<> * When: 23 February 2016 * Where: #ubuntu-za on Freenode. * Website: http://ubuntu-za.org/ * Meeting link: irc://freenode.net/ubuntu-za * IRC Introduction: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat == Agenda == * Meeting chair: '''chesedo''' * Welcoming and Introduction * Review [[ZATeam/Meetings/20160126#Summary|minutes of previous meeting]] * Plans for 2016 * Get more people to sign the [[https://help.launchpad.net/Signing%20the%20Ubuntu%20Code%20of%20Conduct|Ubuntu Code of Conduct]] * Get more people to apply for [[Membership|Ubuntu Membership]] * Get more people to get [[https://launchpad.net/|launchpad ID's]] * Get more people to [[https://ubuntu-za.org/|join ubuntu-za]] * Get more people to [[https://trello.com/b/GKXXiBxU/ubuntu-south-africa-loco|Join our trello]] * Events * Past Month: * ? * Other: * InstallFest in Cape Town at Khayelitsha Bandwidth Barn [[https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/kifest|Group Discussion]] * To be arranged: [[https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-za/2015-May/011745.html|Ubuntu Hour]], Installfests or other events * InstallFest in Cape Town at Khayelitsha Bandwidth Barn * Release Party for 16.04 * Upcoming Next Month: * Proposed project that needs loco support. Ubuntu for Hope. kmf will inform about this http://bin.snyman.info/mmmzy8ce * Miscellaneous * Ubuntu in the Wild * Get more involved with lugs to promote Ubuntu and Foss together (linuxconza or linuxfestza) * Overview goals * Elect chairperson for next meeting * Next meeting: 22 March 2016 == Summary == {{{ Minutes ======= [18:30:04] STARTED (chesedo) [18:30:18] TOPIC: Welcoming and Introduction (chesedo) [18:31:39] TOPIC: Review minutes of previous meeting (chesedo) [18:33:57] TOPIC: Plans for 2016 (chesedo) [18:36:49] TOPIC: Events (chesedo) [19:00:46] AGREED: Year Goal - To be part of the Ubuntu for Hope project and to make it a success (chesedo) [19:06:47] TOPIC: Miscellaneous (chesedo) [19:32:29] TOPIC: Elect chairperson for next meeting (chesedo) [19:33:36] AGREED: chesedo to chair next meeting (chesedo) [19:33:44] TOPIC: Next meeting (chesedo) [19:34:54] AGREED: Next meeting is 22 March 2016 @ 20:30 (chesedo) [19:35:26] ENDED (chesedo) Present ======= * Karl Fischer (kmf) * _Sponge * Werner D Pienaar (dlPhreak) * Gavin Bauer (Cryterion) * williamk * zipper * Pieter Engelbrecht (chesedo) * qwebirc91453 * Sxuza * calllll * Miles Sharpe (Kilos) * Jan Greeff (Langjan) * Jeandre Le Roux (theblazehen) * Callum (cal_py) * Raoul Snyman (superfly) * JG du Preez (fusionsparc) * Na3iL * Gustav H Meyer (inetpro) * kapanda Raw Log ======= [18:30:04] Maaz: start meeting about Ubuntu Monthly Meeting - February 2016 [18:30:04] * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles [18:30:18] Maaz: topic Welcoming and Introduction [18:30:18] Current Topic: Welcoming and Introduction [18:30:18] Hello all and thank you for joining in on our monthly meeting [18:30:23] Maaz I am Miles Sharpe [18:30:23] Kilos: Done [18:30:32] Please introduce yourselves to Maaz who will keep the minutes using `Maaz: I am ` eg. [18:30:32] Maaz: I am Pieter Engelbrecht [18:30:32] chesedo: Okay [18:30:36] Maaz I am Karl Fischer [18:30:36] kmf: Okay [18:30:48] the agenda for today's meeting can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20160223 [18:30:48] last minute changes are still welcome if anyone has any [18:30:53] Maaz, I am Jan Greeff [18:30:53] Langjan: Righto [18:31:14] Maaz: I am Gustav H Meyer [18:31:14] inetpro: Yessir [18:31:39] Maaz: topic Review minutes of previous meeting [18:31:39] Current Topic: Review minutes of previous meeting [18:31:46] dlPhreak cal_py sign in please [18:31:46] please highlight anything that you might have from it [18:31:46] the last meeting's minutes is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20160126 [18:31:52] Maaz I am Werner D Pienaar [18:31:52] dlPhreak: Alrighty [18:32:09] Maaz I am Callum [18:32:09] cal_py: Done [18:32:36] [18:32:45] hi Sxuza you made it [18:32:51] sign in please [18:33:20] and fusionsparc superfly etc etc [18:33:34] Maaz: I am Raoul Snyman [18:33:34] superfly: Righto [18:33:43] ai! ghese peeps and multitasking [18:33:49] these [18:33:57] Maaz: topic Plans for 2016 [18:33:57] Current Topic: Plans for 2016 [18:34:16] short as always unless we have someone excited to sign the COC or to become a member :D... [18:34:48] * chesedo is also not spotting any new users [18:34:50] we can add the project in here as well chesedo [18:35:11] [18:35:12] Kilos: it is currently under plans... [18:35:26] it will take 2016 to get going properly [18:35:41] yes i didnt hink when adding it [18:35:45] think [18:35:47] sorry [18:35:59] Hi all [18:36:01] needed more peroxide [18:36:11] hi williamk welcome [18:36:19] ok seems reasonable, but we will discuss today... so will move it up in future [18:36:28] moving on? [18:36:49] Maaz: topic Events [18:36:49] Current Topic: Events [18:37:05] no known events happened last month? [18:37:05] This will propably also be the last month for discussing if anyone will be hosting a release party for 16.04... [18:37:24] also anyone looking to host an ubuntu hour etc. ? [18:37:29] not really [18:37:50] cds arrive quite a while after release date [18:37:55] chesedo, yeah, but my bedroom dont count! [18:38:16] chesedo: maybe kmf's project will give us more reason to get together more often [18:38:23] yip [18:38:31] yip [18:38:41] :) [18:38:46] ok seems like we are moving over to kmf [18:38:52] lol [18:38:58] *'s project [18:38:59] we all excited [18:39:09] can we talk about the project briefly? [18:39:28] cal_py read the agenda [18:39:37] cal_py: yes [18:39:38] there is a short story there [18:39:58] and that ^^ [18:40:06] I have suggested a 16.04 release party on dbnlug [18:40:23] go for it williamk [18:40:34] williamk: and the response? [18:40:49] no one yet [18:41:25] chesedo: have you changed topic yet? [18:41:26] lol same here except for superfly that might have one [18:41:43] well did everyone read the brief? [18:41:55] sorry, what? [18:42:05] inetpro: we are on events... want one specific for kmf? [18:42:11] ah [18:42:21] release party superfly [18:42:26] oh [18:42:41] I could host one. Dunno if anyone would come though. [18:42:44] superfly: you mentioned that you might have a release party in last meeting (if mem correct) [18:43:51] superfly just refresh us when is your debconf [18:44:04] July [18:44:06] is everyone up-to-date about the Ubuntu for Hope project? and have any questions? [18:44:09] kmf: did you plan to launch your project as part of a release party, how how did you plan to start? [18:44:09] you gonna be busy in june arent you [18:44:21] * superfly doesn't seem to be getting everyone's e-mails of late [18:44:22] or how* [18:44:52] inetpro: yes ... want to "ship" the Computers with a LTS [18:44:54] not realy, lemme read the brief quicks.. :) [18:45:00] [18:45:17] Ubuntu for Hope - http://bin.snyman.info/mmmzy8ce [18:45:19] hi all [18:45:26] tnx chesedo [18:45:27] iqbal is that you? [18:45:28] kudos