meeting

   1 <Silver_Fox_> Agenda - http://ubft.pastebin.com/Q0WDyfkH
   2 <hobgoblin> the draft was better 
   3 <Silver_Fox_> Probably
   4 <Silver_Fox_> Anyway,  I say skip number 1
   5 <Silver_Fox_> We are all here and have been for some time
   6 <hobgoblin> yep 
   7 <uRock> si
   8 <Silver_Fox_> Okay, well #2 is pretty straight forward
   9 <phillw> I'd suggest darkod from the forum area, if he has time to join, I've worked with him and he is a really good guy.
  10 <Silver_Fox_> Any suggestions for people who you think could add to the group?  We will take any nomination seriously,  though we ask that forum activity is a must
  11 <hobgoblin> phillw: http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=946366
  12 <hobgoblin> that one?
  13 <hobgoblin> we have wojox and k3lt01 more or less on board I think 
  14 <phillw> the very same man, I was just dragging up his details.
  15 <uRock> two great minds
  16 <Silver_Fox_> Indeed :)
  17 <uRock> those are the two I have seen contributing a lot lately
  18 <phillw> well, kansassn00b is a bit tied up with stuff atm, he's an excellent person and does a lot of help, as does oldfred
  19 <Silver_Fox_> Yes,  I would also like to add that I broke my duck today. I am back on the forum plugging away.  I am sound of mind once again :)
  20 <hobgoblin> wojox is in the bt help channel, just PMd him 
  21 <Silver_Fox_> Apparently ;)
  22 <hobgoblin> both good people I think phillw 
  23 <phillw> I know them from my time in the 10.04 test cycle.
  24 <Silver_Fox_> Thank you for the suggestion :)
  25 <Silver_Fox_> Shall we wait for wojox or move on to the next item ?
  26 <hobgoblin> I think that if we see people in ABT and GH a lot we need to talk about them amongst ourselves first 
  27 <Silver_Fox_> Okay,  that sounds like a good idea
  28 <Silver_Fox_> On that basis i see ajgreeny a lot
  29 <hobgoblin> I would wait - if new to irc it might take a while to see the tab in webchat 
  30 <hobgoblin> aaah - yes that one 
  31 <hobgoblin> I see a lot of people and it is hard to remember the good ones ... 
  32 <Silver_Fox_> Profile - http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=27747
  33 <phillw> Silver_Fox_: you can have a forum on my phillw.net area, or you can have a sub-section that is password protected / hidden etc.
  34 <hobgoblin> wojox has quit 
  35 <phillw> ufbt.phillw.net, or you can apply a domain name
  36 <Silver_Fox_> phillw,  It is very kind to offer :)
  37 <hobgoblin> might be worth talking to bodhi about ajgreeny, I'd be surprised if they were not approcahed at the beginning of BT
  38 <Silver_Fox_> We have a number of domains already registered phillw  :)
  39 <phillw> I can have it pointed over quite quickly, though you would have to slum it with a phpBB3 forum (I cannnot afford Vb)
  40 <Silver_Fox_> Why do we need a forum? - sorry, got to ask
  41 <hobgoblin> I'd say we have one already 
  42 <Silver_Fox_> So do I
  43 <phillw> 3)  How to improve the teams output - Possibly recommend forum sections that are off the beaten track (i.e. Not ABT or General Help) ?
  44 <phillw> Or am i  reading the wrong set of notes?
  45 <hobgoblin> oic - we were meaning the other sub-forums 
  46 <hobgoblin> that tend to get forgotten 
  47 <Silver_Fox_> Sorry, sub forums
  48 <Silver_Fox_> Yes
  49 <Silver_Fox_> The masses flock to abt and general help
  50 <Silver_Fox_> Installation & Upgrades is one i like to look in -  http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=333
  51 <hobgoblin> yep 
  52 <uRock> I watch that one, too
  53 <phillw> " forum sections that are off the beaten track" was my suggestion, one just for ufbt would do that :-|
  54 <hobgoblin> though I would say that the more specific sub forums have people wandering in them anyway 
  55 <Silver_Fox_> +1
  56 <Silver_Fox_> Hardware & Laptops is another I keep my eye on (no pun intended) -  http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=332
  57 * collinp (~collin@ubuntu/member/hellow) has joined ##ufbt-meeting
  58 <uRock> I've tried looking for threads in the Testimonial that could use redirection, but find myself falling for the flames, so I quit visiting it.
