2015-05-28
Meeting information
#xubuntu-devel: Xubuntu community meeting, 28 May at 20:00 — 20:45 UTC
Full logs at http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2015/xubuntu-devel.2015-05-28-20.00.log.html
Meeting summary
Open action items
The discussion about "Open action items" started at 20:02.
Team updates
The discussion about "Team updates" started at 20:05.
- xubuntu-qa - nothing done, still trying to plan wily cycle
- pleia2 updated docs.xubuntu.org for 15.04
- pleia2 has draft for latest Xubuntu At... post ready for review
slickymaster Updated the documentation to showcase the replacement of Abiword and Gnumeric by LibreOffice Writer and Calc, respectively, and the the drop of Gimp
Discussion items
The discussion about "Discussion items" started at 20:09.
Rebooting the FAQ articles (mailing list discussion) (20:09)
IDEA: could also ask people via social media what they think should be included in a FAQ (Unit193, 20:17)
Package testing (20:17)
ACTION: xubuntu-dev to liase with -qa when specific package testing required
Milestones to take part in (20:29)
Agreed: Participate with the ones Ubuntu does, starting at B1.
QA Incentive (20:39)
- an interesting experiment, but discontinued
Announcements
The discussion about "Announcements" started at 20:44.
Vote results
Done items
- (none)
People present (lines said)
- Unit193 (61)
- elfy (55)
- pleia2 (27)
- slickymaster (21)
- PaulW2U (5)
- meetingology (5)
- knome (3)
- dkessel (3)
- micahg (2)
- astraljava (1)
- ochosi (0)
Full Log
20:00 <Unit193> #startmeeting Xubuntu community meeting
20:00 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu May 28 20:00:22 2015 UTC. The chair is Unit193. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
20:00 <meetingology>
20:00 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
20:00 <Unit193> #chair ochosi knome
20:00 <meetingology> Current chairs: Unit193 knome ochosi
20:00 <Unit193> Howdy and welcome to the Xubuntu community meeting. Agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings
20:00 <Unit193> Anyone here for the tacos? 20:01 * dkessel
20:01 <slickymaster> I haven't dinner yet Unit193
20:01 <elfy> no thanks
20:01 <slickymaster> hey guys
20:01 <elfy> really must sort out a CTCP sod off message
20:02 <Unit193> elfy: Just means /me got messed up.
20:02 <Unit193> #topic Open action items
20:02 <Unit193> elfy to mail -dev list re Milestone participation during Wily cycle
20:02 <Unit193> That was done, I saw it.
20:02 <slickymaster> yeaps
20:02 <slickymaster> aw that too
20:02 <slickymaster> +s
20:02 <Unit193> elfy: Anything to note here?
20:03 <elfy> nope - apparently I can do whatever I want there
20:03 <Unit193> Pretty much.
20:03 <slickymaster> card blanc for elfy
20:03 <Unit193> pleia2 to email list re: QA and incentives
20:03 <pleia2> o/
20:03 <Unit193> I saw that, there was a lot of them after I got back.
20:03 <elfy> that makes it easy - we'll follow ~Ubuntu's plan ...
20:03 <Unit193> pleia2: Welcome!
20:04 <elfy> hi pleia2
20:04 <Unit193> pleia2: Care to say anything here or just move on?
20:04 <slickymaster> evening pleia2
20:04 <pleia2> I don't know that we have any end result from that thread
20:04 <Unit193> Sure,that's fine as well.
20:04 <pleia2> though I will say that the actual process of sending out stickers was no burden
20:04 <slickymaster> and thanks for sorting out that dead link in docs.xubuntu.org
20:04 <pleia2> just didn't seem like a valuable enterprise
20:05 <Unit193> Alright.
20:05 <Unit193> #topic Team updates
20:05 <dkessel> oh yeah, good job on updating the docs site!
20:05 <Unit193> Everyone have at it?
20:05 <elfy> #info xubuntu-qa - nothing done, still trying to plan wily cycle
20:06 <pleia2> #info pleia2 updated docs.xubuntu.org for 15.04
20:06 <pleia2> #info pleia2 has draft for latest Xubuntu At... post ready for review
20:07 <slickymaster> #info slickymaster Updated the documentation to showcase the replacement of Abiword and Gnumeric by LibreOffice Writer and Calc, respectively, and the the drop of Gimp
20:09 <Unit193> If there's nothing else?
