet.ubuntu-cym.org
  75 19:53 < ianto> Firstly, what platform would you prefer our site to be?
  76 19:53 < ianto> i.e. Drupal, Django etc
  77 19:53 < ianto> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCreatingWebsite
  78 19:53 < ianto> On that site there are examples of which to use :)
  79 19:54 < ianto> There are awesome Drupal templates available ;)
  80 19:54 < brobostigon> i dont have the design knowledge to suggest anything here.
  81 19:54 < kn100> no comment
  82 19:54 < ianto> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Templates
  83 19:54 < ianto> Examples of some templates available for us to use
  84 19:56 < brobostigon> i personally prefer darker themes, easier on my eyes, like brobostigon.wordpress.com
  85 19:56 < ianto> I am seeking volunteer website maintainers to help adminstrate the site if they wish
  86 19:56 < ianto> And someone to fix brobo & The Planet ;)
  87 19:56 < brobostigon> ianto: i can put my name up for that. i have some stuff to learn.
  88 19:56 < brobostigon> though*
  89 19:57 < kn100> ianto
  90 19:57 < kn100> http://laubuntu.axxium.us/
  91 19:57 < MootBot> LINK received:  http://laubuntu.axxium.us/
  92 19:57 < kn100> thats xoops
  93 19:57 < kn100> it looks great
  94 19:58 < TonyP> i like that too
  95 19:58 < ianto> We have to find a trade-off between adminstrative difficulty and prettiness too ;)
  96 19:58 < brobostigon> there no point in prettiness if its difficult to look after.
  97 19:58 < kn100> yeah
  98 19:59 < kn100> wiki is awesome,
  99 19:59 < kn100> mediawiki
 100 19:59 < ianto> We utilise moin wiki at wiki.ubuntu.com kn100 
 101 19:59 < kn100> yes i see
 102 20:00 -!- The_Toxic_Mite [n=calvinps@host86-148-24-40.range86-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-cym
 103 20:00 < kn100> hi thetoxicmite?
 104 20:00 -!- arthurL [n=arthur@79-67-209-37.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-cym
 105 20:00 < ianto> arthurL: Good to see you
 106 20:00 < The_Toxic_Mite> Hello?
 107 20:00 < brobostigon> ok meeting chaps
 108 20:00 < The_Toxic_Mite> kn100: hi
 109 20:01 < arthurL> Sorry to be tarty to the party.
 110 20:01 < The_Toxic_Mite> I created #ubuntu-sco by accident btw
 111 20:01 < ianto> For those who just joined us, you ought to know thhat we are currently discussing  website platforms for ubuntu-cym.org
 112 20:01 < The_Toxic_Mite> lol
 113 20:01 < The_Toxic_Mite> arthurL: it's alright
 114 20:01 < ianto> Paying attention to these templates https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Templates
 115 20:01 < kn100> how easy is xoops to maintain?
 116 20:02 < ianto> kn100: It's alien to me ;)
 117 20:02 < ianto> [idea] Volunteer site maintainers for the website
 118 20:02 < MootBot> IDEA received:  Volunteer site maintainers for the website
 119 20:02 < kn100> Id help maintain the site, but i don't know how :)
 120 20:03 < brobostigon> ianto: i put my name forward, also have some parts to learn, on that front,
 121 20:03 < The_Toxic_Mite> kn100: +1
 122 20:03 < The_Toxic_Mite> although I am not welsh, I would like to help maintain it
 123 20:03 < The_Toxic_Mite> :D
 124 20:03 < brobostigon> The_Toxic_Mite: i am not welsh either
 125 20:03 < The_Toxic_Mite> brobostigon: Lol
 126 20:03 < kn100> oh lawd, a person without welsh blood in thier vains in the ubuntu-cym channel? its anarchy i tellz you
 127 20:04 < ianto> kn100: Just watch out for when we get overthrown ;)
 128 20:04 < brobostigon> kn100: my dads family is welsh
 129 20:04 < kn100> oh lawd, its anarchy
 130 20:04 < The_Toxic_Mite> kn100: shut up
 131 20:04 < kn100> :)
 132 20:04 < ianto> Anyway back to the meeting, I enjoy the idea of Drupal as so many other loCos have skinned a template for it already
 133 20:04 < The_Toxic_Mite> xD
 134 20:04 < kn100> Drupal, an example of it?
