== 2011-07-03 Meeting Minutes == the agenda at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings === Old Business === * Charlie to dig for the xscreensaver updates, and put in an SRU - Carried Forward * micahg to find what Ubuntu-desktop does with java in restricted-extras - Carried Forward * GridCube to begin a discussion on the Xubuntu-devel ML to find the "Top 10" FAQ items for Xubuntu - Done * investigate putting the "TOP 10" FAQ on the website * start ML discussion on panels, reviews of current panels, launchers on panels, etc - Carried Forward === Team updates === ==== Packaging & Development ==== * merges/syncs from Debian are completed * worked to get the images downsized again; they now fit on a cd * we're waiting on some lightdm changes * pavucontrol and pastebinit need to be added to the defaults * we will look at getting pavucontrol in the sound preferences * look into putting file-roller back, now that it won't pull in nautilus anymore * look at the possibility of adding midori as a second browser ==== Bug Triage & Testing ==== * Testing is going great this cycle. Even if we don't get every image and test everyday, there are enough tests being done to know when things break * Bug squashing continues on a daily basis ==== Website & Marketing ==== * All teams need to review website content * insure http://xubuntu.org/contribute is up to date for each team * we need a news release for alpha2 this week * the imgcapt plugin is now pretty much done, and we need people to test it ==== Artwork ==== * there's a git-repo for greybird * https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird * fixed the checkboxes and radiobuttons to follow the new (brighter) style ==== Documentation ==== * We need someone that can go through the wiki documentation and update it. === Announcements === * Team Reports are due for June * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/TeamReports * Oneiric Alpha 2: July 7 * Testing for Alpha2: July 5 * The next meeting will be on Monday, 2011-07-11 at 19:00 UTC === Any Other Business === * Thunderbird is default in Ubuntu now * to subscribe to the xubuntu-devel mailing list, go to * https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel * Next meeting is in one week, July 11, #xubuntu-devel, at 19:00 UTC. * [[https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings/Archive/Minutes/2011-07-03 | Meeting log]] === Action items for the 2011-07-03 meeting === * we need a news release for alpha2 this week * we will look at getting pavucontrol in the sound preferences * All teams need to review website content * insure http://xubuntu.org/contribute is up to date for each team ==== Xubuntu Governance ==== * The governancy part of the current Strategy Document can be found at [[Xubuntu/StrategyDocument#Xubuntu Governance & Team Structure]] <<BR>> <<BR>> == 2011-07-03 Meeting Log == * People Present: * charlie-tca * micahg * ochosi * TheSheep * mr_pouit * knome The full logs can found in original form at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/07/03/%23xubuntu-devel.txt Started logging meeting in #xubuntu-devel [23:00] <charlie-tca> #STARTMEETING [23:00] <charlie-tca> Let's have a meeting! [23:01] <charlie-tca> The full agenda for the Xubuntu Community Meeting is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings [23:01] <charlie-tca> Today's agenda is: [23:01] <charlie-tca> * Old business [23:01] <charlie-tca> * Team updates [23:01] <charlie-tca> * Packaging & Development [23:01] <charlie-tca> * Bug Triage & Testing [23:01] <charlie-tca> * Website & Marketing [23:01] <charlie-tca> * Artwork [23:01] <charlie-tca> * Documentation [23:01] <charlie-tca> * Announcements [23:01] <charlie-tca> * Governance structure [23:01] <charlie-tca> * Any Other Business [23:02] <charlie-tca> Under old business, I missed some of it last week, so it is on today's agenda [23:02] <charlie-tca> [TOPIC] Old Business [23:03] <charlie-tca> 1. Charlie to dig for the xscreensaver updates, and put in an SRU - Carried Forward [23:03] <charlie-tca> and carried forward again. If anyone has a chance to research this, please do so. [23:03] <charlie-tca> 2. micahg to find what Ubuntu-desktop does with java in restricted-extras [23:04] <charlie-tca> micahg: any progress? [23:04] <micahg> charlie-tca: nope, will try to find out soon [23:04] <charlie-tca> Carried