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   1 * The topic #ubuntu-be is :  http://ubuntu-be.org | get support at #ubuntu-nl, #ubuntu-fr, #ubuntu-de, #ubuntu | IRC meeting on Wednesday 2010-03-24 at 21h (UTC+1), see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/IrcMeetings for agenda and more information
   2 * Sujet de #ubuntu-be défini par jean7491!~jm@109.236.143.55 le Fri Mar 19 21:08:55 2010
   3 * #ubuntu-be :http://www.ubuntu-be.org/
   4 <rulus_> I'm here for the meeting but I'm busy, so please highlight me when necessary :)
   5 * Clamam (~claudio@d51A51CAF.access.telenet.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
   6 <jean7491> Hi to all, who is here for the meeting ?
   7 <Clamam> Claudio Mammarella, Clamam
   8 <jean7491> hello rulus , Clamam , ...
   9 <rulus> hello
  10 <jean7491> JanC  hfsdo  mandel  mimor  siegie  ?
  11 <mandel> ping
  12 <hfsdo> present
  13 * pvandewyngaerde (~id984031@224.35-67-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
  14 <jean7491> hello hfsdo , mandel 
  15 <mandel> jean7491,  hello, sorry I have not been around much but I was on holidays :D
  16 <jean7491> ok mandel, you are allways welcome !                 pvandewyngaerde ?
  17 <jean7491> JanC ? mimor ? siegie ?
  18 * Enissay est parti (Remote host closed the connection)
  19 <jean7491> anyone else for the meeting ?
  20 * siegie est parti (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
  21 <pvandewyngaerde> hi
  22 <jean7491> hello pieter
  23 <jean7491> mimor ?
  24 <jean7491> JanC ?
  25 * siegie (~siegie@shell.sin.khk.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
  26 <jean7491> let's start with topic 1 – past and future events 
  27 <jean7491>  dipro oostmalle 21/3
  28 <jean7491> report ...
  29 <jean7491> the booth was runned by 2 volunteers.  sofar i know from siegie, the public in relation with the size of the fair, fairly small. As we started earlier the preparation, there was enough material, including posters, flyers and cd's. the unused promotion material (20 cd's, …) material is available by rulus in ghent for the dipro fair on 18/4. 
  30 <jean7491> our team has a lot of conversation with interested visitors, and installed ubuntu on a laptop during the fair. Pictures ( rulus ) and report (sigie ?)) will follow in the wiki.
  31 <jean7491>  the total of the gifts (32.40 euros) was less than the booth fees   
  32 <jean7491> rulus or siegie : comments?
  33 <rulus> ah, I just updated the wiki with a tiny report, that can probably be replaced/updated with this information
  34 <jean7491> something to add ? siegie ?
  35 <jean7491> or other comment ?
  36 <rulus> no, not really anything to add
  37 <jean7491> thx rulus and siegie for your work in oostmalle !
  38 <jean7491> next item : dipro genk 28/3
  39 <jean7491> Clamam prepared the booth (4 volunteers, hardware, promotion and decoration material).   everything is ready.
  40 <jean7491>  the team is ready to cooperate with the bitmappers for ubuntu-promotion, including the release party in genk on 16/5 
  41 <jean7491> Clamam : comment or addition ?
  42 <Clamam> No, i think that everything is ready for sunday
  43 <jean7491> ok, i suppose you will see fabian in the fair ...
  44 <jean7491> JanC ?
  45 <jean7491> no answer from JanC ?
  46 <Clamam> Does the bitmappers have a own booth ?
  47 <jean7491> i don't know 
  48 <jean7491> yesterday evening fabian wrote that the booth was not yet requested
  49 <JanC> I'm here
  50 <mandel> I might sounds stupid, but what are the bitmappers?
  51 <jean7491> JanC , did you follow the last exchanges ?
  52 <jean7491> bitmappers = computer club in hasselt
  53 * siegie est parti (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
  54 <mandel> ok
  55 <jean7491> http://www.bitmappers.be/
  56 * siegie (~siegie@shell.sin.khk.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
  57 <mandel> jean7491, thx
  58 <JanC> has there been further contact with the bitmappers about the booth yet?
  59 <Clamam> Fabian didn't contact me like Jean7491 suggested to him
  60 <jean7491> JanC no contact with me , is our booth requested to dipro ?
  61 <JanC> and he's not here either and didn't mail AFAICS...
  62 <JanC> jean7491: I am/was waiting to order, as we don't know how much to order (we don't know how much space they want...)
  63 <JanC> if I order tomorrow that's okay for dipro
  64 <jean7491> of course, you can not order today !
