12:19 Kamion we should probably get started even though mako's not around 12:19 Kamion (properly) 12:20 Kamion I don't know about anyone else but it's pretty late here and I'm already tired 12:20 Seveas +1 12:20 Kamion so the first item on the agenda is: 12:20 Kamion Continuing the IRC network discussion 12:20 Kamion can I go and hide now? 12:20 Seveas that's still waiting on a sabdfl-aware meeting 12:20 Kamion all right then 12:20 Hobbsee surely that's not being discussed again :P 12:20 Kamion # 12:20 Kamion Call for nominations for the "Localisation / Translation Team Leader". We would like to call for folks to volunteer to be considered as the coordinator of Ubuntu translation efforts using Rosetta. This person would keep in touch with translation teams, coordinate with Jordi and Carlos w.r.t. Rosetta developments, and coordinate with Martin and Doko w.r.t. language pack development. 12:20 Kamion * 12:20 Kamion For next meeting danilos, OgMaciel and carlos will be providing a more complete 'Job Description' 12:21 Kamion * 12:21 Kamion I'd like to apply for this position. OgMaciel 12:21 Kamion OgMaciel: here? 12:21 OgMaciel Kamion, yup === kwwii [n=kwwii@p5495500E.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Konversation] === steppe [n=steppe@Home0.HomeNet.Odessa.UA] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 12:21 Kamion I'm pinging Jordi and danilos on the off-chance that they might be around this late 12:21 Kamion since they haven't provided the promised job description yet 12:21 OgMaciel Kamion, I sure hope so 12:21 Seveas I pinged jordi a few minutes ago, no response 12:22 Seveas dailos is danil[out] 12:22 OgMaciel Kamion, they've emailed the CC a document 12:22 OgMaciel Kamion, the document contains all the details 12:22 elmo no they haven't 12:22 elmo oh, carlos has 12:22 OgMaciel elmo, I was cced on this 12:22 OgMaciel yup 12:23 Kamion ah yes, found it 12:23 OgMaciel ;) 12:23 Kamion http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/tmp/ubuntu-l10n-coordinator.txt for reference 12:24 Surak Kamion: 403 12:24 Kamion it should go somewhere more permanennt 12:24 Kamion Surak: fixed, thanks 12:24 Ubuntuser done 12:25 elmo do we have any other volunteers/nominations yet? 12:26 pygi EdgyEft, how can one found out what positions exist/are open? I remember reading it somewhere before :P 12:26 pygi elmo* 12:26 elmo ehm 12:26 elmo that's kind of a good point -has this job description been mailed anywhere? 12:27 gnomefreak i thought it was on ubuntu.com somewhere pygi === BHSPitMonkey [n=stephen@adsl-68-95-246-24.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 12:27 Seveas elmo, not that I know of 12:27 bddebian I have GOT to get home... 12:27 Kamion if you guys are thinking of http://www.ubuntu.com/employment, it's not there (and shouldn't be, it's not a paid position) - I don't know of any other list of "open positions" 12:27 mako back all 12:27 Seveas it might be a good idea to post it on -users and/or an announce mailing list 12:27 Seveas wb mako 12:28 pygi Kamion, I thought it was somewhere under special part of ubuntu 12:28 pygi ubuntu.com === Kamion pokes through a few mailing lists 12:28 bddebian Kamion, elmo, mako: Apologies for butting in but i have to leave. Please give +1 to welshbyte, Fujitsu, and trappist for me. 12:28 Kamion pygi: feel free to find it 12:28 Surak Kamion: are those paid positions subject to scrutinity in a CC Meeting? 12:28 jono Kamion, I think a list of open positions would be a good idea :) 12:28 pygi Kamion, well, I don't think it is there anymore :) 12:28 trappist bddebian: thanks === pygi agrees with jono 100% 12:29 elmo Surak: no 12:29 elmo Surak: Ubuntu isn't paying them 12:29 jono I will add it to my list :P 12:29 mako Surak: just can pay anyone to work on any part of ubuntu you'd like 12:29 mako Surak: so can mark 12:29 Seveas <pedantic> then the jobs should probably on canonical.com instead of ubuntu.com </pedantic> 12:29 jono Surak, canonical pays those positions 12:29 mako Seveas: they really should 12:30 elmo ok, so before we go any further with this translator thing, can we get the call and description mailed somewhere, and maybe put on the website 12:30 mako or at least presented in a way that makes it clear that those are canonical jobs related to ubuntu and other people should be able to advertise jobs there === mruiz [n=mruiz@pc-64-66-104-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 12:30 Seveas elmo, ok, I'll mail it to -users and prod mdke for website 12:30 imbrandon mako, +1 12:30 elmo Seveas: which -users? 12:31 elmo there's a rosetta-users or launchpad-users or something 12:31 Kamion why -users? 12:31 Kamion surely ubuntu-translators is the right list === josevitor [n=josevito@201.72.98.95] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 12:31 Seveas launchpad-users I meant 12:31 Seveas ubuntu-translators is fairly dead 12:31 Kamion ubuntu-translators, cc to rosetta-users, perhaps 12:31 Seveas ack 12:31 Kamion Seveas: the mailing list archives show active debates 12:31 Seveas hmm 12:31 Kamion I mean not *lots*, but more than dead === Seveas should check whether he is still subscribed then 12:32 jenda fairly dead doesn't mean no one reads them 12:33 Seveas anyway, sending it to those lists sounds like a much better idea than mine so I'll do that === simira [n=simira@tellus.err.no] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 12:34 elmo ok - so let's revisit that next meeting then after we've had a chance to actually get some nominations/volunteers :) 12:34 elmo what's next? === mako nods 12:34 elmo any locoteam folks here? 12:34 Kamion phone 12:34 mako right 12:35 mako any local communities who are on the list AND present should speak up to introduce themselves 12:35 Seveas should we at some point prune old loco/member items from the agenda? 