to superfly ... he wrote it :) my mangled words [18:45:29] hi qwebirc91453 [18:46:01] haha the fly is my editor as well [18:46:15] kmf: is the plan to the first ones out before/after 16.04? [18:46:21] qwebirc91453 welcome to our meeting please join in [18:46:32] *to have the [18:46:34] chesedo after [18:46:43] let me change chats will be back [18:46:55] [18:47:14] kmf are you planning on more than one flavour [18:47:22] ohi kapanda [18:47:42] i would like to see more kde peeps here [18:47:45] I know kmf as a brave man who doesn't give up easily, so what tough questions can we ask him to give him all the reasons why this can't work? [18:47:47] Ok Hi guys [18:47:51] Kilos hardware willing ..... I would like to go for Ubuntu and Ubuntu Mate [18:47:58] hi kapanda [18:47:59] Maaz: I am Gavin Bauer [18:47:59] Cryterion: Alrighty [18:48:00] ok, since since they are refurbished (possible low end) and for students guess will also eduUbuntu or on of the light flavours? [18:48:07] here, sorry late :( [18:48:19] inetpro are you asking? [18:48:26] Hi, late sorry [18:48:38] kmf what kind of specs are we looking at [18:48:44] kmf: am asking the others yes [18:48:52] sign in please theblazehen kapanda [18:49:23] Maaz: I am Jeandre Le Roux [18:49:23] theblazehen: Yessir [18:49:25] * inetpro hoping he will take on the challenge to prove to us otherwise [18:49:27] type in maaz I am Name [18:49:37] Kilos 32bit / 64 bit 1 to 2 gigs of ram - Ubuntu Mate's Minimum specs [18:49:56] kmf dont listen to the pro we will make it work [18:50:09] inetpro -1 [18:50:11] :P [18:50:16] ai! :-) [18:50:21] how do i go about getting an Ubuntu membership [18:50:27] What drive space will Mate require, about? [18:51:01] here is the Ubuntu Mate specs -> https://ubuntu-mate.org/about/ [18:51:25] maaz I am JG du Preez [18:51:25] fusionsparc: Sure [18:51:27] under 2g ram is min [18:51:38] kapanda: the basic guide is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership, but the peeps here should be able to help with some finer stuff [18:51:48] but mate is nice and light [18:51:52] but obviously you want to be at least LibreOffice to be usable :) [18:52:37] and browsing [18:52:42] kmf : 16.04 comes with LO 5.1 at the moment [18:53:15] williamk you and kmf must chat more about this [18:53:20] I have been using 16.04 for about 2.5 months [18:53:29] chesedo some might not have internet access :) [18:53:46] kmf: that true too [18:53:50] if we ask for ubuntu approval we must do it once for country wide projects [18:54:30] Kilos yep ... Ubuntu legal wants to know if the Loco will or is supporting me :) [18:54:42] hmm, just checked, Ubuntu Mate is offered with the Raspberry PI, gonna be playing with it soon [18:54:48] yes of course we are [18:55:05] i only see hands up [18:55:17] kmf : I am supporting you [18:55:17] what are we asking approval for from Ubuntu [18:55:23] * inetpro likes the idea, certainly hope that we can get it off the ground [18:55:28] +1 from me [18:55:29] ill help with the approval where i can kmf [18:55:35] I mean ... Canonical legal ... [18:55:36] +1 [18:55:53] i have been the route with them once before [18:55:57] kapanda to use the Ubuntu Trademark for the "Ubuntu for Hope" project [18:56:03] takes a while [18:56:16] +1 [18:56:24] +1 [18:56:38] superfly ?? [18:56:43] +1 time [18:56:45] Ok sounds like a good plan. please send a link so I can read up [18:56:58] kapanda: http://bin.snyman.info/mmmzy8ce [18:57:04] +1 [18:57:29] * Kilos thinks motion carried [18:57:34] [18:57:34] are