  65 <JanC> I can, they are not asleep yet  ;)
  66 <JanC> and most days they read e-mail in the evening
  67 <JanC> but they make the floor plan on Friday, so no problem
  68 <jean7491> are they still waiting for your message ? if yes, order now, if later fabian ask more place in our booth, we can ask later more to dipro !
  69 <jean7491> other comment for genk ? otherwise next item
  70 <Clamam> No
  71 <jean7491> next item : dipro ghent 18/4 
  72 <jean7491>   i've only questions ! 
  73 <jean7491> questions are : “ubuntu booth or not” ? ...
  74 <jean7491> who is volunteer for the booth ? 
  75 <jean7491> who will coordinate the booth ?
  76 <JanC> about Genk: Clamam: can you use (more) official CDs?
  77 <JanC> I can send them through the post tomorrow & they should arrive on Friday then
  78 <Clamam> i think that Jean7491 have sent me some cd's but i haven't recieved them yet
  79 <JanC> jean7491: well, do you need more?  ☺
  80 <Clamam> ive got 12 original CD's en 3 copy's, i can make more copy's.
  81 <jean7491> wait ...
  82 <JanC> jean7491: I can probably help in Gent (but would have to check the date of an "eerstecommunie"-party in the family first)
  83 <JanC> but depends on if there are other volunteers in Gent too of course
  84 <JanC> Clamam: I can probably send some more CDs then...
  85 <Clamam> Ok.
  86 <JanC> no point in having leftover official CDs at the end of April  :-)
  87 <jean7491> cedric was suppose to send yesterday a lot of original cd's, i just requested confirmation from him
  88 <JanC> to Genk?
  89 <jean7491> yes, to Clamam
  90 <jean7491> but without confirmation, i doubt,  ...
  91 <Clamam> if he sent it yesterday then i wil recieve it tommorow, because today they warent in the mail
  92 <jean7491> but a b-plan (reserve-plan) is likely handy !
  93 <jean7491> i still have 10 original cd's and 16 home-burned
  94 <JanC> "a lot" sounds like package
  95 <Clamam> if i have to many cd's on sunday i will send them to the next coordinator of the next event.
  96 <JanC> I think there aren't any until Gent  ☺
  97 <JanC> anyway, I'll look into sending CDs tomorrow
  98 <Clamam> thank you
  99 <jean7491> cedric had 50 cd's
 100 <jean7491> to summarize : JanC, you send cd's to Clamam, and we'll see later about the cd's for ghent, if ...
 101 <JanC> 50 CDs is a package that doesn't count as a normal letter, so kilopost or taxipost or something...
 102 <JanC> so you might have to sign for it
 103 <jean7491> idd
 104 <JanC> I'll send less (A4 enveloppe max. 3cm thick is biggest that counts as a normal letter IIRC)
 105 <Clamam> i was today at home and the rest of the week also, so i will waith for the packages.
 106 <JanC> good
 107 <jean7491> after genk, we come back to ghent
 108 <jean7491> questions are : “ubuntu booth or not” ?- who is volunteer for the booth ? - who will coordinate the booth ?
 109 <jean7491>  preparation needs time, beginning with collecting material and the constitution of a team 
 110 <jean7491> nobody here from ghent area ?
 111 <jean7491> as initiative should come from ghent-ubunteros !
 112 <jean7491> mimor ?
 113 * rulus_ est parti (Quit: Leaving.)
 114 <jean7491> if no comment, next item ?
 115 <jean7491> next item : release parties Lucid Lynx 10.04lts 
 116 <jean7491>  - already announced in mechelen on 3/5 by hcc vlaanderen (likely meeting)
 117 <jean7491> and in genk (cultuur-centrum) on 16/5  by the bitmappers (big event!)
 118 <jean7491>  and in brussels on 9/5 by DeWereldMorgen.be (ex-Indymedia), more information will be published 
 119 <Clamam> release party genk http://www.releaseparty.eu/show.php5?page=home
 120 <Clamam> sorry, this one http://www.ubuntu-meeting.be/
 121 <jean7491> about ghent : is there a possibility to organize a release party for lucid lynx ? Who will coordinate this event ?
 122 <jean7491> again this is a question for ubunteros from ghent ! ...
 123 <jean7491> about antwerp ...
 124 <jean7491> with local ubunteros i started a project to organize within the ubuntu-be booth at dipro 9/5 something, an “install-launch-rp-lookalike”- we are studying the possibility
 125 <jean7491> question is sent to dipro for faisability 
 126 <jean7491> i'm optimistic about volunteers for the booth 
 127 <JanC> how do you see a release party at a dipro fair?
