05:00 Spec flint: hello 05:01 flint Spec, good morning from the Frozen North.... 05:01 YukiCuss flint, Spec, the hot down-under here? 05:01 Seveas Spec, YukiCuss: good to see you around - there's at least 2 points from the agenda that can be handled 05:01 Seveas I'm afraid it was too short notice for a few others 05:01 jsgotangco ahh .au team 05:02 YukiCuss :) === stgraber [i=steph@xeon.stargate-server.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 05:03 flint Seveas, based upon the current situation, I would wonder who is here from Media? :^) I am just here to get Nick Wheeler as a MOTU 05:03 Seveas flint, today no one is appointed MOTU - it's all about membership 05:03 jsgotangco that's TB 05:03 Seveas Kamion, elmo, mako - ping 05:03 Seveas 16:03 UTC here === Florob [n=Florian@xdsl-81-173-174-144.netcologne.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 05:04 Spec flint: membership first 05:04 flint Seveas, that is not what was said two weeks ago. can you send the agenda url to the screen? 05:04 Seveas wiki/CommunityCouncilAgenda 05:04 YukiCuss flint, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda ? 05:04 flint Seveas, thanks. 05:05 Seveas flint, you need to be a member before you can become a MOTU - for membership a cheerleading squad from the community is needed 05:05 flint YukiCuss, thanks even more :^) 05:05 Seveas for becoming motu you need other motus to vouch for you 05:05 flint Seveas, I represent the cheerleading squad. I am not interested in being a member of anything. 05:06 Seveas flint, ok, put on your dress and start dancing around 05:06 flint I was drafted into being the first DC LOCO 05:06 Spec flint's my cheerleader? dear lord... 05:06 jsgotangco what happened? 05:06 flint Seveas, my dancing is kinda like watching the Hindenburg land at Lakehurst NJ... 05:07 Seveas flint, that's way better than mine so go for it 05:07 Seveas anyway - the idle times of the CC members aren't promising... === sabdfl [n=mark@82.109.136.110] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 05:07 jsgotangco there's one 05:07 Seveas hi mark! 05:07 sabdfl hi folks 05:07 YukiCuss sabdfl! :) 05:07 sabdfl sorry to be late 05:07 jsgotangco 2 mor 05:07 jsgotangco e 05:07 Seveas you're the first one here for a change 05:08 jsgotangco sabdfl: actually you're not late 05:08 flint sabdfl, Hey Mark! 05:08 sabdfl flint! long time no see 05:08 sabdfl CC meting due now? 05:08 Seveas yes 05:08 flint sabdfl, trying to stay out of trouble... :^) 05:08 sabdfl meeting, that is 05:08 Seveas kamion/mako/elmo not in sight 05:08 sabdfl flint: you and me both 05:09 jsgotangco we seem to have low attendance today 05:09 sabdfl ok, have pinged the guys, will sms kamion and elmo too, sec 05:09 elmo I'm here 05:09 Seveas hi elmo! 05:10 flint sabdfl, if you want I can go wake up mdz :^) ...nah... 05:10 neuralis i can sms mako, if need be. 05:10 Seveas flint, mdz isn't on the CC ;) === silbs [n=jane@217.205.109.249] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 05:10 ogra flint, hey, youre here to work, not for your hobbies :) 05:10 flint ogra, lol 05:11 flint ogra, waking mdz is a religious experience! 05:11 highvoltage flint: what is this about? :) wiki.ubuntu.com/gins 05:11 jsgotangco gins? 05:11 flint highvoltage, changed the name to wiki.ubuntu.com/gin like the drink mostly... 05:11 jsgotangco heh 05:12 sabdfl https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda 05:13 Spec links2 doesn't support ssl :-/ 05:13 sabdfl vidya was asking earlier about recognition for hte Ubuntu Women's team 05:13 mdz flint: you are a menace to sleep === seb128 [n=seb128@ANancy-151-1-36-229.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 05:14 sabdfl elmo: are you happy to start without Kamion and mako, and then we can ask them to +1 / -1 member candidates based on the log and email? 05:14 elmo sabdfl: sure, if you want 05:14 sabdfl ok, lets do that 05:14 Amaranth kamion said something about picking someone up from school 05:14 sabdfl morning mdz === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 05:14 sabdfl locoteams! 05:14 flint gin is gnome instant nationalizaiton, a command line tool to change languages. 