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Meeting Minutes

Present

Main Meeting

• Alexander Sack (asac)
• Alberto Milone (tseliot)

• Arne Goetje (ArneGoetje)

• Chris Cheney (calc)
• Jonathan Riddell (Riddell)

• Ken VanDine (kenvandine)

• Martin Pitt (pitti) - chair
• Sebastien Bacher (seb128)
• Till Kamppeter (tkamppeter)
• Tony Espy

Eastern Edition

• Luke Yelavich (TheMuso)

• Robert Ancell (robert_ancell)

Apologies

• Rick Spencer (rickspencer3)
• Bryce Harrington (bryce)

Agenda

• Outstanding actions from last meeting
• Changed bug reporting process
• Partner Update
• Kubuntu Update
• Release Bugs/Release Status
• Ricks' heartache list
• Review work items
• Review activity reports
• Any other business

Actions from this meeting

• https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/FindRightPackage: TheMuso to update the page for audio

• https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/FindRightPackage: robert_ancell to update the page for compiz

• pitti to talk to bdmurray about +filebug feedback (Done, see bug 432088)

• Riddell to clean up Kubuntu/Todo/Karmic

Outstanding actions from last meeting

• https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/FindRightPackage: TheMuso to update the page for audio

  • Not done, pushed to this week

• https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/FindRightPackage: robert_ancell to update the page for compiz

  • Not done, pushed to this week

• https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/FindRightPackage: pitti to update the page for storage devices

  • Done

Changed bug reporting process

Feedback about the +filebug redirection:

• many bugs can legitimately be filed without apport information (such as translation bugs), wishlist bugs, or UI problems
• Devs still want an easily accessible "file it anyway" link

• Proposal from Alex: Firefox protocol handler like apturl (ubuntu-bug:file/firefox-3.5), but that requires new code and will only work with Firefox

• Ideal solution: +filebug page shows wiki page contents and offers a "file it anyway" link at the bottom

• Compromise: Disable redirection for ~ubuntu-bug-control members.

ACTION: pitti to talk to bdmurray about +filebug feedback

Done in bug 432088; other developers proposed the same solution.

Partner Update

UbuntuOne:

• Online services team is sprinting this week, and I haven't gotten an update from them yet
• couchdb
  • split server from the rest of couch so it doesn't start at boot
• bindwood
  • we need bug fix release with oauth enabled
• desktopcouch
  • we need bug fix release with oauth enabled (to allow syncing)
• ubuntuone-client
  • There will likely be a UI freeze exception requested to deal with the preferences dialog usability issue

Martin pointed out that enabling oauth and peer-to-peer sync is a new feature which comes very late.

DX:

• Weekly releases

  • user list in the session applet
  • menu ordering bug
  • notify-osd crashers
• New gdm artwork still needs to land

Kubuntu Update

• DVDs oversized, next Amarok upload may fix that
• OEM installer broken, but broken in Ubuntu Desktop too
• Upgrade from Jaunty works but with some config file quirks that I need to work around
• jockey and apport still need investigation

Rick's list of heartache

Boot

• lots of incoming bugs about not being able to boot: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+bugs?field.tag=ubuntu-boot

  • under active investigation (mostly by Scott)
• lots of messages and other crufty looking things:
  • many of them were already fixed in latest udev

Empathy

• audio/video is crashy:
  • Ken will spend some time debugging this this week
  • Audio has been relatively stable since recently
  • Video is broken and consistently crashing
  • Ken will talk to cassidy (upstream)
  • New telepathy-farsight was synced yesterday and is supposed to help a lot
• not interacting well with messaging menu

X

• Is there something keeping compiz from working on intel 945?
  • Race condition on boot, sometimes does not load DRM modules and thus enable KMS and acceleration

  • related to bug 392039 and bug 431812, Scott proposed a solution in the bug

Gwibber

• Not displaying messages atm
  • Not reproducible; Rick needs to file a bug
• crashy, including daemon
  • Not reproducible; Rick needs to file a bug
• not interacting well with messaging
  • fixed yesterday

Session menu

• haven't implemented user list yet (regression)

  • tracked in bug 422052

  • gdm offers the API now
• status interactions with apps not working well
  • needs to be ported to telepathy-mission-control-5 (right now it uses the 4 API)
  • scheduled to land on Thursday

work items

• above trend line
• asac still has quite a few open items
• status of Arne's work?

