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|| Hibernates? || No (Note 3,4) || No (Note 3) || Untested || [https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/36944 36944] ||
|| Sleep || Yes (Note 4) || Yes || No || [https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/acpi/+bug/61026 61026] ||
|| Hibernates? || No (Note 3,4) || No (Note 3) || Yes (Note 16) || [https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/36944 36944] ||
|| Sleep || Yes (Note 4) || Yes || Yes (Note 16) || [https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/acpi/+bug/61026 61026] ||
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(16) The system sometimes fails to hibernate/sleep and immediately reawakes with [https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/61407 an error about tasks not stopping]. I ran about 10 tests of both hibernating and suspending and had the error occur twice - if it couldn't hibernate for that reason then it also couldn't sleep.
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|| Shutdown -> Power-off || 36 || 29 || ||
|| Suspend to RAM (sleep) || 9 || 8 || ||
|| Resume from RAM (wake) || 8 || 11 || ||
|| Suspend to HD (hibernate) || 15 || 25 || ||
|| Resume from HD || 9 || 36 || ||
|| Shutdown -> Power-off || 36 || 29 || 28 ||
|| Suspend to RAM (sleep) || 9 || 8 || 8 ||
|| Resume from RAM (wake) || 8 || 11 || 9 ||
|| Suspend to HD (hibernate) || 15 || 25 || 26 ||
|| Resume from HD || 9 || 36 || 36 ||
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 * When trying for the five tests of hibernation on Dapper, I had four failed hibernates. Windows never failed.  * When trying for the five tests of hibernation on Dapper, I had four failed hibernates. Windows never failed. Edgy Knot 3 failed once with [https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/61407 this error].

Current Issues

  • I still have to manually configure hdparm.conf every time that I reinstall. Thankfully the main annoyance (DMA not being turned on for my DVD drive) has been fixed in Dapper, but I feel that the system could be more optimised if this was fixed [https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/base-installer/+bug/36664 Bug 36664]

  • I also think that Disk Manager needs to be enhanced to allow the (sudo'ed) user to change permissions in a nice GUI, so if they don't like the defaults (I always make my Fat32 partition read/write) they can change it without editing text files [https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-tools/+bug/36839 Bug 36839].

  • Bluetooth support is shocking. It involves too much knowledge of which packages to install and setting up a pin for your machine is done by editing text files. Perhaps a 'Bluetooth' section of the Admin or Preferences menu is needed, through which you can change PINs, click buttons to install the correct packages for a task etc.. I haven't filed any bugs on this issue because I realise that there is a complete Bluetooth specification being worked on that should make this a lot better.

  • The SVideo TV-Out does not work for me. If I have it plugged in to the TV and push the CRT/LCD button I get a flicker but nothing more. This is the case when I have my resolution set to 1400x1050 (my native - using 915resolution) and 1280x1024 [https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-driver-i810/+bug/6270 6270].

  • Installation in the Dapper Release has been entirely unimpressive. See Note 15
  • AIGLX is not enabled by default, even though the graphics card supports it.

Hardware details

in Breezy (current supported)?

in Dapper 6.06.1 (current stable)?

in Edgy Knot 3 (testing)

Installation works?

Yes

Yes (Note 15)

No

Alternative CD Install

N/A

No (Note 15)

Yes

Hardware Information

Screen & Monitors

Device

Works?

Bug # (Launchpad)

in Breezy (current supported)?

in Dapper 6.06.1 (current stable)?

in Edgy Knot 3 (testing)

Screen

Yes

Yes

Yes

Correct resolution?

No (Note 1)

No (Note 1)

No (Note 1)

[https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/915resolution/+bug/6271 6271]

Correct refresh rate?

Yes (60 Hz)

Yes (60Hz)

Yes (60Hz)

3D Acceleration

Yes

Yes

Yes

External monitor works?

No

Untested (Note 2)

Untested

[https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-driver-i810/+bug/40091 40091]

External monitor - mirrors

As Above

Yes

Untested

External monitor - extend desktop

As Above

Untested

Untested

Power Management

Battery detected?

Yes

Yes

Yes

Hibernates?

No (Note 3,4)

No (Note 3)

Yes (Note 16)

[https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/36944 36944]

Sleep

Yes (Note 4)

Yes

Yes (Note 16)

[https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/acpi/+bug/61026 61026]

Dim monitor on battery

Untested

Yes

Yes

Blank monitor on inactivity

Yes

Yes

Yes

[https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/36568 36568]

Lid Close

Yes

Yes

Yes

Cpu frequency scaling

Yes

Yes

Yes

Sound

Sound works?

Yes

Yes

Yes

Correct volume?