05:14 flint they need it in edubuntu classrooms.... not a big deal... 05:14 flint talked to olli about it and he seemd to be ok with it. 05:14 sabdfl YukiCuss: ping 05:14 flint later refactor in python and hook it to a gui if you want. 05:14 YukiCuss sabdfl, hello! :) 05:14 jsgotangco flint: shhh 05:14 sabdfl tell us about ubuntu down under === rbelem [n=rodrigo@ubuntu/member/rbelem] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 05:15 flint mdz damn, good morning!!! 05:15 YukiCuss We're just starting up work, more or less, but so far it's looking very promising. 05:15 Seveas gotta love random disconnects... 05:15 Seveas did I miss anything? 05:15 Amaranth i don't think so 05:15 mdz flint: I've been up since 0600, but damn you anyway 05:15 YukiCuss We've had our first meeting (just today), and we've got a roadmap organised (more or less) for how we're going to tackle various projects around here. 05:15 sabdfl Seveas: just getting started 05:15 Seveas thanks 05:15 sabdfl YukiCuss: where's here? 05:15 YukiCuss sabdfl, here is Australia. :) 05:15 jsgotangco that's a big place 05:15 jsgotangco heh 05:15 YukiCuss We've got members all along the east coast so far. 05:16 YukiCuss And we're hoping that we can find some more elsewhere. 05:16 elmo (Kamion is on his way) 05:16 Seveas YukiCuss, cool, what are you focussing on as team? 05:16 sabdfl YukiCuss: nice wiki page, wide spread of members across the country 05:16 sabdfl YukiCuss: are you all setup w.r.t. virtual server if you want it? 05:16 YukiCuss Seveas, at the moment we're looking at the three major groups; home users, business, and school. 05:16 Kamion hi, sorry I'm late, was picking the child up from school and had to run an errand in the meantime 05:16 YukiCuss sabdfl, yep, we've got that pretty much organised, just letting the delay of email take its toll :) 05:17 sabdfl Kamion: no worries, mate 05:17 sabdfl g'day 05:17 sabdfl ok, YukiCuss, are you the group leader, have you had any process to confirm that internally? 05:17 Kamion sigh 05:17 YukiCuss Particularly we're inspecting schools; demonstrations of how Ubuntu can be used inside a school, and also FOSS. 05:18 YukiCuss sabdfl, I am the group leader, and it's been confirmed that I'm the team contact at a meeting. 05:18 YukiCuss We had our first one today, it worked out well. :) 05:18 Seveas YukiCuss, do you promote edubuntu too? 05:18 ogra YukiCuss, you should get in contact with the edubuntu community :) 05:18 sabdfl it's nice for the CC to have a primary contact for a loco team - so that's great 05:18 sabdfl anything you'd like from the CC? 05:18 YukiCuss Seveas, ogra, of course. 05:19 jsgotangco increase the sheilas! 05:19 jsgotangco =) === svaksha [n=svaksha@unaffiliated/svaksha] has joined #ubuntu-meeting sabdfl, at the moment, we're hoping that we can get some form of priority with 05:19 YukiCuss ShipIt; we'd like to be able to get Dapper out here as quickly as we can, before the rush. 05:19 sabdfl jerome, you suggesting we have sufficient sheep? 05:19 YukiCuss (rush of downloads begins, that is; I think the convenience of a real CD will overwhelm them :)) Other than that, we're going to keep self-regulating (meeting every fortnight 05:20 YukiCuss has been agreed on and seems to be convenient), and see how we can let our projects take off. YukiCuss: local production an distribution depends on having a company locally 05:20 sabdfl that can do it well at great prices, if you have nominations, the right person to ping is hmb 05:20 sabdfl on freenode 05:20 sabdfl hande@canonical.com 05:20 YukiCuss Thanks! 05:21 sabdfl YukiCuss: we've yet to find a regional company that can do it cost effectively, but would love to get it working well 05:21 YukiCuss sabdfl, we've got a few people who are very interested in doing local mailouts. 05:21 Seveas YukiCuss, local mailouts rock 05:21 sabdfl we can probably do high priority shipment after release if you have a specific function or requirement 05:22 Seveas it's quite popular here in NL too 05:22 sabdfl anyway, thank you for checking in, and thanks for setting up the team 05:22 YukiCuss No problems! ^^ 05:22 YukiCuss Thank you. 05:22 Seveas YukiCuss, and sleep well ;) 05:22 sabdfl Kuyaedz? 05:22 Seveas not around 05:22 Seveas tried to ping him to no avail 05:22 sabdfl ok, let's move on 05:23 Seveas members or women? === sabdfl notes that Michael Moore is an interesting person to have on a Loco Team :) 05:23 sabdfl sheilas! 