forward then [23:04] <charlie-tca> 3. GridCube to begin a discussion on the Xubuntu-devel ML to find the "Top 10" FAQ items for Xubuntu [23:05] <charlie-tca> * https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2011-June/007836.html [23:05] <charlie-tca> This is started, if we don't get any input, I will have GridCube put together his best effort and we will publish it. [23:05] <charlie-tca> I think this is a great way to get users to look at the website [23:06] <charlie-tca> 4. start ML discussion on panels, reviews of current panels, launchers on panels, etc [23:06] <charlie-tca> We haven't done this, have we? [23:06] <charlie-tca> ochosi: we still need this done, right? [23:07] <ochosi> yeah, i think we still need to [23:07] <ochosi> i think we should mainly ask for feedback on the current layout though [23:08] <ochosi> otherwise everyone will come and suggest his or her personal layout as "the best" [23:08] <charlie-tca> Okay. Do you want to send an email to ML or will I? [23:08] <charlie-tca> We could send to both -devel and -users, too [23:08] <ochosi> i can do it, but should it go to the users or dev? [23:08] <ochosi> ok, both is fine [23:09] <charlie-tca> It gives our users a chance to tell us what they like [23:09] <charlie-tca> carried forward, Action marked for ochosi [23:09] <TheSheep> or more likely, what they don't like [23:09] <charlie-tca> Team updates - Team Leads [23:09] <charlie-tca> Packaging & Development [23:09] <charlie-tca> got to have that too, TheSheep [23:10] <charlie-tca> any other comments on the old business? [23:10] * charlie-tca gets in a hurry sometimes and forgets others want to speak up [23:11] <charlie-tca> All right then, let's try to clear some of these things up this week [23:11] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit: any news? [23:12] <mr_pouit> mmh, yep, merges/syncs from unstable done, and I don't think there are any left [23:12] <charlie-tca> Great! good job on that ! [23:12] <mr_pouit> also, I did some cleanup to try to have the daily builds below 700M [23:12] <micahg> just smartbookmark-plugin, but waiting for the next Debian upload [23:13] <mr_pouit> indeed ;-) [23:13] <charlie-tca> That is working, too. Although desktop images are broken today [23:13] <charlie-tca> We are making terrific gains! Thanks for your hard efforts [23:13] <mr_pouit> yeah, there were libreoffice and mono in them, that was bad, and the reason to the huge size (800M) [23:13] <charlie-tca> ah [23:13] * charlie-tca nods [23:13] <mr_pouit> so I didn't try to add new packages yet [23:13] <mr_pouit> (pavucontrol and pastebinit) [23:13] <charlie-tca> no problem [23:14] <mr_pouit> and we're waiting on some lightdm changes :p [23:15] <mr_pouit> maybe they'll be done for the next alpha [23:15] <ochosi> btw, can pavucontrol be opened from the soundmenu? [23:15] <mr_pouit> anyway, that's all I think [23:15] <mr_pouit> I'd say no [23:15] <charlie-tca> Good question, ochosi. I don't really know [23:15] <ochosi> cause atm with only pavucontrol installed the "sound preferences" item doesn't work (in natty) [23:15] <ochosi> xfce4-mixer works ok [23:16] <mr_pouit> yeah, it's either some gnome program, or xfce4-mxier [23:16] <mr_pouit> *mixer [23:16] <ochosi> meh [23:16] <mr_pouit> pavucontrol will only add an entry in the multimedia menu [23:16] <charlie-tca> I like mixer [23:16] <mr_pouit> *submenu [23:16] <micahg> we're still affected by some library transitions, but I think that's just extra space at this point, not breakage [23:16] <ochosi> mr_pouit: anything we can do about that? [23:17] <mr_pouit> ochosi: ask the developers of indicator-sound to try "pavucontrol" if nothing else if installed? ;> [23:17] <mr_pouit> I think it's harcoded, so it needs code changes [23:18] <ochosi> i see [23:19] <charlie-tca> It would be nice if we can get it in the sound preferences, however, Having it installed by default counts a lot, too [23:19] <mr_pouit> here's what is tried currently: "gnome-volume-control --page=applications", then "gnome-control-center sound", then "xfce4-mixer" [23:19] <mr_pouit> first found, first used [23:20] <charlie-tca> Any questions for mr_pouit or micahg in packaging and development? [23:20] <charlie-tca> micahg: any chance we can get them to add pavucontrol to that? [23:21] <micahg> well, if xfce4-mixer is there, I don't see