Yes

Yes

Yes

Hotkey volume switch

Yes

Yes

Yes

Headphone jack

Yes

Yes

Yes

Mic jack

Yes

Yes

Yes

Networking

Wired NIC

Yes

Yes

Yes

Wireless NIC

Yes (Note 6)

Yes (Note 6)

Untested

Firewire

Untested

Untested

Untested

Bluetooth

Yes

Yes (Note 7)

Untested

Modem

No (Note 8)

Untested

Untested

Infrared

Untested (Note 9)

Untested (Note 9)

Untested

Touchpad & Mice

Touchpad

Yes

Yes

Yes

Touchpad - Doubletap = double click

Yes

Yes

Yes

Touchpad - Scroll down side

No

Yes

Yes

[https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/36574 36574]

External mouse - USB

Yes

Yes

Yes

External mouse - Serial

Untested

Untested

Untested

Docking Station/Port Replicator

AC through replicator

Untested

Untested

Untested

USB

Untested

Untested

Untested

Serial

Untested

Untested

Untested

Parallel

Untested

Untested

Untested

External Monitor - VGA

Untested

Untested

Untested

External Monitor - DVI

Untested

Untested

Untested

Modem

Untested

Untested

Untested

NIC

Untested

Untested

Untested

PS/2

Untested

Untested

Untested

Additional Hardware

CD/DVD drive

Yes

Yes

Yes

PCMCIA cards

Untested

Untested

Untested

Parallel Ports

Yes

Untested

Untested

Function and other keys

Fn key

Operation

Keycode

Works?

Bug #

in Breezy (current supported)?

in Dapper 6.06.1 (current stable)?

in Edgy Knot 3

+ Esc

Suspend

Untested

Yes (Note 10)

Untested

[https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/40606 40606]

+ F2

Wireless on/off

Untested

Yes

Untested

+ F3

Battery?

0x6f

Untested

No (Note 14)

No (Note 14)

[https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/hotkey-setup/+bug/36576 36576]

+ F8

CRT/LCD

Untested

No (Note 2)

Untested

+ F10

Eject CD

No

Yes

Yes

[https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/hotkey-setup/+bug/33778 33778]

Other special keys

Key

Operation

Keycode

Works?

Bug #

in Breezy (current stable)?

in Dapper 6.06.1 (current stable)?

in Edgy Knot 3

Fn + Up Arrow

Brightness Up

Yes

Yes (Note 11)

Yes (Note 11)

Fn + Down Arrow

Brightness Down

Yes

Yes (Note 11)

Yes (Note 11)

Fn + PgUp

Volume Up

Yes

Yes

Yes

Fn + PgDn

Volume Down

Yes

Yes

Yes

Fn + End

Mute on/off

Yes (Note 9)

Yes (Note 12)

Yes

CD-Drive Button

Eject CD

Untested

Yes

Yes

Notes

(1) The correct resolution for my screen is 1400x1050. Neither Breezy nor Dapper could detect and set this up correctly. In Breezy, the correct resolution could be achieved by using 855resolution and editing some configuration files. In Dapper the user must manually install 915resolution (the improved rewrite of 855resolution). This package (now) needs only be installed and it sets up everything for me - determining the correct resolution and creating the configuration for 915resolution.

(2) This works fine at 1280x1024 for me. I push the CRT/LCD hotkey once and the display swaps to the external screen. I push it again and it mirrors the display on both. I push it again and the display returns to LCD-only. If I have my screen on the native 1400x1050 (see Note 1) then pushing once gives an error on the monitor saying "Input not supported" because the screen only supports up to 1280x1024. I need to test on a better screen. If I push it again, it mirrors correctly. Pushing it again returns to LCD-only.

(3) Using Gnome-Power-Manager in both. Regardless of the method used, the hibernation does not work properly. In Breezy it worked occasionally, immediately re-awoke, or hung with the screen blank and nothing to do but a hard power off [https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/3490 Bug #3490]. In Dapper I have never had it work - it either hangs or re-awakes. ["tthorb"]: It works for me, in both Breezy and Dapper, but in Dapper the specialeffect of the touchpad are gone, and two times X went down after rewake.

(4) Network-Manager does not re-establish networking properly after a suspend or hibernate. ["tthorb"]: This also works fine for me. Works fine on Dapper Flight 6, not on Breezy - ["LunaTick"]. I have not tried Network-Manager in Breezy, you're probably right. But I've discovered that if I suspend during a search for DHCP (for example if I've tried to get in to an open network, that don't allow me), the suspend occationally fails. Will try to look for a bug-thread that covers this question. - ["tthorb"]

(6) Using Network-Manager.

(7) Bluetooth support works, but it is pretty awful. I can't easily change the PIN (changing /etc/bluetooth/PIN) seems to break other things. To get it working means that I have to add the Universe repository and then install 3 separate packages. The packages do not feel at all integrated and, while functional, it isn't very good. I believe that the whole system will be overhauled.

(8) The modem is a winmodem and does not work in a default install. I really think the whole winmodem thing needs to be handled better. According to the previous maintainer, a proprietary modem driver can be obtained from linuxant.com site (hsf). A free version of driver limits DL speed to 14.4 kbps but you can pay $20 and get the driver for 56k and fax capabilities.

