#Ubuntu-Meeting
Ubuntu-Meeting Log 2004-11-18
Topic: Community Council Meeting - Tuesday 07 December 2004 at 16:00 UTC: Agenda: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/CommunityCouncilAgenda 05:00 jlinares bona tarda 05:01 teo hi 05:03 mako #ubunut-meeting 05:03 mako BUST AN UNBUNUT 05:03 jordi Avall els pantalons! (we need to boost catalan usage in this conference...) 05:03 fabbione ehhehe 05:03 jdub jordi: that is very different to the spanish 05:04 jordi well, it's adifferent language after all :) 05:04 jdub sounds french ;) 05:04 seb128 yeah 05:04 jordi jdub: doh, I thought you said "abajo los pantalones" 05:04 jordi They tell me you said "Estoy buscando mis pantalones" 05:04 jordi Sooo, let's make that "Estic cercant els meus pantalons!" 05:05 jdub jordi: oh, avall is "take off"? :) 05:05 mako jdub: avail yourself of your pants 05:05 jordi "abajo" :) 05:05 jdub heh 05:05 jdub mako: NEVER! 05:05 jdub you will have to fight me! 05:06 quique we will... 05:06 mako believe me, i will 05:06 lamont__r agenda item #1 is jdub's pants? 05:06 mako if ubuntu has taught me anything, it's that TOGETHER, ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE 05:06 jordi I need to announce that jdub has been able to deliver a package maaaaany Debian people were waiting for. 05:06 quique and #2 is his underware 05:06 jordi It took like... 4 minutes to prepare. 05:06 sivang jdub : can you see this? 05:06 mako ok, so this meeting 05:07 mako i will "Run" this if nobody else wants to 05:07 smurfix_ quique: under_wear_. 05:07 quique i know... 05:07 jordi remember, you said you would not be able to run for 2 minutes. 05:07 mako elmo, Kamion: around? 05:07 elmo yes 05:08 Kamion yes 05:08 mako ok, so the agenda is, AFAIK, empty 05:08 smurfix_ It says "Any new maintainers?". 05:09 mako are there are new maintainers for the council to consider this week? 05:09 mako anyone here that wanted to be on that agenda but isn't? 05:09 mako or, any other business folks want to have mentioned? 05:10 mako otherwise, i think we should just do a bit of a summary from the conference and end it.. short and sweet :) 05:11 haggai yesterday there was some discussion about seeds, and the fact there isn't really a defined process for accepting/rejecting seeds mako is happy to add that to the list 05:11 mako or is this a TB issue? 05:11 mako Kamion? 05:12 haggai did anyone come up with ideas from the discussion yesterday about how this should be done? 05:12 jdub haggai: i'm writing a process document about it 05:12 jdub probably something to propose to the TB next week 05:13 haggai ok 05:13 Kamion mako: kind of crossover; I don't think it needs to be approved by the TB necessarily 05:13 haggai yeah, I think there is a community element to it 05:13 Kamion I guess process for accepting/rejecting proposals needs approval 05:14 mako haggai: do you want to give an executive summary of the problem at least and maybe people can communicate/discussion with jdub etc for something to bring to the TB next week? 05:14 elmo btw, we just lost bof room upstairs 05:14 mako or anyone else that is willing to do it? 05:14 jdub elmo: hrm? 05:14 lamont__r well, parts of the bof room... 05:14 lamont__r network connectivity crap 05:14 jdub mako: (task to write it was assigned yesterday) 05:15 haggai ok sounds like I missed a vital part :) 05:15 mako jdub: is it worth doing a summary of the problem 05:15 jdub haggai: i think you're right that it is both CC and TB relevant 05:15 haggai summary is basically, there isn't one. A procedure, that is. 05:15 jdub mako: yeah 05:16 jdub currently we are in perpetual seed freeze 05:16 jdub with matt and i confirming changes as required 05:16 jdub at the moment, we are confirming things that are required to continue development 05:16 jdub such as new dependencies, etc. 05:17 jdub but we also have the open proposals (see SeedManagement on the wiki) 05:17 jdub there is no documented process or responsibility for ensuring those proposals are dealt with 05:18 mako so it's a process issue for getting packages added to hoary basically? 05:18 jdub added to base/desktop/supported 05:18 jdub we'll have to have a bigger discussion about universe and multiverse mako agrees with Kamion that this is a CC issue as well as a TB one 05:19 mdz mako, basically 05:19 mdz we know what the requirements are for the process 05:19 mdz but it has not been written yet 05:20 elmo mdz lives 05:20 mdz barely 05:21 mako for those that are not in mataro, mdz is sick 05:21 Kamion and then there's the illness 05:21 mako and sabdfl is away for a couple days 05:21 mako Kamion: :) 05:21 Kamion should be back tomorrow morning or so 05:21 jdub (ripe for coup_ 05:21 mako jdub: alright, so we should definitely move quickly.. 05:21 mako i mean, with the seed prososal document 05:21 mako right 05:22 jordi mdz: ugh, I didn't know :/ 05:22 fabbione (that's because mdz didn't have enough burbon yesterday night btw) 05:24 mako ok 05:24 mako so i am happy to do an update for folks not at the conference 05:24 mako and then we can call it quits unless other people have things 05:25 mako about 50 of us have arrived in mataro already i believe 05:25 mako and we've had two days of the conference almost over 05:26 mako almost all of the canonical employess are here already 05:26 mako and the rest are guests from spain a and from outside who have come 05:26 mako we've had a handful of bofs on a number of topics.. yesterday saw the hoary feature goals LOVEFEST 05:27 mako and a bof on seedmanagement and an effort by myself and some others on input methods 05:28 mako we are also talking a bit about anothre canoncial project called launchpad 05:28 mdz the process needs to ensure that proposed packages meet the criteria, which are fairly well-specified 05:28 mdz and that there is an opportunity for discussion 05:29 mako which includes a number of tools that, in the near future, ubuntu will be using to make making ubuntu easier.. and doing a whole lot of other things that involve working on free software and open source in general easier as well 05:30 mako we'll be having an open day with lots of other people from barcelona and beyond this satruday 05:30 mako and other than taht we will focus on a handful of bofs and sessions a day and a lot of hacking :) 05:31 mako that's my summary :) 05:31 mako so is there anything else? 05:31 mako Kamion, elmo? 05:32 elmo not from me 05:32 mako alright then.. 05:32 mako next tuesday for the TB meeting and two weeks from today for the next CC meeting 05:32 Kamion nothing from me 05:33 Kamion thanks for the summary 05:33 mako maybe an agenda next week :) 05:33 mako or in two weeks 05:33 Kamion let's hope so :) 05:33 Kamion the CC has been quiet agenda-wise recently 05:33 Kamion which I'm not entirely sure is a good thing, but we can talk about that later :) 05:33 jordi mako is mine now. We have... issues to solve. 05:33 mako Kamion: i share you concern mako adjurns the meeting 05:35 mako thanks everyone for coming! 05:35 mako laptop bof will be starting for those in mataro