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Partner Update

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http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-desktop-team-maverick-alpha-1.html

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Arne Goetje (ArneGoetje)

Bryce Harrington (bryce)

Chris Cheney (ccheney)

Chris Coulson (chrisccoulson)

Chris Halse Rogers (RAOF)

Didier Roche (didrocks)

Gary Lasker (tremolux)

Jonathan Riddell (Riddell)

Ken VanDine (kenvandine)

Luke Yelavich (TheMuso)

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Martin Pitt (pitti)

Robert Ancell (robert_ancell)

Sebastien Bacher (seb128)

Till Kamppeter (tkamppeter)

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[17:31] * rickspencer3 taps gavel
[17:32] <rickspencer3> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2010-07-06
[17:32] <rickspencer3> first is open actions from last week
[17:32] <rickspencer3> but there weren't any
[17:32] * pitti chuckles
[17:32] <rickspencer3> so, easy!
[17:32] <pitti> the real fun is tomorrow!
[17:32] <rickspencer3> pitti, for you maybe, I'm in NL
[17:32] <rickspencer3> next is partner update
[17:33] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, ?
[17:33] <kenvandine> rickspencer3, i haven't figured that out yet... Smile :) first day back
[17:33] <rickspencer3> okay
[17:33] <rickspencer3> well
[17:33] * kenvandine enjoyed drinks at the beach... does that count?
[17:33] <rickspencer3> this is turning out to go fast
[17:33] <seb128> it will be faster when you notice there is no didrocks either
[17:33] <seb128> Wink ;-)
[17:34] <rickspencer3> I think Riddell is at Akadamy
[17:34] <seb128> indeed
[17:34] <chrisccoulson> i don't know if you want a mozilla update? i've not prepared anything to say but i could probably say a few words
[17:34] <rickspencer3> chrisccoulson, yes please
[17:35] <seb128> chrisccoulson, would be nice
[17:35] <chrisccoulson> ok. so, we published FF3.6.6 to hardy and lucid last week (just after last weeks meeting)
[17:35] <seb128> \o/
[17:35] <chrisccoulson> it's gone reasonably well so far, there was 1 issue that appeared during the evening (the new FF version conflicting with firefox-2 installs)
[17:36] <chrisccoulson> but that's fixed now
[17:36] <chrisccoulson> and we had some users complaining that their java plugin disappeared, which is also now fixed
[17:36] <chrisccoulson> and we're getting a lot of crash reports caused by the flash plugin on both lucid and hardy
[17:36] <chrisccoulson> which sucks :-/
[17:37] <chrisccoulson> i could do with a way of contacting somebody at adobe
[17:37] <rickspencer3> chrisccoulson, have you asked asac about that?
[17:37] <chrisccoulson> rickspencer3, about contacting somebody at adobe?
[17:37] <chrisccoulson> or about the crashes?
[17:38] <rickspencer3> chrisccoulson, the adobe thing
[17:38] <chrisccoulson> rickspencer3, not yet. i was given another name yesterday, but i've not had a chance to speak to him yet
[17:39] <chrisccoulson> but, apart from that, i'm going to be in a position to finally start on maverick work this week Smile :)
[17:39] <rickspencer3> chrisccoulson, I would strongly recommend asking asac
[17:39] <chrisccoulson> rickspencer3, ok, i can do that
[17:39] <rickspencer3> for a suggestion of who to talk to
[17:39] <rickspencer3> chrisccoulson, congrats on starting maverick
[17:39] <rickspencer3> !
[17:40] <rickspencer3> chrisccoulson, I assume it goes without saying that you did an awesome job with mozilla and we all owe you a huge debt of gratitude?
[17:40] <chrisccoulson> FF3.6.7 is already in the PPA ready for testing too
[17:40] <chrisccoulson> heh, thanks Smile :)
[17:40] <seb128> indeed great work chrisccoulson
[17:40] <chrisccoulson> and thanks to everyone who's helped out with testing too Smile :)
[17:40] * tremolux high-5's chrisccoulson
[17:41] * chrisccoulson high-5's tremolux Smile :)
[17:41] <rickspencer3> Smile :)
[17:41] <rickspencer3> ok
[17:41] <rickspencer3> chrisccoulson, else on mozilla?
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[17:42] <chrisccoulson> i think i'm done. the only other thing is that karmic and jaunty are still blocked on openjdk, but that should be resolved soon
[17:42] <rickspencer3> chrisccoulson, that's just a simple matter of work, right?
[17:42] <rickspencer3> no unsolved technical issues, correct?
[17:42] <chrisccoulson> rickspencer3, yeah, we still need to run the TCK, which i don't think i'm doing
[17:43] <rickspencer3> right
[17:43] <rickspencer3> chrisccoulson, who is, do you know?
[17:43] <chrisccoulson> but jdstrand had to copy a package to main in jaunty today to get the backported version to build
[17:43] <chrisccoulson> i'm not sure who's doing the work, i'll have to check my emails again
[17:43] <rickspencer3> chrisccoulson, never mind, I can find out
[17:44] <rickspencer3> you should rather take a rest!
[17:44] <rickspencer3> hehe
[17:44] <chrisccoulson> rickspencer3, thanks
[17:44] <rickspencer3> ok, moving on ...
[17:44] <rickspencer3> tremolux, software-center?
[17:44] <tremolux> sure, pastebomb incoming:
[17:44] <tremolux> Buy Something: Software Center Agent implementation progressing well, stub server in use for development
[17:44] <tremolux> mvo was able to "buy something" from his private PPA after resolving aptdaemon issue, branch at lp:~mvo/software-center/buy-something