 135 20:04 < ianto> kn100: www.ubuntu.com ;)
 136 20:04 < arthurL> I also favour Drupal
 137 20:04 < brobostigon> ianto: ok, i dont know enough about drupal to give an opinion,
 138 20:05 < kn100> well ubuntu.com looks awesome, so drupal +1
 139 20:05 < ianto> Alright just a little vote to see who likes/is in favour of Drupal, use +1 for yes, 0 for abstain -1 for no
 140 20:05 < arthurL> +1
 141 20:05 < ianto> [vote] Should drupal be used for the stie?
 142 20:05 < MootBot> Please vote on:  Should drupal be used for the stie?.
 143 20:05 < MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0  to MootBot
 144 20:05 < MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-cym
 145 20:05 < ianto> *site
 146 20:05 < ianto> +1
 147 20:05 < TonyP> +1
 148 20:05 < MootBot> +1 received from TonyP. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1
 149 20:05 < MootBot> +1 received from ianto. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2
 150 20:05 < arthurL> +1
 151 20:05 < kn100> +1
 152 20:05 < MootBot> +1 received from arthurL. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3
 153 20:05 < MootBot> +1 received from kn100. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4
 154 20:06 < brobostigon> +1
 155 20:06 < MootBot> +1 received from brobostigon. 5 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 5
 156 20:06 < ianto> Heh unanimous decision (excuse my spelling ;) )
 157 20:06 < ianto> [endvote]
 158 20:06 < MootBot> Final result is 5 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 5
 159 20:06 < ianto> Right that is sorted, second point across now, design our own theme or use another LoCo's?
 160 20:07 < brobostigon> a drupal theme,
 161 20:07 < kn100> ianto it depends, how easy is it to theme it?
 162 20:07 < ianto> kn100: I'm not a designer, I can't even use GIMP
 163 20:07 < brobostigon> i favour a darker theme,
 164 20:07 < ianto> i.e. dunno ^
 165 20:07 < TonyP> For speed use another LOCOs and fork it later
 166 20:07 < arthurL> +1 for darker theme
 167 20:07 < The_Toxic_Mite> How about a coffee-flavoured theme?
 168 20:08 < kn100> i can make images, and icons etc etc, but i have no knowledge in theming drupal
 169 20:08 < brobostigon> easier on eyes
 170 20:08 < The_Toxic_Mite> :P
 171 20:08 < ianto> So sticking with the universal Ubuntu theme is bad in your guys opinion?
 172 20:08 < ianto> That nearly all sites use?
 173 20:08 < ianto> exclusions to kubuntu ofc
 174 20:08 < brobostigon> ianto: i dont laways like it,
 175 20:08 < The_Toxic_Mite> [vote] Should the universal Ubuntu theme be used for the site?
 176 20:08 < MootBot> The_Toxic_Mite, Only the meeting chair can do that
 177 20:08 < kn100> universal ubuntu theme in my oppinion is too generic
 178 20:08 < The_Toxic_Mite> ok mootbot
 179 20:09 < ianto> [Vote] Standard Ubuntu Theme/Colours to be used?
 180 20:09 < MootBot> Please vote on:  Standard Ubuntu Theme/Colours to be used?.
 181 20:09 < MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0  to MootBot
 182 20:09 < MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-cym
 183 20:09 < ianto> happy The_Toxic_Mite?
 184 20:09 < ianto> +1
 185 20:09 < MootBot> +1 received from ianto. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1
 186 20:09 < brobostigon> -1
 187 20:09 < MootBot> -1 received from brobostigon. 1 for, 1 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 0
 188 20:09 < TonyP> +1
 189 20:09 < MootBot> +1 received from TonyP. 2 for, 1 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1
 190 20:09 < arthurL> +1
 191 20:09 < MootBot> +1 received from arthurL. 3 for, 1 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2
 192 20:09 < The_Toxic_Mite> ianto: yeah :P
 193 20:09 < The_Toxic_Mite> +1
 194 20:09 < MootBot> +1 received from The_Toxic_Mite. 4 for, 1 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3
 195 20:09 < kn100> -1
 196 20:09 < MootBot> -1 received from kn100. 4 for, 2 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2
 197 20:09 < ianto> [endvote]
 198 20:09 < MootBot> Final result is 4 for, 2 against. 0 abstained. Total: 2
 199 20:09 < ianto> Hmm 2:1 outcome
 200 20:10 < The_Toxic_Mite> Ubuntu colours to be used
 201 20:10 < ianto> The two who voted against, why is that?
