2015-05-28

Meeting information

Meeting summary

Open action items

The discussion about "Open action items" started at 20:02.

Team updates

The discussion about "Team updates" started at 20:05.

  • xubuntu-qa - nothing done, still trying to plan wily cycle
  • pleia2 updated docs.xubuntu.org for 15.04
  • pleia2 has draft for latest Xubuntu At... post ready for review
  • slickymaster Updated the documentation to showcase the replacement of Abiword and Gnumeric by LibreOffice Writer and Calc, respectively, and the the drop of Gimp

Discussion items

The discussion about "Discussion items" started at 20:09.

  • Rebooting the FAQ articles (mailing list discussion) (20:09)

    • IDEA: could also ask people via social media what they think should be included in a FAQ (Unit193, 20:17)

  • Package testing (20:17)

    • ACTION: xubuntu-dev to liase with -qa when specific package testing required

  • Milestones to take part in (20:29)

    • Agreed: Participate with the ones Ubuntu does, starting at B1.

  • QA Incentive (20:39)

    • an interesting experiment, but discontinued

Announcements

The discussion about "Announcements" started at 20:44.

Vote results

Done items

  • (none)

People present (lines said)

  • Unit193 (61)
  • elfy (55)
  • pleia2 (27)
  • slickymaster (21)
  • PaulW2U (5)
  • meetingology (5)
  • knome (3)
  • dkessel (3)
  • micahg (2)
  • astraljava (1)
  • ochosi (0)

Full Log

  • 20:00 <Unit193> #startmeeting Xubuntu community meeting

    20:00 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu May 28 20:00:22 2015 UTC. The chair is Unit193. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

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    20:00 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

    20:00 <Unit193> #chair ochosi knome

    20:00 <meetingology> Current chairs: Unit193 knome ochosi

    20:00 <Unit193> Howdy and welcome to the Xubuntu community meeting. Agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings

    20:00 <Unit193> Anyone here for the tacos? 20:01 * dkessel

    20:01 <slickymaster> I haven't dinner yet Unit193

    20:01 <elfy> no thanks

    20:01 <slickymaster> hey guys

    20:01 <elfy> really must sort out a CTCP sod off message

    20:02 <Unit193> elfy: Just means /me got messed up. Big Grin :)

    20:02 <Unit193> #topic Open action items

    20:02 <Unit193> elfy to mail -dev list re Milestone participation during Wily cycle

    20:02 <Unit193> That was done, I saw it.

    20:02 <slickymaster> yeaps

    20:02 <slickymaster> aw that too

    20:02 <slickymaster> +s

    20:02 <Unit193> elfy: Anything to note here?

    20:03 <elfy> nope - apparently I can do whatever I want there

    20:03 <Unit193> Pretty much.

    20:03 <slickymaster> card blanc for elfy

    20:03 <Unit193> pleia2 to email list re: QA and incentives

    20:03 <pleia2> o/

    20:03 <Unit193> I saw that, there was a lot of them after I got back.

    20:03 <elfy> that makes it easy - we'll follow ~Ubuntu's plan ...

    20:03 <Unit193> pleia2: Welcome!

    20:04 <elfy> hi pleia2

    20:04 <Unit193> pleia2: Care to say anything here or just move on?

    20:04 <slickymaster> evening pleia2

    20:04 <pleia2> I don't know that we have any end result from that thread

    20:04 <Unit193> Sure,that's fine as well.

    20:04 <pleia2> though I will say that the actual process of sending out stickers was no burden

    20:04 <slickymaster> and thanks for sorting out that dead link in docs.xubuntu.org

    20:04 <pleia2> just didn't seem like a valuable enterprise

    20:05 <Unit193> Alright.

    20:05 <Unit193> #topic Team updates

    20:05 <dkessel> oh yeah, good job on updating the docs site!

    20:05 <Unit193> Everyone have at it?

    20:05 <elfy> #info xubuntu-qa - nothing done, still trying to plan wily cycle

    20:06 <pleia2> #info pleia2 updated docs.xubuntu.org for 15.04

    20:06 <pleia2> #info pleia2 has draft for latest Xubuntu At... post ready for review

    20:07 <slickymaster> #info slickymaster Updated the documentation to showcase the replacement of Abiword and Gnumeric by LibreOffice Writer and Calc, respectively, and the the drop of Gimp

    20:09 <Unit193> If there's nothing else?

