<> * When: 24 March 2015 * Where: #ubuntu-za on Freenode. * Website: http://ubuntu-za.org/ * Meeting link: irc://freenode.net/ubuntu-za * IRC Introduction: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat == Agenda == * Welcoming and Introduction * Review minutes of previous meeting (meeting chair: nuvolari) * Plans for 2015 * Get more people to sign the Ubuntu Code of Conduct * Get more people to apply for Ubuntu Membership * Get more people to get launchpad ID's * Get more people to join ubuntu-za * Get more people to Join our trello * Events * Miscellaneous * Elect chairperson for next meeting * Next meeting: 28 April 2015 == Summary == {{{ Minutes ======= [18:31:27] STARTED (nuvolari) [18:31:36] TOPIC: Welcoming and Introduction (nuvolari) [18:36:03] TOPIC: Review minutes of previous meeting (nuvolari) [19:04:46] TOPIC: Events (nuvolari) [19:12:20] AGREED: take event discussions to mailing list (nuvolari) [19:12:40] TOPIC: Plans for 2015 (nuvolari) [19:18:47] TOPIC: Miscellaneous (nuvolari) [19:37:02] TOPIC: Elect chairperson for next meeting (nuvolari) [19:38:50] AGREED: Chairperson for next meeting: nuvolari (nuvolari) [19:38:58] TOPIC: Next meeting (nuvolari) [19:39:53] AGREED: next meeting will be 28 April 2015 (nuvolari) [19:40:49] TOPIC: Closing (nuvolari) [19:43:27] ENDED (nuvolari) Present ======= * Sinjin Swanepoel (Squirm) * Jan Greeff (Langjan) * qwebirc75581 * theblazehen * qwebirc33542 * Vincent Swart (Vince-0) * Johan Mynhardt (nuvolari) * Jacques Strydom (Jacques_StrY) * Greg Eames (magespawn) * Charl le Roux (clr_) * Raoul Snyman (superfly) * Ashton van Niekerk (Mopkop) * Bradley Putzier (captine) * Marius Kruger (amanica1) * DragonFly (dragonfly) * kulelu88 (kulelu88) * Gustav H Meyer (inetpro) * zipper * williamk * Miles Sharpe (Kilos) * eebrah * Alan Orth (stickyboy) * Padroni (Padroni) * nardusg }}} == Log == [[http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2015-03-24-18-31-27.txt|Detailed Log]] {{{ [18:31:27] Maaz: start meeting about Monthly IRC Meeting (March 2015) [18:31:27] * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles [18:31:36] Maaz: topic Welcoming and Introduction [18:31:36] Current Topic: Welcoming and Introduction [18:31:40] Lmga, nou het jy 'n nuwe truuk aangeleer [18:31:42] Maaz I am Miles Sharpe [18:31:42] Kilos: Righto [18:31:42] Welcome everyone [18:31:58] Maaz I am Greg Eames [18:31:58] magespawn: Done [18:31:59] This is our IRC get-together for March [18:32:00] Maaz I am Jacques Strydom [18:32:00] Jacques_StrY: Sure [18:32:12] I trust everyone had a good month! Hopefully not too busy [18:32:17] Maaz: I am Johan Mynhardt [18:32:17] nuvolari: Yessir [18:32:43] Hi oom Kilos, kulelu88, Langjan, magespawn, Jacques_StrY [18:32:46] wb superfly [18:32:54] and stickyboy [18:33:03] hi nuvolari ty for taking over [18:33:04] I'm visiting short tonight, got up for the cricket then played bowls tournament all day, rekke is pap! [18:33:19] Moet ek ook hierdie I am ding doen? [18:33:21] sjoe ok Langjan [18:33:24] heh, all good Langjan [18:33:28] Mopkop: yes please [18:33:29] Maaz: I am Raoul Snyman [18:33:29] superfly: Yessir [18:33:34] oh hi superfly [18:33:40] ja Mopkop asb [18:33:41] Maaz I am Ashton van Niekerk [18:33:41] Mopkop: Done [18:33:44] Maaz I am Padroni [18:33:44] Padroni: Yessir [18:33:46] Maaz: I am Gustav H Meyer [18:33:46] inetpro: Done [18:34:02] Maaz, I am Bradley Putzier [18:34:02] captine: Righto [18:34:10] I am Jan Greeff [18:34:28] you must put maaz in front Langjan [18:34:48] for anyone interested, tonight's agenda is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20150324 [18:35:03] the bot keeps records of meetings [18:35:15] Maaz: I am Marius Kruger [18:35:15] amanica1: Sure [18:35:33] oh hi captine, inetpro, amanica1 [18:35:46] Maaz: I am DragonFly [18:35:46] dragonfly: Okay [18:35:53] hello nuvolari [18:35:57] Kilos: pong [18:36:02] hi everyone [18:36:03] Maaz: topic Review minutes of previous meeting [18:36:03] Current Topic: Review minutes of previous meeting [18:36:16] lol inetpro i was calling you for the meeting [18:36:23] oh [18:36:30] I like the new structure we have, with the logs in the meeting