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   2 (14:02:25) Le sujet de #ubuntu-be est :  http://ubuntu-be.org | get support at #ubuntu-nl, #ubuntu-fr, #ubuntu-de, #ubuntu | IRC meeting on Wednesday 2009-06-10 at 21h (UTC+2), see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/IrcMeetings for agenda and moreinformation
   3 (20:59:58) jean7491: good evening everybody, who is here for the meeting?
   4 (21:01:03) Wamukota: evening... i'm here
   5 (21:03:22) JackJill
   6 [i=50c8f8cf@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b1e65710398a175f] a rejoint le
   7 salon.
   8 (21:07:45) jean7491: so i am not alone !
   9 (21:08:34) Wamukota: no, on peut m?me faire le meeting en Fran?ais LOL
  10 (21:10:21) JackJill a quitté le salon
  11 (21:10:54) Gh0sty: are we fast or too late? :p
  12 (21:11:11) jean7491: just on time!
  13 (21:11:41) JackJill
  14 [i=50c8f8c9@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-86ebb4e2bbd20df5] a rejoint le
  15 salon.
  16 (21:11:46) Gh0sty: eerst nog boterhammeke smeren, brb :p
  17 (21:11:54) Wamukota: nr. 3 has arrived. Evening Gh0sty
  18 (21:12:01) jean7491: smakelijk
  19 (21:12:10) JackJill: 3 and counting
  20 (21:13:02) jean7491: Jackjill : what is your location ?
  21 (21:13:24) JackJill: Belgique
  22 (21:13:43) jean7491: good start ...
  23 (21:13:58) JackJill: Even better ... Zottegem  ;-) 
  24 (21:14:08) Wamukota: nog nen West-vlaming ....
  25 (21:14:27) JackJill: Nie vloeken he!
  26 (21:14:40) JackJill: Zottegem is Oost-Vlaanderen
  27 (21:14:52) Gh0sty: what?
  28 (21:14:57) Gh0sty: no kidding
  29 (21:14:57) Wamukota: ach, sinds lang al? LOL
  30 (21:14:59) jean7491: Oostend, Brugge, Zottegem, en Gh0sty Gent (?)
  31 (21:15:00) Gh0sty: where?
  32 (21:15:09) Gh0sty: nee idem met JackJill :p
  33 (21:15:44) Gh0sty: en Wamukota NEE dat is niet w-vl! :p
  34 (21:15:56) Gh0sty: tussen gent en aalst
  35 (21:16:00) Wamukota: sorry guys ...
  36 (21:16:20) JackJill: Vlaamse Ardennen
  37 (21:16:45) Gh0sty: geluk kan schuilen in kleine dingen zoals dezen
  38 boterham met konfituur!
  39 (21:17:03) Gh0sty: moet al wel een jaar geleden zijn dat ik nog
  40 konfituur gegeten heb :|
  41 (21:17:15) ***JackJill watertanden
  42 (21:17:41) nightrid3r: eeeeww konfituur van een jaar oud  :( 
  43 (21:17:41) Gh0sty: sinds mijn ma licht suikerziek is komt hier nog maar
  44 weinig konfituur in huis :/
  45 (21:18:07) Wamukota: me also diabetis type 2
  46 (21:18:13) JackJill: Leuke uitvinding: confituur voor diabeet
  47 (21:18:15) Gh0sty: *por* JanC
  48 (21:18:30) Gh0sty: mja maar tis toch niet hetzelfde als materne :P
  49 (21:21:36) OmegaII: Gh0sty wist ge dat er konfituur zonder suiker is  ;) 
  50 , tenzij ze geen fruit mag eten tous court :x
  51 (21:21:46) OmegaII: smaak is't zelfde
  52 (21:21:59) Gh0sty: das wat JackJill net ook zei
  53 (21:22:05) Gh0sty: maar ik zeg dat normale beter is :P
  54 (21:22:30) Gh0sty: want die suikervervangers ... maakt uwe konfituur
  55 harder, maar soit, we zijn hier niet om over konfituur te zeveren :P
  56 (21:22:30) OmegaII: kk , over gelezen sorry  :) 
  57 (21:22:34) Gh0sty: ubuntu dan maar ... ? :p
  58 (21:22:59) jean7491: OmegaII : where are from ? are you here for the
  59 meeting ?
  60 (21:23:00) JackJill: Is dat ook een merk van confituur?
  61 (21:23:01) OmegaII: doe maar I'll be silent again ^^
  62 (21:23:22) Gh0sty: :P
  63 (21:23:25) OmegaII: No jean7491 I was looking for help, just idlinghere,
  64 so I'll be silent again, I had no clue there was a meeting sorry
  65 (21:23:28) Gh0sty: hmm nice promo idea
  66 (21:23:32) Gh0sty: ubuntu confituur :P
  67 (21:23:48) Wamukota: OmegaII, what is your question
  68 (21:23:55) jean7491: meeting is not about confituur !