    20:09 <slickymaster> nothing frm me

    20:09 <slickymaster> * from

    20:09 <pleia2> that's all

    20:09 <elfy> not as #info

    20:09 <Unit193> #topic Discussion items

    20:09 <Unit193> #subtopic Rebooting the FAQ articles (mailing list discussion)

    20:10 <slickymaster> only bluesabre replied to that

    20:10 <Unit193> So there has been some interest in helping, and I believe others did mention that they'd like to see it happen.

    20:10 <Unit193> Right.

    20:10 <elfy> not sure what's going to happen if people don't step up to help

    20:11 <pleia2> I can help with review of the articles, and pitch in if there's anything I've seen from social media that should be included

    20:11 <slickymaster> this would be a perfect case where the community might get involved

    20:12 <slickymaster> s/case/project 20:12 * Unit193 looks at krytarik, sitting over there in the 'community' section.

    20:12 <elfy> ha ha

    20:12 <pleia2> ah yes, we could also ask people via social media what they think should be included in a FAQ

    20:13 <slickymaster> yes, my thoughts are exactly the same as Unit193?s

    20:13 <Unit193> But so far that leaves bluesabre writing all of them.

    20:13 <pleia2> he likes writing, right? Big Grin :)

    20:13 <Unit193> Yes!

    20:13 <elfy> pleia2: maybe try and get people involved that way 20:13 * astraljava can pitch in

    20:13 <pleia2> if he starts a blog post, we can multiplayer it and add some suggestions

    20:13 <slickymaster> and his thourough doing it, pleia2

    20:14 <slickymaster> krytarik, come up, come up, wherever you are

    20:15 <Unit193> So, astraljava and bluesabre, better odds!

    20:16 <Unit193> I think we'll carry that for when he's here at the next meeting, no?

    20:17 <slickymaster> yes, good plan

    20:17 <Unit193> #idea could also ask people via social media what they think should be included in a FAQ

    20:17 <Unit193> (I have no idea if that shows better in minutes.)

    20:17 <Unit193> #subtopic Package testing

    20:17 <elfy> ha

    20:18 <elfy> so - basically we're not going to even sort out tracker this cycle

    20:18 <Unit193> Right, so the mail said, we're not doing them this cycle.

    20:18 <elfy> nor update testcases

    20:18 <Unit193> I guess for that, all we even have to do is poke PaulW2U.

    20:18 <PaulW2U> o/

    20:19 <elfy> I'll assume that bluesabre and cohorts will liase when necessary for that

    20:19 <Unit193> Heya, PaulW2U.

    20:19 <elfy> #action xubuntu-dev to liase with -qa when specific package testing required 20:19 * meetingology xubuntu-dev to liase with -qa when specific package testing required

    20:19 <Unit193> Right, I'll need a release team member for stuff too.

    20:19 <elfy> hi PaulW2U

    20:19 <PaulW2U> hi all

    20:19 <Unit193> elfy: Anything else, or carry on to the next?

    20:19 <elfy> hang on

    20:20 <slickymaster> hi PaulW2U

    20:20 <elfy> discussion started with PaulW2U and saqman on m/l about testing (which is more or less the same thing) we can do that now or at the end

    20:21 <elfy> in which case we can move on

    20:21 <Unit193> Now'll do.

    20:21 <elfy> okey doke

    20:22 <elfy> so - we're looking at the best way to disseminate info to testers here - currently trello board for them is my preference

    20:22 <elfy> PaulW2U: you got any comments for the meeting?

    20:22 <PaulW2U> no really but it testers need focus

    20:23 <Unit193> FWIW, I'm keeping on top of those, thanks to SwissBot announcing every time something happens there.

    20:23 <elfy> (I've also offered to run a qa meet if there'senough people -maybe social media that offer pleia2 ? )

    20:23 <PaulW2U> and items to test need to be easily found and the lists kept updated

    20:23 <pleia2> elfy: yes sir

    20:23 <elfy> pleia2: Smile :)

    20:24 <elfy> PaulW2U: ack

    20:24 <PaulW2U> trello board looks good 20:24 * dkessel also likes trello

    20:25 <elfy> for those who've not looked - there's a Tester Notes board https://trello.com/b/IV66JCHl/xubuntu-qa

    20:25 <elfy> not sure there's much else to mention on that at this moment

    20:29 <elfy> Unit193: the meeting length is kind of based on the chair not looking out of the window :p

    20:29 <Unit193> :3

    20:29 <Unit193> #subtopic Milestones to take part in

    20:29 <Unit193> All the ones Ubuntu does is what I just read

    20:29 <elfy> heh

    20:29 <elfy> I'm still happy with

    20:30 <pleia2> wfm

    20:30 <Unit193> Another idea was when/if we had something big landing.

