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Download 1 jan 13 21:00:41 <jean7491> hi to all, we start with a check : who is here for the meeting ?
2 jan 13 21:00:50 <FrankVanDamme> me
3 jan 13 21:00:53 <clamam> Hello, i am
4 jan 13 21:01:13 <woutervddn> i'm here..
5 jan 13 21:01:14 <massimo21> me to
6 jan 13 21:01:41 <FrankVanDamme> massimo21: I don't think I know you?
7 jan 13 21:01:46 <mimor> I am
8 jan 13 21:02:10 <massimo21> i live in Genk
9 jan 13 21:02:59 <jean7491> hi FrankVanDamme clamam massimo21 woutervddn mimor Gh0sty ...
10 jan 13 21:03:36 <Gh0sty> y
11 jan 13 21:03:36 <JanC> o/
12 jan 13 21:03:44 <mimor> lo
13 jan 13 21:04:15 <jean7491> hi JanC , El-Kodar : are you here for the meeting ?
14 jan 13 21:04:32 <woutervddn> I was wondering where JanC was.. refreshing my inbox cleared that out :p ;-)
15 jan 13 21:05:17 <JanC> working on a mail about FOSDEM too ;)
16 jan 13 21:05:45 <woutervddn> spammer ;-)
17 jan 13 21:05:51 <FrankVanDamme> you'll be at the fosdem booth as usual?
18 jan 13 21:06:28 <jean7491> anyone else for the meeting ?
19 jan 13 21:06:33 <mongolito404> Hiµ
20 jan 13 21:06:52 <jean7491> hi mongolito404
21 jan 13 21:07:14 * jimbauwens (51538a12@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.83.138.18) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
22 jan 13 21:07:54 <jimbauwens> Hello!
23 jan 13 21:08:04 <FrankVanDamme> hi
24 jan 13 21:08:25 <jimbauwens> Sorry for not being in the last meeting, I was a bit busy
25 jan 13 21:08:31 <jimbauwens> meetings*
26 jan 13 21:08:49 <jimbauwens> Exams, Newyear, etc
27 jan 13 21:08:56 <jean7491> hi jimbauwens , welcome back !
28 jan 13 21:09:04 <jimbauwens> Thanks you =)
29 jan 13 21:09:24 <jean7491> i propose we start with topic #1. future events - januari - … 2011
30 jan 13 21:09:46 <jean7491> item #1 dipro computer fair leuven 16/01/2011, . . .
31 jan 13 21:09:52 <jean7491> afaik team and preparation are ok, frank is coordinating
32 jan 13 21:10:01 <FrankVanDamme> the vitals are present
33 jan 13 21:10:07 <jean7491> FrankVanDamme : comment ?
34 jan 13 21:10:37 <FrankVanDamme> which is 3 people including myself @ brabanthalle at 9am, plus the materials
35 jan 13 21:10:53 <jean7491> ok
36 jan 13 21:10:57 <woutervddn> I'll try to get there at 9 but I'm not sure I'll make it..
37 jan 13 21:11:24 <woutervddn> I'll be there before 10h though..
38 jan 13 21:11:38 <mimor> I'll have to move to another location / building
39 jan 13 21:11:54 <mimor> let's wait with the dipro ghent for 15 minutes?
40 jan 13 21:12:08 <jean7491> ok
41 jan 13 21:12:16 <FrankVanDamme> I have received cell phone nrs from Rudy & Thijs
42 jan 13 21:12:46 <mimor> thx
43 jan 13 21:12:50 <JanC> good, always useful in case of unpredictable delays ;)
44 jan 13 21:13:27 <FrankVanDamme> well I once hit a traffic jam close to that location at 1:00 in the night, so well :-)
45 jan 13 21:14:16 <woutervddn> yeah.. leuven is known for that..
46 jan 13 21:14:55 <jean7491> FrankVanDamme : don't forget a 5 min briefing to the team about what available is (hardware and software, including paswords)
47 jan 13 21:15:58 <FrankVanDamme> ok. there's one all-in-one pc I already have, I'll test it before sunday
48 jan 13 21:16:11 <FrankVanDamme> plus a few folks bring laptops/netbook
49 jan 13 21:18:08 <jean7491> FrankVanDamme : do you have other question/comment ?
50 jan 13 21:19:38 <FrankVanDamme> yes: one thing: I presume there are people from the dipro organization who are appointed to arranging stands and so forth?
51 jan 13 21:20:15 <jean7491> yes, when you arrive, just ask where is the ubuntu stand ...
52 jan 13 21:20:24 <FrankVanDamme> ok perfect
53 jan 13 21:20:49 <jean7491> and eventually ask for additional chairs, table, ...
54 jan 13 21:21:05 <jean7491> dipro people are cooperative
55 jan 13 21:21:39 <JanC> there will be ubuntu-be on the tables for teh stand
56 jan 13 21:21:48 <FrankVanDamme> even better
57 jan 13 21:21:51 <JanC> a label with "ubuntu-be"
58 jan 13 21:21:57 <JanC> but best is to ask
59 jan 13 21:22:14 <FrankVanDamme> and for the record, for those who intend to come early: we can enter at gate nr. 5
60 jan 13 21:22:16 <JanC> otherwise you can run around the whole fair before finding ;)
61 jan 13 21:22:38 <FrankVanDamme> so we ask. note taken
62 jan 13 21:23:20 <JanC> often you can unload your car near the "standhouders" entrance
63 jan 13 21:23:33 <JanC> not sure how parking is there?
64 jan 13 21:23:58 <JanC> if it's paid parking, maybe warn people to come by bus, or carpool...