20:09 <slickymaster> nothing frm me
20:09 <slickymaster> * from
20:09 <pleia2> that's all
20:09 <elfy> not as #info
20:09 <Unit193> #topic Discussion items
20:09 <Unit193> #subtopic Rebooting the FAQ articles (mailing list discussion)
20:10 <slickymaster> only bluesabre replied to that
20:10 <Unit193> So there has been some interest in helping, and I believe others did mention that they'd like to see it happen.
20:10 <Unit193> Right.
20:10 <elfy> not sure what's going to happen if people don't step up to help
20:11 <pleia2> I can help with review of the articles, and pitch in if there's anything I've seen from social media that should be included
20:11 <slickymaster> this would be a perfect case where the community might get involved
20:12 <slickymaster> s/case/project 20:12 * Unit193 looks at krytarik, sitting over there in the 'community' section.
20:12 <elfy> ha ha
20:12 <pleia2> ah yes, we could also ask people via social media what they think should be included in a FAQ
20:13 <slickymaster> yes, my thoughts are exactly the same as Unit193?s
20:13 <Unit193> But so far that leaves bluesabre writing all of them.
20:13 <pleia2> he likes writing, right?
20:13 <Unit193> Yes!
20:13 <elfy> pleia2: maybe try and get people involved that way 20:13 * astraljava can pitch in
20:13 <pleia2> if he starts a blog post, we can multiplayer it and add some suggestions
20:13 <slickymaster> and his thourough doing it, pleia2
20:14 <slickymaster> krytarik, come up, come up, wherever you are
20:15 <Unit193> So, astraljava and bluesabre, better odds!
20:16 <Unit193> I think we'll carry that for when he's here at the next meeting, no?
20:17 <slickymaster> yes, good plan
20:17 <Unit193> #idea could also ask people via social media what they think should be included in a FAQ
20:17 <Unit193> (I have no idea if that shows better in minutes.)
20:17 <Unit193> #subtopic Package testing
20:17 <elfy> ha
20:18 <elfy> so - basically we're not going to even sort out tracker this cycle
20:18 <Unit193> Right, so the mail said, we're not doing them this cycle.
20:18 <elfy> nor update testcases
20:18 <Unit193> I guess for that, all we even have to do is poke PaulW2U.
20:18 <PaulW2U> o/
20:19 <elfy> I'll assume that bluesabre and cohorts will liase when necessary for that
20:19 <Unit193> Heya, PaulW2U.
20:19 <elfy> #action xubuntu-dev to liase with -qa when specific package testing required 20:19 * meetingology xubuntu-dev to liase with -qa when specific package testing required
20:19 <Unit193> Right, I'll need a release team member for stuff too.
20:19 <elfy> hi PaulW2U
20:19 <PaulW2U> hi all
20:19 <Unit193> elfy: Anything else, or carry on to the next?
20:19 <elfy> hang on
20:20 <slickymaster> hi PaulW2U
20:20 <elfy> discussion started with PaulW2U and saqman on m/l about testing (which is more or less the same thing) we can do that now or at the end
20:21 <elfy> in which case we can move on
20:21 <Unit193> Now'll do.
20:21 <elfy> okey doke
20:22 <elfy> so - we're looking at the best way to disseminate info to testers here - currently trello board for them is my preference
20:22 <elfy> PaulW2U: you got any comments for the meeting?
20:22 <PaulW2U> no really but it testers need focus
20:23 <Unit193> FWIW, I'm keeping on top of those, thanks to SwissBot announcing every time something happens there.
20:23 <elfy> (I've also offered to run a qa meet if there'senough people -maybe social media that offer pleia2 ? )
20:23 <PaulW2U> and items to test need to be easily found and the lists kept updated
20:23 <pleia2> elfy: yes sir
20:23 <elfy> pleia2:
20:24 <elfy> PaulW2U: ack
20:24 <PaulW2U> trello board looks good 20:24 * dkessel also likes trello
20:25 <elfy> for those who've not looked - there's a Tester Notes board https://trello.com/b/IV66JCHl/xubuntu-qa
20:25 <elfy> not sure there's much else to mention on that at this moment
20:29 <elfy> Unit193: the meeting length is kind of based on the chair not looking out of the window :p
20:29 <Unit193> :3
20:29 <Unit193> #subtopic Milestones to take part in
20:29 <Unit193> All the ones Ubuntu does is what I just read
20:29 <elfy> heh
20:29 <elfy> I'm still happy with
20:30 <pleia2> wfm
20:30 <Unit193> Another idea was when/if we had something big landing.