 128 <jean7491> not a release party, but an animation, like install party in an improved area in the afternoon, or something like that
 129 <JanC> if they give our booth for free?  ☺
 130 <JanC> (if we make some promo for it...)
 131 <jean7491> if dipro agree (we need at least 6m x 4m), - main problem will be promotion in antwerp area to attract people : suggestion, and certainly  help, will be welcome
 132 * siegie est parti (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
 133 <jean7491> this is a win-win situation for both dipro and ubuntu-be
 134 <JanC> jean7491: if we get the space for free it's a win-win, yes
 135 <JanC> what they lose from the booth they could win from extra visitors
 136 <jean7491> usually we have a depth of 2 to 3 m with 4 m in front for +/- 38 euro : we need a little more depth an to be sure we will have this depth
 137 <mandel> Just a question here, how many people usually go to the release parties, ' cause in the dipro fair I wne not that many people were "truly interested"
 138 <JanC> most are small, more like release parties
 139 <JanC> but the big one in Herk-de-Stad 2 years ago had 300 visitors
 140 <jean7491> i've no answer, this is why i spoke about additional promotion locally in antwerp
 141 <jean7491> in dipro fair, we usually have little to do in the afternoon ...
 142 <mandel> maybe if we put fliers at the CS (Computer Science) unis? maybe first years join us and things like that
 143 <JanC> "most are small, more like small install parties" I meant
 144 <mandel> JanC, got you ;)
 145 * siegie (~siegie@shell.sin.khk.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
 146 <jean7491> for antwerp, first brain storming to have a coherent project, then the promotion ... flyers, other possibilities, ...
 147 <JanC> most people don't go to the other side of the country for having their PC installed or 3 beers and a chat, but in Genk (or H-d-S) there are several talks & presentations & the like
 148 <mandel> JanC, so just to get an idea (since I'm new in the country) what would be the best options in terms of attendance?
 149 <JanC> what do you mean?
 150 <mandel> JanC, for example, use more resources for Gent 'cause we know there will be more people due to other talks
 151 <mandel> take more cds, info... you know
 152 <jean7491> we will look for dipro answer ... and eventually negociate ... at the same time i already asked some ubunteros from antwerp for ideas, ... brain-storming ...
 153 <JanC> I don't know if it's a good idea to make 2 large release events in Flanders...
 154 <jean7491> nothing else for the release parties ...
 155 <jean7491> next item : other events ...
 156 <jean7491> from me, nothing, JanC ?
 157 <JanC> mandel: but more local drinks or install parties sounds okay to me
 158 <mandel> uh, I've got a point to make here :D
 159 <JanC> mandel: please do
 160 <mandel> I know is far away, but any one going to UDS, I'll be present and will probably take out for a dinner or two
 161 <JanC> mandel: I'll be at UDS most likely
 162 <JanC> and some others too
 163 <mandel> maybe we can do something around the fact that it is in belgium ;)
 164 <JanC> the release party in Genk is 2 days after the end of UDS
 165 <JanC> I was thinking to ask if some peopel can stay over until then and attend...
 166 <mandel> JanC, maybe I can convince one or two to stay at my place
 167 <JanC> some people from the international community I mean
 168 <mandel> at least a spaniard one...
 169 <JanC> it's one of the things we can do to help the Bitmappers  ☺
 170 <JanC> maybe somebody even wants to talk there...
 171 <mandel> JanC, let me ask around... maybe a good drink will work
 172 <JanC> but I'd have to ask Fabian about that first
 173 <mimor> Ok jean7491 I'm here
 174 <jean7491> JanC : don't forget release party in genk is organized by bitmappers, and not by ubuntu-be : first ask to bitmappers!
 175 <JanC> jean7491: yes, of course
 176 <JanC> jean7491: about talks, I can't decide
 177 <JanC> about visitors, that's no problem of course
 178 <JanC> everybody is welcome I'm sure  :-)
 179 <jean7491> mimor : we alredy spoke about ghent, did you read the log ?
 180 <mimor> not yet
 181 <mimor> just arrived home
 182 <JanC> anyway, any updates about Gent ?
 183 <mimor> not yet
 184 <mimor> I'm going to a meeting tomorrow
 185 <mimor> someone said I can use the space
 186 <mimor> but jean7491 you asked me for a small report
 187 <mimor> it's quite easy
 188 <mimor> a not too big room
 189 <mimor> mentality of the people is nice
 190 <mimor> if you want to present something, you can just do so
 191 <mimor> if you want to give a workshop, you're welcome too
 192 <mimor> there is a beamer
 193 <mimor> a wall to project to
 194 <mimor> I'll check if I can find pictures of the space
 195 <jean7491> how many people, in confortable situation : 5, 10, 20, ...