page [18:36:46] Maaz, I am kulelu88 [18:36:46] kulelu88: Yessir [18:36:59] so if you guys want to review the previous minutes, it's on last month's page at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20150224 [18:37:13] *guys and ladies [18:38:03] hi nuvolari :) [18:38:05] * nuvolari smacks Squirm with a foam-bat [18:38:19] girls on the internet :O [18:38:32] Maaz: I am Charl le Roux [18:38:32] clr_: Righto [18:38:43] there are very clever ubuntu women [18:38:47] ain't it cool [18:39:02] confluency: please talk to kulelu88 [18:39:16] I say after the meeting we all go do some digging [18:39:34] no I'm shy inetpro *blush* [18:40:35] lol [18:40:44] digging sounds like hard work [18:40:44] especially so after a CWC loss [18:40:54] kulelu88 our number 1 contact person for ubuntu is a lady as well [18:41:04] we need more gurlz in the secret club though [18:41:30] ladies in tech need more support [18:41:33] What's on the agenda tonight [18:42:02] kulelu88: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20150324 [18:42:05] i didnt add so will go with the flow [18:42:17] [18:42:30] we don't have a lot that's new, but we should focus on 15.04? [18:42:36] hi qwebirc33542 welcome to ubuntu-za [18:42:51] do you maybe know of any events being planned? [18:42:56] it's next month... [18:42:58] and welcome to our monthly meeting [18:43:04] nuvolari: is systemd now fully integrated into 15.04 and onwards? [18:43:30] the age old problem of everyone being busy is taking its toll :( [18:43:43] as always [18:43:46] kulelu88: I'm not sure :) my ear is too far from the track these days [18:44:25] nuvolari: DFD2015 [18:44:31] tomorrow [18:44:42] nuvolari: nobody is *that* busy. Let's just be honest and say that folks aren't that interested in these things [18:44:51] inetpro, dont see any South african events for DFD [18:45:14] captine: you can still arrange something [18:45:18] kulelu88: systemd implemented is beta so yes [18:45:23] like a office party [18:45:39] inetpro, lol. I sent details to our IT team... didnt get a positive feeling back... [18:45:41] What do you guys think of Mir? [18:46:01] Mopkop: that's offtopic now [18:46:11] lol [18:46:14] I'd attend an ubuntu event if its on the weekend [18:46:15] [18:46:23] inetpro: O sorry... [18:46:30] is anybody going for the software development weekend in April? [18:46:38] hi nardusg welcome to ubuntu-za [18:46:56] kulelu88, never heard of software dev weekend. [18:47:21] Howdy [18:48:56] so far I'm not planing a release party for this release, will probably do one again for the next LTS [18:49:18] For those interested Ubuntu is hosting Openstack webinar tomorrow http://goo.gl/jWAatp [18:49:54] for anybody that is interested: http://www.meetup.com/coderetreat/events/221168158/ [18:50:14] inetpro can you take over please [18:50:21] netwerk is beneuk [18:50:27] thats from nuvolari [18:50:37] Kilos: serious!? [18:50:41] eish! [18:51:08] so do we wish to do more physical open-source related things now? like coding, documentation, etc. ? [18:51:20] ek probeer net my mtn netwerk op kry [18:51:35] ai!, ok, let's try [18:51:45] where are we? [18:51:50] [18:52:05] kulelu88 there are always opening for those that can help the bug report peeps [18:52:11] hi eebrah [18:52:40] welcome to uibuntu-za [18:52:41] daughter waking and going nuts. gotto run. will check the logs later. [18:52:49] dafuq :( mtn/afrihost [18:52:49] ubuntu-za as well [18:52:57] ok captine [18:53:04] you need axxess, nuvolari [18:53:06] [18:53:15] hi zipper wb [18:53:33] Kilos: Hi [18:53:34] kulelu88: same company [18:53:40] kulelu88: Gauteng 2015 Autumn Code Retreat a FLOSS event? [18:53:41] * nuvolari googles SFD [18:53:49] when is SFD inetpro ? [18:53:59] inetpro: I think so. [18:54:15] I'm going to attend (I hope) so that I can write some code [18:54:25] kulelu88 are you interested in helping fix bugs [18:54:35] hi Kilos [18:54:37] Kilos: I could, depending on the language [18:55:05] can i put you forward to the ubuntu council? [18:55:13] english [18:55:21] I use ubuntu because I can't get viruses when I browse even the worst porn sites. [18:55:33] nuvolari: SFD is only in September [18:55:39] oh, dfd [18:55:41] :P [18:55:43] oom Kilos, the programming language :P maybe they don't need code-fixers but more analysts to look at bugs [18:56:02] oh those languages [18:56:03] Maaz, I am Jan Greeff [18:56:03] Langjan: Yessir [18:56:11] i spose all [18:56:24] well done oom Langjan [18:56:38] when is the next UDS? [18:56:42] Slow but sure Kilos [18:56:43] UDS = Ubuntu Developer Summit [18:56:46] loads of Ubuntu is written in Python IMO [18:56:58] or rather, IIRC [18:57:13] ah, DFD: https://documentfreedom.org/ [18:57:14] ill find out more and let you know [18:57:31] i know there is a request out for more helpers [18:57:40] nuvolari: yes, sorry for not giving alink [18:57:55] doing that will be a big + towards getting membership [18:57:58] I'm definitely going to spread the word tomorrow [18:59:06] events we need to focus on are: Ubuntu Developer Summit, Ubuntu Global Jam, Ubuntu Hour, Installfest, Release Parties [18:59:14] any others? [18:59:37] [18:59:42] oh hi Vince-0 [18:59:44] hi Vince-0 [18:59:49] Why not get an Ubuntu Conference going [18:59:54] hmm, not that I can think of [19:00:00] SuP! [19:00:08] kulelu88: human resources :P [19:00:11] meeting you can join Vince-0 [19:00:15] we're out of those :'( [19:00:26] Maaz, I am Vincent Swart [19:00:26] Vince-0: Alrighty [19:00:38] kulelu88: i like that idea [19:01:01] Actually there's much going on in Cape Town, I don't know why there aren't more Linux-related stuff happening [19:01:26] nobody brought it up probably [19:01:30] a conference would be awesome [19:01:47] Ubuntu Hours 2015 http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/2979/ [19:01:50] well cape town would be the place to do it [19:01:57] There's DebConf16 [19:02:53] superfly: link? [19:03:03] here's something outrageous. have an ubuntu conference like how they have Joomla ones. at a varsity with cheap accommodation [19:03:06] no link yet [19:03:08] [19:03:11] not an official one [19:03:25] ok [19:03:25] Maaz: I am Alan Orth [19:03:25] stickyboy: Alrighty [19:03:27] hi williamk [19:03:35] oh hi williamk, welcom e:) [19:03:38] Oh... what does that do. :D [19:03:41] Hi all [19:03:42] *welcome [19:03:48] inetpro: here's the bid page: https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf16/Bids/Cape_Town [19:04:13] Maaz: topic [19:04:13] nuvolari: *blink* [19:04:19] Maaz: current topic [19:04:19] nuvolari: *blink* [19:04:22] :-/ [19:04:34] untrusted connection [19:04:35] lol different you [19:04:46] Maaz: topic Events [19:04:46] Current Topic: Events [19:04:49] who trusts mtn anyway [19:05:00] brb [19:05:01] inetpro maybe coordinate it all through trello [19:05:12] a bit late to add the topic :P [19:05:36] * inetpro thought it was added already [19:05:43] williamk: I think I saw some meeting activity organised by you guys? [19:05:49] or did that pass already? [19:05:59] * magespawn have nt been back in awhile [19:06:08] kulelu88: self-signed [19:06:24] [19:07:00] nuvolari - that did pass already? no one responded ( disappointed ) [19:07:10] I will try again soon [19:07:13] ai! [19:07:31] hmm :( [19:07:40] Maaz: minutes so far [19:07:40] Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2015-03-24-18-31-27.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2015-03-24-18-31-27.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2015-03-24-18-31-27.html [19:07:46] ah! [19:07:49] thanks inetpro [19:08:16] nuvolari: your connection ok now? [19:08:28] inetpro: it seems like it, thank you [19:08:46] nuvolari: we only see you once a month [19:08:59] So what's the current topic [19:09:01] ok... time running out, please go ahead [19:09:13] * nuvolari is ashamed of himself [19:09:15] :P [19:09:20] Vince-0: Events [19:09:46] Does anyone following Ubuntu UDS [19:10:14] unf! mtn you suck [19:10:19] [19:10:35] Vince-0, that's in November i think [19:11:01] inetpro: we don't have a lot of topics, or should we move on to the plans for 2015 item? [19:11:19] (think we kinda switched them around) [19:11:31] nuvolari: we were slack this month [19:11:46] * inetpro still not quite ready for membership [19:11:49] just yet [19:11:52] yeah [19:11:54] likewise [19:12:10] ai1 [19:12:11] Maaz: agreed: take event discussions to mailing list [19:12:11] nuvolari: Excuse me? [19:12:14] may I add a topic [19:12:16] ai! as well [19:12:20] Maaz: agreed take event discussions to mailing list [19:12:20] Agreed: take event discussions to mailing list [19:12:26] yes please williamk [19:12:37] Vince-0, I try, but havent managed to do it successfully. just watch youtube videos after the fact [19:12:40] Maaz: topic Plans for 2015 [19:12:40] Current Topic: Plans for 2015 [19:12:47] hello [19:12:55] wb Squirm [19:13:06] Maaz: I am Sinjin Swanepoel [19:13:06] Squirm: Righto [19:13:12] Right, so we really want to have more people apply for Ubuntu Membership. I've been putting it off for too long now [19:13:15] Woop [19:13:20] but stuff gets in the way [19:13:47] nuvolari: williamk wanted to say something [19:14:07] individual ubuntu membership? [19:14:21] add topic vs. saying something [19:14:30] but ok [19:14:48] williamk: ? [19:14:49] williamk: you have the mic [19:14:55] Documentation User Group, creating ECDL manuals ( http://ecdl.org/ ) as well as manuals for School Subjects based on DBE curriculum [19:15:17] Langjan you watching? [19:15:46] nuvolari: let's keep that for Miscellaneous [19:15:49] Based on Ubuntu LTS, and Debian [19:16:07] ballies mustnt try multitask on meeting nights [19:16:37] [19:16:43] Suggestion: Maybe we should put available events with details on the website? [19:16:57] nuvolari: mr chairman, are you still with us? [19:17:22] hmm... [19:17:25] inetpro: I am [19:17:29] confused now [19:17:35] lol [19:17:36] which should be for misc? [19:17:46] dont eat and chair same time [19:17:55] I'm not [19:18:01] * inetpro suggests moving on to the Miscellaneous topic and then to williamk's topic [19:18:08] right [19:18:16] Book/Manual creation software, Mediawiki, Pubsweet or Booktype [19:18:33] hang on williamk :P [19:18:47] Maaz: topic Miscellaneous [19:18:47] Current Topic: Miscellaneous [19:18:55] ok, go [19:19:51] I was just wondering how involved school students would be able to become [19:19:55] Mopkop: we should actually talk about events all the time and just summarise them in the agenda before each meeting [19:20:45] I know I had a passion for learning new things and as a matter of fact, back then I had more 'free time' and drive to document stuff for myself [19:21:01] Mediawiki : http://www.mediawiki.org , Pubsweet : https://github.com/BookSprints/PubSweet , Booktype : https://github.com/sourcefabric/Booktypeyout [19:22:12] williamk: perhaps you should join us here more often and enlighten us as we go, or write up something for us on the mailing list [19:22:28] * Kilos agrees [19:22:40] +1 [19:22:49] i get a 404 of that laswt link [19:23:00] nuvolari: in the age of whatsapp and co, the interest will be faint [19:23:27] yip 404 on last link williamk [19:23:38] yeah... :-/ [19:23:45] drones of social media [19:24:13] wouldn't it be better to spread ubuntu on a cost-based model. it's cheaper for schools [19:24:50] * inetpro votes for moving on to other Miscellaneous topics [19:24:53] in terms of writing documentation? [19:25:06] ack, already at 25 past [19:25:08] kulelu88: i have tried for four years at my sons school [19:25:43] outcome? magespawn [19:25:58] was there anyone that tried signing the ubuntu code of conduct recently? [19:26:07] or that need help doing that? [19:26:15] they installed win 7 [19:26:18] yes a few [19:26:32] there is a how to on trello nuvolari [19:26:41] Kilos: a few doing it or needing help [19:26:42] ah [19:26:44] nvm. [19:26:45] magespawn: aah well that makes it easier to give up [19:26:46] cool! [19:27:12] b ut still stays a mission [19:27:48] I wonder if we could have monthly meetings on the minetest server. [19:27:55] :D [19:27:58] >.