See below

software-store

• looking good
• needs more testing?
• is it showing up in the right places?
  • In Applications menu now, where it belongs
  • Extra entry in System → Administration menu; filed as bug 435123 with a tested solution

Work items

Way above the trend line right now. Most problematic ones:

• Kubuntu/Todo/Karmic: 25 open items; Riddell says that many can be closed

• desktop-karmic-firefox-3.5 : mostly cleanup left, which can be done post-beta

• A lot of the remaining items are QA/test plan/release notes items which are suitable for post-beta

ACTION: Riddell to clean up Kubuntu/Todo/Karmic

Activity reports

Alexander Sack (asac)

• finish autoconnect-inhibit (disconnect) network-manager feature and committed upstream
• lots of work on 0.8 network manager applet UI changes; prototyping various
  • approaches and trying to get upstream to give a GO; still decision pending
• update gnome-bluetooth, webkit to latest upstream
• update finish epiphany to webkit migration; fix and upstream greasemonkey
  • fixes for epiphany extensions; also fixed gw2get to work with latest ephy.
• work on networkmanager/modemmanager PUK issues; propose a solution with upstream; settled on doing it different (more work) LP:
• ported galeon to xulrunner 1.9.1
• fixed listen package to not depend on xulrunner (just webkit)

Alberto Milone (tseliot)

• Bug triage for -ati, -intel, -fglrx. Upstreamed ATI bug #429251.Upstreamed Intel bugs #429241, #429191.
• Provided Felix Kuehling (AMD) with feedback about his patch for X which can't be included in Karmic.
• Reviewed and approved Mario Limonciello's patch to work around card detection problems in the -nv driver, uploaded his fix to my PPA for testing. The fix is now in Karmic (LP: #385658)
• Worked on -intel issue about suspend/resume with Compiz (#429241):
  • Added a fix in mesa to correct the relocation delta for WM surfaces. Uploaded mesa to Karmic.

  • Worked with Andy Whitcroft so that the problem is solved in the kernel too. The result is in: http://people.canonical.com/~apw/lp429241-karmic/ . The combination of the two (the latter will be uploaded after the freeze) solves the problem.

• Discussed critical bugs (affecting -intel) for Karmic with Intel engineers.
• [ATI R6xx and above] X fails to start up after mesa+git update (LP: #419126):
  • After discussing the problem with Alex Deucher (AMD) I decided to disable the 3D driver for r600 in mesa.
  • Experimental support for this driver will be provided in a PPA.
• Investigated problems with Intel Arrandal Video controller (#416792) together with Andy. I asked Intel about the error affecting tiling on the front buffer. Andy will integrate the new patches from Intel in Karmic.

• Filed bug report against ubuntu-release-notes so that my instructions on DontZap can be added (#432384).

• Synaptics driver: provided upstream with a small correction about the type of the Synaptics Area options in the man page of synaptics. This fix will enter Karmic too.
• Discussed #409456 with NVIDIA. I'm working on the changes as suggested by kees.
• Changed the section of the -modaliases packages (in fglrx and nvidia) to "admin" as the packages are not "restricted" (LP: #429153). Will upload it after the freeze.

Arne Goetje (ArneGoetje)

• langpack-o-matic:
  • build new language packs for Karmic, Jaunty and Hardy
• language-selector:
  • write a script to do the language-support completeness check independently from gnome-language-selector. This can be called by other applications to figure out which packages are still missing on the system for a given language code.
• Rosetta import queue cleaning

Bryce Harrington (bryce)

Chris Cheney (calc)

• OEM work
• uploaded openoffice.org 1:3.1.1-2ubuntu1.
• Lots of OOo bug triage

Jonathan Riddell (Riddell)

done:

• Alpha 6 testing, fixing, testing, resize CDs, testing, release
• libindicate patch and plasmoid updates
• Package new Konversation beta
• update webkitkde package
• archive admin half day
• jaunty upgrade testing
• trying to get DVDs within size limit

todo:

• fix jaunty upgrade problems
• get DVDs built within size limit and test
• test oem-installer
• investigate jockey-kde and apport-kde issues

Ken VanDine (kenvandine)

Done:

• Prepared weekly releases for most of the DX packages
• updated python-indicate to support the new libindicate API
• finished up the indicator support in empathy (thanks Robert!)
  • added green dot support
  • added avatar
• gwibber indicator work
• mostly done with fixing up notifications in gwibber
• fixed the progress throbber in gwibber

Planned:

• Prepare DX package uploads
• chase down the last glib critical in empathy
• debug video calls in empathy
• polish off the gwibber notifications (prevent it from spamming notify-osd)
• perhaps fix the broken indicator support in gajim

Luke Yelavich (TheMuso)

Accessibility:

• Continued debugging of speech-dispatcher pulseaudio output code. I have come to the conclusion that the pulseaudio output code

+needs tobe optimized a lot more, and more functions to help with better performance/latency need to be used from the pulse API. +This shouldn't be too much work, if I can find some example code as a reference. Hope to land this by beta, if not ASAP afterwards.