05:23 jsgotangco haha 05:23 ogra heh === YukiCuss grins. 05:23 Seveas :) 05:23 sabdfl is svaksha here? 05:23 svaksha yes , Vidya Ayer here 05:23 Seveas "#ubuntu-women on Freenode - officially recognised or not." 05:23 sabdfl svaksha: would you introduce Ubuntu Women, please? 05:24 Seveas is there such a thing as an official channel? 05:24 svaksha sure, 05:24 svaksha well I dont about the official bit ... 05:25 sabdfl svaksha pinged me earlier by email 05:25 svaksha Ubuntu Women is a group functioning under Ubuntu to provide a platform and encouragement for women to contribute to Ubuntu-Linux Membership is open to all. 05:25 sabdfl asking about official recognition of UbuntuWomen by Canonical, and I think recognition by the CC is more important 05:25 svaksha the non-official part i heard from another forums member Susana 05:25 svaksha ok 05:26 sabdfl svaksha: are there several different groups that are related to "women in ubuntu", or is your group the primary initiative? 05:26 Seveas I realy don't like to see women as a separate group, sounds very sexist - but I'm probably missing something 05:27 elmo Seveas: you are missing something 05:27 jsgotangco Seveas: we'll do ubuntu-blokes don't worry 05:27 elmo Seveas: you should probably review the history of debian women === soumyadip [n=soumyadi@59.93.241.33] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 05:27 elmo Seveas: that deeply flawed argument has come up before 05:27 sabdfl i tihnk it's very worthwhile to have a group focused on this 05:28 svaksha after I wrote to you last year , panickthumb from the forums mentiioned about this and I asked him to contact you or canonical directly 05:28 Seveas elmo, ok 05:28 sabdfl as long as we never have folks suggesting that the ONLY place for women in ubuntu is that group === baks17 [n=barkha@59.182.86.61] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 05:28 Kamion right 05:28 highvoltage i've been on the debian-women mailing list before, i've never seen so many "*hugs*" on a list before :) 05:28 sabdfl are there any other comments on the idea of having a group focused on "women in ubuntu"? 05:28 svaksha sabdfl, i dont know what happened after that but I noticed a URL registered in Dec and in Jan got your OK 05:28 ogra highvoltage, you dont share a list with dholbach, do you ? 05:29 ogra :) 05:29 sabdfl there is some concern that different groups are trying to achieve the same thing 05:29 highvoltage ogra: yep :) debian-women have mor! 05:29 sabdfl i would like to make sure everyone is talking together 05:29 jsgotangco sabdfl: the u-w list has been pretty active (im subscribed) 05:29 jsgotangco there's lots of promise 05:29 sabdfl jsgotangco: me too :-) 05:29 jsgotangco hah 05:30 Seveas <highvoltage> i've been on the debian-women mailing list before, i've never seen so many "*hugs*" on a list before <-- sounds like a list for dholbach 05:30 sabdfl svaksha: can we consolidate the different domains that have been registered by different people? 05:30 sabdfl and make sure everyone's working on the same initiative? 05:30 sabdfl are there any reasons why that should not happen? i think that ubuntu-women might be a good idea, not as a feminist activist 05:30 highvoltage group, or as a group for just women, but as a forum to discuss the general involvement of women in the project 05:30 svaksha no 05:31 G0SUB the issue is that there are a lot of unofficial UW sites / blogs / wikis ... we should try and get them together to avoid redundancy 05:31 highvoltage and to monitor current community activities and evaluate how we can involve the other half of the world population in ubuntu 05:31 sabdfl svaksha: so have you chatted with susana, and you're certain that she's happy to work with you? 05:31 Seveas highvoltage, agreed, as long as it's NEVER going to be women-welcom-only or women-only-welcome-there which is what I'm a bit afraid of 05:31 sabdfl Seveas: we will make certain of that, yes 05:31 highvoltage Seveas: agreed, I would think that 'they' feel the same 05:31 svaksha i did ask her to bring up the issue on the list 05:31 ogra Seveas, highvoltage i think thats up to the team to define itself ;) 05:31 Kamion highvoltage: mentorship seems valuable too 05:32 jsgotangco yes 05:32 jsgotangco its been