12:35 Seveas as you can see, a few are on the agnda for months now 12:35 mako yes 12:36 mako that's probably a good idea 12:36 mako alright then 12:36 jono by the way, I am going to be working on LoCo teams 12:36 elmo Seveas: could you mail the older ones explaining why and then prune them? 12:36 Seveas elmo, ack 12:36 elmo Seveas: (nicely ;-) 12:36 mako jono: be careful how much you take on right away :) 12:36 jono I am hoping to clear up LoCo teams a bit 12:36 elmo Seveas: cool, thanks 12:36 jono mako, heh, step by step :) === Seveas does a happy dance for jono 12:36 elmo ok, so new member applicants 12:36 mako jono: i've had much of your job before, i know this :) 12:36 jono Seveas, :) === nixternal puts a fence around Ubuntu Chicago - no pruning needed here ;) 12:37 elmo first of all, sound off if you're a new member applicant and here 12:37 trappist here 12:37 Seveas CypherBIOS seems to be the first on the list who is here 12:37 EtienneG here 12:37 gnomefreak nixternal: wasnt that oked? 12:37 jono here 12:37 welshbyte here 12:37 CypherBIOS I am, 12:37 CypherBIOS here 12:37 Seveas I'll try and poke ones that are unfindable atm 12:37 ompaul Seveas, flannel is mia 12:37 mako best to at least mention their names here 12:37 mako RolandoBlanco whitesoft, no here? 12:37 Seveas no 12:38 mako Kirjanov Denis kirjanov, not here? === josevitor [n=ubuntu@201.72.98.95] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 12:38 mako NealBussett Flannel, we've just heard is not here 12:38 mako Ahmad Muammar y3dips, not here? 12:38 mako Rafael Proena CypherBIOS: you're up === CypherBIOS here 12:38 Seveas -SeenServ- I haven't seen y3dips recently 12:38 Seveas same for kirjanov 12:39 mako CypherBIOS: have your introduction ready? 12:39 CypherBIOS mako: yep 12:39 mako if others in line do not yet have a short intro typed up for pasting, please get that ready 12:39 CypherBIOS My name is Rafael Proena, aka CypherBIOS. 12:39 mako we'll go in order but people may not be here so you may up sooner than you think 12:39 mako CypherBIOS: please, go ahead 12:39 CypherBIOS mako: tnx 12:39 CypherBIOS First, here is the links for my WikiPage: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CypherBios 12:39 CypherBIOS and in the launchpad https://launchpad.net/people/cypherbios 12:39 CypherBIOS There is complete explanation about me, my work and contributions on the web, but here goes a summary: === Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@203.23.49.35] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 12:39 CypherBIOS (to economize space, see all links that I mention in my WikiPage) 12:39 CypherBIOS I'm working with/to/in Ubuntu since Warty, using the Hoary beta. 12:40 CypherBIOS My principal contribuition with Ubuntu is in the Brazilian Community, where I've created, with the help of some amazing people, the Ubuntu Brazilian Documentation Team that now is one of the major teams and force within the Brazilian Community. I'm also the organizer and mantainner of the structure of Wiki Ubuntu Brazil. 12:40 CypherBIOS Organizer and mantainner of the structure of Wiki Ubuntu Brazil. I got the power to move/remove the pages ;) 12:40 CypherBIOS I am a Planet Ubuntu Brazil autor, where I post some articles and news about Ubuntu to keep the community up-to-date. 12:40 CypherBIOS I've helped vdepizzol and others to organize and migrate the www.UbuntuBrasil.org interface and estructure. Making the usability work together with praticity :) 12:40 CypherBIOS I'm developing a GUI-based tool called APTonCD, this is developed in Python and GTK for Ubuntu. To know more about the project, see http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net 12:41 OgMaciel cyphase, don't forget about APTonCD <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/APTonCD> 12:41 CypherBIOS basic... is it ;) sorry for the flood 12:41 OgMaciel CypherBIOS, , don't forget about APTonCD <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/APTonCD> 12:41 CypherBIOS OgMaciel: tanks 12:41 elmo CypherBIOS: ehm, you wrote your own planet rather than use the existing one? 12:41 CypherBIOS elmo: no, use thee existing 12:41 OgMaciel elmo, that was actually done by Meyer === DBO [n=DBO@unaffiliated/dbo] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === licio is now known as Spl4y 12:42 elmo I'm confused. is it the same source code as the planet used on planet.ubuntu.com? i.e. the one written by Scott + Jdub 12:42 Kamion ok, sorry, back; was catching up with mdz-land 12:42 Seveas no, -br uses a php based planet 12:42 elmo if it is - what do you meant by author. if it's not - why? 12:42 OgMaciel elmo, no... it is written from scratch by Meyer 12:42 elmo boggle 12:42 elmo ok 12:42 OgMaciel elmo, he is syndicated 12:42 OgMaciel :) 12:43 Ubuntuser elmo, called Phplanet.. 12:43 elmo oh, what a confusing use of the word "author" 12:43 elmo anyway, I get it now, don't mind me 12:43 OgMaciel :) 12:43 CypherBIOS elmo: sorry ;) 12:43 Seveas OgMaciel, (or any other -br member) -- we need some testimonials 12:43 OgMaciel Seveas, mine is at his wiki page 12:44 OgMaciel Seveas, he has my 100% support 12:44 Seveas ah, didn't finish the entire page yet 12:44 elmo CypherBIOS: you might want to change "Author of Ubuntu Brazilian's blog agregator." on your wiki page to "Author on" to make it less confusing 12:44 Seveas well done, collecting testimonials there 12:44 Surak Ubuntu Documentation Team is going really fine. 12:44 Ubuntuser Seveas, i cannot put my testimonial.. but CypherBIOS have my 100% too 12:44 CypherBIOS Seveas: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CypherBios 12:44 OgMaciel CypherBIOS, has brought in a great group of individuals and created a great infra-structure of documentation 12:44 CypherBIOS elmo: I'll 12:45 Surak Seveas: same as ubuntuser. I support CypherBIOS fully. 