65 jan 13 21:24:30 <FrankVanDamme> that info should be on the brabanthalle website
66 jan 13 21:25:17 <JanC> jean7491: did Dipro say anything about that in a mail to you?
67 jan 13 21:25:23 <woutervddn> you can't come by bus.. -_-'
68 jan 13 21:25:37 <JanC> woutervddn: can't?
69 jan 13 21:25:48 <FrankVanDamme> not on sunday apparently
70 jan 13 21:25:53 <JanC> huh
71 jan 13 21:25:55 <FrankVanDamme> only on big events probably...
72 jan 13 21:26:01 <FrankVanDamme> http://www.brabanthal.be/bereikbaarheid
73 jan 13 21:26:02 <woutervddn> I'm taking public transport to get there, but on sundays it can't be done
74 jan 13 21:26:15 <JanC> I would think there are fairs on Sunday there quite often?
75 jan 13 21:26:27 <woutervddn> (well you can but you'll have to walk for like 17 freakin minutes..)
76 jan 13 21:26:43 <FrankVanDamme> oh what's 17' in a person's life. :)
77 jan 13 21:27:03 <jimbauwens> alot :)
78 jan 13 21:27:05 <woutervddn> JanC: yeah it's strange, during the week there are over 30 busses passing there.. :s
79 jan 13 21:27:26 <FrankVanDamme> public transport logic :-)
80 jan 13 21:27:44 <JanC> also, not fun if you have to carry a lot of course
81 jan 13 21:28:28 <jimbauwens> There doesn't say allot on the website about parking space, this is all I find: "De centrale ligging, de vlotte bereikbaarheid via de Lijn en de ruime parking van ca. 1 000 wagens zijn een belangrijke troef bij de organisatie van een concert of een fuif. "
82 jan 13 21:28:28 <JanC> maybe the parking is cheap/free though
83 jan 13 21:29:39 * trichard est parti (Remote host closed the connection)
84 jan 13 21:30:21 <woutervddn> sec. I'll ask my girlfriend, she worked not far from there..
85 jan 13 21:31:09 <woutervddn> she thinks it is a paying parking but she wasn't sure of it..
86 jan 13 21:31:41 <FrankVanDamme> most of those parkings are payed-for
87 jan 13 21:32:41 * massimo21 est parti (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
88 jan 13 21:32:53 <JanC> most have a way to make them paid, but that's not always used
89 jan 13 21:33:08 <JanC> and sometimes the "standhouders" can park for free/less
90 jan 13 21:33:24 <jean7491> eventually we can ask dipro for information, but usually the closest parkings are to be paid, sometimes there is free parking at distance
91 jan 13 21:34:11 <JanC> so best is asking Dipro
92 jan 13 21:34:33 <jean7491> i'll send a mail to dipro for info
93 jan 13 21:34:52 <El-Kodar> hum, what is dipro in french ?
94 jan 13 21:35:37 <jean7491> http://www.dipro.be/benl/micro_mega_market/fr
95 jan 13 21:35:43 <jean7491> same name
96 jan 13 21:36:03 <jean7491> other question for leuven ?
97 jan 13 21:36:31 <jean7491> details are in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Leuven_2011-01-16
98 jan 13 21:37:08 <JanC> okay, anything more about Leuven ?
99 jan 13 21:37:26 <FrankVanDamme> if no one has questions, it's OK for me
100 jan 13 21:38:44 <jean7491> item #2 dipro computer fair hasselt 23/01/2011: already ok – comment massimo21 or clamam
101 jan 13 21:39:01 <clamam> Everything is ok
102 jan 13 21:39:16 <clamam> http://doodle.com/5d42z7bgdafpg25r?newDesign=true
103 jan 13 21:39:46 <clamam> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Hasselt_2011-01-23#preview
104 jan 13 21:40:00 <El-Kodar> I have a question, what language do you use to a dipro meeting ?
105 jan 13 21:40:49 <clamam> it depends on where the dipro fairs is
106 jan 13 21:40:58 <El-Kodar> ok : /
107 jan 13 21:41:05 <clamam> in Limburg it is dutch
108 jan 13 21:41:09 <El-Kodar> I'll wait to a french or language dipro
109 jan 13 21:41:15 <El-Kodar> or english
110 jan 13 21:41:38 <clamam> but hter are always a couple af vistors that speak french or italian or....
111 jan 13 21:41:48 <mimor> k I'm back
112 jan 13 21:42:12 <JanC> sometimes a small number of French-speaking visitors show up at Dipro fairs in Flanders, but not many
113 jan 13 21:42:22 <clamam> last year we had a volunteer that spoke only spanish and was learning dutch
114 jan 13 21:42:24 <JanC> not sure if there is still a Dipro fair in Charleroi?
115 jan 13 21:42:54 <JanC> ah, yes, on 20/3
116 jan 13 21:42:59 <jean7491> Dipro computer fair Charleroi, 20/03/2011 , Palais des Expo Charleroi (Avenue de l'Europe 21)
117 jan 13 21:43:29 <El-Kodar> i'll ask to the charleroi's hackerspace if they wants to visit it
118 jan 13 21:44:00 * massimo21 (~massimo21@91.176.44.137) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
119 jan 13 21:44:26 * massimo21 est parti (Remote host closed the connection)
120 jan 13 21:45:21 <JanC> jean7491: I think Rami is organising the booth at that fair, right?
121 jan 13 21:46:07 <jean7491> i hope, ...