asked 05:32 Seveas ogra, true that 05:32 svaksha its not women only ...please read this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWomen 05:32 sabdfl i'm pretty certain mako would be thrilled with this :-) 05:32 Seveas do I dare ask why? 05:32 highvoltage ogra: also agreed, it was just my attempt to explain that a group about women in Ubuntu may add value 05:32 sabdfl very nicely done wiki page, svaksha 05:32 Spec How many members are on the u-w list? 05:32 svaksha thanks 05:33 svaksha around 70+ 05:33 Kamion I like how that page lists technical skills first 05:33 svaksha yes but that scares away newcomers so Clytie toned it down a little 05:33 Seveas the wikipage looks very nice indeed a lot of women's-groups pages I've seen have almost seemed embarrassed at the 05:33 Kamion idea that technical skills might be involved, which always seemed incongruous to me - I like what you have there 05:34 Kamion oh, is that Clytie Siddall (spelling?) 05:34 svaksha yep 05:34 Kamion cool, encountered her sending huge piles of Vietnamese translations 05:34 svaksha :) The Ubuntu community is very well represented by the male persuasion, yet women 05:34 flint are a precious precious to this. As an individual married for over a quarter-century let me give you all some advice. They want a room, they get a room. 05:35 sabdfl #ubuntu-women it is then ;-) 05:35 svaksha thanks :) 05:35 jsgotangco yay! 05:35 sabdfl ok, any further comments? 05:35 highvoltage :) 05:35 Seveas yes, one comment 05:35 Seveas Welcome! 05:35 ogra :) 05:35 sabdfl ditto :-) === psusi wonders why they feel the need to associate with each other... have their own channel... go to the bathroom with each other... weird. 05:36 svaksha thanks to you all for the support and the CC too :) 05:36 Seveas psusi, 42 05:36 jsgotangco haha 05:36 flint psusi, if that is all you ever worry about... 05:36 Seveas ok, shall we move on to new members? 05:36 flint :^) 05:36 sabdfl psusi: there are greater mysteries in life 05:36 sabdfl like handbags 05:36 sabdfl i'm doing some research in this regard 05:36 azeem psusi: AIUI, the channel is welcoming male people as well? 05:36 Spec heh 05:37 neuralis sabdfl: it's a dead end. give up and run away while you still can. 05:37 Seveas sabdfl, they come from the bermuda triangle it seems 05:37 sabdfl ok 05:37 Seveas half the world can disappear into it 05:37 sabdfl members! 05:37 Whatsisname supposedly one guy completely figured out how women work 05:37 Seveas Spec, your 3-liner please 05:37 Whatsisname but he died of laughing before he could tell anyone 05:37 Seveas Spec == NicholasWeeler 05:38 sabdfl Whatsisname: easy, tiger 05:38 Spec Hello, I'm Nicholas Wheeler, and I'm applying for membership to help with the Ubuntu cause. I'm interested in becomming a MOTU eventually. 05:38 Spec Currently I'm involved in bug triaging of all sorts -- particularly interested in making the science packages, err, work. 05:38 Seveas is the MOTU cheerleading squad arround to support Spec ? 05:38 flint I am here to vouch for Nick. He is a good hack. 05:39 flint elkner would be here but he is busy teaching newer hacks. 05:39 ogra he wrote a great Howto on the wiki for mondo/mindi use :) 05:39 Seveas \o/ from me for doing bug triaging 05:39 Spec I also wrote a how-to for the broadcom 43xx card 05:39 flint ogra, indeed he did. 05:39 Seveas we need much more bug triagers 05:40 flint Seveas, i fully intend to understand Malone, I promise I will if you pass Nick. 05:40 flint :^) 05:40 Seveas Spec, your wikipage is not completely clear - for how long have you been contributong to Ubuntu? 05:40 Spec Contributing, only a couple of months. 05:41 Spec I've been using it since hoary I think. 05:41 psusi hehe... 42 05:41 Seveas couple of months sounds good, any MOTU to confirm that? 05:41 Seveas ogra, ? 05:42 flint I have not status here but I can confirm that by direct observation. === kjcole [n=kjcole@pchb1f.gallaudet.edu] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 05:42 Seveas flint, how is the DC loco doing, dormant or active? 05:42 ogra Seveas, he is the webmaster of the DC LoCo team, when went that online ;) 05:42 flint Seveas, the DC loco is represented by Kjcole who just joined. It is VERY active. ask him. 05:43 Spec It is very active. :) 05:43 Seveas nice 05:43 ogra Spec, are you innvolved in the edubuntu deployment thing in DC ? 