 202 20:10 < The_Toxic_Mite> ianto: Re-start the poll?
 203 20:10 < kn100> i find the ubuntu colours too generic
 204 20:10 < brobostigon> i prefer darker themes ianto,
 205 20:10 < kn100> i think we need something unique
 206 20:10 < kn100> ubuntus base, but with a more welsh feel
 207 20:11 < brobostigon> kn100: agreed. :)
 208 20:11 < The_Toxic_Mite> kn100: good idea...
 209 20:11 < TonyP> something Welsh?
 210 20:11 < arthurL> We could always tweak it later.
 211 20:11 < ianto> kn100: We can achieve that with a standard Ubuntu theme ;)
 212 20:11 < kn100> revote then? :)
 213 20:11 < ianto> [Vote] Standard Ubuntu Themeset to be used with tweaks?
 214 20:11 < The_Toxic_Mite> Ubuntu logo in the colours of the welsh flag, perhaps?
 215 20:11 < MootBot> Please vote on:  Standard Ubuntu Themeset to be used with tweaks?.
 216 20:11 < MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0  to MootBot
 217 20:11 < MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-cym
 218 20:11 < ianto> Happy now revoters?
 219 20:11 < The_Toxic_Mite> +1
 220 20:11 < MootBot> +1 received from The_Toxic_Mite. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1
 221 20:11 < ianto> +1
 222 20:11 < MootBot> +1 received from ianto. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2
 223 20:11 < arthurL> +1
 224 20:11 < MootBot> +1 received from arthurL. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3
 225 20:11 < kn100> +1
 226 20:11 < MootBot> +1 received from kn100. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4
 227 20:11 < TonyP> +1
 228 20:11 < MootBot> +1 received from TonyP. 5 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 5
 229 20:11 < brobostigon> +1
 230 20:11 < MootBot> +1 received from brobostigon. 6 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 6
 231 20:12 < ianto> Alright 6:0
 232 20:12 < ianto> [endvote]
 233 20:12 < MootBot> Final result is 6 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 6
 234 20:12 < kn100> there we go
 235 20:12 < The_Toxic_Mite> :D
 236 20:12 < ianto> [action] Use standard Ubuntu theme for Drupal but  edit it here and there for personal effects
 237 20:12 < MootBot> ACTION received:  Use standard Ubuntu theme for Drupal but  edit it here and there for personal effects
 238 20:12 < ianto> personal/groupanal? :p
 239 20:13 < ianto> Any other input for the website? :)
 240 20:13 < The_Toxic_Mite> ianto: Ubuntu logo in the colours of the welsh flag
 241 20:13 < arthurL> I've done a few
 242 20:14 < ianto> The_Toxic_Mite: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WelshTeam ;)
 243 20:14 < ianto> Our logoo top right
 244 20:14 < arthurL> They're nothing special but I'm hoping to work on them soon
 245 20:14 < The_Toxic_Mite> neat!
 246 20:14 < ianto> arthurL: Can you do a black line around the white circle of friendship block?
 247 20:14 < ianto> To make it true white but stand otu
 248 20:14 < ianto> *out
 249 20:14 < The_Toxic_Mite> damn, I need to find someone that can speak Scots Gaelic
 250 20:14 < arthurL> They'll all need a black line in that case
 251 20:14 < The_Toxic_Mite> for my #ubuntu-sco channel
 252 20:14 < ianto> arthurL: Yeah I know :)
 253 20:15 < arthurL> I can do that
 254 20:15 < ianto> Coolio good to hear
 255 20:15 < kn100> any graphical work, im your man :)
 256 20:15 < arthurL> In fact, I have. I think.
 257 20:15 < ianto> We'll have a logo thread in the forums soon ;)
 258 20:15 < ianto> [action] Logo thread in the forums
 259 20:15 < MootBot> ACTION received:  Logo thread in the forums
 260 20:15 < arthurL> http://ubuntuforums.org/group.php?groupid=502: What about this logo?