why not [23:21] <charlie-tca> Let' s try then [23:21] <charlie-tca> Bug Triage & Testing [23:21] <micahg> but this type of stuff shouldn't be hardcoded in the first place [23:21] <charlie-tca> heh [23:21] <ochosi> +1 [23:21] * micahg wonders if there's xdg-sound... [23:22] <mr_pouit> yup, there's a "nice" list for the media players, they could have done something similar for the mixers [23:22] <charlie-tca> +1 [23:24] <charlie-tca> Testing is going great this cycle. Even if we don't get every image and test everyday, there are enough tests being done to know when things break [23:24] <charlie-tca> I think we should be seeing a lot more bugs against oneiric, but it might be just me. [23:24] <charlie-tca> Any questions? [23:25] <charlie-tca> Website & Marketing [23:25] <charlie-tca> pleia2, knome, plantoschka : [23:25] <charlie-tca> any updates? [23:27] <charlie-tca> plantoschka: we need a news release for alpha2 this week. [23:28] <charlie-tca> I will try to put together the release notes by Wednesday, since we release Thursday [23:28] <charlie-tca> Most of the information will be in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/OneiricOcelot/AlphaNotes and the team reports [23:28] <charlie-tca> The AlphaNotes page is not for public release, by the way [23:29] <charlie-tca> Questions? [23:29] <charlie-tca> Artwork [23:29] <charlie-tca> ochosi: your turn [23:30] <ochosi> hm, tbh there's not much [23:30] <ochosi> i fixed the checkboxes and radiobuttons to follow the new (brighter) style [23:30] <ochosi> and experimented with other colors [23:30] <ochosi> but that's about it [23:30] <knome> (wow, the meeting is *this* late!) [23:31] <ochosi> didn't get too much feedback on the theme, but what i got was positive [23:31] <charlie-tca> Yeah, Sunday [23:31] <knome> mmh, and it's 1:30am ;) [23:31] <ochosi> any questions? [23:31] <knome> ++ for the changes i've seen [23:31] <charlie-tca> I like what the theme is doing, so far [23:32] <charlie-tca> Thanks for working on it [23:32] <mr_pouit> yes, the fixed checkboxes are nice [23:32] <ochosi> thanks [23:32] <ochosi> any suggestions or requests so far? [23:32] <charlie-tca> knome: anything on the website today? [23:33] <knome> not really. i'm hoping i'll have the energy to work on it next week [23:33] <knome> i've been working quite a lot with some WP plugins, though [23:33] <knome> the imgcapt plugin is now pretty much done, and i might need people to test it [23:33] <charlie-tca> we eagerly await that request [23:33] <knome> you can see that in action in http://shimmerproject.org/project/gmusicbrowser/ [23:34] <ochosi> i think the imgcapt plugin should definitely be used for the x-website, it's pretty self-explanatory [23:34] <knome> okay, i'll try to set up a demo wp site up as soon as tomorrow, so you can try testing that, as well as the picslide plugin, as soon as i get some more work done with it [23:35] <charlie-tca> That's neat! [23:35] <knome> i'll write this in the invitation-to-test mail as well, but the feedback i need is: 1) is it easy to use 2) is there any features you'd like to be added [23:35] <knome> and maybe 1,5) if something is not easy, how can i make that better OR how can iu document it so that it becomes obvious to the user [23:36] <knome> anyway, the interface should be really so easy that even a child could use it [23:36] <charlie-tca> great! I agree that feedback about to fix the issues is important. [23:36] <knome> mmh [23:36] <knome> good [23:36] <charlie-tca> Thanks, knome [23:36] <knome> no problem [23:37] <charlie-tca> any questions for knome? [23:37] <charlie-tca> TOPIC - Announcements [23:37] <charlie-tca> TeamReports need to be updated [23:37] <charlie-tca> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/TeamReports [23:38] <charlie-tca> * Oneiric Alpha 2: July 7 [23:38] <charlie-tca> * Testing for Alpha2: July 5 [23:38] <charlie-tca> The next meeting will be on Monday, 2011-07-11 at 19:00 UTC [23:39] <charlie-tca> TOPIC - Any Other Business [23:39] <charlie-tca> Anything else to be discussed? [23:40] <charlie-tca> I want to thank everyone for participation in this meeting. [23:40] <charlie-tca> Participation will help Xubuntu grow! [23:40] <charlie-tca> and, if that is all, [23:41] <charlie-tca> #ENDMEETING [23:45] <micahg> charlie-tca: ah, forgot to mention, Thunderbird is default in Ubuntu now :)