122 jan 13 21:46:33 <jean7491> he organize it with a few local lug's
123 jan 13 21:46:45 * massimo21 (~massimo21@91.176.44.137) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
124 jan 13 21:47:01 * massimo21 (~massimo21@91.176.44.137) a quitté #ubuntu-be
125 jan 13 21:47:05 * massimo21 (~massimo21@91.176.44.137) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
126 jan 13 21:47:18 <jean7491> item #3 dipro computer fair ghent 30/01/2011: started today,
127 jan 13 21:47:25 <jean7491> mimor ?
128 jan 13 21:47:40 <mimor> :)
129 jan 13 21:47:50 <mimor> has everyone seen the mail from kenneth?
130 jan 13 21:48:09 <woutervddn> I've seen it..
131 jan 13 21:49:42 <JanC> I will maybe be there, but prefer somebody from Ghent to coordinate... ;)
132 jan 13 21:49:49 <jean7491> yes, but 2 questions: 1. mimor , can you coordinate ? 2. who is volunteer ?
133 jan 13 21:50:00 <JanC> especially as I have to organise FOSDEM booth the next weekend
134 jan 13 21:50:38 <mimor> I have no idea what to do to coordinate
135 jan 13 21:50:58 <mimor> I'm also not 100% fond of the idea to coordinate
136 jan 13 21:51:04 <mimor> I'm in the middle of my exams right now
137 jan 13 21:52:17 <mimor> is there someone else willing to do it?
138 jan 13 21:52:25 <mimor> I can help out... that's for sure
139 jan 13 21:52:39 <mimor> is there some page on what to do to coordinate?
140 jan 13 21:53:10 <mimor> jean7491 JanC: ^^^
141 jan 13 21:53:11 <FrankVanDamme> mimor: you can base yourself on existing wiki pages and mailinglist conversations about eg the fair in Leuven
142 jan 13 21:53:35 <mimor> but I guess I'll need to contact the fair organisation
143 jan 13 21:53:37 <JanC> coordinate = make sure tehre are volunteers, that equipment will be there, etc.
144 jan 13 21:53:57 <JanC> mimor: no, me or jean7491 contact Dipro normally
145 jan 13 21:54:12 <mimor> ok
146 jan 13 21:54:22 <mimor> then, the only people sure to help out are: me
147 jan 13 21:54:23 <mimor> :s
148 jan 13 21:54:24 <JanC> just let us know when everything is okay
149 jan 13 21:54:36 <FrankVanDamme> I'd say it's not very hard (hold wood I haven't forgotten anything for sunday ;) )
150 jan 13 21:54:44 <mimor> I can send mails to the ML to ask for volunteers
151 jan 13 21:55:10 <jean7491> yes, good idea
152 jan 13 21:55:12 <FrankVanDamme> and keepa wiki page about the event up to date. it's a really handy tool to organize things.
153 jan 13 21:55:14 <JanC> mimor: also to people on the "map", and mayeb ask on the Dutch forum, etc.
154 jan 13 21:55:25 <mimor> ok ^^
155 jan 13 21:55:27 <mimor> I'm on it
156 jan 13 21:55:31 <mimor> creating takslist
157 jan 13 21:55:51 <JanC> mimor: also, ask Kenny about a list of previous volunteers maybe
158 jan 13 21:55:51 <mimor> mailinglist, dutch forums & supportmap will be asked
159 jan 13 21:56:02 <mimor> good idea JanC
160 jan 13 21:56:21 <JanC> e.g. his friend who comes often might be able to come
161 jan 13 21:57:06 <jean7491> mimor : i'll send you a few tips (from my personal experience) and other information
162 jan 13 21:57:28 <mimor> ok thx
163 jan 13 21:57:30 <mimor> then I'm in
164 jan 13 21:57:46 <mimor> I'll contact jean7491 and JanC if I found enough volunteers
165 jan 13 21:57:54 <jean7491> ok, thx
166 jan 13 21:58:03 <jean7491> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Hasselt_2011-01-23
167 jan 13 21:58:18 <jean7491> sorry wrong link !
168 jan 13 21:58:33 <jean7491> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Ghent_2011-01-31
169 jan 13 21:58:51 <jean7491> JanC : can you provide cd's and stickers “powered by ubuntu” for ghent
170 jan 13 21:59:35 <JanC> yes
171 jan 13 22:00:11 <jean7491> ok, other question for ghent ?
172 jan 13 22:01:54 <jean7491> item #4 next Dipro fair in February 2011: Kortrijk (06/02) – we start later ...
173 jan 13 22:02:03 <jean7491> item #5 other events ...
174 jan 13 22:02:12 <jean7491> digital week 2011, (28/02-05/03/2011) ...
175 jan 13 22:02:20 <jean7491> remember, everyone can take an initiative in his environment, if possible in contact with other organizations
176 jan 13 22:02:26 <jean7491> already scheduled on 03/03/2011: presentation (2 sessions) of Ubuntu in the public library - Ostend
177 jan 13 22:03:38 <jean7491> other information about the digital week ?
178 jan 13 22:05:58 <woutervddn> I've talked to the informatic department on my school but I don't think they were font of the idea..
179 jan 13 22:06:29 <woutervddn> (now trying to approach my 'I'm-font-of-linux'-docent for it..
180 jan 13 22:06:39 <jean7491> ok
181 jan 13 22:07:07 <jean7491> JanC anything about fosdem ?