 261 20:15 < MootBot> LINK received:  http://ubuntuforums.org/group.php?groupid=502: What about this logo?
 262 20:15 < arthurL> The one to the right, that is.
 263 20:16 < kn100> http://ubuntuforums.org/image.php?s=1374244ac28f989ba5559bbdc858ba26&groupid=502&dateline=1239819707 im going to fork that
 264 20:16 < MootBot> LINK received:  http://ubuntuforums.org/image.php?s=1374244ac28f989ba5559bbdc858ba26&groupid=502&dateline=1239819707 im going to fork that
 265 20:16 < ianto> Pretty sweet for a logo
 266 20:16 < ianto> But not for a banner
 267 20:16 < ianto> Because the text in the middle is complicated to read
 268 20:16 < arthurL> I have done a banner too :P
 269 20:16 < The_Toxic_Mite> :P
 270 20:16 < kn100> what resolution do you want for the banner? im bored
 271 20:17 < ianto> arthurL: P.S. we have forums now if you're not up to date
 272 20:17 < arthurL> http://craiglomax.wordpress.com/2009/04/15/ubuntu-cym-logo-designs/
 273 20:17 < MootBot> LINK received:  http://craiglomax.wordpress.com/2009/04/15/ubuntu-cym-logo-designs/
 274 20:17 < arthurL> ianto: Oh yeah, noticed the forums
 275 20:18 < ianto> Right logos in new thread when I get around to it (or someone else create the thread)
 276 20:18 < ianto> Any other website input?
 277 20:18 < kn100> we could archive IRC on it like ubuntu-uk do
 278 20:18 < brobostigon> and stats
 279 20:18 < ianto> kn100: I've requested and I am awaiting -eu to do that
 280 20:19 < ianto> Been waiting two or so months now :(
 281 20:19 < kn100> ahh i see#
 282 20:19 < kn100> s/#/
 283 20:19 < ianto> brobostigon: When the site is finished I'll add that too :)
 284 20:19 < brobostigon> ianto: :)
 285 20:19 < The_Toxic_Mite> BRB got to go in the bath
 286 20:19  * The_Toxic_Mite is away: I'm busy
 287 20:20 < ianto> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1168870 For after the meeting
 288 20:20 < MootBot> LINK received:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1168870 For after the meeting
 289 20:20 < ianto> Anything else to add on the website front before we can move on? :)
 290 20:20 < arthurL> I have nothing to add.
 291 20:20 < brobostigon> same here, nothing
 292 20:21 < TonyP> same here
 293 20:21 < ianto> That's enouggh for a pass then I guess
 294 20:21 < brobostigon> ok
 295 20:21 < ianto> [topic] Membership
 296 20:21 < MootBot> New Topic:  Membership
 297 20:21 < ianto> Right here is an idea that some locos use including the Catalan one (Catalann folk are like the Welsh of Spain)
 298 20:22 < ianto> What we can do is offer rewards to those who are active in the -cym community
 299 20:22 < ianto> Posting in the forums, helping users, helping people switch or just help in the mailing lists
 300 20:22 < brobostigon> thats a good idea
 301 20:22 < ianto> What the rewards (so far) will be is an @ubuntu-cym.org address and their blog to be aggregated to our planet
 302 20:23 < arthurL> I can see it now; "You have been attributed 10 leeks"
 303 20:23 < kn100> HAHAHAHA
 304 20:23 < arthurL> Let's use leeks as a currency
 305 20:23 < ianto> arthurL: Good idea ;)
 306 20:23 < ianto> Like the coffee beans
 307 20:23 < kn100> Thats an awesome idea
 308 20:23 < arthurL> =]
 309 20:23 < brobostigon> hehe, :)
 310 20:24 < TonyP> can i convert my launchpad karma toleeks
 311 20:24 < ianto> Of course anyone will be able to be a member and it'll be a lot less informal than official Ubuntu membership
 312 20:24 < ianto> s/less/more
 313 20:24 < ianto> Never use less and informal at the same time when you mean informal to start with!
 314 20:25 < brobostigon> i agree, it a good idea, i like it,
 315 20:25 < arthurL> +1
 316 20:25 < ianto> Enough info to vote on it or you wanna add more input
 317 20:25 < ianto> Or question it?