  59 <hobgoblin> 2 excellent new stickies in there 
  60 <phillw> you're late, I hope you've got a note
  61 <Silver_Fox_> The problem with that forum is that it is often to late
  62 <collinp> phillw: Does skinned foot count?
  63 <hobgoblin> testimonials is not a support forum anyway 
  64 <uRock> yes
  65 <Silver_Fox_> It is not for support as hobgoblin says
  66 <hobgoblin> quick recap for collinp 
  67 <Silver_Fox_> It is simply feedback for the devs that do not hang around on the forum anyway ;)
  68 <phillw> Silver_Fox_: I also keep an eye on http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=333 
  69 <uRock> ^^ I can help with installs, but upgrades are my arch nemesis
  70 <Silver_Fox_> ;)
  71 <Silver_Fox_> :)
  72 <hobgoblin> collinp: we are looking for people on the forum to join the team - the team is not about anything other than support - much like the BT was at the start - and getting away from the 'politics' that BT ended up with - putting the fun back into what we do 
  73 <collinp> Ah
  74 <collinp> Many of the remaining old-timers from the BT would probably work well.
  75 <Silver_Fox_> We are only interested in Forum support
  76 <Silver_Fox_> Hmm,  maybe collinp 
  77 <hobgoblin> collinp: yes - but we do not want a wholesale implant - we are picky :) if that does not sound ungrateful 
  78 <collinp> Ah.
  79 <hobgoblin> hence the meeting is not in the channel 
  80 <Silver_Fox_> Yes, nor is it particularly well organised
  81 <Silver_Fox_>  / advertised
  82 <Silver_Fox_>  ;)
  83 <hobgoblin> collinp: there are 2 or 3 that are missing - bodhi and drs to start with 
  84 <Silver_Fox_> And wojox
  85 <hobgoblin> AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE SOCILA FROUP ON THE FORUM THERE ARE A FEW MORE 
  86 <hobgoblin> whoops 
  87 <Silver_Fox_> To kick mr shouty or not...
  88 <hobgoblin> so I think  that catches up 
  89 * phillw throws in a hand-grenade http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=647614  You take him as he is, but he's a really nice guy.
  90 <hobgoblin> I'd +1 him - if onyl for the bugger in every post 
  91 <Silver_Fox_> Ah, someone active in testing release forum
  92 <Silver_Fox_> Wonderful :)
  93 <Silver_Fox_> +1
  94 <phillw> hobgoblin: we did say that we cannot change us 'old timers'
  95 <hobgoblin> and very pro making people from testing move out onto the forum to help people installing new versions 
  96 <hobgoblin> I will note to PM him if we agree 
  97 <phillw> Silver_Fox_: not just that, but he will put a troll down so wonderfully, it is a joy to watch, :-D
  98 <collinp> haha
  99 <Silver_Fox_> Okay, so we have 3 potential new people to message hobgoblin . Looking good :)
 100 <phillw> There are a couple on the Dev area that you may want to consider (but nor Gnome_user)
 101 <hobgoblin> I have 4 
 102 * Silver_Fox_ counts again...
 103 <hobgoblin> oldfred oldrod ranchhand kansasnoob
 104 <collinp> There are a few people on what remains of the UF-UA that might be good.
 105 <uRock> maybe Rubi1200, I have seen him/her give some great advice. http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=1040746
 106 <hobgoblin> I've noticed that one 
 107 <phillw> kansass I asked before, you may ask again., but he said his life had got really compilcated
 108 <hobgoblin> collinp: we need names 
 109 <hobgoblin> phillw: oh ok - ignore that one then 
 110 <collinp> Iowan
 111 <hobgoblin> he might  - he might also be busier now he's a mod 
 112 <collinp> Iowan seems to be enthusiastic about helping.