12:45 CypherBIOS Ubuntuser, OgMaciel, Surak: tanks === OgMaciel urges elmo mako Kamion and Seveas to check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/APTonCD === Fujitsu_ [n=Fujitsu@203.23.49.35] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 12:46 AndreNoel cypher is doind a great great great work with doc 12:46 josevitor idem 12:46 elmo hmm, rosetta got a lot more shiny 12:46 Surak Documentation team seems today one of the most active parts of the Brazilian LocoTeam work. 12:47 Seveas OgMaciel, at the risk of going offtopic -- I've been implementing a similar thing recently -- if interested, let's talk after the meeting 12:47 AndreNoel i think that brazilian doc team needs CypherBIOS 12:47 OgMaciel Seveas, great... we have a good team behind it too 12:47 LinuxBA here 12:47 CypherBIOS Seveas: I interested, I will 12:47 mako this all looks great 12:47 mako i'm happy with membership 12:48 Seveas couldn't agree more 12:48 OgMaciel josevitor has asked to me to state on his behalf that he supports CypherBIOS === KurtKraut [n=ktk@unaffiliated/kurtkraut] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 12:48 CypherBIOS mako: tanks 12:49 elmo yeah, ack from me too 12:49 OgMaciel CypherBIOS, congrats buddy! 12:49 Seveas OgMaciel, not yet ;) 12:49 jono :) 12:49 LinuxBA CypherBIOS, congrats 12:49 Ubuntuser CypherBIOS, parabns em bom portugus! :) 12:49 OgMaciel Seveas, ooops 12:49 AndreNoel hehe 12:49 OgMaciel Seveas, slippery finger 12:49 Surak Easy people ;-) 12:49 OgMaciel hehehe 12:49 Seveas Kamion, still has to give his ok 12:50 CypherBIOS Seveas, mako, elmo, Kamion: so, I'm aboard? 12:50 Kamion sorry, conversations with mdz tend to require a fair bit of follow-up - yes, ack for CypherBIOS 12:50 AndreNoel congrats CypherBIOS!! 12:50 Seveas CypherBIOS, NOW you are ;) 12:50 OgMaciel CypherBIOS, NOW congrats buddy! 12:50 mako alright 12:50 Surak Now congrats! 12:50 CypherBIOS Kamion: tanks ;) 12:50 OgMaciel :) 12:50 Seveas congratulations! 12:50 jono CypherBIOS, congrats! :) 12:50 AndreNoel Yo! 12:50 Ubuntuser :) 12:50 CypherBIOS Seveas: ;) 12:50 mako Brendon Toogood Brendon8 12:50 mako around around? 12:50 Surak Parabns rapaz! 12:51 CypherBIOS Tanks for all ;D 12:51 josevitor yeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhh! 12:51 AndreNoel Yip Yip Hurra! 12:51 Seveas brendon8 is MIA 12:51 CypherBIOS Surak: valeu! 12:51 LinuxBA uahuahauhauhauhauha 12:51 mako Rocco Stanzione trappist: you're up 12:51 Ubuntuser Yip Yip hurra.. is good! 12:51 josevitor Viva viva viva! 12:51 trappist hi 12:51 Ubuntuser hehe 12:51 josevitor Bravo!! 12:51 guilhermee CypherBIOS, good job :) 12:51 mako calm down guys ;) 12:51 Seveas -br folks: please calm down 12:51 trappist so, paste an intro? 12:51 mako trappist: please, 12:51 guilhermee Seveas, sorry :P 12:51 trappist Hi I'm Rocco Stanzione. I started out on redhat 6 in 1999, moved to mandrake a couple of years later. 12:51 trappist I was active in Mandrake, a member of the "club" and of the security team. I switched to Debian about 12:51 Ubuntuser Seveas, one more to family 12:51 trappist 2 years ago for political and professional reasons and liked it a lot. I tried Ubuntu just after 12:51 trappist breezy was released and decided, hopefully for the last time, that this was the distro for me. Since 12:52 trappist then I've been active in the community on as many fronts as I'm capable of contributing to, and maybe 12:52 trappist 1 or 2 more ;) I'm on the doc team where I made decent contributions to the serverguide and have 12:52 trappist proofread extensively, and I'm in the process of writing a securityguide. I peruse bugs often, and 12:52 trappist try to fix any that I can. I have a partial list of bugs to which I've uploaded patches, if you like. 12:52 trappist I also report bugs, help out on #ubuntu and #kubuntu, and make occasional contributions to the wiki. 12:52 trappist I'm the author of ipkungfu, the new version of which I'm working on getting packaged, and I run 12:52 trappist #iptables on freenode. In real life I currently work for an airline consultancy, running the network 12:52 trappist and helping to write applications for airlines to manage their maintenance programs, FAA compliance 12:52 trappist documentation, etc. I have a wife and a daughter, both of whom are surprisingly supportive of the 12:52 trappist time I spend working on geek stuff like ubuntu. === Seveas does some cheering for trappist because of his bug work === trappist thanks Seveas after some recent headbutting === jenda joins in because of the support in #ubuntu (he helped me once ;)) 12:53 Lure yep, trappist does a great job on bugs 12:53 gnomefreak trappist: has been helping out in kubutnu more and more and he just like 3 minutes ago helped someone in -bugs :) 12:53 gnomefreak +1 for trappist 12:54 ompaul +1 trappist for general support I have seen him do 12:54 LaserJock trappist helped out quite a bit with the Dapper documentation doing proofreading and making sure we had a consistent style 12:54 imbrandon +1 from trapist from me too 12:54 imbrandon s/from/for 12:55 Riddell trappist has been known to fill my inbox with kubuntu related bug triage, which I'm all for 12:55 Kamion that's a lot of bug karma 12:55 Hobbsee quick! lets spam Riddell's inbox some more! 12:55 imbrandon hehe 12:55 jono Hobbsee, woo! 12:55 trappist Riddell: I wouldn't have thought you'd notice :) 12:55 Seveas Kamion, bug karma increases quickly since recently === sng [n=sng@unaffiliated/scarynetworkguy] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 12:56 Seveas mine has had a few 100k more than just a few weeks ago 12:56 gnomefreak my understanding its gonna be changing alot 12:56 trappist is it also gonna be documented a lot? I have no idea how it works 12:56 imbrandon yea i went from 15k to 190k in like 2 weeks reciently 12:56 Seveas not saying that trappist isn't doing a great job, because he really is doing a great job 12:56 Surak Mine has multilplied by 3 some time ago. 12:57 CypherBIOS Surak: mine too ;) 12:57 mako trappist: i like the public key on your wiki page === crimsun [n=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === AlexRocha [n=AlexRoch@201.73.169.8] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 12:58 gnomefreak trappist: what names are LP and wiki under? 