 318 20:25 < kn100> vote i thinks
 319 20:25 < arthurL> Looks good enough for a vote to me
 320 20:25 < TonyP> ok
 321 20:26 < ianto> [vote] Have our own form of membership?
 322 20:26 < MootBot> Please vote on:  Have our own form of membership?.
 323 20:26 < MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0  to MootBot
 324 20:26 < MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-cym
 325 20:26 < ianto> +1
 326 20:26 < MootBot> +1 received from ianto. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1
 327 20:26 < brobostigon> +1
 328 20:26 < MootBot> +1 received from brobostigon. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2
 329 20:26 < kn100> +1
 330 20:26 < MootBot> +1 received from kn100. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3
 331 20:26 < TonyP> +1
 332 20:26 < MootBot> +1 received from TonyP. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4
 333 20:26 < arthurL> +1
 334 20:26 < MootBot> +1 received from arthurL. 5 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 5
 335 20:26 < ianto> We only have 5 since the scotsman went for his bath
 336 20:26 < ianto> [endvote]
 337 20:26 < MootBot> Final result is 5 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 5
 338 20:26 < brobostigon> :)
 339 20:27 < ianto> I'll leave SFD for the forums or discuss it here first?
 340 20:27 < ianto> Software Freedom day
 341 20:27 < kn100> for the forums
 342 20:27 < brobostigon> ianto: what does it involve?
 343 20:28 < ianto> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WelshTeam/SoftwareFreedomDay
 344 20:28 < brobostigon> ok, i will have a look later, when we are done.
 345 20:28 < ianto> brobostigon: It can be anything
 346 20:29 < brobostigon> well i have a new chat engine for my website, ipv6 taylorworld.mooo.com/minichat , which a friend designed for me.
 347 20:29 < ianto> I'll add that to our forums later then rather than spending many hours planning atm :p
 348 20:29 < ianto> Or does anyone want to discuss it now?
 349 20:29 < brobostigon> so i can host a freedom chat, untill we find a permenent server
 350 20:30 < arthurL> I think it's more suited to the forums
 351 20:30 < brobostigon> ok,
 352 20:30 < ianto> Or even better a mailing list eh?
 353 20:30 < ianto> [topic] List & Site
 354 20:30 < MootBot> New Topic:  List & Site
 355 20:30 < brobostigon> mailing list, :)
 356 20:30 < arthurL> Either or
 357 20:30 < ianto> Might as well add this taht jcastro & another friend will be setting it all up at UDS
 358 20:30 < brobostigon> do we have a mailing list?
 359 20:30 < ianto> In a week or two we will have confirmation of it
 360 20:31 < TonyP> I like mailing lists myself
 361 20:31 < brobostigon> ok, :)
 362 20:31 < ianto> It deserved its own litttle topic even if it was just IT IS FINALLY BEINGDONE post ;)
 363 20:31 < brobostigon> agreed ianto
 364 20:31 < ianto> [Topic] Merchandise
 365 20:31 < MootBot> New Topic:  Merchandise
 366 20:32 < ianto> Right -cym lp members will know that I've been giving out freebies lately
 367 20:32 < ianto> Such as case stickers, paper stickers and discs
 368 20:32 < ianto> Given out near 100 discs and 40 or so stickers
 369 20:32 < ianto> case stickers ^
 370 20:32 < brobostigon> wow, :)
 371 20:33 < arthurL> Golly, didn't think you'd give that much out
 372 20:33 < ianto> But I've been emailing trademarks@canonical.com and they have permitted us to have -cym exclusive merchandise too
 373 20:33 < TonyP> great
 374 20:33 < ianto> I've been speaking to a local t-shirt manufacturer right here in this village and we can get t-shirts for £6
 375 20:33 < ianto> And special mp3 hoodies too ;)
 376 20:33 < brobostigon> ianto: thats good news, i rememer you telling me about that afew weeks ago,
 377 20:33 < ianto> Unsure of the hoody cost atm
 378 20:33 < arthurL> Wych!
 379 20:34 < brobostigon> ubuntu-cym collar pins?
 380 20:34 < ianto> In reality the cost of the T-shirt is £5 but as long as you guys agree, we can keep a log of purchases (exlcuding names and addresses) and use that extra £1 to -cym related stuff
 381 20:34 < ianto> and keeping a log of purchases too
 382 20:34 < ianto> i.e. VPS bills
 383 20:35 < brobostigon> ianto: like a donation?