all ok if we make the first goal "To be part of the Ubuntu for Hope project and make it a success"? [18:57:38] +1 [18:57:44] +1 [18:57:49] <_Sponge> ? [18:57:50] Thanks [18:57:51] +1 [18:58:04] +1 [18:58:09] * chesedo now just wants to turn it into something solid [18:58:27] <_Sponge> Wat is it, exactamundoly ? [18:58:41] _Sponge: http://bin.snyman.info/mmmzy8ce [18:58:50] * inetpro learns a new word [18:58:59] haha ya [18:59:24] <_Sponge> I got the paste-bin , but where's the website ? [18:59:36] _Sponge there is no website ... [18:59:41] I would like to help, I have a similar project going. You have my support [18:59:47] <_Sponge> there should be, but [18:59:53] I'm not doing the project without the support of the Loco [19:00:20] _Sponge can't use the word "Ubuntu" without permission from Canonical [19:00:20] imo we are all solidly behind you kmf [19:00:46] Maaz: agreed Year Goal - To be part of the Ubuntu for Hope project and to make it a success [19:00:46] Agreed: Year Goal - To be part of the Ubuntu for Hope project and to make it a success [19:00:59] <_Sponge> the use Lubuntu. [19:01:04] <_Sponge> **then [19:01:09] I am behind you, i want to this in Durban [19:01:10] _Sponge we will try get approval and then all different secyions run under kmf 's umbrella [19:01:20] sections [19:01:26] inetpro not so? [19:01:32] I'll help where I can in Durban aswell [19:01:37] <_Sponge> that's not part of the eco-system, then. [19:01:44] Kilos ... I think I need to apply for Membership for street cred? [19:01:56] whats that [19:01:56] <_Sponge> it should have a launchpad page, at least ! [19:02:01] kmf: so when would you like to see the first get together to get the systems ready? [19:02:40] Kilos: do we get to sign a birth certificate for the new project? [19:02:56] inetpro: lol [19:02:57] chesedo not sure :) ... maybe in the 1st week May ... after 16.04 drops [19:03:05] lol [19:03:13] I can help in Jozi [19:03:26] superfly: see no "@"'s [19:03:34] hahaha [19:03:37] well done kmf! :-) [19:03:42] oh kmf [19:03:52] we have one condition [19:04:03] you need to spend more time here [19:04:29] kmf : where about in the Tshwane area [19:04:44] williamk I stay in Pretoria East [19:04:58] williamk ... Tshwane East ;) [19:05:06] and if my visa only last 3 months you can drop off 10 or 20 pcs here and ill do the installs [19:05:10] speaking about spreading. Lesson that William proposed I think we need to look at that too [19:05:36] kapanda: i agree [19:05:39] [19:05:54] it complements this nicely [19:06:05] kmf: sounds like a good deal, you even get cheap labor as part of the deal there ^^ [19:06:16] hehe [19:06:20] lol [19:06:28] inetpro ... and also grow the Loco :) [19:06:38] * chesedo going to move to next section for william's project [19:06:47] Maaz: topic Miscellaneous [19:06:47] Current Topic: Miscellaneous [19:06:47] kapanda : you talking about Ubuntu Learning project : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning [19:07:14] :-) yes [19:08:03] <_Sponge> the ubuntu classsroom irc is never populated. [19:08:08] williamk: the "Desktop Training" one? [19:08:11] though people want certification for what they learn, we can plan an End user certification for SA [19:08:21] <_Sponge> wats Sa ? [19:08:32] South Africa [19:08:38] ubuntu classroom is closing down [19:08:38] <_Sponge> k [19:09:16] kmf : if you have a get together to get the systems ready, please make it on a weekend, I might drive up [19:09:19] <_Sponge> Does the Loco group have any Ubuntu DVD's for 