182 jan 13 22:07:11 <mimor> ow
183 jan 13 22:07:26 <mimor> for the digital week, the city of ghent is also planning to do something with multiseats
184 jan 13 22:07:34 <mimor> they already have contact with Guy for that
185 jan 13 22:07:42 <mimor> but just wanting to let you know
186 jan 13 22:07:43 <mimor> :)
187 jan 13 22:07:53 <JanC> mimor: good to know
188 jan 13 22:07:59 <JanC> I'm working on a mail about FOSDEM right now
189 jan 13 22:08:20 <jean7491> ok mimor and JanC
190 jan 13 22:08:21 <JanC> we have a bigger booth than last year
191 jan 13 22:08:30 <JanC> so we need to show more ;)
192 jan 13 22:08:32 <mimor> good thing
193 jan 13 22:09:04 <mimor> will the dude be there with his arm-testbench?
194 jan 13 22:09:06 <mimor> that was awesome
195 jan 13 22:09:10 <JanC> there is this page about FOSDEM: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fosdem/2011
196 jan 13 22:09:18 <JanC> mimor: we'll see
197 jan 13 22:09:32 <mimor> k
198 jan 13 22:09:46 <jimbauwens> I'm planning on going to fosdem, but I don't know if I can help, as I'm planning to help someone make a newsarticle for a linux site
199 jan 13 22:10:16 <mimor> newsarticle for a linux site?
200 jan 13 22:10:20 <jimbauwens> for LXer.com
201 jan 13 22:10:27 <mimor> you can do that from behind the ubuntu booth ;)
202 jan 13 22:10:43 <jimbauwens> But I have to take pictures and such
203 jan 13 22:10:54 <JanC> jimbauwens: it's 2 days, and you might be able to help for some time (or fetch beer/coffee/sandwiches for the peopel at the booth, or whatever
204 jan 13 22:11:07 <jimbauwens> its my first time, and I would like to look around
205 jan 13 22:11:10 <jimbauwens> Janc: ok
206 jan 13 22:11:16 <jimbauwens> Janc: maybe =)
207 jan 13 22:11:39 <mimor> JanC: what marchandise will there be this year?
208 jan 13 22:11:55 <JanC> mimor: I hope we will have ubuntu-be t-shirts ;)
209 jan 13 22:12:04 <mimor> not sure yet?
210 jan 13 22:12:09 <mimor> on cups this year?
211 jan 13 22:12:18 <mimor> muggs
212 jan 13 22:12:34 <jean7491> as we have a lot of time before fosdem, i propose we continue with the next topic promotion !
213 jan 13 22:12:42 <JanC> I didn't order anything this year (as it's always a hassle with the credit card etc.)
214 jan 13 22:12:42 <jimbauwens> Do you need any hardware?
215 jan 13 22:13:53 <JanC> jimbauwens: probably not, but will find that out later
216 jan 13 22:13:58 <jimbauwens> ok
217 jan 13 22:14:02 <JanC> unless you have something special to show
218 jan 13 22:14:18 <jean7491> JanC can we add fosdem at the next irc meeting and continue with promotion ?
219 jan 13 22:14:25 <JanC> yes
220 jan 13 22:14:33 <jean7491> next topic # 2. Promotion
221 jan 13 22:14:35 <jimbauwens> JanC: not really
222 jan 13 22:14:38 <jimbauwens> ok
223 jan 13 22:14:46 <jean7491> item #1 t-shirts for Ubuntu-be :
224 jan 13 22:14:57 <woutervddn> yup..
225 jan 13 22:15:10 <jean7491> your update ?
226 jan 13 22:15:32 <woutervddn> I emailed to cotton-shirts.eu to ask about the price for the 9th design.
227 jan 13 22:16:00 <woutervddn> They suggested that we choose another brand (this one is also both fairtrade and green)
228 jan 13 22:16:25 <woutervddn> reason for this change was the stitching on the side of the shirts..
229 jan 13 22:16:58 <woutervddn> the shirt itself is about 0.02€ more expensive..
230 jan 13 22:18:20 <JanC> woutervddn: which design was that again?
231 jan 13 22:18:41 <woutervddn> the one with the big logo on the side..
232 jan 13 22:19:02 <woutervddn> http://ubuntu-be.org/sites/default/files/t-shirt_black-v9-be.png
233 jan 13 22:19:42 <woutervddn> and for printing we've got €11.12 per shirt (vat included) for design 9 and design 6, design 2 and 4 and 8would be €8.56
234 jan 13 22:20:00 <woutervddn> last prices include everything but the shipment.
235 jan 13 22:21:19 <JanC> woutervddn: do they understand they have to print on the side for #9 ?
236 jan 13 22:21:28 <woutervddn> yes.. :)
237 jan 13 22:21:33 <JanC> based on how many t-shirts is that price?
238 jan 13 22:21:42 <woutervddn> that's based on 100 shirts.
239 jan 13 22:22:03 <JanC> we can probably sell more than 100...?
240 jan 13 22:22:29 <JanC> OTOH, we still have to pay them up front too of course
241 jan 13 22:22:35 <woutervddn> true.
242 jan 13 22:22:59 <woutervddn> if would buy 200 shirts it was a little less expensive I think.. (I'll look it up)
243 jan 13 22:23:02 <JanC> maybe best start with 100, we're not ubuntu-fr who have 4000 people on their release parties... ;)
244 jan 13 22:23:32 <woutervddn> it's 250 when the prices 'drop' again
245 jan 13 22:23:33 <JanC> woutervddn: but 200 x 10 € is almost all money we have, I think
246 jan 13 22:24:12 <jean7491> idd
247 jan 13 22:24:21 <JanC> and I think we shouldn't invest all money in this
248 jan 13 22:24:43 <mimor> I agree
249 jan 13 22:24:43 <JanC> even if part of it will be back soon
250 jan 13 22:25:22 <jean7491> imho we should start with 100, and see later for more (eventually)
251 jan 13 22:25:25 <woutervddn> I also agree on that..