 196 <mimor> 15 I guess
 197 <mimor> 22 in the other room
 198 <mimor> it's like 22 people in the room are no problem
 199 <mimor> but they won't all be able to have their laptop on a table
 200 <mimor> there are sofa's (one of them is mine ^^), fridges, internet, power... like everything
 201 <mimor> it sure is big enough for a RP
 202 <JanC> sounds like a good install party location?
 203 <mimor> THE place to do so
 204 <jean7491> i understand 2 rooms, 15+20 people = approx 30: it seems good
 205 <mimor> :)
 206 <mimor> 15 people on a chair with a table and laptop...
 207 <JanC> best make it an install party then  ;)
 208 <JanC> we can't install 22 PCs at the same time anyway
 209 <mimor> OR something like 20 ppl to sit down
 210 <mimor> we can do anything we want :)
 211 <mimor> but I'll be there tomorrow
 212 <JanC> and internet is available I presume?
 213 <JanC> right, you mentioned already
 214 <mimor> yes
 215 <JanC> decent internet?
 216 <mimor> tomorrow is meeting 12... http://hsg.bn2vs.com/Meeting12
 217 <mimor> quite white-spaced program atm :)
 218 <mimor> so i'll have some time to ask them whatever we have to know to throw a RP
 219 <mimor> it is decent
 220 <JanC> I mean, when downloading updates for 10 people at the same time...  ;)
 221 <JanC> better to have 20 Mbit/s than 2 Mbit/s then  :P
 222 <mimor> if there would be 20 people, I'd rather set up a mirror :)
 223 <JanC> or a proxy
 224 <JanC> but good idea
 225 <JanC> we'll see what you know after tomorrow
 226 <jean7491> ok, looks good, just do it ! do you have ideas about an organizing team ? 
 227 <mimor> let's see... same as last time?
 228 <mimor> JanC brings CD's
 229 <JanC> depends on the date
 230 <mimor> you can bring cables and do some decoration :)
 231 <mimor> and I'll take care of the rest?
 232 <mimor> but it's nice
 233 <JanC> we don't really need CDs
 234 <mimor> they have lightning talks & workshops of all sorts of computer related stuff
 235 <JanC> oh, about other events, the people from Libre Graphics Meeting asked if some people from ubuntu-be want to volunteer for them (but I'll mail the list about that)
 236 <mimor> so the tech-part of the release party will be a little higher than last time
 237 <mimor> it's like.. mimor's release party V0.2
 238 <JanC> hehe
 239 <jean7491> ok, after the meeting tomorrow, think about date (when?) and promotion + invitation
 240 <mimor> yep
 241 <jean7491> anything else about tis event ?
 242 <mimor> I want to follow their usual approach to presentations for the RP if we do it at their place
 243 <mimor> it's like: Give lightning talks on stuff such as the major changes in Ubuntu 10.04
 244 <mimor> and then do some hands-on stuff
 245 <mimor> so if someone knows something cool in the ubuntu 10.04 to demo... let me know
 246 <jean7491> ok, 
 247 <jean7491> other event in ghent is dipro 18/4
 248 <jean7491> questions are : “ubuntu booth or not” ?- who is volunteer for the booth ? - who will coordinate the booth ?
 249 <mimor> I think we should skip this one
 250 <jean7491> ok, next week !
 251 <JanC> some people expect us to be there...
 252 <JanC> but okay, next week...
 253 <jean7491> is it the answer to the first question yes or no ?
 254 <jean7491> ok, we will see next week
 255 <jean7491> next topic is  - Promotion 
 256 <jean7491> item #1 - we need a public-relation team helping to promote ubuntu information and activities in the media.
 257 * mandel est parti (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
 258 <jean7491>  first work is to write and disseminate an article about the release of 10.04lts
 259 <jean7491> any contact on this subject with the bitmappers ?
 260 <JanC> I'm fine with helping to write a PR in Dutch (and maybe English?)
 261 * mandel (~mandel@211.86-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
 262 <jean7491>  comments ?  are there other volunteers to work on this project ?
 263 <jean7491> if no comment, next item ...
 264 <JanC> and I'll contact the bitmappers, as I have to contact them anyway
 265 <mandel> jean7491, mind pasting the last part, lucid gave up on me :P
 266 <JanC> mandel: see PM
 267 <mandel> I can help with the english without a problem
 268 <JanC> I'm not sure an English PR is useful
 269 <JanC> is there any relevant English press in .be?
 270 <mandel> well, I dont think there are so many eng speakers anywa :(
 271 <JanC> maybe some publication for expats in Brussels?