20:30 <elfy> really>
20:30 <elfy> didn't see that on my pointless mail to the list
20:30 <Unit193> elfy: Side note, idea, etc. But I don't think of anything big.
20:31 <Unit193> 4.12 hit last cycle, so that's it pretty much.
20:31 <elfy> frankly I think the best plan is start at Beta1 unless something turns up and we want to start earlier
20:31 <pleia2> it doesn't need to be a milestone, right? just a stronger call for testing on the specific bit
20:31 <elfy> pleia2: yea for sure
20:31 <Unit193> I maaay have misremembered, pleia2.
20:31 <Unit193> That sounds closer.
20:31 <pleia2> elfy does a great job calling those to our attention, so it's easy enough for me to social media them (sometimes with or without prodding
20:31 <elfy> pleia2: the only issue being we can't stop dailies churning simply
20:32 <elfy> pleia2: works best when I LP mail for that still ?
20:32 <pleia2> elfy: yeah
20:32 <elfy> ok
20:32 <pleia2> that gets my attention, then I link to the -dev mail
20:32 <elfy> right
20:33 <Unit193> #agreed Participate with the ones Ubuntu does, starting at B1.
20:33 <elfy> bluesabre and I have quickly discussed both packages and images btw - it's not just me
20:33 <micahg> well, LO stuff should probably be tested
20:34 <Unit193> micahg: Yeah, there's a couple things to be fixed yet in x.d.s
20:34 <elfy> micahg: yea - probably
20:34 <elfy> I need to see what Ubuntu do with LO - there is a test for it - but I don'tthink much occurs
20:34 <knome> hai
20:34 <elfy> hi knome
20:34 <slickymaster> knome o/
20:35 <Unit193> http://paste.openstack.org/show/zZTHqewdJcagM769YkZJ for a quick look, micahg.
20:35 <pleia2> if LO is the only package test to point people at, maybe we can succeed in getting some to do it
20:36 <elfy> pleia2: if only it was that simple - when I looked it was really old and would need checking over
20:36 <pleia2> figures
20:36 <Unit193> Ubuntu doesn't take better care of that one?
20:36 <elfy> Unit193: they don't package test anymore
20:36 <pleia2> ah
20:36 <pleia2> nevermind then
20:37 <pleia2> would be easy if someone else was maintaining it, but if not..
20:37 <knome> manually, non-exploratorily, that is...
20:37 <elfy> micahg: the other side of that coin is that we had tests for gnumeric/abiword that people didn't test and we still got bugs reported
20:37 <micahg> ok
20:38 <elfy> but basically - if people need something tested - ask and it shall be promoted
20:38 <Unit193> Alrighty then, if there's nothing else?
20:39 <elfy> I'm good
20:39 <Unit193> #subtopic QA Incentive
20:39 <slickymaster> nothing on this end
20:40 <Unit193> Again, from the mail it seems like a nice idea, but not really as much help.
20:41 <elfy> I think I saw a few new names show up - but no way to know from where - they could well just be normal new
20:41 <elfy> and it all took me hours because tracker
20:41 <pleia2> if we do see a new contributor who starts doing a long, we can just randomly offer to send them stickers
20:41 <pleia2> but a formal program doesn't work and was a bit silly
20:41 <pleia2> s/a long/a lot
20:41 <elfy> I'd not say it was silly - just something we tried
20:42 <Unit193> So, #info discontinued ?
20:42 <elfy> Unit193: yep
20:42 <pleia2> elfy: yeah, an interesting experiment
20:43 <Unit193> #info an interesting experiment, but discontinued
20:43 <Unit193> Any other discussions?
20:44 <elfy> blueprints? or wait till ochosi is about?
20:44 <Unit193> Likely wait for him.
20:44 <Unit193> #topic Announcements
20:44 <pleia2> I updated a blueprint today \o/
20:44 <Unit193> I looked at them!
20:44 <elfy> \o/
20:45 <knome> i did nothing today!
20:45 <elfy> still working on qa one
20:45 <elfy> knome: \o/
20:45 <Unit193> I see nothing coming up.
20:45 <Unit193> #endmeeting
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