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   5 <duanedesign> [TOPIC] Review List Of Prospective Members In Need Of Mentor.
   6 <MootBot> New Topic:  Review List Of Prospective Members In Need Of Mentor.
   7 <duanedesign> we have 6 people on the prospective list looking for mentors
   8 <duanedesign> i cleaned this out recently... there are still a couple i have not seen in awhile
   9 <nhandler> duanedesign: You are skipping your agenda item? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/Meetings
  10 <duanedesign> nhandler: i was going to do it last
  11 <nhandler> Ok
  12 <duanedesign> or at least  after a few items. In hopes some peps might show up
  13 <duanedesign> peeps*
  14 <duanedesign> :P
  15 <duanedesign> Nu2boonage is one on the list i have seenn around a lot
  16 <duanedesign> so we should at least try and make a point to get them a mentor
  17 <PabloRubianes> I think I can have on Prospect 
  18 <PabloRubianes> as mine is having some pesonal issues with life and little time, I can help other 
  19 <nhandler> Great PabloRubianes.
  20 <duanedesign> sounds good.
  21 <duanedesign> We also need to clean up that master list
  22 <nhandler> PabloRubianes: Can you inform him about this and update the wiki list?
  23 <PabloRubianes> I will talk to him, if he wants me as tutor :P
  24 <duanedesign> [ACTION] pablorubianes to mentor nUboon2Age
  25 <MootBot> ACTION received:  pablorubianes to mentor nUboon2Age
  26 <duanedesign> we should make an attempt to see if those people on the list are still around
  27 <duanedesign> if you see any of them around please make note of it so we can determine who is still around and in need of a mentor
  28 <duanedesign> doews anyone here have a prospect?
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  30 <duanedesign> PabloRubianes: you already told us yours was having an issue
  31 <duanedesign> i do :)
  32 <PabloRubianes> not an issue, more like wife pregnant and little time
  33 <duanedesign> malev and km0r3 are doing great
  34 <duanedesign> PabloRubianes: that will do it
  35 <duanedesign> :)
  36 <duanedesign> i would love to try and get km0r3 and malev to be voted on soon
  37 <PabloRubianes> they are cool people!
  38 <duanedesign> they have shown great commitment over the last several months
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  40 <duanedesign> shredder12 is another prospect i have. He has also been a prospect for awhile
  41 <duanedesign> so if you have a chance get to know  them as I would like to vote on them soon
  42 <nhandler> I have been doing some work with phillw for a while now.
  43 <duanedesign> phillw does ggreat work in #ubuntu-beginners
  44 <nhandler> He has also been doing some good work in the greater community
  45 <duanedesign> thats great
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  47 <duanedesign> hello nUboon2Age
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  49 <nUboon2Age> phillw: lots of work on promoting lubuntu
  50 <nUboon2Age> duanedesign: hey duanedesign
  51 <duanedesign> we were just talking about you :) all good of course
  52 <nUboon2Age> :)
  53 <duanedesign> nUboon2Age: i think PabloRubianes is going to talk to you after the meeting about being your mentor
  54 <PabloRubianes> I already did
  55 <nUboon2Age> PabloRubianes just came and 'got' me. :)
  56 <duanedesign> well great!
  57 <duanedesign> ok
  58 <duanedesign> [TOPIC] Focus Group wiki pages
  59 <MootBot> New Topic:  Focus Group wiki pages
  60 <duanedesign> i sent an email out last month outlining some focus group goals, Tasks and trying to get the mission of the Focus groups figured out
  61 <duanedesign> or at least get the mission in writing so everyone understands what it is we are doing in each group
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  63 <duanedesign> the Tasks are to be items people can reference when they want to do something for that Focus Ggroup
  64 <duanedesign> i get asked a lot I am interested in * FG what cann I do
  65 <duanedesign> so we have a list, and that list will also be a roadmap for that person to become better educated about that area of the community
  66 <duanedesign> also our Focus Groups need to work harder at getting our members establisheed in the broader community
  67 <duanedesign> if you are in the wikiFG you should be working towards 'wiki admin group'
  68 <duanedesign> launchpadFG --> Bug Control
  69 <duanedesign> Dev --> MOTU
  70 <duanedesign> etc, etc
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  72 <nhandler> Well, working towards those teams is less important than working with them imo
  73 <duanedesign> so we have a rough outline in the email i sent out. We need to take that and  put it into our Focus Group wiki pages
  74 <duanedesign> nhandler: that is a valid point
  75 <duanedesign> if you work with them the other will come as a natural progression
  76 <duanedesign> i think the Focus Group pages should follow a more uniform outline
  77 <duanedesign> they should all generally want to convey the same information. There willl be variation, but for the most part they should be similar
  78 <duanedesign> i think this will help make info easier to find and help insure each FG covers all its bases on their wiki page
  79 <nhandler> duanedesign: Do you think it would help if we made a generic template?
  80 <duanedesign> nhandler: that is a good idea.
  81 <PabloRubianes> they (pages) should have info in order people get into the FGs in the propper way...