 384 20:35 < ianto> Or renting a place for vfenues
 385 20:35 < arthurL> Me likes
 386 20:35 < ianto> brobostigon: Donation where you recieve a product too :)
 387 20:35 < arthurL> It's more like a tax
 388 20:35 < brobostigon> ianto: yep, :)
 389 20:35 < ianto> Yeah UAT
 390 20:35 < ianto> Ubuntu Added Tax
 391 20:35 < arthurL> Lawld
 392 20:35 < brobostigon> ucat, ubuntu-cym added tax
 393 20:36 < ianto> Of course some people may see this as a bad move
 394 20:36 < ianto> So I'd like to see what you guys think ;-)
 395 20:36 < brobostigon> ianto: agreed, some might,
 396 20:36 < brobostigon> i think it is a good idea,
 397 20:36 < arthurL> ++;
 398 20:37  * brobostigon bangs his head on the table, at seeing what his mum just put on the tv, :(
 399 20:37 < ianto> Of course we can't all do this with one man, too much chance of corruption ;). We will need a treasurer too
 400 20:37 < ianto> Or secretary
 401 20:37 < brobostigon> thats definatly a good idea.
 402 20:38 < arthurL> Agreed.
 403 20:38 < brobostigon> and freely published
 404 20:38 < arthurL> It *must* be someone who we can trust
 405 20:38 < arthurL> and it *must* be transparent
 406 20:38 < ianto> It *can't* be me ;)
 407 20:38 < kn100> i will be the treasurer :p
 408 20:38 < brobostigon> that makes sense ianto
 409 20:38 < kn100> ;)
 410 20:38 < ianto> kn100: Heh slow down you've only been here two days ;)
 411 20:39 < arthurL> We could do a vote for the treasurer like we did for the POC
 412 20:39 < kn100> i dont want to be the treasurer mate, i was being sarcastic
 413 20:39 < TonyP> good idea
 414 20:39 < ianto> Yeah that's a possibility but it has to be someone _reliable_
 415 20:39 < arthurL> And good with money
 416 20:40 < brobostigon> i will not put myself down for that job.
 417 20:40 < ianto> That rules out half of the team then ;)
 418 20:40 -!- Irssi: #ubuntu-cym: Total of 17 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 17 normal]
 419 20:41 < ianto> Is there anyone who'd like to volunteer however?
 420 20:41 < arthurL> Yo.
 421 20:41 < kn100> ianto i think you are best for the job
 422 20:41 < ianto> kn100: Can't ;)
 423 20:42 < kn100> cant?
 424 20:42 < kn100> or wont
 425 20:42 < kn100> :)
 426 20:42 < ianto> Admittedly I know the person doing the job personally but I am already PoC so I can't be treasurer too
 427 20:42 < arthurL> Division of labour and all that
 428 20:43 < ianto> So arthurL has volunteered as a possible person? :)
 429 20:43 < arthurL> Yeah.
 430 20:43 < brobostigon> i will not volunteer
 431 20:44 < ianto> First though we need ot confirm that we think it's a good idea before getting a person to do it ;)
 432 20:44 < brobostigon> its a good idea.
 433 20:44 < ianto> [vote] Have -cym branded merchandise with a treasurer to handle monies?
 434 20:44 < arthurL> We have to prove that it's necessary
 435 20:44 < MootBot> Please vote on:  Have -cym branded merchandise with a treasurer to handle monies?.
 436 20:44 < MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0  to MootBot
 437 20:44 < MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-cym
 438 20:44 < ianto> +1
 439 20:44 < MootBot> +1 received from ianto. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1
 440 20:44 < arthurL> +1
 441 20:44 < MootBot> +1 received from arthurL. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2
 442 20:44 < brobostigon> +1
 443 20:44 < MootBot> +1 received from brobostigon. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3
 444 20:44 < TonyP> +1
 445 20:44 < MootBot> +1 received from TonyP. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4
 446 20:44 < kn100> +1
 447 20:44 < MootBot> +1 received from kn100. 5 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 5
 448 20:45 < ianto> [endvote]
 449 20:45 < MootBot> Final result is 5 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 5
 450 20:45 < ianto> Coolio that is decided upon
 451 20:45 < ianto> I'll write something up and do a lp vote later
 452 20:45 < brobostigon> ok,
 453 20:45 < arthurL> Wych
 454 20:45 < ianto> [action] Explain to the rest of the team and setup a vote
 455 20:45 < MootBot> ACTION received:  Explain to the rest of the team and setup a vote
 456 20:45 < ianto> [topic] Misc.