  69 (21:23:58) Wamukota: don't wory for the meeting
  70 (21:24:11) Gh0sty: Remember IRC meeting today Wednesday 10/06/2009 at 21
  71 h. on #ubuntu-be --
  72 (21:24:11) Gh0sty: irc.freenode.net
  73 (21:24:11) Gh0sty: See agenda in wiki
  74 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/IrcMeetings
  75 (21:24:41) Wamukota: OmegaII, you are even welcome to participate in the
  76 meeting
  77 (21:24:47) OmegaII: I'm still investigating Wamukota, still figuring out
  78 if it's a software or a hardware problem. So I'll ask it later on  :) 
  79 (21:24:48) OmegaII: Thx  :) 
  80 (21:25:14) Wamukota: OmegaII, oke
  81 (21:25:34) Wamukota: jean7491, are we ready to start?
  82 (21:25:42) jean7491: topic 1. is IRC meeting as communication channel of
  83 the Be LoCo Team    
  84 (21:26:19) jean7491: we started regular irc meetings as a way to
  85 exchange information and views about subject related  to   ubuntu-be  
  86 (21:26:41) jean7491: it is not easy to find the day and hour for the
  87 meeting that everybody is happy with.
  88 (21:27:12) Wamukota: Why not use the Ubuntu LoCo Team Forums
  89 (http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=183)
  90 (21:27:28) Wamukota: that way we can communicate in a off-line way
  91 (21:27:40) Wamukota: and discuss the results in the weekly chat
  92 (21:27:55) jean7491: but only a small group (today a very small)is
  93 taking part or following the meeting.
  94 (21:28:23) Wamukota: well yes, and by using the forum, we can have more
  95 info available during the time of a week
  96 (21:28:51) jean7491: i don't know this forum
  97 (21:28:59) Wamukota: just have a look
  98 (21:29:13) Wamukota: many loco teams world wide have a forum there
  99 (21:29:32) Gh0sty: im fine with the day and hour but if I don't open my
 100 mail on the right (like today) it might slip my short memory span ...
 101 (21:29:48) jean7491: with the system of irc meeting : for who is not
 102 present at the meeting, we publish in the mailing list a report, as in
 103 the wiki, with the log. we can assume that everyone has the possibility
 104 to read the report in the mailing list and the wiki.  
 105 (21:30:12) Gh0sty: oh and i read my backlogs usually however the one
 106 from last week was big :p
 107 (21:30:43) mimor: hello all, sorry I'm late
 108 (21:31:07) Wamukota: no props, we started late anyhow
 109 (21:31:55) jean7491: there is very limited reaction to the meeting
 110 reports, and i am optimist
 111 (21:32:56) Wamukota: you could deduct from the response that few are
 112 interested
 113 (21:33:16) Wamukota: or that we are not talking about the stuff they are
 114 interested in
 115 (21:33:45) jean7491: perhaps
 116 (21:34:16) mimor: The meeting-reports are a big help
 117 (21:34:29) mimor: as I sometimes miss a meeting, I can easily catch up
 118 (21:34:43) Wamukota: although this week there was some activity on the
 119 maillist with new volunteers proposing to assist during Dpro's
 120 (21:35:03) Wamukota: so there is interest, but not for this kind of
 121 meetings apparantly
 122 (21:35:20) JanC: most people don't have the time to attend regular
 123 meetings and be active all the time, I fear...
 124 (21:35:42) mimor: This meeting is actually more popular for people
 125 supporting ubuntu-be as a total, whilst others on the mailing list are
 126 more bystanders I guess
 127 (21:35:46) Wamukota: yes, and we all have a family, and kids, ....
 128 (21:36:03) JanC: even if they might want to help for occasional activities
 129 (21:36:06) mimor: JanC: that's nothing to fear off  ;)  (don't be scared)
 130 (21:36:14) jean7491: or 1 meeting each  week is too much
 131 (21:36:37) mimor: To me, the things are fine in the way they are now
 132 (21:36:47) Wamukota: we could make a meeting 'on call' with a default of
 133 one per month for example
 134 (21:36:56) JanC: jean7491: obviously it is too much for many people, but
 135 nobody has to attend every meeting
 136 (21:36:57) mimor: one less wouldn't be enough on dates befor some event
 137 (21:37:24) JanC: assigning special meetings about 1 specific topic might
 138 be a good idea though
 139 (21:38:12) mimor: jup, but they shouldn't replace the fixed-date meeting
 140 (21:38:13) jean7491: JanC did you follow since the beginning ?
 141 (21:38:33) JanC: I've read most, I think  ツ
 142 (21:38:49) mimor: hmmm... confituur  ;-)  (I've read it all)
 143 (21:38:56) Wamukota: lol
 144 (21:38:57) Gh0sty: LOL
 145 (21:39:03) Gh0sty: shtttt :P
 146 (21:39:05) JackJill: lol
 147 (21:39:33) mimor: who would like less meetings?