05:43 flint kjcole, you need to say something glib, I know you can... 05:43 kjcole Hi all. Sorry to be late. ;-) 05:43 Seveas hi Kevin - please help Spec by cheerleading 05:43 Spec ogra: yeap 05:43 ogra cool ! 05:43 kjcole The DC LoCo's now got a few active bzr projects starting up. 05:43 sabdfl Spec: how was FOSE? === ogra cheers for Spec 05:44 Spec very very successful, gave out 1300 ubuntu cds 05:44 spacey thats quite a lot 05:44 Spec (+1300 opensuse, but that doesn't matter) 05:44 Seveas WOW 05:44 kjcole Nick and I represented the LoCo at FOSE, and it was a great show. 05:44 Spec We were very popular at the convention. 05:44 Kamion that MondoMindi page is pretty hideously hackish; can we please get the existing packages up to scratch instead? 05:44 Spec Being next to the bathrooms has it's advantages, i'll have to say... 05:44 Seveas (I need some point of reference - how big is the DC area, how many people live there?) 05:45 sabdfl +1 from me on Spec for membership based on advocacy and bug triage, not sure if elmo or kamion have additional questions 05:45 Spec Kamion: I believe in dapper they are up to scratch, in breezy it's a lost cause. 05:45 kjcole We also had the trifold Ubuntu brochures that I picked up at UBZ and handed those out as well. === atoponce [n=aaron@c-24-2-85-66.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting ah, I see that in the wiki page now, although it's kind of brief and easy to 05:45 Kamion skip over, maybe a bit more text is called for so that people don't go to more work than necessary 05:45 Kamion fair enough 05:45 kjcole (Unfortunately, I didn't have quite as many of those brochures. And I now wish I'd had bumper stickers as well.) 05:46 elmo yeah, kamion++, that wiki page is making me cry 05:46 flint Kamion, I am responsible for the hackishness of these pages, not nick. 05:46 jsgotangco kjcole: wink and you shall receive (hopefully) 05:46 Spec I'll edit flint's work to make it prettier :) 05:46 elmo if the "Not needed for >= Dapper" bit at the top could be highlighted, that owuld be good 05:46 elmo but in any event ack from me 05:46 Kamion other than that, no questions, the other work seems good, and I probably need to have a look over the bcm43xx page myself ... 05:46 kjcole jsgotangco, Yeah. My fault. I should have thought about those sooner. 05:47 Kamion so +1 from me 05:47 Spec Kamion: It's pretty good, but there's lots of guess-work to get it working still. I think that's the driver's fault. 05:47 sabdfl so +1 from Kamion? 05:47 sabdfl done 05:47 sabdfl welcome aboard 05:47 Seveas ok, congratz Spec ! 05:47 ogra Spec, welcome :) 05:47 Spec thank you :) 05:47 flint thank you all. 05:47 sabdfl i'll approve it in LP 05:47 Spec I have to thank my cheerleaders, as well :) === jelkner [n=jelkner@158.59.193.240] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 05:47 Kamion Seveas: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_DC 05:47 kjcole jelkner, you're just in time to congratulate Spec... ;-) 05:47 jelkner congratulations! 05:47 sabdfl hey jeff 05:48 jelkner the DC LoCo needed a MOTU 05:48 sabdfl victor! 05:48 jelkner sabdfl: hi 05:48 sabdfl bstqc_ostl around? 05:48 jelkner yeah DC LoCo Team! 05:48 Seveas probably not 05:48 jsgotangco sabdfl: i think you met this guy 05:49 sabdfl i've met victor in beijing, would be lovely to have him as a member but i don't think the TZ works for this meeting 05:49 Seveas I spoke to him earlier, sounds like a good candidate 05:49 Spec (So how do I get a ubuntu/memeber cloak? :p) 05:49 sabdfl yes, very much so 05:49 sabdfl but lets get him on board later 05:49 Seveas Spec, poke me in a /msg so I don't forget to do that 05:49 jsgotangco i can vouch for him too 05:49 ogra ah, cool, he's the guy who sends the pdf testreports to -devel :) 05:49 jsgotangco yeah 05:50 dholbach yes, I'd like to see him as a member too 05:50 Seveas BlueT_, (Matthew Lien) is around it seems 05:50 sabdfl BlueT_: ping 05:50 dholbach I communicated with him for the test plans and he has great ideas and put incredible work into testing hoary and breezy === Bigredman74 [n=Bigredma@68.62.169.39] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 05:51 kjcole BTW, since I arrived a little late, if it hadn't already been mentioned FOSE is in it's 30th year, as the largest US federal government computer convention... 