252 jan 13 22:25:48 <woutervddn> but personally 2.56 extra for the shirts means we can't make as much money out of it.
253 jan 13 22:26:12 <clamam> it's better to buy 100 t-shirts and wait until we sold enough to buy some more
254 jan 13 22:26:15 <woutervddn> so I'm not sure which one we should take.. what do you guys think?
255 jan 13 22:26:35 <JanC> we can make other designs in the future too
256 jan 13 22:26:52 <woutervddn> janc: true..
257 jan 13 22:27:14 <woutervddn> (I'm workng on a webshop for two designer girls, maybe they want to design one for us in the future..)
258 jan 13 22:27:26 <clamam> the t-shirts can evolve with ubuntu each year
259 jan 13 22:27:55 <clamam> have you thougt about the sizes of the t-shirts?
260 jan 13 22:28:12 <clamam> L, M, S, XL ??
261 jan 13 22:28:20 <massimo21> Xs
262 jan 13 22:28:22 <woutervddn> we can mix up as we want..
263 jan 13 22:28:34 <woutervddn> srr no xs
264 jan 13 22:28:35 <JanC> maybe some lady's t-shirts too?
265 jan 13 22:28:37 <woutervddn> s to xl
266 jan 13 22:28:44 <JanC> no XXL ?
267 jan 13 22:28:50 <massimo21> or XS
268 jan 13 22:28:59 <woutervddn> ow, srr for males there is an xxl
269 jan 13 22:29:03 <woutervddn> not for girls.
270 jan 13 22:29:18 <woutervddn> I'd love to see girls in an ubuntu shirt.. [eye rolling]
271 jan 13 22:29:56 <JanC> woutervddn: maybe Laura will ;)
272 jan 13 22:30:04 <woutervddn> who's laura? :p
273 jan 13 22:30:09 <clamam> Laura?
274 jan 13 22:30:14 <JanC> and Kinouchou
275 jan 13 22:30:28 <JanC> see attendance list: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fosdem/2011
276 jan 13 22:30:29 <woutervddn> we've got female ubuntu-be users? :o
277 jan 13 22:31:12 <JanC> woutervddn: yes
278 jan 13 22:31:26 <JanC> not sure if they will be at FOSDEM though
279 jan 13 22:31:38 <jean7491> wouter you wrote but personally 2.56 extra for the shirts means we can't make as much money out of it. - what do you mean ?
280 jan 13 22:31:55 <FrankVanDamme> ... if you keep the price s the same
281 jan 13 22:31:57 <JanC> well, we have to ask more to make as much money
282 jan 13 22:32:13 <woutervddn> well that I'm not sure which shirt we should take.. I'd love to here your opinion
283 jan 13 22:32:54 <jimbauwens> Offtopic: does anyone have a pogo/sheeva plug based device? Or even a Seagate freeagent dockstar?
284 jan 13 22:32:55 * mongolito404 won't be at FOSDEM, but at the Bxl Drupal Developer Days :(
285 jan 13 22:33:35 <woutervddn> -1 for mongolito404 :p
286 jan 13 22:33:55 <woutervddn> anyways, do you guys think it's worth the 2.56 extra per shirt?
287 jan 13 22:33:58 <JanC> mongolito404: those are on the same day?
288 jan 13 22:34:05 * mongolito404 plans to use Villo to visit FOSDEM anyway :D
289 jan 13 22:34:25 <mongolito404> JanC: yeah, I think the idea was to let people pick conference from both
290 jan 13 22:34:42 <woutervddn> +2 for mongolito404 (wearing an ubuntu-be shirt when transporting yourself will result in a +3)
291 jan 13 22:34:45 <JanC> they don't have a devroom anymore?
292 jan 13 22:34:55 <mongolito404> Schedule is not done yet, but I guess I'll want to attend 80-90% of the sessions on the Drupal site
293 jan 13 22:35:20 <jean7491> woutervddn : it's worth the 2.56 extra per shirt? as i'm not sure of the result of the v9, i prefer another design
294 jan 13 22:35:22 <mongolito404> After 2 years of full devroom, I think to decided to try something else
295 jan 13 22:35:37 <JanC> makes sense
296 jan 13 22:35:59 <JanC> I guess they are in different location though?
297 jan 13 22:36:01 <jean7491> wouter, what was the result of the last poll ?
298 jan 13 22:36:23 <mongolito404> JanC: Yes, not so close but I was told last week this should be doable on a bike.
299 jan 13 22:36:39 <jean7491> to all : can we continue with the topic t-shirts ?
300 jan 13 22:37:09 <mongolito404> yeah sure, sorry
301 jan 13 22:37:12 <woutervddn> 9 votes to v9, 6 votes to to v2, 3 votes for v4 and v6 and v8
302 jan 13 22:38:21 <woutervddn> v6 is also costing 2.56 more because of the print on the sleeve so I wouldn't take that one.
303 jan 13 22:38:42 <woutervddn> (designs can be viewed at: http://ubuntu-be.org/nl/content/515/shirt-selection)
304 jan 13 22:39:12 <woutervddn> mongolito404, janc, the rest, what do you think about the extra 2.56 for v9?
305 jan 13 22:39:44 <mongolito404> I voted for V9 but I don't think the design is worth 2.56€
306 jan 13 22:40:01 <jean7491> imho, the v9 needs to be reviewed by a designer (exact place of the cof), for the difference in price, i prefer the v2
307 jan 13 22:40:40 <jean7491> but the idea of v9 can be improved for the next edition
308 jan 13 22:40:47 <massimo21> i prefer v7-White
309 jan 13 22:40:50 <woutervddn> so we've got 2 no's on the v9.. anywone else?