[17:44] <tremolux> New Apps: Further UI design input from mpt and discussion, development using app-review-board PPA continues (new-apps needs love this week)
[17:44] <tremolux> UI Enhancements: Great progress by Kiwinote in apturl integration features, Matthew McGowan working on new gtk-based details view
[17:45] <rickspencer3> mvo was able to "buy something" from his private PPA after resolving aptdaemon issue, branch at lp:~mvo/software-center/buy-something
[17:45] <rickspencer3> !!!!
[17:45] <rickspencer3> seriously?
[17:45] <rickspencer3> wow
[17:45] <tremolux> yeah!
[17:45] <tremolux> he said it is "rough", but it worked
[17:45] <rickspencer3> New Apps: Further UI design input from mpt and discussion
[17:45] <rickspencer3> has anyone come up with a name yet?
[17:46] <tremolux> no, I will get something asap tho
[17:46] <rickspencer3> tremolux, maybe a contest or something?
[17:46] <tremolux> hah, maybe!
[17:46] <rickspencer3> ACTION: rickspencer3 to propose a naming contest for new apps
[17:46] <rickspencer3> ACTION: rickspencer3 to find out who is doing the TDK testing, and make sure they do it
[17:47] <rickspencer3> tremolux, thanks for the update
[17:47] <tremolux> sure!
[17:47] <rickspencer3> sounds like software-center is coming along quite nicely for maverick
[17:47] <rickspencer3> moving on ...
[17:47] <rickspencer3> no didrocks, so no UNE update
[17:47] <rickspencer3> so, two quick things from me
[17:48] <rickspencer3> I bet some of you are wondering about performance reviews
[17:48] <rickspencer3> well ... I'm just waiting to hear about the raise and bonus numbers
[17:48] <rickspencer3> so I'm thinking next week
[17:49] <rickspencer3> we'll discuss goal setting at that time as well
[17:49] <seb128> ups
[17:49] <seb128> sorry about that
[17:49] <seb128> (note, don't test bugs during a meeting that might crash things)
[17:49] <rickspencer3> welcome back seb128
[17:49] <rickspencer3> lol
[17:49] <rickspencer3> never a bad time to test!
[17:49] <rickspencer3> okay
[17:49] <rickspencer3> next is the spring
[17:49] <rickspencer3> sprint, even
[17:50] <rickspencer3> ah, I see my update to the wiki got blown away
[17:51] <rickspencer3> so, we need to update the wiki with our goals for the sprint
[17:51] <rickspencer3> as Tech Lead, this will be seb128's sacred task
[17:51] <rickspencer3> for some reason, this is on the internal wiki:
[17:51] <seb128> Wink ;-)
[17:51] <rickspencer3> https://wiki.canonical.com/UbuntuPlatform/Sprints/Maverick/Desktop
[17:51] <rickspencer3> (sorry seb128)
[17:52] <seb128> the page seems pretty empty
[17:52] <rickspencer3> seb128, I think making the agenda has gotten a lot easier since we started tracking work items
[17:52] <rickspencer3> but there may be non work item things to add, as well
[17:52] <rickspencer3> like if you want someone to teach you something
[17:52] <rickspencer3> add it to the agenda
[17:53] <rickspencer3> seb128, so can you own filling in the agenda for us??
[17:53] <loneowais> lamalex: hey, i shifted that app to messaging menu
[17:53] <seb128> ok
[17:53] <lamalex> loneowais: sweet
[17:53] <loneowais> lamalex: the one we talked about yesterday
[17:53] <seb128> loneowais, hey, there is a meeting running atm
[17:53] <loneowais> oh
[17:53] <loneowais> sorry
[17:53] <loneowais> carry on
[17:53] <rickspencer3> loneowais, lamalex np, almost done
[17:53] <seb128> lamalex, loneowais: could you wait end of the meeting or use #ayatana?
[17:53] <kenvandine> Smile :)
[17:53] <loneowais> i'm in no hurry
[17:53] <loneowais> i can wait
[17:54] <rickspencer3> Smile :)
[17:54] <rickspencer3> moving on
[17:54] <rickspencer3> seb128, release status? anything there to discuss?
[17:54] <seb128> #ayatana could be nice since that's where people writing indicators hang
[17:54] <seb128> ok
[17:54] <seb128> not really
[17:54] <seb128> congrats on alpha2 everybody
[17:54] <seb128> http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-desktop-team-maverick-alpha-2.html
[17:54] <seb128> we have been mostly on track during this iteration and alpha2 is working nicely
[17:55] <seb128> now we track http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-desktop-team-maverick-alpha-3.html
[17:55] <seb128> and seems we are already behind a bit
[17:55] <seb128> (but there was a 3 days weekend and some people on holidays)
[17:56] <seb128> so let's rock on those
[17:56] <seb128> and don't forget to update your workitems regularly
[17:56] <seb128> that was about it, thanks
[17:56] <rickspencer3> seb128, when should we start looking at bugs?
[17:56] <seb128> rickspencer3, "depends" I would say Wink ;-)
[17:56] <seb128> it's still a bit early to focus on bugs now
[17:57] <seb128> but we turned apport on again in maverick
[17:57] <rickspencer3> thanks seb128
[17:57] <seb128> and it might be time to try to spot some of the importants issues in components you watch
[17:57] <seb128> and talk to upstream etc about those
[17:57] <rickspencer3> any other business?
[17:57] <seb128> quite some specs are still work in progress though and there is no real point spending lot of time on bugs for things changing still
[17:58] <seb128> rickspencer3, thanks
[17:58] <rickspencer3> thanks seb128, understood
[17:58] <rickspencer3> any other business?
[17:58] <seb128> not from me
[17:59] <rickspencer3> ok
[17:59] <rickspencer3> shall we call it a wrap?
[17:59] * rickspencer3 taps gavel

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