 113 <uRock> snowpine?
 114 <hobgoblin> and ajgreeny - maight be worth asking bodhi about - I just do not believe he's not been approached before 
 115 <Silver_Fox_> I was looking at snowpines profile recently
 116 <collinp> zkriesse
 117 <collinp> tuxxy, possibly.
 118 <hobgoblin> always the joker collinp 
 119 <Silver_Fox_> Very funny
 120 <collinp> :)
 121 <hobgoblin> not seen tuxxy for some while
 122 <collinp> shredder12
 123 <collinp> gnomefreak
 124 <hobgoblin> buggar it - I will add ajgreeny 
 125 <Silver_Fox_> We also need to see about sisco hobgoblin 
 126 <Silver_Fox_> But that one is complicated
 127 <hobgoblin> oh yes 
 128 <hobgoblin> no - I will do it and blag it if necessary
 129 <uRock> presence1960 is good, but I haven't seen him/her on for quite some time
 130 <collinp> If panickedthumb ever comes back, he's good too.
 131 <collinp> Last I heard some real life things were keeping him away.
 132 <hobgoblin> busy busy busy he is  
 133 <Silver_Fox_> We all have lives :)
 134 <hobgoblin> yep - but I know other stuff 
 135 <uRock> I don't
 136 <collinp> There's also lukjad
 137 <Silver_Fox_> Lukjad,  has he moved out of the cafe of games section in last month?
 138 <collinp> He does enjoy the games.
 139 <hobgoblin> mmmm - not so sure about him - I like the guy a lot - but it is about support 
 140 <collinp> Lets see...
 141 <phillw> well, again from the 10.04, and now the 10.10 area, you may want to stalk http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=690937
 142 <Silver_Fox_> lukjad007 last two posts say it all
 143 <hobgoblin> we must also tyalk to andrew again 
 144 <Silver_Fox_> May 9th, 2010  and  June 4th, 2010 
 145 <collinp> Andrew?
 146 <hobgoblin> but it is hard to catch him 
 147 <Silver_Fox_> He's been too busy to bump even 
 148 <hobgoblin> andrew46 
 149 <Silver_Fox_> I catch andrew hobgoblin 
 150 <Silver_Fox_> And its 47 now
 151 <hobgoblin> then do so 
 152 <collinp> overdrank
 153 <Silver_Fox_> hobgoblin,  Andrew joins the channel 
 154 <hobgoblin> we need to get these people onto the social group so we have a list 
 155 <hobgoblin> Silver_Fox_: I know - but I've been missing him 
 156 <Silver_Fox_> Okay,  perhaps we have enough to be getting on with
 157 <hobgoblin> collinp: good call - I will pm him 
 158 <Silver_Fox_> Don't want to get swamped with people just yet, do we? 
 159 <hobgoblin> well a little bit, yes :)
 160 <hobgoblin> I ahve 10 now 
 161 <Silver_Fox_> How many on the list of people to contact...10 ?
 162 <hobgoblin> I'll sort a paste out - let's carry on 
 163 <Silver_Fox_> Thats a nice number to stop at for the time being
 164 <Silver_Fox_> We can always add more later
 165 <Silver_Fox_> Okay,  I think we covered #3 on the agenda
 166 <Silver_Fox_> collinp,  http://ubft.pastebin.com/Q0WDyfkH 
 167 <Silver_Fox_> Agenda for you ;)
 168 <collinp> aye.
 169 <Silver_Fox_> So number 4...
 170 <Silver_Fox_> Anyone have anything else to say  ?
 171 <Silver_Fox_> I have nothing
 172 <collinp> Lets rock.
 173 <uRock> \m/
 174 <Silver_Fox_> Except I met someone special last weekend ;)
 175 <uRock> kool
 176 <Silver_Fox_> Sounds epic collinp 
 177 <Silver_Fox_> Rock on our of here!
 178 <Silver_Fox_>  *out
 179 <Silver_Fox_> I think we are done...
 180 * phillw can i  beg?