310 jan 13 22:41:32 <massimo21> maibe it's best to do new poll without v9
311 jan 13 22:41:59 <massimo21> people ho voted V9 can change their votes
312 jan 13 22:42:12 <woutervddn> can't we just use the previous poll result then? (the last poll was the same but without v9)
313 jan 13 22:42:12 <jean7491> woutervddn : it is not "no", no opposition, but "i prefer"
314 jan 13 22:42:17 <clamam> i must go now, bye
315 jan 13 22:42:19 * clamam (~claudio@d54C1F249.access.telenet.be) a quitté #ubuntu-be
316 jan 13 22:43:10 <JanC> I don't like v9 very much (prefer v4), but I'm not exactly against it either, and many people seem to love it, so with the extra cost I'm somewhat between -0 & -1 on v9
317 jan 13 22:43:18 <woutervddn> jean7491: I designed it so my judgment isn't fair, but even I am doubting about the extra money..
318 jan 13 22:43:48 <massimo21> so new poll then?
319 jan 13 22:43:51 <woutervddn> then we have -2.5 on v9..
320 jan 13 22:44:20 <massimo21> did you count me to?
321 jan 13 22:44:20 <woutervddn> yup new poll.. :) But I wouldn't make a poll that lasts a week.. I want the shirts in belgium befor february..
322 jan 13 22:44:30 <JanC> I prefer v4 or v7 or v1 ;)
323 jan 13 22:44:54 <FrankVanDamme> I actually like v7 best... not sure if v9 is worth more
324 jan 13 22:44:56 <woutervddn> janC :p if you voted for v7 you were the only one :p
325 jan 13 22:45:12 <JanC> I probably voted v4
326 jan 13 22:45:16 <jimbauwens> Where can I find all the designs (I forgot)
327 jan 13 22:45:20 <massimo21> i made V7
328 jan 13 22:45:20 <FrankVanDamme> then again my graphical insight is pretty close to zero
329 jan 13 22:45:22 <jean7491> v4 is a copy of a previous t-shirt of canonical, ...
330 jan 13 22:45:24 <woutervddn> v7 is also 2.56 more guys, the sleeves also cost extra..
331 jan 13 22:45:32 <FrankVanDamme> http://ubuntu-be.org/nl/content/515/shirt-selection
332 jan 13 22:45:38 <woutervddn> jimbauwens here http://ubuntu-be.org/nl/content/515/shirt-selection
333 jan 13 22:46:29 <woutervddn> it's 6, 7 and 9 that are more expensive.. so I'd pull them out of the poll aswell..
334 jan 13 22:46:37 <jimbauwens> I voted for 2
335 jan 13 22:46:59 <massimo21> ok
336 jan 13 22:47:18 <woutervddn> (I like 2, but I'm not sure about the position of the logo, it appears to be to high..)
337 jan 13 22:47:53 <FrankVanDamme> in case you go for lower cost, I think v3 is still clearest and most elegant and has logo and name in the right proportion
338 jan 13 22:48:44 <jimbauwens> Its to big (in my opinion), as it sticks to much out
339 jan 13 22:48:50 <woutervddn> frankvandamme I agree with you, but for 1 reason or another it only had 1 vote.. *-)
340 jan 13 22:49:05 <massimo21> i think is isier to poll again instead to discuss it in this way
341 jan 13 22:49:28 <woutervddn> yeah, I guess you're right massimo.
342 jan 13 22:49:41 <jimbauwens> And don't forget to put the prices by the poll :p
343 jan 13 22:49:44 <JanC> more expensive because they need printing twice
344 jan 13 22:49:58 <woutervddn> janC indeed..
345 jan 13 22:50:08 <woutervddn> one last thing, for the sizes I thought 10 S, 25 M, 30 L , 10XL , 10XXL and 15 girlie shirts?
346 jan 13 22:50:52 <woutervddn> (just a quick idea.. I don't have a clue about sizes..)
347 jan 13 22:51:13 <JanC> sizes at small amounts are difficult to predict
348 jan 13 22:51:40 <mongolito404> If a remeber correctly, last year we were short on XL and XLL shirts
349 jan 13 22:51:41 <woutervddn> (our opinions about small amounts differ I guess :p)
350 jan 13 22:51:55 <woutervddn> there were shirts last year?
351 jan 13 22:52:02 <woutervddn> :o data about them?
352 jan 13 22:52:18 <massimo21> i'm keaving now
353 jan 13 22:52:24 <FrankVanDamme> most merchandising stands are first out of L's, then the rest;
354 jan 13 22:52:25 <massimo21> here you guys next week
355 jan 13 22:52:34 <woutervddn> o/
356 jan 13 22:52:36 <massimo21> good night
357 jan 13 22:52:38 <jean7491> it is easier to use a to large t-shirt than a too small !
358 jan 13 22:52:42 <jimbauwens> 'night
359 jan 13 22:52:45 * massimo21 (~massimo21@91.176.44.137) a quitté #ubuntu-be
360 jan 13 22:52:49 <mimor> night
361 jan 13 22:53:05 <woutervddn> jean7491: any idea about a better way of putting the sizes?
362 jan 13 22:55:03 <jean7491> no experience, just a personal opinion in your proposal : less medium (15) and more xl (20)
363 jan 13 22:55:36 <woutervddn> ok..