 148 (21:39:49) JackJill est désormais connu sous le nom de materne
 149 (21:40:04) mimor: I prefer attending as much meetings as I can, and read
 150 the reports for those I missed
 151 (21:40:21) mib_o3l7qm
 152 [i=51530769@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2eae2615a8fa1aa1] a rejoint le
 153 salon.
 154 (21:40:32) Gh0sty: I read the list as well, but don't always respond
 155 (21:40:43) mimor: There's nothing to respond  :) 
 156 (21:40:48) jean7491: as we are never more than 6 or 7 in the meeting, it
 157 can not be consider as a communication channel of the Be LoCo Team !
 158 (21:40:55) Gh0sty: like with the dipro stuff is all fine, but it's not
 159 like I plan stuff like that 3 months beforehand
 160 (21:41:01) mimor: Its a F11 button for the memory
 161 (21:41:02) Wamukota: correct jean7491
 162 (21:41:39) mimor: But it's still nice to put things on order
 163 (21:41:40) Wamukota: if you count the number of members and those who
 164 attend, few are intereseted
 165 (21:41:52) mimor: or few have the time
 166 (21:42:08) Julius [n=julius@unaffilated/julius] a rejoint le salon.
 167 (21:42:08) mimor: but those who don't have the time to attend it every
 168 week, can still join whenever they want
 169 (21:42:12) JanC: jean7491: it is one communication channel
 170 (21:42:19) JanC: but not the only one
 171 (21:42:20) Wamukota: but look at the list of users now on-line, and not
 172 10 are taking part
 173 (21:42:23) Julius: Hello
 174 (21:42:36) Wamukota: hoi Juje007
 175 (21:42:44) Wamukota: hoi Julius
 176 (21:42:47) JanC: jean7491: the mailing list is also there
 177 (21:42:52) mimor: when I first joined, there were only 3 people taking
 178 part  ;) 
 179 (21:43:13) Julius: I'm a member of "Sambrelug", a LUG here in Wallonie
 180  :)  I've just checked my mail and see that there's an irc meeting here.
 181 My english is not really good but... I'm here  :) 
 182 (21:43:16) mimor: So I guess it needs to grow a little bit
 183 (21:43:31) Wamukota: JanC, for a newcomer a forum is probably more
 184 appriate than an IRC channel
 185 (21:43:44) mimor: Julius: You're welcome. If there's something that you
 186 don't understand, you can still ask
 187 (21:43:53) Wamukota: and later he/she will join us here
 188 (21:44:01) JanC: Julius: if there is a word you don't know in English,
 189 feel free to throw in French words, several people can translate if
 190 needed   ;) 
 191 (21:44:02) jean7491: welcome julius
 192 (21:44:07) mimor: Wamukota; JanC: I agree
 193 (21:44:43) mimor: A forum would be nice..
 194 (21:44:45) Julius: JanC: good idea  :)  thanks... I think you can remember
 195 me ? I'm the contact you had for the Ubuntu 8.04 cd's in Wallonie. You
 196 sent me a part of the cd's that were sent to the Loco
 197 (21:45:04) JanC: Wamukota: maybe, if you want to take care of it (e.g.
 198 forward ideas, issues, etc. to these IRC-meetings or the mailing list)
 199 (21:45:10) Wamukota: mimor, have a look at
 200 http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=183
 201 (21:45:19) Wamukota: thay have loco forums there
 202 (21:46:01) JanC: Julius: I remember giving CDs to liezie, who brought
 203 them to Brussels, for somebody in Wallonia  ツ
 204 (21:46:01) mimor: k
 205 (21:46:06) jean7491: i presume we can not say more about our 1st topic
 206 IRC meeting, and the arrival of Julius is a good transition to the 2d topic
 207 (21:46:32) jean7491: 2. Relation with other LUG's and computer clubs
 208 (21:46:40) Julius: JanC: yes that's it... I received that in
 209 Louvain-la-Neuve and bring it with me in Sambreville where some guys of
 210 the NamurLUG and the FSUGAr took some of it
 211 (21:46:56) JanC: oh, right, there was one more step  :P
 212 (21:46:57) Gh0sty: just a last tought: maybe not such a bad idea only
 213 irc meeting every couple of weeks?
 214 (21:47:04) Julius: jean7491: I've just answered to your mail  ;) 
 215 (21:47:37) mimor: first toppic wasn't closed yet I guess?
 216 (21:47:38) jean7491: ok, received but not yet read
 217 (21:47:57) mimor: Will there be anything changed on the meetings? will
 218 there be a LoCo forum?
 219 (21:48:00) Wamukota: I have one person that responded to my request on
 220 Seniorennet and became member of the maillist
 221 (21:48:36) jean7491: wait for topic 2,
 222 (21:48:39) JanC: Wamukota: would you like to set up and help "run" an
 223 ubuntu-be locoteam forum?