 272 <JanC> anyway, if somebody knows one, we can write one
 273 <jean7491> if no other comment, next item ...
 274 * bbartek est parti (Quit: Ik ga weg)
 275 <jean7491> item #2 - comment about the proposal to burn CD's for Ubuntu-be ? (see last weeks reports in the wiki)
 276 <JanC> one more item to discuss with the bitmappers  ☺
 277 <jean7491>  remember : we are looking for volunteers to lead this project (related to 10.04lts and to investigate the possibilities, including prices-offers.  comments ? volunteers ? 
 278 <jean7491>  if no interest for this item, it will not stay in the agenda 
 279 <jean7491> ... for next meetings 
 280 <mandel> I can always voluteer but since I do not speak dutch or french I am usually useless ...
 281 <mandel> I can take picts though ;)
 282 <jean7491> thx !
 283 <mimor> mandel, you're more than welcome to the RP
 284 <JanC> you should learn Dutch!  :P
 285 <mimor> there will prob. be a french guy and a german guy :D
 286 <mimor> so there will be some english ;)
 287 <mandel> mimor, cool, let me know when
 288 <mandel> JanC, not enough time
 289 <mandel> jean7491, let me now if you need a photographer and I'll take care
 290 <mandel> or a english speaker ;)
 291 <mimor> mandel, could you do a talk on desktop-couch?
 292 <mimor> you might want to copy-paste the one from fosdem ><
 293 <mandel> mimor, yes, ofcourse, but I'll do a better one, no that detailed
 294 <mandel> mimor, and I got the app running for cooking recipes to pick up to practice
 295 <mimor> changes etc
 296 <mimor> :D
 297 <mimor> nice
 298 <jean7491> we continue the agenda : i presume that we can skip the  topic "support points map status", as mongolito404 is not present 
 299 <mimor> yes
 300 <jean7491>  topic 4 – things living in the mailing list 
 301 <jean7491> item #1 :   new ways/events to promote ubuntu: all suggestions are welcome,  everybody can look for contact and propose activities - any proposition ?
 302 <jean7491> this was my last item, other questions not in the agenda ?
 303 <jean7491> last topic is : next meeting on 31/03/2010 at 21 h. 
 304 <siegie> hi, i'm back. Last item , can't we get something on the  radio like a few years ago ?
 305 <jean7491> what do you mean ?
 306 <mimor> we can
 307 <mimor> Urgent should be able to announce it I guess :P
 308 <mimor> what should we do to like, get it on the evening-news?
 309 <mimor> would be nice to have them promote it as much as they did promote Windows 7
 310 <siegie> 2 years ago or so, mark vdb was on radio 1, about ubuntu
 311 <mimor> sweet
 312 <siegie> I think the release of ubuntu 10.04 LTS would be a great  moment to  repeat it :p
 313 <jean7491> perhaps we can ask him : btw this is a great topic for a p-r team !
 314 <jean7491> other comment ?
 315 <siegie> do we have a PR team? :à
 316 <mimor> no
 317 <mimor> do you like role-play?
 318 <mimor> :p
 319 <mimor> but we can imagine like we have one :D
 320 <jean7491> no, since a few weeks i'm asking initiative, proposition and volunters for a p-r team (with people who knows about p-r), but without success (till now, i stay optimistic)
 321 <JanC> mimor: we can send them a press-release of course
 322 <JanC> urgent i mean
 323 <jean7491> nice, who will lead the project "press-release" ?
 324 * squel (~jm@109.236.143.55) a quitté #ubuntu-be
 325 * mandel_macaque (~mandel@128.85-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
 326 <siegie> next meeting, i can't be  here, to much  free beer. (student presedium ellections)
 327 <siegie> :)
 328 <JanC> lol
 329 <jean7491> ok, end of the meeting, see you (except siegie) next week , thanks for your participation ! have a good night !
 330 <JanC> jean7491: maybe just ask who wants to help writing a press release on the mailing list
 331 <mimor> siegie, valid excuse :d
 332 * Clamam (~claudio@d51A51CAF.access.telenet.be) a quitté #ubuntu-be
 333 <mimor> but there can never be too much beer :)
 334 <siegie> mimor thanks :)
 335 <JanC> asking for people to lead means many people get scared  ;)
 336 <jean7491> JanC : i'll add the question in the report, 
 337 <JanC> better make it a separate mail too
 338 * mandel est parti (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
 339 <JanC> so that the subject line makes clear what the topic is
 340 <JanC> many people only read mails that look interesting
 341 <JanC> ;)
 342 <jean7491> JanC : please write this email, as i'll have to write the report of this meeting tomorrow evening?