 181 <Silver_Fox_> Sure
 182 <Silver_Fox_> :)
 183 <uRock> I thought the last person in was supposed to bring donuts?
 184 <phillw> if anyone would support my application for ubuntu membership could they pop a note on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw
 185 <Silver_Fox_> Oh that,  everybody say NO
 186 <Silver_Fox_> :)
 187 <phillw> I't's kinda embaressing to ask, but evidently I do need them
 188 <Silver_Fox_> When are you up phillw  ?
 189 <hobgoblin> few weeks 
 190 <Silver_Fox_> I will attend the meeting
 191 <hobgoblin> k - I have 8 
 192 <collinp> If I can remember, I'll attend it as well.
 193 <Silver_Fox_> I do not sleep brilliantly anyway so timezones hardly matter to me
 194 <Silver_Fox_> But you are in UK say yay
 195 <phillw> UK
 196 <hobgoblin> http://ubft.pastebin.com/pepFCNV7
 197 <Silver_Fox_> yay
 198 <hobgoblin> I will PM them unless there are any nays 
 199 <collinp> *sigh* I need to update my wiki page.
 200 <phillw> I think it is september
 201 <hobgoblin> phillw: 7/9 
 202 <Silver_Fox_> ajgreeny
 203 <hobgoblin> buggar 
 204 * phillw still re-writing own wiki apge
 205 <phillw> *page*
 206 <Silver_Fox_> And still sisco 
 207 <hobgoblin> gah 
 208 <Silver_Fox_> Sorry, you did post a list master
 209 <hobgoblin> any others 
 210 <hobgoblin> http://ubft.pastebin.com/4107ueMs
 211 <uRock> HappyFeet, j/k
 212 <hobgoblin> k - that is 10 again lol 
 213 <hobgoblin> sigh 
 214 <Silver_Fox_> None from me at the minute,  though I may have one by next month
 215 <hobgoblin> happyfeet - I would +1 but not seen for a while 
 216 <uRock> lol, he got his beans burnt
 217 <hobgoblin> Last Activity: May 11th, 2010 
 218 <hobgoblin> lol uRock 
 219 <hobgoblin> we don't want them ones :d
 220 <uRock> nope
 221 <hobgoblin> star would be a good one too 
 222 <Silver_Fox_> You know what I think - a waste :(
 223 <hobgoblin> yea - I swear these people get hammered and post and then it's a d'oh moment 
 224 <uRock> yup, don't drink and post
 225 <Silver_Fox_> I am still sober by the way :)
 226 <uRock> sweet
 227 <hobgoblin> collinp: so who were you thinking of from BT?
 228 <hobgoblin> and still we manage to make it an hour lol 
 229 <collinp> hobgoblin: nigel, starcraftman, tenach, paultag
 230 <hobgoblin> tenach is in the social group - but rarely comes to ufbt for some reason 
 231 <hobgoblin> star is busy - but is on the radar 
 232 <Silver_Fox_> I have been in contact with starcraft
 233 <hobgoblin> nigel is busy and wandered off, but .... 
 234 <Silver_Fox_> nigel is settling into a new job i know, but is he active on forum?
 235 <hobgoblin> paul is in the team but forgets to come - I think he is biusy with trying to pull BT back together and I wish him well with that one :)
 236 <Silver_Fox_> So do I
 237 <Silver_Fox_> I hate how bureaucratic it is. Seems everyone has an agenda
 238 <collinp> Scratch nigelb. He has 16 posts.
 239 <hobgoblin> at some point I hope to return - when I do the water will be sweet again :)
 240 <hobgoblin> k 
 241 <hobgoblin> collinp: so the 3 in your list are about already lol 
 242 <collinp> yeah.
 243 <Silver_Fox_> fail ;)
 244 <Silver_Fox_> Hehe
 245 <hobgoblin> but tenach needs to be about or not I think :)
 246 <collinp> There's also Joeb454, but
 247 <hobgoblin> I'll talk to him tenach 
 248 <Silver_Fox_> I am seeing more of the lolrus in the channel, perhaps we should invite permanently ;)
 249 <hobgoblin> joeb is sort of in and out everywhere atm collinp :)
 250 <uRock> =)
 251 <Silver_Fox_> joeb is finishing up with some uni work 
 252 <collinp> That sounds far too much like myself :(.