  82 <nhandler> Might be a good task for the wiki fg
  83 <duanedesign> the wiki FG page is pretty good
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  85 <duanedesign> i added a little 'header' at the top of each page. With info about each team. Email, IRC channel, etc.
  86 <duanedesign> someone suggesed having the lead in that group of info...
  87 <duanedesign> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Wiki
  88 <duanedesign> example^
  89 <nUboon2Age> note: i didn't even know about the idea of FG's until Zach explained it to me.  there was little information about it on the wikis.  i like the idea of creating more obvious paths for people to move through to become more involved with the community.
  90 <duanedesign> nUboon2Age: that is a good point.
  91 <PabloRubianes> one thing is not importan the email, as we only have one ML 
  92 <PabloRubianes> important*
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  94 <PabloRubianes> and the Wiki FG wiki is really helpfull
  95 <duanedesign> we have this page   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups
  96 <duanedesign> maybe incorporate some of that into the main page?
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  98 <duanedesign> the little table with the 'if you are interested in X see Y'
  99 <duanedesign> PabloRubianes: good point about  email
 100 <duanedesign> I will email the list and try and get some volunteers to work on the wiki
 101 <duanedesign> and talk with swoody about the wiki FG helping
 102 <duanedesign> [ACTION] duanedesign email BTML about focus group wiki page reworking
 103 <MootBot> ACTION received:  duanedesign email BTML about focus group wiki page reworking
 104 <duanedesign> [IDEA] make a template for focus group pages to follow
 105 <MootBot> IDEA received:  make a template for focus group pages to follow
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 107 <duanedesign> i dont think we have anyone to vote on?
 108 <PabloRubianes> i don't think so
 109 <nUboon2Age> to amend what i said before about having more obvious paths to move through to get more involved w/ community, i agree with nhandler that it seems to me more important to work with a team rather than be a part of one.
 110 <duanedesign> nUboon2Age: do you think adding the table that is on the Focus Group page to the mainpage would help?
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 112 <nUboon2Age> since people's participation waxes and wanes, and not everyone is a 'joiner', but everyone can appreciate having some structured paths, and expectation setting.
 113 <duanedesign> definetly.
 114 <duanedesign> I think getting the 'structured path' a little more organized for each Focus group would help alot
 115 <nUboon2Age> duanedesign: adding it to which main page?
 116 <nUboon2Age> oh probably you mean the BT main page.
 117 <duanedesign> the beginners team main page
 118 <duanedesign> :)
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 120 <duanedesign> there was talk of redoing this page at UDS and the BT possibly helping with that. http://www.ubuntu.com/community
 121 <nhandler> duanedesign: cjohnston was working on that iirc
 122 <duanedesign> however that currently IMHO is beyond our resources at the moment. Would be nice to work towards having the momentum and manpower to do something like that
 123 <duanedesign> nhandler: yes, he was.
 124 <duanedesign> ok
 125 <duanedesign> any volunteers to do post meeting tasks?
 126 <nUboon2Age> duanedesign: looking at the main bt page again for the first time in a bit its definately shaping up.  I like the friendly focus group buttons from the other page, so that might work.  having just seen them for the first time i don't have a definite response. ;)
 127 * nhandler would prefer not to do them again
 128 <duanedesign> nUboon2Age: it is definetly good to get a perspective from a new eye
 129 <duanedesign> Update Next meeting time on the wiki
 130 <duanedesign> Keep BeginnersTeam/TeamReports updated.
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 132 <nhandler> Don't forget Send meeting minutes to ubuntu-beginners mailing list
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 134 <duanedesign> put the logs on the wiki
 135 <duanedesign> and send to ML
 136 <duanedesign> ok anything else?
 137 <duanedesign> anyone?
 138 <duanedesign> <.<  >.>
 139 <nhandler> PabloRubianes or nUboon2Age: Either of you up for it?
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 141 <duanedesign> i can do one of them
 142 <PabloRubianes> yes
 143 <nUboon2Age> duanedesign: i didn't catch the whole meeting and would prefer to observe for now. thanks.
 144 <duanedesign> ok then
 145 <duanedesign> oh one more thing
 146 <duanedesign> Diego is starting to organize classes that are Development related
 147 <duanedesign> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Development/Academy
 148 <duanedesign> right now there is a C++ class that is taking shape
 149 <nhandler> Hmm...I should talk to him with my classroom hat on
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 151 <duanedesign> should start in about a week
 152 <duanedesign> nhandler: would your idea be that it should be in #ubuntu-classroom
 153 <duanedesign> and open/advertised to the broader community?
 154 <nhandler> duanedesign: Probably. But I'd need to look into the nature of the classes a bit more
 155 <duanedesign> ok
 156 <duanedesign> if anyone has an idea for a class or wants to participate see the wiki page
 157 <duanedesign> or talk to Diego. I have also been trying to get mohi to join in this effort
 158 <duanedesign> he has done a good job organizing classes in ##learners
 159 <duanedesign> ok i think that is it :)
 160 <duanedesign> one more time anyone have anything to add
 161 <duanedesign> #endmeeting