    20:30 <elfy> really>

    20:30 <elfy> didn't see that on my pointless mail to the list

    20:30 <Unit193> elfy: Side note, idea, etc. But I don't think of anything big.

    20:31 <Unit193> 4.12 hit last cycle, so that's it pretty much.

    20:31 <elfy> frankly I think the best plan is start at Beta1 unless something turns up and we want to start earlier

    20:31 <pleia2> it doesn't need to be a milestone, right? just a stronger call for testing on the specific bit

    20:31 <elfy> pleia2: yea for sure

    20:31 <Unit193> I maaay have misremembered, pleia2.

    20:31 <Unit193> That sounds closer.

    20:31 <pleia2> elfy does a great job calling those to our attention, so it's easy enough for me to social media them (sometimes with or without prodding Funny :))

    20:31 <elfy> pleia2: the only issue being we can't stop dailies churning simply

    20:32 <elfy> pleia2: works best when I LP mail for that still ?

    20:32 <pleia2> elfy: yeah

    20:32 <elfy> ok

    20:32 <pleia2> that gets my attention, then I link to the -dev mail

    20:32 <elfy> right

    20:33 <Unit193> #agreed Participate with the ones Ubuntu does, starting at B1.

    20:33 <elfy> bluesabre and I have quickly discussed both packages and images btw - it's not just me Smile :)

    20:33 <micahg> well, LO stuff should probably be tested

    20:34 <Unit193> micahg: Yeah, there's a couple things to be fixed yet in x.d.s

    20:34 <elfy> micahg: yea - probably

    20:34 <elfy> I need to see what Ubuntu do with LO - there is a test for it - but I don'tthink much occurs

    20:34 <knome> hai

    20:34 <elfy> hi knome

    20:34 <slickymaster> knome o/

    20:35 <Unit193> http://paste.openstack.org/show/zZTHqewdJcagM769YkZJ for a quick look, micahg.

    20:35 <pleia2> if LO is the only package test to point people at, maybe we can succeed in getting some to do it Wink ;)

    20:36 <elfy> pleia2: if only it was that simple - when I looked it was really old and would need checking over

    20:36 <pleia2> figures

    20:36 <Unit193> Ubuntu doesn't take better care of that one?

    20:36 <elfy> Unit193: they don't package test anymore

    20:36 <pleia2> ah

    20:36 <pleia2> nevermind then

    20:37 <pleia2> would be easy if someone else was maintaining it, but if not..

    20:37 <knome> manually, non-exploratorily, that is...

    20:37 <elfy> micahg: the other side of that coin is that we had tests for gnumeric/abiword that people didn't test and we still got bugs reported

    20:37 <micahg> ok

    20:38 <elfy> but basically - if people need something tested - ask and it shall be promoted

    20:38 <Unit193> Alrighty then, if there's nothing else?

    20:39 <elfy> I'm good

    20:39 <Unit193> #subtopic QA Incentive

    20:39 <slickymaster> nothing on this end

    20:40 <Unit193> Again, from the mail it seems like a nice idea, but not really as much help.

    20:41 <elfy> I think I saw a few new names show up - but no way to know from where - they could well just be normal new

    20:41 <elfy> and it all took me hours because tracker

    20:41 <pleia2> if we do see a new contributor who starts doing a long, we can just randomly offer to send them stickers

    20:41 <pleia2> but a formal program doesn't work and was a bit silly

    20:41 <pleia2> s/a long/a lot

    20:41 <elfy> I'd not say it was silly - just something we tried

    20:42 <Unit193> So, #info discontinued ?

    20:42 <elfy> Unit193: yep

    20:42 <pleia2> elfy: yeah, an interesting experiment Smile :)

    20:43 <Unit193> #info an interesting experiment, but discontinued

    20:43 <Unit193> Any other discussions?

    20:44 <elfy> blueprints? or wait till ochosi is about?

    20:44 <Unit193> Likely wait for him.

    20:44 <Unit193> #topic Announcements

    20:44 <pleia2> I updated a blueprint today \o/

    20:44 <Unit193> I looked at them!

    20:44 <elfy> \o/

    20:45 <knome> i did nothing today!

    20:45 <elfy> still working on qa one

    20:45 <elfy> knome: \o/

    20:45 <Unit193> I see nothing coming up.

    20:45 <Unit193> #endmeeting

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