 253 <hobgoblin> well we all have lives 
 254 <collinp> Mine involves wasting 7 hours at a school that teaches me near nothing academically.
 255 <Silver_Fox_> Happiness Now
 256 <hobgoblin> collinp: at some point I want to talk to you about UA - I was in it and left, but it's too late in the day now 
 257 <collinp> AKA: United States public high school.
 258 <Silver_Fox_> Seems positive person
 259 <hobgoblin> mmmmm 
 260 <collinp> hobgoblin: Ok
 261 <hobgoblin> Silver_Fox_: do they do support - all I see is spammy cafe threads 
 262 <hobgoblin> if they do I will PM them 
 263 <Silver_Fox_> I am checking
 264 <hobgoblin> collinp: it's life - if you don't do the academic school stuff a life of hope or shelf stacking awaits 
 265 <hobgoblin> make the most of the time you have at school 
 266 * hobgoblin takes of parent hat again 
 267 <collinp> lol
 268 <Silver_Fox_> hobgoblin,  No support, just likes general technical chat 
 269 <collinp> 3 years + collage.
 270 <collinp> Hopefully collage is going to be MIT.
 271 <uRock> collinp, college is even better, you pay for classes on the degree sheet that are junk, but such is the way of life
 272 <hobgoblin> Silver_Fox_: then no then - I do not want another one of those - he's luke 
 273 <Silver_Fox_> Good morning from UK
 274 <Silver_Fox_> Okay hobgoblin .
 275 <uRock> good morning to the UK
 276 <hobgoblin> k - so the list is http://ubft.pastebin.com/4107ueMs and a boot up the ass for tenach
 277 <hobgoblin> also leoquant was interested and then has disappeared 
 278 <hobgoblin> hang on  -  lp list 
 279 <collinp> I haven't seen leoquant.. anywhere.
 280 <hobgoblin> https://launchpad.net/~ufbt
 281 <hobgoblin> so I will PM on the forum - get replies - get them onto irc and then do the lp thing 
 282 <Silver_Fox_> Cool
 283 <hobgoblin> right - all done - there is one more thing to deal with 
 284 <uRock> and then?
 285 <hobgoblin> let me type it out (drunkenly and slow)
 286 <hobgoblin> k - the BT works with everyone having voice and getting votes - this team does not  - there are 5 voiced people - bodhi, ibuclaw, paultag, silver fox and I - we will make decisions when there are any issues to deal with - we will always listen to anyone in the team, but our decision is final 
 287 <uRock> Si
 288 <hobgoblin> we will make decisions about who are the voiced core - if we decide to change them you'll be told 
 289 <hobgoblin> we do not want to end up with stagnant water 
 290 <uRock> k
 291 <hobgoblin> we want it to be fun, there is no CoC - we expect people to be aware and mature enough to know when to stop 
 292 <hobgoblin> we expect everyone to say si 
 293 <hobgoblin> :)
 294 <hobgoblin> think that is it :)
 295 <uRock> Ci
 296 <Silver_Fox_> The voiced make a collective decision when issues come up
 297 <uRock> sounds good to me
 298 <Silver_Fox_> I think thats it...
 299 <collinp> That's a far more authoritarian approach, but it also works far better than the BT's current setup.
 300 <hobgoblin> finally - one more thing 
 301 <hobgoblin> the biggest thing is that we want people to be helping people - and we want people to enjoy it 
 302 <hobgoblin> that is what was missing when I left BT 
 303 <hobgoblin> collinp: yep - but the collective has a voice - just not as obvious
 304 <Silver_Fox_> So thank you for helping :D
 305 <Silver_Fox_> And for attending
 306 <uRock> most welcome
 307 <hobgoblin> cool - that went so much better than I was expecting - great :)
 308 <hobgoblin> ty - all
 309 <Silver_Fox_> Yes, I was not thinking it would go well.   :)

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