12:58 trappist gnomefreak: https://launchpad.net/people/trappist and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RoccoStanzione 12:58 gnomefreak ty had them backwards :( 12:59 Seveas (gnomefreak: links are on the CC agenda page) 12:59 elmo ack from me for trappist 01:00 Seveas \o/ 01:00 trappist that was a +3 from Seveas I think 01:00 imbrandon lol 01:00 jenda ...but he doesn't count. 01:00 Seveas trappist, only CC members can +1/-1 people 01:01 trappist Seveas: oh, I thought you were :) 01:01 nixternal trappist: i swore you were a member already ;) we need trappist, he is hookin' up the docs!! 01:01 Seveas I'm not -- The CC members are mako, Kamion, elmo and sabdfl === steppe [n=steppe@Home0.HomeNet.Odessa.UA] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 01:01 Kamion yup, +1 on trappist from me as well === josevitor [n=ubuntu@201.72.98.95] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Konversation] 01:03 Seveas trappist, you might need to bribe mako ;) 01:03 trappist I'm not above it 01:03 ompaul trappist, the rest are people saying your not a bad person or words to that effect === sng [n=sng@unaffiliated/scarynetworkguy] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] 01:04 trappist ompaul: gotcha. they're much appreciated :) 01:04 Surak mako hitchcock :-) 01:04 Ubuntuser :) 01:04 trappist m/sg mako let's work out a deal 01:04 welshbyte the suspense... :) 01:05 Spl4y *fear* 01:05 Ubuntuser Mako Sthephen King 01:05 Ubuntuser hehehe 01:05 OgMaciel :P 01:05 trappist I think I'm gonna hurl 01:05 Surak welshbyte: hold your heart to your own time :-) 01:05 mako yes, sounds fine :) 01:05 mako sorry about that 01:05 Seveas trappist, welcome aboard! 01:05 mako i am trying to juggle a GPLv3 meeting that is going on concurrently 01:05 Ubuntuser \o/ 01:05 trappist woohoo! thanks everybody! 01:06 Fujitsu_ Ouch, mako. 01:06 Surak Congrats Rocco! 01:06 trappist Surak: thanks 01:06 mako i'm mostly just watching over there but but they just asked my opinion about something :) 01:06 Seveas heh 01:06 LinuxBA trappist, Congrats 01:06 nixternal congratulations trappist!!! lets go do some KUbuntu docs now...we only have 9 more days until our freeze ;) 01:06 mako Andy Price welshbyte 01:06 Spl4y trappist, congrats :) 01:06 Ubuntuser Congratulations trappist 01:06 mako welshbyte: you around? 01:06 welshbyte ok here goes :) 01:06 jenda congratulations ;) 01:06 trappist much thanks everybody 01:06 welshbyte My name is Andy Price [wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AndyPrice , LP: https://launchpad.net/people/andy-price ] I'm 23 (24 in a couple of days) and I'm going into the second year of a Computer Science degree course at Swansea University. 01:07 gnomefreak congrats trappist 01:07 welshbyte I've been using GNU/Linux systems for about 4 years. I worked my way through a handful of distros including Mandriva and Fedora before finally settling on Ubuntu around the time of Hoary. Now even my Mother uses Ubuntu, which has given me great insight into usability issues from a non-technical perspective. 01:07 welshbyte Last year I was president of Swansea University Computer Society (of Alan Cox fame) and this year I'm its treasurer. Along with that, I've also been a systems admin for the society - we run web/email/ftp/etc services from a small room on campus. We have about 150 members and we always keep a stock of Ubuntu CDs in our computer room to offer to members. 01:07 welshbyte I am the maintainer of a python/glade easy-backup application called pybackpack which I resurrected from a 2005 Google Summer of Code project which was pronounced "dead". It needs a lot of cleaning up but it has good potential. 01:07 welshbyte I filed my first Ubuntu bug last October and started irregular sessions of bug triage shortly after that, hanging out on #ubuntu-bugs and lurking on other Ubuntu channels out of interest. A couple of months ago I taught myself how to package debs and about a month ago I started participating in #ubuntu-motu along with #ubuntu-bugs and with more regularity than before. Since then I have been triaging bugs and taking 01:07 welshbyte an interest in MOTU activities. 01:07 welshbyte My recent contributions have mostly been helping out the MOTUs with packaging, merging, syncing and little jobs like writing a missing man page. I've also been helping bddebian look into some troublesome issues like maxima's GCL bugs and the Eclipse libraries problem. I now regularly read 10 ubuntu-related mailing lists and I'm starting to get a good feel for how the whole development system works. Details of my pac 01:07 welshbyte kaging contributions are listed on my wiki page. 01:08 Seveas any MOTU around for cheerleading? 