05:51 Seveas BlueT_, is not around I guess 05:51 Seveas and neither is Kuyaedz 05:52 sabdfl kjcole: do you think it';s a conference that should be on silbs' list? 05:52 Seveas that only leaves the topic of the next meeting. I think we should set a time right now 05:52 sabdfl ok, I will update the wiki page for the meeting 05:52 sabdfl when last did we do a UTC-morning meeting? === Kuyaedz [n=christer@kuyaedz.fttp.xmission.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 05:52 sabdfl for the AsiaPac characters? 05:52 Seveas Kuyaedz, right on time! 05:52 sabdfl ah, welcome Kuyaedz 05:53 Seveas sabdfl, I think it would be nice to have an early morning meeting 05:53 Kuyaedz Just got out of class :) ..glad someone came looking for me, I didn't know when this was. 05:53 jelkner ok if i steal Spec so i can get some work outta him? 05:53 sabdfl Seveas: define early 05:53 kjcole sabdfl, I'll check. (I'm not familiar with what's type of stuff's already there, though I think I stumbled across that list before...) 05:53 sabdfl jelkner: all yours 05:53 jelkner now that his head is all swelled and all 05:53 Seveas sabdfl, after Kuyaedz' topics have been handled 05:53 Spec thank you all :p 05:53 jelkner cya all later 05:53 Seveas Kuyaedz, please introduce Ubuntu-Utah to us 05:54 sabdfl cheers spec, jelkner 05:54 Kuyaedz Ubuntu-Utah is a loco team I started a few months ago. We've steadily been growing but are still relatively small. 05:55 Seveas how many members? 05:55 Kuyaedz 11 members registered on the launchpad page, but I know of ~4-5 more that aren't 'official' yet. 05:55 Seveas around 10 - not too bad 05:56 Kuyaedz We've got members at 3 Utah Universities, which I think is helpful. 05:56 Seveas not bad, 10 active members is good for a starting team 05:56 Kuyaedz We've set a goal to double that by Dapper release. 05:57 Seveas What is the team doing to promote Ubuntu besides handing out CD's? 05:57 sabdfl Kuyaedz: how active are you in the forums? Well the CD distribution and team recruitment are the short-term goals that 05:58 Kuyaedz we're currently working on. In the long term we would like to present school districts with Ubuntu/Edubuntu. 05:58 Kuyaedz sadbfl: I have roughly 750 forum posts. 05:58 Seveas Kuyaedz, nice 05:59 ogra yeah ! 05:59 Seveas I'm quite happy with how the Utah team is forming the way I see now 05:59 sabdfl Kuyaedz: have you seen the proposals about a forums council? 05:59 Seveas Kuyaedz, is there a specifi reason to use ubuntu-utah.org instead of ut.ubuntu-us.org? 05:59 Kuyaedz Seveas: I'm glad to hear that. I have the day off today & was hoping to get more team-related work done. 05:59 Kuyaedz sadbfl: I have not. Seveas: There is not. I did not know who to contact concerning an official team 06:00 Kuyaedz site so I registered one. Also we have requested an official mailing list 3x with no responses. 06:00 Kamion Kuyaedz: was that request to jdub? 06:00 Seveas Kuyaedz, I was going to ask what you would like to see from the CC, but that's clear now 06:01 sabdfl Kuyaedz: np, i appreciate your initiative in going ahead 06:01 G0SUB IMHO the mailing list creation is a bit of a bottleneck as jdub is a very busy guy 06:01 sabdfl G0SUB: would it help if we put mailing lists into LP? 06:01 Kuyaedz We've been using a google-groups system for the time being. 06:01 Seveas Who is the contact for *.ubuntu-us.org, smurf or someone else? 06:01 G0SUB sabdfl: yes it will 06:01 sabdfl G0SUB: i think you mean "yes it might" ;-) 06:01 Seveas sabdfl, or simply give jdub an assistant 06:01 G0SUB sabdfl: heh ... 06:02 G0SUB Seveas: ++ 06:02 sabdfl but, we've been looking at that here this week 06:02 sabdfl we can do it, it will just take a little while === Mizar [n=Mizar@ubuntu/member/mizar] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 06:02 G0SUB sabdfl: what about giving jdub an assistant? 06:02 G0SUB I can help with this 06:02 jsgotangco fridge jr 06:02 Kuyaedz Concerning the mailing list I contacted MathiasUlrich & also sent an email to Jeff Waugh. 06:02 jsgotangco heh 06:02 sabdfl G0SUB: offer to help, i'm sure he will accept 06:03 G0SUB sabdfl: should I mail him directly? 