14.04, left over ? [19:09:32] we have #linux-studies and can make a new channel if needed [19:09:47] williamk cool :D [19:09:59] <_Sponge> Does the Loco group have a separate website like www.ubuntu-uk.org.uk ? [19:10:02] _Sponge someone can download an iso for you [19:10:26] <_Sponge> you didn't answer my question, but I'm thinking No. [19:10:37] superfly: will you organise the DVD's for the new release again for us? [19:10:45] <_Sponge> +1 [19:10:47] https://ubuntu-za.org [19:10:51] reminds me of the OpenICDL [19:10:55] _Sponge: ^ [19:11:02] inetpro: I've never organised them [19:11:19] also http://ubuntu-africa.info [19:11:28] superfly: so who does it for us? [19:11:35] inetpro: I'm the secondary contact. Maia is still #1 [19:11:45] maia said she would still do it i think inetpro [19:11:56] cool [19:12:01] when is our re evaluation [19:12:31] she will do that for /with us as well [19:12:56] kmf : OpenICDL is not the only certification that needs to be done [19:13:09] look at : http://www.ecdl.org/programmes/ecdl_icdl [19:13:17] <_Sponge> you need to add "Ubuntu scocial" the the SocialMedia dropdown on ubuntu-za.org i.e. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Social [19:13:25] and http://www.ecdl.org/programmes/index.jsp?p=102&n=771 [19:14:08] <_Sponge> **social [19:15:22] ecdl does not seem to be ubuntu specific? [19:15:58] williamk ^^ [19:16:21] chesedo it [19:16:25] chesedo there was icdl docs written, but in 2006 i think [19:16:26] chesedo it [19:16:31] oh williamk there is a group in durbs doing refurbished pcs for other african countries [19:16:44] do you have contact with them [19:16:57] chesedo: sorry ... coffee hasnt kicked in ... it's about teaching skills not an application [19:16:58] kilos don't know who they are [19:17:05] oh my [19:17:06] <_Sponge> Isv anyone listening to my concerns, here ? [19:17:11] <_Sponge> **Is [19:17:40] _Sponge we will get there [19:17:46] <_Sponge> Also ... [19:17:55] we only hve 13 mins left [19:17:57] <_Sponge> Your not listed here : http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=388 [19:18:01] kmf and williamk: oh ok [19:18:19] we had a forum but found irc more usefull [19:18:38] and quicker [19:18:57] a lot of locos seem to be missing there [19:19:02] <_Sponge> that's not the point, you should be listed *Esp as some ppl can't afford VPN in S.Africa. [19:19:25] [19:19:30] here is one of the modules : http://www.it.uom.gr/teaching/open/eng/Module2_Ubuntu5_10_eng.pdf [19:19:36] * chesedo just covering the other topics while we continue discussion [19:20:21] <_Sponge> Look we only have 10 minutes left. Are we going to discuss your web-presence or not ? [19:20:44] a list of possible Ubuntu-in-the-wild items can be found at https://trello.com/c/2hHvWUne if anyone wants to add to that later [19:20:53] superfly inetpro ^^ [19:20:55] williamk: looking at it [19:21:12] look here for the rest of the modules : http://www.it.uom.gr/teaching/open/eng/ [19:21:40] williamk ... localization is a big thing with Educational content ... and then keeping it up to date :) [19:21:43] * chesedo cannot believe 2006 was 10 years ago this year [19:22:00] IKR chesedo [19:22:41] [19:23:00] <_Sponge> repeat: Look we only have 8 minutes left. Are we going to discuss your web-presence or not ? [19:23:00] _Sponge: the web presence? [19:23:10] <_Sponge> I've mentioned 2 things. [19:23:11] kmf : that is why you only make docs for LTS [19:23:14] _Sponge can you get here during the days [19:23:24] <_Sponge> probably. [19:23:25] williamk ... yep :D [19:23:41] except for tomorrow i am here everyday [19:23:56] _Sponge: i am trying to find it on the agenda to know how to channel it [19:24:21] * chesedo will make a hard note of it [19:24:21] I forgot to get in touch with lugs about the linuxfestza thingy [19:24:35] _Sponge have you joined us on launchpad and our mailing list [19:24:48] <_Sponge> just make the changes to ubuntuforums.org and "Ubuntu social" on the drop down menu of your Loco Website :) [19:25:06] chesedo what is the linuxfestza thingy [19:25:07] <_Sponge> no, I'm just here for this meeting. [19:25:19] ok [19:25:30] <_Sponge> 5 minutes to-go [19:25:44] <_Sponge> You need to action what I've said. [19:25:51] _Sponge: says who? [19:25:53] williamk: some of the lugs mentioned that they would like to have one [19:25:55] _Sponge: why? [19:26:06] _Sponge: who are you to tell us what we "must" do? [19:26:21] I concur with superfly. [19:26:22] ... and i am suppose to get in touch with all to check it [19:26:28] _Sponge the forums look like a Ghost town ... [19:26:31] <_Sponge> bye bye. you have nothing to give ubuntu. [19:26:33] [19:26:38] Idiot [19:26:46] who is he [19:26:51] Troll. [19:26:57] probably [19:27:08] I so badly wanted to flame.. [19:27:23] Lol this is fun [19:27:26] superfly handled it well. [19:27:37] superfly: gj [19:27:39] * Cryterion agrees [19:27:41] somehwere i did a trace to see where an ip was from [19:27:44] gg superfly [19:27:45] I've had to deal with worse -_- [19:27:47] ty superfly [19:27:50] Kilos: the Isle of Man [19:27:53] oh my [19:27:59] Hmmm. [19:28:11] he comes from there and tells us what to do? [19:28:12] last item, training program and goal... [19:28:30] with the Ubuntu for Hope being quite big... [19:29:14] will we continue to find out more about it and review the training one in 2-3 months? [19:29:27] i think it has got off to a good start [19:29:38] kmf we are all with you [19:29:42] kilos: http://whatismyipaddress.com/ip-lookup [19:29:54] Kilos awesome! [19:29:54] ty Cryterion [19:30:40] so you can tell them you have our full support [19:30:42] * chesedo guess we'll do that then [19:30:51] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings/Archive/Minutes/2016-02-17 [19:30:57] So for the training program, what is the agreement? [19:31:03] he did something similar in one of Xubuntu's meetings [19:31:09] aha [19:31:37] "<_Sponge> Crumbs, 10 minutes in, and we've not changed anything, yet. " [19:31:57] kapanda: nothing solid yet, it seems to be to much in the air with kmf and williamk the only ones in the know [19:32:19] kapanda: but will carry on discussing it [19:32:29] Maaz: topic Elect chairperson for next meeting [19:32:29] Current Topic: Elect chairperson for next meeting [19:32:37] williamk kmf try be here more and the guys will be more involved [19:32:49] +1 for chesedo [19:33:10] +1 [19:33:12] +1 for chesedo [19:33:16] +1 [19:33:36] Maaz: agreed chesedo to chair next meeting [19:33:36] Agreed: chesedo to chair next meeting [19:33:38] ty chesedo you getting good at this [19:33:44] Maaz: topic Next meeting [19:33:44] Current Topic: Next meeting [19:33:52] ty Kilos [19:33:54] [19:34:13] +1 [19:34:26] it is on the 22nd right? [19:34:30] +1 [19:34:52] looks right chesedo [19:34:54] Maaz: agreed Next meeting is 22 March 2016 @ 20:30 [19:34:54] Agreed: Next meeting is 22 March 2016 @ 20:30 [19:35:10] yip [19:35:16] thank you all for attending, hope to see again [19:35:16] thanks for running another smooth meeting [19:35:26] Maaz: end meeting }}}