01:08 welshbyte Along with merging/packaging/fixing for Universe I'm also happy to give other users in #ubuntu-motu some help with their own packaging and programming questions. I've found that the people that hang out in #ubuntu-motu, #ubuntu-devel and #ubuntu-bugs are hugely helpful and friendly and I enjoy being part of that community. I've also been known to lurk in #ubuntu+1 and #ubuntu-uk although I'm more interested in the d 01:08 welshbyte evelopment-related channels. === j_ack_ [n=rudi@p508D9854.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 01:08 crimsun I'll add because I have to return to a meeting that both welshbyte and Fujitsu_ make bug triaging and universe merges much more tolerable. They learn quickly and play well with the rest of the teams. 01:08 Seveas imbrandon had to leave but wanted to cheer for welshbyte too 01:08 elmo Dear Wiki, you are the SUCK. Love, James. 01:08 welshbyte I hope I can help the Ubuntu community fight the "battle of the bugs" and also help to take a chunk out of the huge amount of work the MOTU team have to undertake. As I learn more about the development process the number of contributions I can make to Ubuntu increases and it gets even more fun. Eventually I'd like to become a MOTU and help to keep the increasing number of packages in universe up to a high standard o 01:08 welshbyte f quality. Lots of work to do, but I enjoy it. 01:08 welshbyte Thank you for considering me as a Ubuntu member :) 01:09 welshbyte sorry, bit long wasn't it :) 01:09 imbrandon i'm still here but , yea welshbyte has my +1 , he helps alot 01:09 LaserJock yeah, I support welshbyte as well, he has been sticking to it and has been consistent on #ubuntu-motu 01:09 imbrandon in motu and learns fast 01:09 jono welshbyte +1 from me, excellent work :) 01:09 welshbyte thanks guys :) 01:10 elmo dear lord - personal wiki page in the 3rd person 01:10 imbrandon Seveas, it was bddebian that had to leave and gave a cheer for welshbyte and Fujitsu_ 01:10 Seveas urgh 01:10 imbrandon ;) 01:10 Seveas ok, well both of you now cheered for him, he should be happy ;) 01:11 LaserJock elmo: yeah ... interesting 01:11 elmo motu people: how long has welshbyte been doing motu-ish stuff? 01:11 welshbyte elmo: makes it easier to maintain if i die ;) 01:11 imbrandon [17:28] <bddebian> +Kamion, elmo, mako: Apologies for butting in but i have to leave. Please give +1 to welshbyte, Fujitsu, and trappist for me. 01:12 welshbyte bddebian is unfortunately the person i work with most :/ 01:12 LaserJock elmo: hmm, trying to think, he's been learning and hanging out in -motu for some time 01:12 crimsun 2 months at least 01:12 elmo ok 01:12 imbrandon elmo, about 3 or more months iirc ( from what i've seen ) 01:12 Surak I've seen welshbyte in #ubuntu-motu for quite some time now. === linuxmen [n=linuxmen@200-168-7-20.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Dilago [n=wqyps@201008063180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 01:13 welshbyte it's been a fun ride :) 01:14 elmo ok, ack from me === Ubug2 [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 01:15 Kamion yep, +1 for welshbyte, looks to be doing a good job and learning fast 01:15 mako yes, sounds good to me 01:15 mako WilliamGrant Fujitsu 01:15 welshbyte :D 01:15 Fujitsu_ Ah yes, me. 01:15 Seveas welshbyte, congrats! 01:16 mako Fujitsu_: go, go :) 01:16 Fujitsu_ Hi, I'm William Grant. I'm a 15-year-old student in Year 12 in Melbourne, Australia. I started out on Red Hat (7.0?) in mid-2000, when my father introduced me to it. I stayed there for a couple of years, moved to Mandrake, greatly disliked it, so moved to Slackware for about 1.5 years. I discovered Ubuntu just before the release of Hoary, and I haven't left since. 01:16 Fujitsu_ Around the release of Breezy I began to help a lot in #ubuntu. This continued until just after the release of Dapper, when I had to stop sitting in #ubuntu, as it was using up my download limit rapidly :(. 01:16 Fujitsu_ Also around the release of Breezy, YukiCuss and I formed the AustralianTeam, which I now manage the server for, and has around 170 people on the mailing list, and well over 50 members. 01:16 Fujitsu_ Since the move to Launchpad, I've been triaging bugs a fair bit. I'm not doing so much now, though, devoting more time to MOTUish activities. 01:16 Fujitsu_ I've merged and requested syncs for over 40 packages during the Edgy development cycle, with a few new ones yesterday. 01:16 mako LinuxBA: skipped you, you're next 01:16 mako LinuxBA: sorry 01:16 Surak Congrats welshbyte 01:16 LinuxBA okay 01:16 Seveas Fujitsu_, you're only 15?!? 01:16 LinuxBA mako, no prblem 01:16 Fujitsu_ Seveas, yup... 01:16 welshbyte thanks Seveas, Surak :) 01:16 Fujitsu_ As of two months ago. === jenda thinks age in and of it self should not be a criterion... 01:17 mako jenda: don't worry it's not 01:17 Seveas jenda, I don't consider it as such, I was merely very surprised 01:17 jenda as long as those two months were filled with significant and sustained contribution :) === Plug [n=crb@203-167-190-117.dsl.clear.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 01:18 elmo Fujitsu: you haven't applied for ubuntu-members in LP ? === Seveas does 3 cheers for Fujitsu, he likes to push buttons in Malone 01:18 Fujitsu_ elmo, I thought I was only meant to once I was approved. 