06:03 Seveas G0SUB, put my name in that mail to - I want to help there if possible 06:03 G0SUB sabdfl: fine, I will CC you 06:03 G0SUB thanks :) 06:04 Kuyaedz Seveas: I was wondering if it would be possible to get a layout template so our team site could nearly match the look/feel of the central. 06:04 sabdfl Kuyaedz: i think that's all public Kuyaedz, as you can see the organizational things are sometimes problematic - 06:04 Seveas but it'll be solved soon I guess. I will keep poking jdub/g0sub and smurf about it 06:05 Kuyaedz Seveas: thank you 06:05 Amaranth when did launchpad turn into sourceforge? 06:05 G0SUB oh, one more thing ... can we put up the moinmoin, drupal themes used in u.c & fridge somewhere? 06:05 Seveas Kuyaedz, I have a PHP based template for ubuntulinux.nl - you might want to look at that after the meeting, but poke me after the meeting for that 06:05 G0SUB so that people can reuse them? 06:05 sabdfl Amaranth: when some of us had a spare weekend 06:05 Amaranth sabdfl: hehe 06:05 G0SUB haha 06:05 Kuyaedz Seveas: will do 06:05 sabdfl ok 06:05 ogra Amaranth, pfft, sourceforge is sooo last century 06:05 Amaranth seriously, about the only thing missing is bzr write 06:05 sabdfl Kuyaedz: thanks for your work on Utah 06:05 jsgotangco sometimes its like friendster 06:05 sabdfl what about your membership? 06:05 Seveas Amaranth, supermirror 06:05 sabdfl Amaranth: it's coming 06:05 Kuyaedz sadbfl: happy to do it. I just wish we had more time/resources :) 06:06 sabdfl fairly soon, as it happens 06:06 Amaranth cool 06:06 Amaranth then i can use launchpad for alacarte instead of gnome cvs (eww) 06:06 Seveas Kuyaedz, lack of time is a global problem ;) 06:06 Amaranth </offtopic> 06:06 G0SUB [repeat] can we put up the moinmoin, drupal themes used in u.c & fridge somewhere? 06:06 Seveas Kuyaedz, habe you collected a cheerleeding swuad to support your membership application? 06:07 sabdfl G0SUB: speak with henrik, they are already public somewhere 06:07 sabdfl Kuyaedz: membership? 06:07 G0SUB sabdfl: ok, thanks 06:07 Kuyaedz Seveas: Well I was going to see what members of the team could come along, but even I didn't have much notice on the meeting :) 06:07 Seveas Kuyaedz, true. it was very short notice 06:07 Kuyaedz sabdfl: What can I tell you about membership? Is there more I can do? 06:08 sabdfl your wiki page is excellent 06:08 sabdfl very happy to see the laptop testing info 06:09 Kuyaedz sabdfl: I was hoping to update a few of those with Dapper results before the meeting.. === No1Viking [n=Viking@h-83-140-104-3.ip.cust.port80.se] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 06:09 sabdfl ok, +1 from me on membership and loco leadership, kamion and elmo may have more questions 06:09 elmo +1 06:09 Kuyaedz sabdfl: thank you. 06:10 Seveas \o/ from me, wikipage looks good, active since october and doing great things in Utah 06:10 Kuyaedz elmo: again, thank you. 06:10 sabdfl +1 on the elmo-statue from you, Kuyaedz? 06:10 G0SUB Kuyaedz: awesome! that's great :) 06:10 Seveas sabdfl, yes, we need an elmo statue 06:11 G0SUB sabdfl: heh, I already spoke about it in the last meet 06:11 G0SUB wrt the statue 06:11 sabdfl Kuyaedz: have you applied for membership in ubuntumembers in LP? 06:11 Kuyaedz sabdfl: I did 06:12 Kuyaedz If there is anything else you'd like to see me do, or the team, don't hesitate to ask. 06:12 sabdfl Kuyaedz: i don't see you in the list 06:12 sabdfl what's your LP nick? display name? 06:12 sabdfl or real name? 06:12 Kuyaedz sabdfl: kuyaedz or christer-edwards 06:12 Seveas kuyaedz 06:12 Seveas I see him in the list 06:13 sabdfl ok, it would be nice to put your proper name in the LP account 06:13 Kamion ok, sorry I've been discussing things elsewhere, +1 from me 06:13 sabdfl done 06:13 sabdfl welcome! 06:13 Seveas Kamion, great 06:13 Kuyaedz thank you. 06:13 Seveas Kuyaedz, welcome aboard! 06:13 Kamion Kuyaedz: and thanks for the JigdoDownloadHowto page, I've been meaning to write something like that for a while 06:13 Kuyaedz I'm very excited. thank you. 06:13 sabdfl good work! 06:13 G0SUB Kuyaedz: welcome! 