 224 (21:48:53) Wamukota: no problem JanC , count me in
 225 (21:48:59) JanC: meaning that you forward interesting things to the
 226 mailing list?
 227 (21:49:12) Wamukota: fine, i'll be the gobetween then
 228 (21:49:33) JanC: because i don't have the time / motivation to
 229 frequently visit those forums   ;) 
 230 (21:49:37) Wamukota: i can mod the forum and pass all interesting data
 231 from and to the maillist
 232 (21:49:58) JanC: and I'm pretty sure Gh0sty & some others here don't either
 233 (21:50:06) mimor: I'm also a volunteer the forum if needed
 234 (21:50:18) Julius: I'm sorry, I didn't see the beginning of the
 235 discussion but what do you want to improve ? Do the loco want to be in
 236 touch with "not-geek" or what ? Because I think the main difficulty for
 237 people finding help on Ubuntu-be is the language
 238 (21:50:29) Julius: (on the ML I guess...)
 239 (21:50:29) Gh0sty: hmmm I have been looking for some forum which
 240 includes mailinglist in the past, did not find anything though :/
 241 (21:50:39) Gh0sty: had some similar idea for ugov
 242 (21:50:47) JanC: Julius: ubuntu-be isn't really about "technical help"
 243 (21:51:06) Filbert a quitté le salon (quit: Remote closed the connection)
 244 (21:51:10) JanC: Gh0sty: ping me after the meeting   ;) 
 245 (21:51:19) Gh0sty: Running a simplemachines forum for a long time ...  :) 
 246 (21:51:25) Gh0sty: or better several
 247 (21:51:44) JanC: Wamukota: it would also be good to forward important
 248 things from the ML to the forums then etc.
 249 (21:52:01) JanC: like requests for help, reports, etc.
 250 (21:52:27) Wamukota: JanC, AFAIK you should make the request and add my
 251 name to the list of mods (see
 252 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=290685)
 253 (21:52:43) JanC: okay, I'll look into it
 254 (21:53:04) jean7491: Julius : the 1st topic was about improving the irc
 255 meeting as communication channel of the LoCo team (frequency, topics, ...)
 256 (21:53:09) Wamukota: and I'll do the rest then
 257 (21:54:10) mib_o3l7qm a quitté le salon (quit: "http://www.mibbit.com
 258 ajax IRC Client")
 259 (21:54:22) Julius: jean7491: ok... I will read the report. np
 260 (21:54:49) JanC: Wamukota: it would also mostly be about peopel asking
 261 Belgian-organisation-specific things (for technical support the nl/fr
 262 forums are better in general)
 263 (21:55:33) Wamukota: oke. only Belgian Loco stuff of course
 264 (21:55:43) JanC: and I think language isn't really a problem for you  ツ
 265 (21:55:53) Wamukota: no, can be Nl - Fr or En
 266 (21:57:49) JanC: *sigh*, now I have to find my ubuntuforums account...   :P
 267 (21:57:57) Wamukota: hihihi
 268 (21:58:26) JanC: okay, it's in Revelation (my "password database")
 269 (21:58:32) Wamukota: and we must also adapt the data in the forum column
 270 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamList
 271 (21:58:59) Wamukota: there are 2 forums mentioned there, but they are
 272 not loco oriented
 273 (21:59:13) JanC: well, add the new forum to that
 274 (21:59:58) JanC: there is some overlap between LoCos
 275 (22:01:07) JanC: anyway, next topic   ;) 
 276 (22:01:20) jean7491: about irc meetings, any change ?
 277 (22:01:35) jean7491: periodicity? topics?
 278 (22:02:00) Wamukota: do we change the frequency during the summer hollidays?
 279 (22:02:48) Wamukota: if we go one every 2 weeks in July and August we'll
 280 experience if that works for the rest of the year
 281 (22:03:51) jean7491: suggestion : no change in june and 1/2weeks in
 282 july-august. later ?
 283 (22:04:07) Wamukota: fine for me
 284 (22:04:15) Gh0sty: y
 285 (22:04:28) materne: ok
 286 (22:04:59) jean7491: JanC?
 287 (22:05:06) jean7491: mimor?
 288 (22:05:10) Juje007 a quitté le salon (quit: Connection timed out)
 289 (22:05:46) JanC: fine for me  ツ
 290 (22:06:11) jean7491: topic 2. Relation with other LUG's and computer
 291 clubs    
 292 (22:07:04) Wamukota: I have one person that responded to my request on
 293 Seniorennet and became member of the maillist
 294 (22:07:10) Wamukota: for the rest nothing
 295 (22:07:53) jean7491: anything about lugs? i proposed Julius to exchange
 296 information ubuntu-be - sambrelug, and perhaps cooperate
 297 (22:08:33) Gh0sty: ugov is present ^^
 298 (22:08:52) jean7491: for more activities in the french-speaking part of be.