(9) $ cat /proc/net/irda/discovery gives: cat: /proc/net/irda/discovery: No such file or directory ["tthorb"]: It pops up fine for me:

  • IrLMP: Discovery log: nickname: SIEMENS M65, hint: 0xb124, saddr: 0x36dd6cf7, daddr: 0x04578810

- But if I wan't to actually use the irda-port for communication, I have to manually load 'ircomm' and 'ircomm-tty'. LunaTick: tthorb, how did you get the Discovery log? Just by typing in that command without installing anything?

(10) The key now does nothing in the default install. One has to manually enable the feature in Gnome Power Manager preferences.

(11) This seems to be done in the BIOS and not through ACPI. As I understand things, this means that Ubuntu is currently unaware of changes to brightness or the brightness capability [https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/acpi/+bug/43572 Launchpad Bug 43572] [http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=337580 Gnome Bugzilla Bug].

(12) Interestingly, the mute toggle does not work if the speaker icon (the applet in the top-right) has been clicked and the slider is visible. ["tthorb"]: I have noticed that other Keyboard Shortcuts don't work when opening a "slider" from a panel (menus, network manager, left button-menu etc)

(14) This works the first time (as of 9 May 06) but not subsequent presses. I understand that this is due to Dells sending a key event when they are pressed, but not when they are released (or something) [https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/44154 Bug #44154].

(15) Dapper 6.06 Desktop CD: I need to use "Manually Edit Partition Tables" to install and this did not work at all - I got serious errors that stopped me going further. Dapper 6.06 Alternative CD: The screen blanks after all the packages are installed. I just pushed Enter twice and install finished ([https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xresprobe/+bug/47082 47082]). According to Edu: "I got the same problem. As I mentioned in #48106, in grub menu (just when installation begins), I selected 1024x768 vga resolution and the problem was gone." It could be my 1400x1050 screen. Dapper 6.06.1 Desktop CD: This seemed to work perfectly. Dapper 6.06.1 Alternate CD: The screen-blanking still occurs at the same point.

(16) The system sometimes fails to hibernate/sleep and immediately reawakes with [https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/61407 an error about tasks not stopping]. I ran about 10 tests of both hibernating and suspending and had the error occur twice - if it couldn't hibernate for that reason then it also couldn't sleep.

Touchpad

From http://web.telia.com/~u89404340/touchpad/

Feature

Works?

Bug # (Launchpad)

in Breezy (current supported)?

in Dapper 6.06.1 (current stable)?

in Edgy Knot 3

Button events through short touching of the touchpad

Yes

Yes

Untested

Double-Button events through double short touching of the touchpad

Yes

Yes

Untested

Dragging through short touching and holding down the finger on the touchpad

Untested

Yes

Untested

Middle button events on the upper corner of the touchpad

Untested

Yes

Untested

Right button events on the lower corner of the touchpad

Untested

Yes

Untested

Vertical scrolling (button four and five events) through moving the finger on the right side of the touchpad

Untested

Yes

Untested

Horizontal scrolling (button six and seven events) through moving the finger on the lower side of the touchpad

Untested

No

Untested

[https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/50082 50082]

Two finger for middle button (Needs hardware support)

Untested

No

Untested

[https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/50086 50086]

Three finger for right button events (Needs hardware support)

Untested

No

Untested

[https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/50087 50087]

Benchmarks

Process

Time (seconds)

OS

Windows XP-Home SP2

Dapper Drake 6.06

Edgy Eft Knot 3

Grub -> Login Screen loaded

29

[https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootCharting?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=dell-inspiron-510m-20060715.png 50]

[attachment:bootchart-edgy-20060920-7.png 51]

Shutdown -> Power-off

36

29

28

Suspend to RAM (sleep)

9

8

8

Resume from RAM (wake)

8

11

9

Suspend to HD (hibernate)

15

25

26

Resume from HD

9

36

36

  • These figures were the average of five tests using a stopwatch. The results were close enough together that the average should be a fairly good estimate of the actual time. There is much more variation in the sleep/hibernate figures (up to 3 secs from the average), but the times should be accurate to a few seconds.
  • The start-up figures do not tell the whole story; when Ubuntu has passed the login screen, it is a very short time until it is usable. Windows takes a much longer time between login and a usable desktop, but I decided not to measure it because a lot is due to virus scanners, automatic updates, firewalls etc.
  • When trying for the five tests of hibernation on Dapper, I had four failed hibernates. Windows never failed. Edgy Knot 3 failed once with [https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/61407 this error].

  • Resume times are taken to the point where I regain mouse movement.

Fixed in Current Development

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LaptopTestingTeam/Old/DellInspiron510m (last edited 2021-07-23 14:11:16 by aaron-whitehouse)