364 jan 13 22:56:41 <JanC> I think 10 S might be much
365 jan 13 22:56:53 <FrankVanDamme> probably, yes
366 jan 13 22:57:03 <FrankVanDamme> there are not so many "small males"
367 jan 13 22:57:07 <FrankVanDamme> most even wear L
368 jan 13 22:57:16 <JanC> well, some older kids maybe
369 jan 13 22:57:21 <jean7491> i understand a new poll with a limited number of design (due to price review) and a short period
370 jan 13 22:57:31 <woutervddn> so what do you think about 5S 20M 30L 20XL 10XXL
371 jan 13 22:57:41 <woutervddn> jean7491 yes, I'll put it online tonight.
372 jan 13 22:57:45 <FrankVanDamme> better
373 jan 13 22:57:54 <JanC> sounds better, yes
374 jan 13 22:57:59 <jean7491> ok
375 jan 13 22:58:11 <woutervddn> ok..
376 jan 13 22:58:17 <jean7491> we still have time to review sizes
377 jan 13 22:58:42 <jean7491> ok for t-shirts, we continue ?
378 jan 13 22:58:52 <jean7491> with nest item ?
379 jan 13 22:59:04 <woutervddn> yup..
380 jan 13 22:59:10 * woutervddn changing room
381 jan 13 22:59:27 <jean7491> item #2 promotion material for fairs/events : a few ideas ...
382 jan 13 22:59:34 <JanC> about other promo items...
383 jan 13 22:59:43 <jean7491> a few stickers “Powered by Ubuntu” should be available in every booth/event.
384 jan 13 22:59:50 <jean7491> are there other stickers or other material available by canonical ?
385 jan 13 22:59:51 <JanC> this week I received a table cloth & a banner from Canonical
386 jan 13 23:00:05 <jean7491> nice !
387 jan 13 23:00:25 <JanC> and I received the conference pack I ordered
388 jan 13 23:00:39 <JanC> I wonder if I should order CDs for FOSDEM too?
389 jan 13 23:01:03 <JanC> (maybe use part of these for fairs if needed?)
390 jan 13 23:01:31 <jean7491> JanC : can you send me pictures of the banner and table cloth, with details (size)
391 jan 13 23:01:39 <FrankVanDamme> I'll have to leave guys, need to get up early. I'll stay logged in though. catch you later (sunday eg)
392 jan 13 23:01:44 <JanC> one new thing in the conference pack is that it has lots of lanyards
393 jan 13 23:02:06 <jean7491> FrankVanDamme : bye
394 jan 13 23:02:19 <JanC> which we can distribute to several promo boxes later
395 jan 13 23:02:28 <jimbauwens> FrankVanDamme: 'night
396 jan 13 23:02:29 <jean7491> ok
397 jan 13 23:02:57 <JanC> 55 lanyards
398 jan 13 23:03:08 * wouter_vddn (~woutervdd@d54C1A7ED.access.telenet.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
399 jan 13 23:03:11 <jean7491> ok, another material : i saw an ubuntu-calendar 2011 in spanish and french
400 jan 13 23:03:16 <jean7491> sp : http://spreadubuntu.org/es/material/unusual/calendario-ubuntu-ubuntu-calendar
401 jan 13 23:03:23 <jean7491> fr : http://spreadubuntu.org/fr/material/unusual/calendrier-ubuntu-ubuntu-calendar
402 jan 13 23:03:30 <jean7491> is there a volunteer to translate the svg file in dutch ?
403 jan 13 23:04:03 * woutervddn est parti (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
404 jan 13 23:04:12 <JanC> it's just month names?
405 jan 13 23:04:37 <jean7491> yes, but in svg
406 jan 13 23:04:39 <JanC> shouldn't be difficult...
407 jan 13 23:04:40 <wouter_vddn> when must it be finished?
408 jan 13 23:05:15 <jean7491> no limit, just a goodie for the booths
409 jan 13 23:05:27 <wouter_vddn> I'll translate it.. :)
410 jan 13 23:05:38 <wouter_vddn> but then I'll have to do it tomorrow, else I'll forget..
411 jan 13 23:06:33 <JanC> :P
412 jan 13 23:06:53 <jean7491> an idea is herhaps to use colored paper (120gr sheet) to spare ink
413 jan 13 23:06:55 <JanC> don't forget the t-shirts need to be ready too ;)
414 jan 13 23:07:40 <wouter_vddn> jean7491, how would you put the white inkt on it then?
415 jan 13 23:08:05 <wouter_vddn> janc, I know ;-)
416 jan 13 23:08:06 * bbartek est parti (Quit: Ik ga weg)
417 jan 13 23:08:43 <JanC> making a version with a white background sounds more feasible then ;)
418 jan 13 23:09:09 <jean7491> with yellow writing
419 jan 13 23:09:47 <wouter_vddn> hmm.. I'll take a look at it :)
420 jan 13 23:09:54 <jimbauwens> Yelow on white?
421 jan 13 23:10:01 <jimbauwens> yellow*
422 jan 13 23:10:12 <JanC> I would just invert the purple & white or such
423 jan 13 23:10:31 <JanC> (except in the logo!)
424 jan 13 23:10:31 <wouter_vddn> janc: good idea..
425 jan 13 23:10:42 <jean7491> but to be printed on colored paper (violet)
426 jan 13 23:11:07 <JanC> you can't print lighter colours on (dark) purple paper
427 jan 13 23:11:08 <jimbauwens> I'm colorblind, so some combinations don't seem right for me :p
428 jan 13 23:11:43 <JanC> well, depends on printing technique used, but not with inkjet etc.
429 jan 13 23:12:31 <jimbauwens> How many would you need?
430 jan 13 23:12:58 <JanC> what?