 299 (22:08:58) Gh0sty: but it's not like all of our members are ubuntu fans,
 300 I usually forward stuff :p
 301 (22:09:34) jean7491: in 2 directions?
 302 (22:09:38) materne: What about Zeus, Lugwv?
 303 (22:09:58) mimor: jean7491: ok (little late)
 304 (22:10:01) Gh0sty: I forward meetings and stuff to our mailinglist
 305 (22:10:10) Gh0sty: it's for them to decide if they are interested :p
 306 (22:10:26) Julius: I answered that all parts os Sambrelug likes Ubuntu
 307 and that's a good idea to promote it. That's already what we're doing
 308 but we've never been yet in an "Computer event" (dipro)
 309 (22:10:30) Gh0sty: hmm Zeus ... trying to get some contacts in there
 310 like *forever*
 311 (22:10:45) Gh0sty: from someone I heard most members of zeus are
 312 actually W-vl :p
 313 (22:10:56) Gh0sty: and lugwv not sure if that still exists? :/
 314 (22:11:17) JanC: materne: lugwv is mostly dead
 315 (22:11:46) JanC: except for #lugwv which has 2.5 people who still talk
 316 sometimes
 317 (22:11:48) Gh0sty: even though there exists another alternative around
 318 w-vl  :) 
 319 (22:11:48) materne: Zeus == lugwv
 320 (22:12:18) JanC: materne: no, it's not
 321 (22:12:25) Julius: Do Ubuntu-be have a list of event where it can be
 322 interested to have someone who represent Ubuntu ? Maybe this
 323 informations can help LUG's to focus on activities where they can take part
 324 (22:12:49) JanC: Julius: yes, on the wiki
 325 (22:13:10) JanC: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/FutureEvents
 326 (22:13:27) Wamukota: and also
 327 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs
 328 (22:13:49) JanC: Wamukota: the other one is better (more general)
 329 (22:14:00) JanC: even if more events could be added   ;) 
 330 (22:15:05) jean7491: Julius on 11/10 a Dirpo fair in Charleroi
 331 (22:15:08) Julius: That's a really good point. I think Sambrelug can
 332 take part in this.
 333 (22:16:00) Julius: jean7491: yes, we can go there. And there's a new LUG
 334 in Charleroi so I think we can be both there
 335 (22:16:57) Julius: (I'm posting something on our forum about that)
 336 (22:17:47) jean7491: Julius, we can later consider what we can do,  ...
 337 i probably will contact the ubuntu support points from charleroi area to
 338 try to find volunteers ...
 339 (22:18:23) jean7491: starting in september
 340 (22:18:34) JanC: Sambrelug is from Charleroi, right?
 341 (22:18:48) JanC: or from Sambreville?
 342 (22:18:57) JanC: or something like that ツ
 343 (22:19:20) Julius: Sambreville
 344 (22:19:28) Julius: It's between Namur and Charleroi
 345 (22:20:17) Julius: Here's the website of the new LUG of Charleroi :
 346 http://clic.tuxfamily.org/
 347 (22:20:54) Julius: DO y
 348 (22:21:19) Julius: Do you think It will be possible to receive CD's for
 349 this event ?
 350 (22:21:35) Gh0sty: if it's really new please send it to this site:
 351 http://www.belgian-lugs.be/
 352 (22:21:39) Julius: I think we can print the other things by ourselves
 353 (22:23:34) jean7491: cd's likely available, for other things have a look
 354 in
 355 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs#Print%20Documents%20&%20Presentations
 356 to find promo things in fr.
 357 (22:24:44) jean7491: anything else about contact with lugs ?
 358 (22:25:06) jean7491: if not topic 3. Other events
 359 (22:25:41) Wamukota: no input from me for topic 3
 360 (22:26:16) mimor: nope
 361 (22:27:39) jean7491: dipro fairs are in  
 362 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs    -  due to the 2
 363 holiday months, volunteers for the 2 first fairs in Ghent and Antwerp
 364 should add their names in the wiki before end of june.
 365 (22:28:06) Gh0sty: I will add my name for ghent when I am sure I can
 366 make it :p
 367 (22:28:12) Gh0sty: which is in ... 2 months  ;) 
 368 (22:29:26) mimor: same for me
 369 (22:29:39) mimor: I'll go on holiday... but I'm not sure when ><
 370 (22:29:59) jean7491: when in september ?
