== Meeting information ==
 * #xubuntu-devel: Xubuntu community meeting, 12 Dec at 19:11 — 20:26 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2013/xubuntu-devel.2013-12-12-19.11.log.html]]

== Meeting summary ==

=== Items carried on ===
The discussion about "Items carried on" started at 19:11.

 * '''Open action items from previous meeting''' (19:11)
  * ''ACTION:'' knome to prepare the website for the desktop of the week
  * ''ACTION:'' skellat and ali1234 to look at the SRU progress for indicator-sound-GTK2
  * Uploaded to saucy-proposed but not accepted yet; will follow up on next meeting

=== Team updates ===
The discussion about "Team updates" started at 19:13.

  * Going to use this as the call for testing schedule http://pad.ubuntu.com/OHGoAbZPji
  * Image testing: 64 bit - 5 people did 7.3% of all possible tests and for 32 bit - 4 people did 13.2% of all possible tests
  * Automatic image testing - working for us now, though currently all failing due to the user-session bug, can be seen here https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/All/job/ubiquity_ap-xubuntu_devel_daily-run/
  * Package testing - 13/13 Mandatory, 4/5 Run Once, 10/22 Optional - atm 3 people tested packages(these all need further testing calls though) re schedule
  * Used the contact team members (xubuntu-testers) for testing call last time, 1 person amongst those mentioned above seems new to me
  * QA team is running now - good forward step this, everyone knows (or should) what each other is working on
  * Call to be written explaining exploratory testing - these will be reported via packages tracker, but is about people testing when they're using apps rather than to a schedule
  * gthumb 3.2.5 is now uploaded, a second upload will re-add webapps
  * Sent "What's New in Trusty" doc proposal email to ML
  * autopilot tests has a bit of a step forward, looks like we can do some basic testing with the xfce at the moment (checking to see if they open)

=== Announcements ===
The discussion about "Announcements" started at 19:18.

 * '''Changes in Lionel Le Folgoc's leadership positions''' (19:18)
  * Lionel will step down from the Technical Lead position, but will stay as the Debian Liaison
  * ''ACTION:'' knome to update the Leaders wikipage

=== New ang emerging items ===
The discussion about "New and emerging items" started at 19:31.

 * '''Alpha participation''' (19:31)
  * ''Vote:'' Participate in both alphas (+1) or not (-1); team members can vote (Carried)
 * '''Replacing post installation tests''' (19:34)
  * Proposal: Replace current post install tests (http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1434/info and http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1434/info with a single test http://packages.qa.dev.stgraber.org/qatracker/testcases/1569/info . Tests for old optional items to be created and then added to new single test.
 * '''"What's new" for LTS''' (19:39)
  * ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2013-December/009517.html 
 * '''Other things''' (19:46)
  * We might be able to re-add pidgin twitter support if https://code.google.com/p/prpltwtr/issues/detail?id=88 get's fixed. there is a bounty worth $5000 dollars (currently) for a fix
  * ''ACTION:'' ochosi to follow up on xfce 4.12 release with nick and report back
  * ochosi has been working with eric_the_idiot a few of the missing pieces of Xfce4.12 done
  * NSchermer said he will try to do more development releases before christmas
  * ochosi wants "those of you who test trusty already to use the shimmer-daily PPA"
  * ''LINK:'' https://launchpad.net/~shimmerproject/+archive/daily 
 * '''Schedule next meeting''' (19:57)
  * testing should focus on Gnome3/Gtk3 apps (e.g. evince), checking whether the theming is fine and whether all icons are there
  * ''ACTION:'' elfy to chase bluesabre re menulibre
  * ''ACTION:'' elfy to set up a new vm and get everyone's new bits in so I've got something to look at
  * ''ACTION:'' - team with new apps to be tested to contact elfy with details
  * ochosi said "so whoever tests indicators at the moment, also use the shimmer daily PPA please"
 * '''Schedule next meeting''' (20:26)
  * Next meeting Thu 19 Dec at 19UTC

== Vote results ==

 * Participate in both alphas (+1) or not (-1); team members can vote
  * Motion carried (For/Against/Abstained 6/0/0)

== Action items, by person ==
 * ali1234
  * skellat and ali1234 to look at the SRU progress for indicator-sound-GTK2
 * elfy
  * elfy to chase bluesabre re menulibre
  * elfy to set up a new vm and get everyone's new bits in so I've got something to look at
  * - team with new apps to be tested to contact elfy with details
 * knome
  * knome to prepare the website for the desktop of the week
  * knome to update the Leaders wikipage
 * ochosi
  * ochosi to follow up on xfce 4.12 release with nick and report back
 * skellat
  * skellat and ali1234 to look at the SRU progress for indicator-sound-GTK2

== People present (lines said) ==
 * knome (145)
 * ochosi (75)
 * elfy (61)
 * micahg-work (35)
 * meetingology (21)
 * Noskcaj (13)
 * pleia2 (12)
 * Unit193 (11)
 * ali1234 (10)
 * jjfrv8 (6)
 * lderan (5)
 * skellat (3)
 * PhoenixSTF (2)