 457 20:45 < MootBot> New Topic:  Misc.
 458 20:46 < ianto> In other news we have team reports in a new format
 459 20:46 < ianto> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WelshTeam/TeamReports
 460 20:46 < ianto> Report In progress = current month being compile, complete = last full month and past ones are the past
 461 20:47 < kn100> i wonder if heddlu de cymru will change to ubuntu
 462 20:47 < ianto> kn100: They haven't replied in 2months
 463 20:47 < ianto> Gawd people hate me ;)
 464 20:47 < ianto> First off they rejected the mail as a virus since I emailed with a PGP signature
 465 20:47 < ianto> One of the good points of my mail ^
 466 20:47 < arthurL> Hurr, they kind of deserve their computer systems to get raped.
 467 20:47 < kn100> oh man... they rejected a pgp signature
 468 20:48 < ianto> arthurL: +1
 469 20:48 < kn100> hey, heres my entry to the ubucym logo
 470 20:48 < kn100> http://i41.tinypic.com/eqe64p.jpg
 471 20:48 < MootBot> LINK received:  http://i41.tinypic.com/eqe64p.jpg
 472 20:48 < arthurL> Sweeet
 473 20:48 < kn100> based it off the original one
 474 20:48 < kn100> added a little informality
 475 20:48 < arthurL> I like the type used for "Cymru".
 476 20:49 < kn100> thanks :)
 477 20:49 < kn100> its Purisa with a little modification
 478 20:49 < arthurL> I have also toyed with the idea of a dragon in the middle of the logo too but I couldn't get it to work. You've pulled it off well.
 479 20:49 < kn100> thanks :)
 480 20:50 < arthurL> Try a daffodil :P
 481 20:50 < kn100> or a LEEK!
 482 20:50 < kn100> theres an idea
 483 20:50 < arthurL> Try both
 484 20:50 < arthurL> I think I'll give it a go too.
 485 20:50 < ianto> Well we have a thread for that ;)
 486 20:51 < ianto> Anything else people have issues with or like to add input to for the team?
 487 20:51 < arthurL> Not me
 488 20:51 < TonyP> me neither
 489 20:51 < brobostigon> nope
 490 20:52 < ianto> Alright then folks, thanks all for attending
 491 20:52 < ianto> Oh another thing
 492 20:52 < ianto> We will have an IRC time set in the forums
 493 20:52 < ianto> for meetings
 494 20:53 < brobostigon> please ellaborate, i am not sure what you mean ianto
 495 20:53 < ianto> We will have a thraed to decide upon a good time for IRC meetings
 496 20:53  * The_Toxic_Mite is back (gone 00:33:51)
 497 20:53 -!- gneel [n=neil@gneel42.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu-cym
 498 20:53 < brobostigon> ianto: ok, good idea,
 499 20:53 < ianto> gneel: Hoi ;)
 500 20:54 < kn100> gneel you missed the fun
 501 20:54 < kn100> and arthurL i just tried both, came out rubbish
 502 20:54 < gneel> Ah yes. I turned up last week thinking that's when the meeting was...
 503 20:54 < kn100> :)
 504 20:55 < ianto> Case 'n point regarding a thread on the topic ^
 505 20:55 < arthurL> kn100; looks like I'll win that competition then ;)
 506 20:55 < kn100> :)
 507 20:55 < gneel> I realised last week that I was 7 days early. Then forgot about tonight...
 508 20:56 < ianto> gneel: Ah don't worry we're about to close unless someone wants to add anything else?
 509 20:56 < ianto> gneel: Logs available shortly
 510 20:56 < brobostigon> ianto: yes mention, meeting times in topic,
 511 20:56 < brobostigon> always,
 512 20:56 < ianto> Alright this is finally the end of the meeting :)
 513 20:57 < ianto> #endmeeting
 514 20:57 < MootBot> Meeting finished at 14:57.