 371 (22:30:35) mimor: not sure ><
 372 (22:31:21) Julius: sorry but I really have to go. Be sure Sambrelug will
 373 help more Ubuntu-be in the future. You can have a look at the discussion
 374 we will have here if you want :
 375 http://sambrelug.lybrafox.be/fluxbb/viewtopic.php?pid=7911 (in french)
 376 (22:31:31) mimor: But I'll let you know Whenever I can join
 377 (22:31:45) Julius: I will get you informed about this by the ML
 378 (22:32:23) jean7491: Julius, you can read the report of the meeting in
 379 the mailing list or in the wiki
 380 (22:32:38) jean7491: Julius, bye;-)
 381 (22:33:07) Julius: ok thanks. Good night
 382 (22:33:08) Julius a quitté le salon (quit: "Lost terminal")
 383 (22:33:36) Wamukota: I'm off also
 384 (22:33:53) Wamukota: I'll read the rest on the maillist and on the wiki
 385 (22:33:53) mimor: ok bye
 386 (22:33:56) Wamukota: cu all
 387 (22:34:05) Wamukota a quitté le salon (quit: "Tot laters")
 388 (22:34:29) jean7491: about the fairs, if nobody else appears, i will
 389 take the lead in a'pen and for the 1st time in hasselt, but not in ghent
 390 (22:35:39) jean7491: next event 19/09 software freedom day - if
 391 volunteers appear willing to do something, it is very good, but i don't
 392 see a big event for ubuntu-be
 393 (22:36:46) Gh0sty: dno if i'm not mistaken some guy from thinkwize was
 394 running around in de veldstraat in gent dressed as pinguin handing out
 395 ubuntu cds :p
 396 (22:37:02) mimor: :D
 397 (22:37:20) mimor: omg, why didn't I see that?
 398 (22:37:29) Gh0sty: at least that was last year or the year before for
 399 software freedom day
 400 (22:37:49) jean7491: what is thinkwize ?
 401 (22:38:01) Gh0sty: some IT thingy in gent somewhere
 402 (22:38:09) JanC: company that makes & sells an open source CMS written
 403 in Java
 404 (22:38:16) Gh0sty: http://www.think-wize.com/
 405 (22:38:22) JanC: DaisyCMS or something like that
 406 (22:38:55) JanC: or is that another company
 407 (22:39:15) Gh0sty: and I remember 3 years ago or something they also
 408 projected the history of free and open source in de plateau cinema room
 409 of the gent university
 410 (22:39:28) JanC: it's another company
 411 (22:39:30) Gh0sty: could be I don't know exactly what they do
 412 (22:39:36) Gh0sty: they do something open source ;p
 413 (22:41:22) jean7491: we will see if something else happens? i will try
 414 something in oostende bibliotheek, but small event
 415 (22:42:02) jean7491: mimor, don't forget the release party 21/11
 416 (22:42:20) mimor: I won't
 417 (22:42:21) JanC: 21/11 is fixed as a date?
 418 (22:42:32) mimor: yes it is
 419 (22:42:32) hfsdo a quitté le salon (quit: "Leaving")
 420 (22:42:47) mimor: But you'll see things moving on the mailinglist
 421 (22:43:23) jean7491: 21/11 was proposed last meeting report, with no
 422 objection
 423 (22:44:08) mimor: its 21/11, But I'm still looking for some other place
 424 to host it
 425 (22:44:27) jean7491: ok
 426 (22:44:48) JanC: mimor: try the cybercafé near the Heuvelpoort?
 427 (22:45:09) mimor: Outpost
 428 (22:45:12) mimor: I'll ask
 429 (22:45:15) JanC: although I quite liked the place it was last time
 430 (22:45:22) JanC: good food  ツ
 431 (22:45:33) JanC: that won't be true for the Outpost  :P
 432 (22:45:36) mimor: me too, but a little classy & not enough power-supply's
 433 (22:45:51) JanC: mimor: eh?
 434 (22:46:06) JanC: I had several power strips with me if you needed them?
 435 (22:46:34) mimor: There are only 2 points to tap them off
 436 (22:46:42) JanC: so what?
 437 (22:46:56) jean7491: mimor, we will see when you know more about
 438 possibilities
 439 (22:47:00) JanC: unless we blow a fuse, that doesn't matter  :P
 440 (22:47:38) jean7491: anything else about other events ?
 441 (22:47:42) Gh0sty: electricians present ;p
 442 (22:47:45) mimor: It'll be the same place, but I'm just looking for a
 443 better alternative
 444 (22:47:57) materne a quitté le salon ("l8ter guys")
 445 (22:48:10) Gh0sty: well on that i'd like to talk you after this meeting ;p
 446 (22:48:48) mimor: ok
 447 (22:49:37) jean7491: about events and the events team
 448 (22:49:37) mimor: but I won't stay long
 449 (22:50:00) jean7491: about the missions of the ubuntu-be events-team 
 450 https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-be-events, there were no reaction to the
 451 report of the last irc meeting: can we consider it as agreed ?  
 452 (22:51:03) mimor: yup
 453 (22:51:09) mimor: *yes
 454 (22:51:22) Gh0sty: k
 455 (22:52:35) jean7491: the events team (+ missions) should be added in the
 456 wiki Responsibility (who is who)
 457 (22:53:13) mimor: report a bug?
 458 (22:53:42) jean7491: or direct change in the wiki
 459 (22:54:56) jean7491: as part of the wiki update in page
 460 belgianteam/responsibility
 461 (22:56:18) jean7491: JanC?