01:18 Fujitsu_ Thanks Seveas :) 01:18 mako Fujitsu_: no, do it before the meeting 01:18 Fujitsu_ Ah, I'll do it now. 01:18 Kamion I do tend to hold younger people to a higher standard of sustainedness, personally, just because people who are still in school have a lot of demands on their time that they can't control 01:19 Kamion but Fujitsu's been around for a good long while 01:19 LaserJock I also support Fujitsu, he has been helpful for me in MOTU Science doing bug work and has certainly been helping out in -motu 01:19 imbrandon yea Fujitsu has been a great help with the merges, i have sponsored a few packages for him ( his LP +packages shows 40+ ) , he has a big +1 from me 01:19 elmo mutter 01:19 elmo don't use www.launchpad.net for links folks === KurtKraut [n=ktk@unaffiliated/kurtkraut] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 01:19 Surak Kamion: but they doesn't have a boss nor a wife. Those can take some time :-) 01:19 elmo it gives nasty SSL errors 01:20 Seveas heh 01:20 nixternal I support Fujitsu big time, he helped me alot with the Ubuntu Chicago web site, and helping with bug triage, and the work he does for Ubuntu AU 01:20 Seveas why is all of launchpad SSL'ed? 01:20 Seveas (don't answer - too offtopic, sorry) 01:20 elmo fujitsu: eh, what are your translation karma points for? 01:20 elmo please don't say en_AU 01:21 Fujitsu_ A bit of EO. 01:21 Seveas "G'day mate, welcome to Ubuntu" 01:21 Fujitsu_ Not a whole lot, though. 01:21 nixternal hahahahaha === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 01:22 elmo ehm, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/vpnc/+bug/53341 01:23 Ubugtu Malone bug 53341 in vpnc "0.3.3+SVN20051028-3ubuntu1 no longer works" [Untriaged,Fix released] 01:23 elmo Fujitsu: you did report that as a gcc bug, right? 01:23 Fujitsu_ Hm, I didn't end up reporting that, no. Oops. 01:23 elmo ok, please do 01:24 Fujitsu_ I'll file a bug in GCC's tracker, and add a gcc upstream task to the bug... === j_ack__ [n=rudi@p508D8E09.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 01:25 elmo anyway, ack from me 01:26 Kamion +1 for MOTU work, -0 for en_AU ;-) 01:26 elmo yeah, geez 01:26 elmo if I hadn't heard such good things about the AU loco team, I'd be like -0.5 for en_AU 01:26 Kamion I guess that tla en_AU locale has long been buried 01:27 Kamion the one that had "wanker" liberally sprinkled through the program's error messages 01:27 Seveas lol 01:27 jono hehe 01:27 Surak that "G'Day mate" should be recorded. It was a good one. :-) 01:28 mako yes, sounds fine 01:28 Fujitsu_ en_AU translations are stopped for the moment, as there's no way to make it a subtranslation of en_GB, which it should be. 01:28 mako Fujitsu_: welcome :) 01:28 LinuxBA Fujitsu, Congrats 01:28 Seveas \o/ congratulations! 01:28 mako LinuxBA: you're up 01:28 Fujitsu_ Thanks! 01:28 nixternal congrats Fujitsu!!! 01:28 welshbyte Fujitsu: good on yer :) 01:28 Ubuntuser :) 01:28 LinuxBA here 01:28 Surak congratulations, Fujitu) 01:28 Dilago ;) 01:28 Surak ops, Fujitsu_ 01:29 Ubuntuser hehehe Maxtor? 01:29 Ubuntuser hehehe 01:29 CypherBIOS Ubuntuser: :P 01:29 OgMaciel :P 01:29 LinuxBA Hi My name is Alexandro Silva aka LinuxBA. I've been using GNU/Linux systems for about 8 years 01:29 Fujitsu_ I was named after a hard disk >_< 01:30 LinuxBA I participate of the Official Brazilian Translation team Brazilian Security team as founding and others important teams in my country 01:30 LinuxBA I am a author of Ubuntu Brazilian's blog agregator, where I post some articles and news about Ubuntu to keep the community up-to-date about security news. 01:30 LinuxBA Today I work advocating the Ubuntu Linux in Bahia with apresentations at Universities and Foruns in my region. 01:30 LinuxBA I just recently helped the organization and ran the Ubuntu Brasil booth at the III Festival Software Livre da Bahia 01:30 LinuxBA I intend to work into the development of tools to facilitate the work of security officers and system engineers. I also want to help the number of Ubuntu Servers at Bahia. 01:30 LinuxBA More info about me pleasesee my WikiPage: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlexandroSilva and my launchpad https://launchpad.net/people/penguim 01:31 elmo ok, seriously Team Brazil, stop claiming to be "Author of <planet>", it's entirely confusing my sorry excuse for a brain. "Author on <planet>". kthx. 01:31 LinuxBA uhaha 01:31 Ubuntuser hehehe 01:31 Ubuntuser oh yes.. 01:31 OgMaciel LinuxBA is syndicated 01:31 CypherBIOS elmo: our mistake ;) 01:32 elmo linuxba: what does the ubuntu brazillian security team do? 01:32 KurtKraut elmo, this is a problem of translation. When they mean 'author' they just want to say that they are colunists of this website. 01:32 LinuxBA its a new team 01:32 Surak elmo: the english grammar seems specially confusing for us on this. 01:32 CypherBIOS Surak: yep, is just! 01:33 LinuxBA bugs patch 01:33 LinuxBA secutrity infos 01:33 OgMaciel elmo, LinuxBA has started an awareness program whereby he translates all security related notices and makes them available to the community 01:33 LinuxBA and divulging the Nubuntu Linux 01:33 OgMaciel elmo, but IMHO his strength lies in his advocacy 01:34 LinuxBA thanks Og 01:34 Ubuntuser in his lectures... 01:34 Ubuntuser good lectures about Security / Ubuntu 01:34 OgMaciel elmo, Ubuntuser, Surak and LinuxBA among others are very active at their home state 01:34 mako elmo: the particualrly funny part is that one of them *is* an author of the brazilian planet 01:34 mako elmo: although he's already a member 01:35 LinuxBA mako, thanx 01:35 OgMaciel mako, :P 01:35 Ubuntuser the Evangelization, mako.. ;) 01:37 OgMaciel elmo, Kamion mako Bahia, LinuxBA's home state, is considered to be one of the "poor" states in Brazil... and they pretty much pay out of their pockers to do the evangelization 01:37 OgMaciel pockets 01:37 OgMaciel Spl4y went there to lend them a hand 01:37 Ubuntuser +1 OgMaciel 01:37 OgMaciel and he also travelled out of his own expenses 01:37 Ubuntuser But nothing is impossible.. 