06:13 dholbach congratulations Kuyaedz 06:13 jsgotangco congrats 06:14 highvoltage congrats, Kuyaedz 06:14 ogra congrats Kuyaedz 06:14 Seveas sabdfl, about the meeting time, given that the CC is in the UK largely 8/9AM UTC-ish? Kamion: what's the drill on the meeting agenda page, should i delete the folks 06:14 sabdfl approved in the last meeting, make a note of those approved here, and delete those who did not show up? 06:14 Kamion sabdfl: yes, yes, no make a note of those who didn't show up === jdub [n=jdub@ppp121-112.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 06:14 sabdfl Seveas: i'd prefer 10am, and excuse elmo :-) 06:14 Seveas sabdfl, usually I take care of the editing ;) 06:14 Kuyaedz I'm glad I made it in time. The councilagenda page said "TBA". I was just hoping someone would contact me 06:14 G0SUB yay! jdub 06:14 Seveas Kuyaedz, I tried 06:15 Kamion can we get mako at 10am UK time? 06:15 elmo (fwiw, I can get up, if I need to) 06:15 Kamion ok, if we've got elmo then it doesn't matter 06:15 Kuyaedz Seveas: atoponce mentioned in #ubuntu-utah. Thanks for coming to find me. 06:15 YukiCuss Kuyaedz, I barely managed. :) 06:15 Seveas 10am is ~4am mako-time iirc 06:15 Seveas sounds like a bad idea 06:15 Kuyaedz Is there anything immediate that everyone would like to see done with the Utah Team? 06:15 Seveas (for him, that is) 06:16 Kamion jdub: did you see the stuff above about mailing list creation? 06:16 Seveas Kuyaedz, yes, one thing 06:16 Seveas Keep rocking! 06:16 Kuyaedz Seveas: I will find you later concerning the template. Also should we migrate to ut.ubuntu-us.org? === soumyadip [n=soumyadi@59.93.241.33] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] 06:17 Seveas Kuyaedz, you don't "have to" but it would be nice 06:17 Seveas (which reminds me, I should still migrate to ubuntu-nl.org) 06:17 Kuyaedz Seveas: Should I also speak with you later about that & access? 06:17 Seveas Kuyaedz, yes, preferably in an hour or two (dinner time) 06:17 jdub Kamion: no - but elmo's sorting out the RT queue for them, which will make it *vastly* easier to manage. 06:18 Seveas Kamion, sabdfl, elmo: so tue april4 10am UTC? 06:18 Kamion works for me 06:18 Seveas it'll be DST then === Surak [n=ubuntu@201009064104.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 06:18 jdub Kamion: there's two pending atm, utah and ebuntu 06:18 G0SUB jdub: can I be your assistant in setting up the mailing lists? 06:18 Kamion slightly better than today actually, sorry for setting a meeting time and then being late for it :) 06:18 sabdfl errr... actually i might be on a flight to a conference 06:19 Seveas sabdfl, hmm, move the meeting to monday? 06:19 neuralis Seveas: that'll be 5am EST, so no dice if you're trying to get mako. 06:19 Kuyaedz Seveas: will do. 06:19 jdub G0SUB: it requires access to the server and so on - there's not a lot of work involved, and it ends up being more policy than anything else 06:19 sabdfl no, sec, i'm just trying to find out 06:19 Seveas ok 06:19 G0SUB jdub: sabdfl told that you might be in need of some help wrt this 06:19 G0SUB ok 06:19 Seveas (fiancee is pulling on my ears to get me to the dinner table - I may disappear suddenly) 06:20 sabdfl monday is clearer for me, elmo, are you still on EST? 06:20 Kuyaedz Ok well I'll get ahold of Seveas later. Is there anything else I'm needed for? 06:20 elmo sabdfl: yes, but I can shift without problems 06:20 Seveas Kuyaedz, no, we're done here 06:21 Seveas sabdfl, ok, monday april 3 it is then 06:21 Kuyaedz thank you again. 06:21 sabdfl 9am? === Kuyaedz [n=christer@kuyaedz.fttp.xmission.com] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] 06:21 elmo G0SUB: we're redirecting the list admin stuff to RT, which means there'll be 2 more people helping with lists stuff 06:21 Seveas if 9am is ok with Kamion and elmo 06:21 G0SUB elmo: that'd be great then 06:22 Kamion 9am's doable as long as Kirsten is well again by then to take Benedict to school 06:22 Kamion which should be the case 06:22 Seveas ok, elmo? 06:22 elmo yes === tdilago [n=dilago@201009064104.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 06:22 Seveas cool Apr 3, 09:00 UTC it is 06:23 jsgotangco nice === Seveas off - fiancee is getting mad 06:23 jsgotangco i gotta sleep too 06:23 jsgotangco good meeting 06:23 G0SUB jsgotangco: good night :) 06:23 Kamion ok, thanks all, guess that's adjourned 06:24 kjcole Good night to those of you half a world away... (Noon'ish here.) 06:24 highvoltage night kjcole 06:25 sabdfl night all