 462 (22:57:20) jean7491: no remark?
 463 (22:58:48) jean7491: agreed as result of a silence procedure
 464 (22:59:12) mimor: jean7491: i'm sorry, but I'm off
 465 (22:59:26) mimor: have to get "some" sleep (have to catch up a lot of sleep)
 466 (23:00:08) jean7491: ok mimor, bye, who remains for last topic 4.
 467 Promotion material  ???
 468 (23:01:47) jean7491: ok, then i work on it alone ...
 469 (23:02:41) JanC: jean7491: anything you want to know/ask me about "topic
 470 4" ?
 471 (23:03:13) JanC: (I'm working on other things also...)
 472 (23:03:36) jean7491: support posters, new posters, banner, flyers...
 473 (23:03:59) jean7491: about support for posters?
 474 (23:04:25) JanC: I still have to ask  :-/
 475 (23:05:33) Gh0sty: I don't know I find if you have too much of it ... :/
 476 (23:06:23) Gh0sty: you are talking about posters, printing flyers etc on
 477 the mailinglist
 478 (23:06:44) Gh0sty: but as far as I can see: JanC had still a ton of
 479 posters, flyers are also still in the hundreds out there ...
 480 (23:06:57) Gh0sty: shouldn't spend so much money on paper people only
 481 read 5 seconds :/
 482 (23:07:13) jean7491: ok support poster is for later,
 483 (23:07:24) Indra6oc [n=indra6oc@213.219.148.43.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] a
 484 rejoint le salon.
 485 (23:08:03) Gh0sty: just my 2 cents
 486 (23:08:14) jean7491: old posters : i discovered the remaining stock via
 487 questions in the mailing list
 488 (23:08:54) Gh0sty: and like JanC did ... could give some away :P
 489 (23:09:21) Gh0sty: cause a) I did not know of the existence, b) I would
 490 not pay for it c) now I have some to make some advertisement myself ;p
 491 (23:10:09) Indra6oc: hi all
 492 (23:10:15) jean7491: old flyers : idem as i saw 4000 flyers printed in
 493 2007, and did the remark, and receive today an answer
 494 (23:10:40) jean7491: hello indra
 495 (23:11:06) Indra6oc: high, making stock of the advertising material
 496 (23:11:12) Indra6oc: ?  O:-) 
 497 (23:11:34) jean7491: i don't know how are the old flyers?
 498 (23:11:44) Gh0sty: trying to inventory the current before we go and
 499 print new ;p
 500 (23:11:59) Indra6oc: smart move  :) 
 501 (23:12:07) Guest95168 a quitté le salon (quit: "Ex-Chat")
 502 (23:12:52) JanC: I think the only "old" flyers is whatever jean7491
 503 might have left from Antwerp
 504 (23:13:07) jean7491: no ,
 505 (23:13:33) JanC: if anything is leftover ツ
 506 (23:14:01) jean7491: it is about 4000 flyers printed in 2007, mark has a
 507 few hundreds remainig (see mailing list)
 508 (23:16:15) JanC: oh, that's probably the same old flyers I printed
 509 myself for W-Vl then?
 510 (23:16:37) JanC: A6-format? (A4 cut in 4)
 511 (23:16:45) jean7491: no idea!
 512 (23:17:16) JanC: I always printed ± 600 of them
 513 (23:17:26) Gh0sty: which once do you mean
 514 (23:17:46) Gh0sty: i remember seeing some flyers of ubuntu on the ubuntu
 515 release event in hasselt or something
 516 (23:17:47) JanC: (150 A4 recto-verso photocopies cut in 4)
 517 (23:18:05) Gh0sty: that was with an "fill in your name" stuff ?
 518 (23:18:15) JanC: no, not that
 519 (23:20:02) Gh0sty: was a great idea though
 520 (23:20:13) Gh0sty: except for the fact it did not contain an address
 521 (23:20:34) Gh0sty: was just meant for a "leave a paper after the event
 522 in case you want to leave contact info"
 523 (23:21:39) jean7491: there are several proposals for new flyers with
 524 more colors (5000 a6 for ± 80euro)
 525 (23:21:40) JanC:
 526 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=ubuntu-flyer-NL-ed1-4xA6.pdf
 527 (23:22:37) JanC: I paid 10 euro for 600 A6 B&W flyers
 528 (23:22:55) schwarz_p
 529 [n=schwarz_@232.226-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] a rejoint le salon.
 530 (23:24:00) JanC: anyway, anything else left to discuss?