01:37 OgMaciel I'm here supporting LinuxBA for his advocacy 01:38 CypherBIOS LinuxBA makes a great job in advocacy and evangelization, really 01:38 Spl4y OgMaciel, two hands :) 01:38 OgMaciel Spl4y, hehehe :P 01:39 Kamion ok, I'm sorry but I need to go and get some coffee, I can't concentrate 01:39 Kamion please carry on without me and I'll catch up 01:39 jono LinuxBA, ping me with your blog RSS feed, will add you to Planet Advocacy :) 01:39 Ubuntuser :) 01:39 LinuxBA okay 01:39 LinuxBA thanx 01:40 elmo hmm, yeah, I should probably focus too, I seem to have started reading about bahia in wikipedia 01:40 OgMaciel elmo, hehehe 01:40 LinuxBA uhauha 01:40 Seveas heh 01:40 Surak As I told on his wiki, his lectures are quite crowded. People fight to see him talk. LinuxBA, have you ever though about charging people to hear you? 01:40 ompaul good luck to all, I have to go 01:40 Seveas Surak, paying scares people away 01:40 mako LinuxBA: you say you've done 100,000+ translations === jono goes to make tea too 01:41 mako LinuxBA: you have that much karma, is that what you mean? 01:41 LinuxBA yes 01:41 mako i don't think you've translated 100,000 strings 01:42 mako i mean, it's absolutely possible 01:42 mako but your karma would be higher 01:42 LinuxBA ;-) 01:42 Ubuntuser The power of brazilians.. :) 01:43 OgMaciel hehe 01:43 AlexRocha ;) 01:44 elmo anyway, ack from me === Kamion ingests caffeine 01:46 Kamion +1 for LinuxBA from me, particularly based on testimonials for advocacy 01:49 Seveas 2 down 01:49 Seveas and a meeting rapidly feeling the ill effects of time 01:49 OgMaciel hehehe 01:49 jono heh 01:49 mako yes, the advocacy stuff sounds great 01:49 jono I am feeling the burn right now 01:49 mako jono: i think... 01:49 mako you're up 01:49 Kamion ok, just jono and EtienneG to go 01:49 jono been a hell of a long day :P 01:49 Surak Congrats LinuxBA 01:49 Seveas mako, hat implies a +1 from you? 01:49 jono ok, should I go? 01:49 LinuxBA uahuahuahauhauhauhauha 01:50 Ubuntuser \o/ Bahia in fest!!! \o/ - Congrats my friend... you deserve!!!!! 01:50 LinuxBA uuahauhauhauha 01:50 LinuxBA uahuahuahauhauhauahuah 01:50 LinuxBA uahauhauhauhauhauhau 01:50 Kamion jono: yep 01:50 LinuxBA jiaajiajiajiajiajiaja 01:50 Seveas LinuxBA, drop it 01:50 LinuxBA uhahuahauhauhauhauahua 01:50 LinuxBA iajiajiaja 01:50 mako Seveas: yes, sorry, postiive vote for me 01:50 jono My name is Jono Bacon, I have been a long-time contributor and advocate of free software, and I recently started at Canonical as the Ubuntu Community Manager. My contributions to Ubuntu are fairly recent, and have mainly involved testing, feedback and writing the Official Ubuntu Book. 01:50 AlexRocha Congrats!!! LinuxBA :D === Kamion ponders taking back that +1 01:50 mako jono: that's very concise 01:50 jono Outside Ubuntu I have been involved with a number of projects, including officially representing KDE in the UK, founding KDE Usability Study, KDE::Enterprise, Linux UK, Jokosher, Planet Advocacy, Wolves LUG, PHPWM, Infopoint and co-founding LUGRadio, LUGRadio Live 2005/2006 and more. I have also spoken around the world as an advocate at conferences and before starting at Canonical worked as a professional Open Source advocate for 01:50 jono a UK government funded organisation for two years. I have worked to build the worldwide LUGradio community (approx 15,000 regular listeners, 700+ forum members) and a strong Jokosher community which is steaming ahead in its progress. 01:50 mako hah 01:50 Kamion please stop flooding, LinuxBA 01:50 Dilago Concreats, LinuxBA!!! 01:50 jono I am committed to Ubuntu, and as UCM I will be working with LoCo teams, edubuntu and education, refining team relations, developing upstream community relations, increasing community contributions/advocacy, resolving conflict, helping ubuntu marketing and other things. In my two days working in the role I have already worked on LoCo, education, marketing, merch and upstream relations issues. 01:50 LinuxBA sorry 01:50 Ubuntuser one more to Brasil - Bahia!!! 01:50 LinuxBA felicity 01:50 jono I have a proven track record, and a proven committment to free software, and I am committed to making Ubuntu kick more ass than a guy with four legs and a pint of cider. 01:50 jono </end> 01:50 Seveas -1 for jono from me -- We should only support shaved bacon 01:51 jono Seveas, damn you! 01:51 Burgwork jono, sorry, but I just don't that you have done enough for ubuntu ;) 01:51 jono :P 01:51 jenda wow, not that concise anymore... 01:51 LinuxBA Surak, Ubuntuser OgMaciel 01:51 jenda Jono has been very helpful and friendly when discussing DIY Marketing with me. Besides, I trust Canonical's joice 01:51 jono heh 01:51 LinuxBA thanx 01:51 mako well, i worked for a long time with jono on the book 01:51 LinuxBA mucj thanx 01:51 LinuxBA much 01:51 Burgwork +1 from much 01:51 Burgwork s/much/me 01:51 jono Burgwork, heh 01:51 jenda hehe... ill effects of time, eh. 01:51 Seveas Burgwork, probably the 'much' is also correct 01:52 Ubuntuser i have to go.. good meeting! 01:52 mako and without him, it would have been a much worse (and much thinner) book === LinuxBA [n=alexos@20132220228.user.veloxzone.com.br] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Ex-Chat"] 01:52 Kamion +1 for jono, kind of obviously; even without the employment contract his book contributions were sustained and significant === Ubuntuser [n=deb-user@ubuntu/member/ubuntuser] has left #Ubuntu-meeting ["Ex-Chat"] 01:52 elmo jono: http://www.jokosher.org/ is broken 01:52 mako for FWIW, i fully endorse him for the the book work 01:52 jono bugger 01:52 Kamion looking forward to seeing the community prosper under his guidance 01:52 moitio elmo, heh, thats brilliant :) === mako nods to Kamion 01:52 elmo and yeah, ack from me for jono === Seveas nods along 01:53 mako jono: welcome, looking forward to good stuff :) 01:53 Seveas 3 acks 01:53 jenda jono: congratulations, and good night ;) 01:53 Seveas Welcome aboard! 