< [19:28:01] haha [19:28:11] lol [19:28:16] no bot to record the meeting [19:28:19] I'll have a look, it can't be extremely difficult [19:28:34] Booktype : https://github.com/sourcefabric/Booktype [19:28:53] the gpg key is what makes it harder nuvolari [19:29:00] won't there be a text log on the server? ThatGraemeGuy [19:29:21] ty williamk that works [19:29:41] anything else? [19:29:45] graeme isnt here nights [19:29:52] inetpro "write up something for us on the mailing list", will do [19:29:55] and how are we on ubuntu-za launchpad id's? [19:29:56] nuvolari: Something that would be nice for all of us to learn is how to use a nice linux mail client and to use pgp encryption for emails [19:30:24] nuvolari we have 81 peeps on launchpad [19:30:58] Kilos: that's good, an increase, I'm sure? [19:31:16] but min here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Members [19:31:32] [19:31:39] * inetpro thanks Kilos for efforts to grow the community [19:31:44] I asked in the list for peeps to enter their info or mail me the details [19:32:11] only a pleasure inetpro [19:32:23] then i get you guys to do the real work [19:33:02] hmm, need to urge them peeps to become members [19:33:15] oh and thanks to superfly, Mopkop and captine for helping with building of our websites [19:33:18] it will be nice to have a good long list [19:33:23] Kilos: did I leave out others? [19:33:37] My plessure! [19:33:45] nope i dont think so [19:33:55] guys, please get involved! [19:34:03] mayjac [19:34:10] maybe Jacques_StrY [19:34:16] Trello is coming along quite well [19:34:21] lots of activity there [19:34:23] Nah I'm not involved enough yet [19:34:45] Kilos: oh, of course all the dudes on here on a daily basis are magic also [19:34:47] any bit thats done we are grateful for Jacques_StrY [19:35:09] what is the end game of spreading ubuntu? Kilos nuvolari [19:35:16] yes we must ask williamk to try attend here more [19:35:29] kulelu88: hang on, we need to finish the agenda first [19:35:41] he can pull the lug guys in with him [19:36:04] * nuvolari misses kbmonkey :'( [19:36:05] end game is world domination [19:36:10] I'll give a report on state of OSS in schools and problems faced to implement [19:36:11] nuvolari: topic please [19:36:24] ill see if i can finf=d monkey again [19:36:25] Jacques_StrY, you work on OSS in schools? [19:36:34] I am very interested in that [19:36:44] * Padroni thinks Jacques had DAMN WELL BETTER BE... [19:36:50] lol [19:36:51] ok, moving on, need to close off [19:37:02] Maaz: topic Elect chairperson for next meeting [19:37:02] Current Topic: Elect chairperson for next meeting [19:37:11] * Kilos votes nuvolari [19:37:18] * nuvolari will try to prepare a bit better for April [19:37:18] * Jacques_StrY seconds [19:37:41] I'm available :) [19:37:54] nuvolari have your connection sorted [19:38:03] fone and complain [19:38:11] or email the ceos [19:38:12] we need more volunteers as a backup next time [19:38:12] * Mopkop thirds [19:38:19] * Jacques_StrY feels nuvolari's pain - currently on wireless too [19:38:25] * inetpro was ill prepared to take over as well [19:38:45] +1 for nuvolari [19:38:50] Maaz: Agreed Chairperson for next meeting: nuvolari [19:38:50] Agreed: Chairperson for next meeting: nuvolari [19:38:58] Maaz: topic Next meeting [19:38:58] Current Topic: Next meeting [19:39:21] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20150428 [19:39:32] 28 April 2015 [19:39:53] maaz: Agreed next meeting will be 28 April 2015 [19:39:53] Agreed: next meeting will be 28 April 2015 [19:39:59] lol he is looking for a calender [19:40:16] was. cli= cal -3 [19:40:17] :P [19:40:35] ok [19:40:49] Maaz: topic Closing [19:40:49] Current Topic: Closing [19:41:00] thank you for taking the time to be here everyone [19:41:09] how do we calculate the 4th Thursday of the month on the cli? [19:41:10] we appreciate your time and inlolvement [19:41:13] * Kilos thanks nuvolari for being our chair [19:41:13] no problem [19:41:30] inetpro: well, visually, just do 'cal -3' [19:41:35] not 'cal 3' [19:41:47] cal -3 will show 3 months, prev, current, next [19:41:52] ^^ [19:42:06] cal 3 wil show the year's cal for the year 3 [19:42:16] nuvolari: no man, would just be nice to have a straight answer to that question :-) [19:42:24] oh [19:42:26] lol [19:42:37] jou beurt id=s jou beurt [19:42:40] is [19:42:50] inetpro: my sed+awk skills aren't up to scratch yet [19:43:09] captine, is it OK if I explain current state of OSS in schools tomorrow? [19:43:23] See you all at next month's meeting! [19:43:27] Maaz: End meeting }}}