 531 (23:24:08) jean7491: color, 250gr paper
 532 (23:24:21) JanC: schwarz_p: welcome, the meeting is almost over...   :-P 
 533 (23:25:06) jean7491: a last question, but out of the topic, about
 534 meeting reports
 535 (23:26:46) Indra6oc: and one about advertising material, where and how
 536 can i get stickers  O:-) 
 537 (23:27:09) Gh0sty: what about them jean7491 ? :/
 538 (23:27:20) JanC: Indra6oc: I have case badges
 539 (23:27:20) Gh0sty: I have some I think :p
 540 (23:27:27) Gh0sty: not that I have an idea where those stickers are :x
 541 (23:27:28) Indra6oc: yes, the powered by ubuntu thingies
 542 (23:27:37) Gh0sty: oh no that I don't have :p
 543 (23:28:10) Indra6oc: i install several ubuntu pc's a week (some weeks)
 544 and i want to make em ubuntu brand
 545 (23:28:22) JanC: Indra6oc: normally you can get them by sending me a
 546 SAE, but if we see each other in the near future (e.g. to paint banners)
 547 you better wait until then  ;) 
 548 (23:29:02) JanC: Indra6oc: several a week is a lot?!
 549 (23:29:03) Indra6oc: or we could meet up b4 somewhere in a weekend
 550 (23:29:23) Indra6oc: did 2 or 3 last week, and this week again 2
 551 (23:29:37) Indra6oc: i'm an active (and experienced) converter
 552 (23:29:41) JanC: just people you know, or for a shop or what?
 553 (23:29:54) Indra6oc: i did public buslines with maya calanders
 554 (23:30:02) Indra6oc: mostly people i know
 555 (23:30:04) JanC: eh?
 556 (23:30:10) Indra6oc: they know im good with computers
 557 (23:30:33) JanC: "kalanders" are bug that like to eat flour  :P
 558 (23:30:37) Indra6oc: mayan cosmology, calulating peoples birtdates in
 559 the maya calender
 560 (23:30:53) JanC: ah
 561 (23:30:58) JanC:  ;) 
 562 (23:31:13) Indra6oc: it all bout awaresness
 563 (23:31:45) Indra6oc: thru calenders of operatings systems alle bout the
 564 light  O:-) 
 565 (23:31:53) JanC: well, I think I have to meat jean7491 & Wamukota too
 566 some day
 567 (23:32:15) jean7491: proposal po paint an ubuntu banner on textile
 568 (indra - at home in stekene) was my last part of this topic : other
 569 volunteers?
 570 (23:32:19) Indra6oc: yes bout meeting, where is everybody from
 571 (23:32:31) jean7491: ostende
 572 (23:32:47) JanC: jean7491 to get my projection screen back, and wamukota
 573 has a PC for Ubuntu-be to use
 574 (23:33:15) JanC: BTW: jean7491: can you use that PC from Wamukota?
 575 (23:33:19) Indra6oc: if you want pc's i can offer some
 576 (23:33:31) JanC: Indra6oc: actually, I have enough PCs   ;) 
 577 (23:33:32) Indra6oc: i do recycled pc's as a hobby
 578 (23:33:39) Indra6oc:  O:-) 
 579 (23:33:46) JanC: almost can't store them anymore   ;) 
 580 (23:33:51) Gh0sty: wonder if I can't snag a P4 without ram from work ...
 581 (23:33:57) Gh0sty: needs memory thats all
 582 (23:34:01) Indra6oc:  :) 
 583 (23:34:12) Gh0sty: some dell crap
 584 (23:34:26) JanC: my house is very small, so I can't store too much
 585 (23:34:29) Indra6oc: i've got this proliant D580 lighing around
 586 (23:34:37) Indra6oc: lying*
 587 (23:34:55) Indra6oc: still looking for something good to put it on
 588 (23:34:59) jean7491: JanC i've the pc Wamukota at home, but no use
 589 (23:35:13) JanC: jean7491: use for Ubuntu events I mean
 590 (23:35:29) JanC: if you can store it, that's fine
 591 (23:35:42) Gh0sty: http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/servers/proliantdl580/
 592 (23:35:45) Gh0sty: this? :o
 593 (23:35:55) Gh0sty: like some heavy paperweight? :p
 594 (23:36:13) Indra6oc: yes
 595 (23:36:17) Gh0sty: lol
 596 (23:36:20) JanC: I also have a Compaq Evo with a P4 still
 597 (23:36:21) Indra6oc: oh no similar
 598 (23:36:23) Gh0sty: too heavy to drag around :p
 599 (23:36:25) jean7491: JanC for the moment ok, but no screen, and my tv is
 600 out of order
 601 (23:36:31) Indra6oc: and quite noizy
 602 (23:36:32) JanC: ow?
 603 (23:36:37) Indra6oc: with 16 or more fans
 604 (23:36:47) Indra6oc: i'v got an older one
 605 (23:36:58) Gh0sty: lol if you want stuff like that we throw away dell
 606 poweredge 2550 or 2600 at work ;p
 607 (23:37:04) Indra6oc: p3 900 *4
 608 (23:37:12) Indra6oc: 3gig of ram
 609 (23:37:12) Gh0sty: but thats just too heavy, noisy ...
 610 (23:37:36) jean7491: i've to leave now, next meeting, same day, same hour