01:53 jono woo! 01:53 jono thanks guys 01:53 jono oh and elmo, you broke jokosher.org, damn you :P 01:53 Kamion say hi to the lugradio lot from us 01:53 OgMaciel congrats jono 01:53 Seveas EtienneG, you're up 01:53 jono Kamion, will do :) 01:53 EtienneG here it is 01:53 EtienneG I have been a Ubuntu user since Warty 01:53 EtienneG I have been employed by Canonical as a support analyst in the Montreal office since July this year 01:54 EtienneG Which mean that I will get to come in contact with every interesting way Ubuntu can break eventually :) 01:54 EtienneG I have also been assigned some packaging responsabilities 01:54 EtienneG Notably, I am producing the debs of the latest release of bzr available on http://bazaar-vcs.org 01:54 EtienneG I have also produced the latest bzr/bzrtools packages for Edgy and dapper-updates 01:54 EtienneG which should find their way in the archive any time now 01:54 EtienneG In the recent past, I have been a huge Ubuntu advocate within my LUG and University 01:54 EtienneG and a huge abuser of the ShipIt service :) 01:54 Kamion (the most recent bzr failed to build, see your +packages page on launchpad) 01:54 elmo *giggle* 01:55 EtienneG (yeah I know, selftest break) 01:55 EtienneG I have distributed a few hundreds CD in LUG meeting, in the CS dept that I attended, 01:55 mako heh :) 01:55 EtienneG to co-workers and to acquaintance from the local public administration I was in contact with professionnally 01:55 EtienneG I was on sounders from March 2005 to April 2006 (I unsubscribe as the volume was just to high for me to keep up) 01:55 EtienneG My plan for Ubuntu are pretty simple 01:55 EtienneG I expect to continue contributing to the packaging of bzr for the foreseeable future 01:55 EtienneG As I get better at packaging, I would like to maintain a few packages in Universe eventually 01:55 EtienneG Since I provide professionnal service for Ubuntu, I expect to come in contact with a lot of bugs and problems from customers 01:55 EtienneG so I expect to be filing a lot bugs on behalf of customers in the future 01:55 EtienneG Thus, I take a close interest in QA 01:55 EtienneG If my schedule ever permit it (I work evening shift, not really good for RL meeting) 01:55 EtienneG I would really like to get involved in my LoCo 01:56 EtienneG it's somewhat dormant right now, I'd like to make it more active and visible 01:56 EtienneG In general, I am a lot into advocacy at the local level 01:56 EtienneG That's about it, thanks for considering me as a Ubuntu member ! 01:56 EtienneG questions ? 01:57 Kamion it's good to see people from Canonical teams other than the distro get gradually sucked into Ubuntu ;-) 01:57 jbailey You stunned them into silence. =) 01:57 EtienneG hey ! 01:57 mako Kamion: yes, definitely 01:57 mako jbailey: still reading 01:57 elmo ack from me 01:59 Kamion the actual contributions linked are shortish, but you didn't mention bzr/bzrtools on the wiki page, which I know is a reasonable chunk of work, so that helps 01:59 EtienneG Kamion, indeed, it's a work in progress 01:59 EtienneG I should have mentionned it 01:59 Kamion thank you for taking those on; they were languishing for a while there 01:59 EtienneG it's been an ... instructive experience 02:00 EtienneG :) 02:00 mako jbailey: do you have a testimonial? 02:00 Kamion +1 from me for that and anticipated profserv help :-) 02:00 mako EtienneG: yeah, the page is a bit thin 02:00 jbailey mako: My testimonial is from the watched-him-with-customers side, so I'm not sure how best to present it. 02:00 mako i guess we can talk about it later.. 02:00 mako i mean, the general case 02:00 jbailey mako: It's something that I don't think we've really looked at before, have we? From the works-with-deploying-to-customers-around-the-world. 02:01 jbailey I don't mean it as a secret, but I'm not sure how to put it. 02:01 mako jbailey: no, we haven't === mako nods 02:01 mako EtienneG: in any case, i'm happy accepting you as a member 02:01 EtienneG thanks ! 02:01 mako alright then === theCore [n=alex@modemcable069.137-83-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 02:01 mako that's it for this week 02:01 jbailey mako: I think it's probably an interesting case to consider, not just in the CAnonical case, but in the general case of support providers. 02:01 mako two weeks from today then 02:01 jenda theCore: you missed it :) 02:01 jbailey I don't know how it would be measured, though. === mako nods to jbailey 02:02 theCore jenda: *nod* 02:02 mako how about 12UTC 02:02 Kamion jbailey: yeah, it's a lot harder for extra-Canonical folks where we don't know their co-workers so well 02:02 Seveas please one week later 02:02 Seveas 2 weeks from now is eurooscon 02:02 mako Seveas: hmm 02:03 jbailey Kamion: I'll think on it and try to offer a proposal. 02:03 mako are any of the members going to eurooscon? === Seveas is 02:03 mako the CC members? 02:03 Seveas sabdfl 02:03 Seveas (according to the schedule I've seen) 02:03 mako right, but he won't make it in three weeks either ;) 02:03 Seveas heh 02:03 jenda Seveas: link? 02:03 elmo yeah, I suspect sabdfl is - it's on the calendar in the office 02:04 elmo unfortunately it being ONE AM, I don't have access to Avril to check sabdfl's schedule 02:04 mako alright 02:04 Fujitsu_ One AM!? Urgh. 02:04 mako lets end this now 02:04 Seveas 2 AM here ;) 02:04 Fujitsu_ 10am here :D 02:04 mako elmo: 12UTC in 2weeks work for you? 02:04 elmo mako: sure 02:05 jbailey elmo: You tell us this just to make the rest of us feel guilty for feeling tired. =) 02:05 mako with three weeks, the candidate list backs up 02:05 mako alright then 02:05 mako lets do that