431 jan 13 23:13:06 <jean7491> an alternative is to use sand colored paper (160 gr) (i have enough paper)
432 jan 13 23:13:15 <jimbauwens> Calenders
433 jan 13 23:13:25 <jean7491> with violer ink for writing
434 jan 13 23:13:28 <JanC> isn't that something peopel can print at home?
435 jan 13 23:13:31 <jean7491> violet
436 jan 13 23:14:29 <wouter_vddn> janC it could be a nice gadget..
437 jan 13 23:14:30 <jean7491> of course print at homen but needs 160 gr paper
438 jan 13 23:14:45 <wouter_vddn> quite cheap and people would use it a whole year..
439 jan 13 23:14:49 <wouter_vddn> very neat idea..
440 jan 13 23:14:55 <mongolito404> I'll go to bed. No news regarding the map, but I fixed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-belgium/+bug/684443 for the website. Also, I remind everyone interested that a) I'm available to mentor any work on the website, just ask. b) we can still open a ML for webeditors if we feel there is a need (Im starting to think there is actually a huge need for this, to encourage peopele to mail)
441 jan 13 23:16:06 <jean7491> ok, next time we will start with wiki and website !
442 jan 13 23:16:32 <wouter_vddn> ok..
443 jan 13 23:16:55 <jean7491> still about promotion ...
444 jan 13 23:17:11 <wouter_vddn> nice that that bug is gone.. ;-)
445 jan 13 23:17:15 <jean7491> About the flyers ubuntu-be a6 (2009): I expect that our stock will out/empty in june 2011 : are there ideas for a new design ?
446 jan 13 23:17:30 <mongolito404> The bug isn't "gone", I fixed it :D
447 jan 13 23:17:34 <mongolito404> good night all
448 jan 13 23:17:42 <wouter_vddn> lol that's what i meant :p
449 jan 13 23:17:44 <jean7491> good night
450 jan 13 23:17:45 <wouter_vddn> o/
451 jan 13 23:17:50 <jimbauwens> mongolito404: night
452 jan 13 23:17:51 <wouter_vddn> have an url to that jean?
453 jan 13 23:18:01 <wouter_vddn> I've never seen the flyers..
454 jan 13 23:18:13 * mongolito404 (~mongolito@83.101.32.215) a quitté #ubuntu-be
455 jan 13 23:18:18 <JanC> mongolito404: thanks for fixing!
456 jan 13 23:19:17 <jean7491> wouter : see here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial
457 jan 13 23:19:36 <JanC> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=flyer+2009.resized.jpg I guess
458 jan 13 23:19:48 <JanC> we need a new design based on the new logo & font
459 jan 13 23:20:12 <jean7491> i just launch an idea for reaction through the ml
460 jan 13 23:20:13 <wouter_vddn> I'll look in to it.. I'm getting along well with gimp lately.. :p
461 jan 13 23:20:43 <jean7491> next item #3 education – courses
462 jan 13 23:20:49 <wouter_vddn> (and other linux art programs)
463 jan 13 23:21:00 <jean7491> for information, a course linux-2 start in ostend (deavondschool.be) on 25/01/2011
464 jan 13 23:21:44 <jean7491> to continue topic # 3. Update Wiki : are there suggestions or comments
465 jan 13 23:21:51 <JanC> and one in Hageland too,a round the same time
466 jan 13 23:22:18 <JanC> no comments/suggestions for now
467 jan 13 23:22:56 <jean7491> topic# 4. Update web-site : you already read from mongolito404 , other comment ?
468 jan 13 23:23:10 <wouter_vddn> social networks..
469 jan 13 23:23:30 <wouter_vddn> since we have a twitter and a facebook account we might want to blend those in with the site..
470 jan 13 23:23:44 <wouter_vddn> I think both the social account and the website can benefit from it..
471 jan 13 23:23:56 <JanC> we also have an identi.ca account etc.
472 jan 13 23:24:03 <JanC> or group
473 jan 13 23:24:11 <wouter_vddn> janC: I read about that, but didn't it say it was unused?
474 jan 13 23:24:22 <jean7491> for me ok for both
475 jan 13 23:24:54 <jean7491> btw i forget to ask clamam to update the facebook page with events
476 jan 13 23:25:24 <JanC> maybe we need automatic updates ;)
477 jan 13 23:25:53 <wouter_vddn> can that be done?
478 jan 13 23:26:02 <JanC> everything can be done
479 jan 13 23:26:24 <wouter_vddn> on facebook you can't do everything you want :p
480 jan 13 23:26:47 <wouter_vddn> but it's definitely something we should look at..
481 jan 13 23:26:51 <JanC> if you can post messages,you can also automate it ;)
482 jan 13 23:27:14 <JanC> anyway, not an issue for this meeting
483 jan 13 23:27:22 <jean7491> i'll mail tomorrow to clamam for (manual) update
484 jan 13 23:27:31 <jean7491> next topic # 5. things living in the mailing list and others questions not in the agenda ?
485 jan 13 23:27:42 <wouter_vddn> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-belgium/+bug/399194 is this bug fixed allready? (contact the events team)
486 jan 13 23:28:53 <JanC> wouter_vddn: to be honest, I'd like to end the meeting soon ;)
487 jan 13 23:29:02 <wouter_vddn> sorry.. :p
488 jan 13 23:29:11 <jean7491> next irc meeting ? on thursday 20/01/2011 at 21 h.
489 jan 13 23:29:20 <wouter_vddn> good for me..
490 jan 13 23:29:23 <JanC> ok
491 jan 13 23:29:35 <jean7491> end of meeting - thanks to all for your participation, have a good night !
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