• Uploaded new versions of orca, gok, and mousetweaks, all version 2.28.0 to karmic.

Audio:

• Audio bug triaging, bugs in question are against pulseaudio, alsa userspace, and the kernel for hardware enablement.
• Uploaded pulseaudio v0.9.18 plus a couple of extra fixes from the 0.9.18 stable branch to karmic, thanks to Daniel chen for his

+help.

• Updated libcanberra with some bug fixes from git head.
• Added files for libcanberra to play a login sound when gdm loads. This is still not working, so it needs to be debugged.

Misc:

• A little sponsoring, less than I should, I know.

Martin Pitt (pitti)

Karmic feature work:

• desktop-karmic-automagic-python-build-system:
  • beta available
  • just the upstream discussion is missing (which isn't bound by release cycle)
• desktop-karmic-symptom-based-bug-reporting: implemented
• security-karmic-apport-abort: implemented

• hal deprecation:

  • this is as far as we can get in karmic, we won't change further things after FF
  • I'm happy about how far we got
• gnome-panel speedup: pretty much "postponed", didn't have time for that

Other work done:

• MIR reviews
• PostgreSQL security update for stables
• Apport retracer maintenance
• Bug fixing: apport, cups, gconf, gdm, gdm-guest-session, gnumeric, hal, hdparm, jockey, libatasmart, udev
• Package updates to new upstream versions: devicekit-disks, gnome-disk-utility, gnome-power-manager, libatasmart
• Discussed DVD downsizing, did seed changes
• Fixed seeds for translation related packages
• Fought with non-booting karmic, reinstalled my workstation
• Ported indicator-session to polkit-1
• Set up gnome version script on my server
• Updated our artwork packages license/copyright
• usplash-theme-ubuntu: disable progress bar

Sponsoring:

• bindwood, desktopcouch, empathy, mesa, pidgin-libnotify, papyon, ttf-liberation

Robert Ancell (robert_ancell)

• Package update/merges: gcalctool, yelp, file-roller, eog, gnome-games, gdm, gtkmm2.4, glibmm2.4, pangomm, gnome-python-desktop, gnome-icon-theme, gnome-control-center, liboobs, gnome-doc-utils

• Updated DebuggingCompiz Wiki instructions

• Empathy patch work

Sebastien Bacher (seb128)

• GNOME 2.28 updates: gnome-keyring gtksourceview totem-pl-parser rhythmbox cheese gnome-applets gnome-system-monitor alacarte evolution-data-server evolution evolution-exchange gconf-editor vino nautilus-sendto vinagre totem-pl-parser totem gvfs gnome-python intltool nautilus gedit gnome-utils gnome-keyring gnome-desktop zenity gnome-panel gnome-menus libwnck seahorse evince libgweather gnome-session
• looked at why some software using gdesktopapp to read desktop files are not translated
• updated default gnome-panel profile to not have an email launcher since the message indicator has those
• uploaded an indicator-messages fix to use translations correctly
• uploaded new evolution-indicator
• did some notify-osd testing and got some valgrind logs about a frequent crasher
• desktop bugs triage and started nominating things for karmic
• karmic cds testing
• updated gnome-panel and gnome-menus to move the software store according to the new design team recommendation
• uploaded bratsche's xsplash changes to gnome-panel and nautilus
• sponsoring: totem libindicate ubuntuone-client farsight2 gnome-themes ubuntuone-storage-protocol deskbar-applet xsplash indicate-python libdbusmenu indicator-session gucharmap gtksourceview2 gcalctool empathy pangomm gnome-games gtkmm2.4 gnome-control-center zenity

Tony Espy (awe)

Till Kamppeter (tkamppeter)

• Uploaded system-config-printer: Integration of the new "dnssd" CUPS backend. It produced a lot of duplicate entries of the same printer and so cluttered the list of discovered printers a lot.
• Uploaded foomatic-db, foomatic-db-engine, ghostscript, hplip, gutenprint, splix, and all other printer driver packages to make the PPD auto-updates in the post-install scripts not ask for the server's password if the user has set a remote server via client.conf.

• Fixed CUPS bugs: Double-sided printing did not work on PostScript printers when the "sides" command line option for "lp"/"lpr" was used (LP: #411392), for options with an underscore (or any other allowed non-alphanumeric character) in their names the default settings were not conserved when the PPD got replaced ("lpadmin -p ... -m ...", system-config-printer, automatic PPD update for existing print queues, LP: #432902).

• Answered and triaged printing-related bug reports.

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