CC_2006-03-21
05:00 Spec flint: hello
05:01 flint Spec, good morning from the Frozen North....
05:01 YukiCuss flint, Spec, the hot down-under here?
05:01 Seveas Spec, YukiCuss: good to see you around - there's at least 2 points from the
agenda that can be handled
05:01 Seveas I'm afraid it was too short notice for a few others
05:01 jsgotangco ahh .au team
05:02 YukiCuss :)
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05:03 flint Seveas, based upon the current situation, I would wonder who is here from Media?
:^) I am just here to get Nick Wheeler as a MOTU
05:03 Seveas flint, today no one is appointed MOTU - it's all about membership
05:03 jsgotangco that's TB
05:03 Seveas Kamion, elmo, mako - ping
05:03 Seveas 16:03 UTC here
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05:04 Spec flint: membership first
05:04 flint Seveas, that is not what was said two weeks ago. can you send the agenda url to
the screen?
05:04 Seveas wiki/CommunityCouncilAgenda
05:04 YukiCuss flint, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda ?
05:04 flint Seveas, thanks.
05:05 Seveas flint, you need to be a member before you can become a MOTU - for membership a
cheerleading squad from the community is needed
05:05 flint YukiCuss, thanks even more :^)
05:05 Seveas for becoming motu you need other motus to vouch for you
05:05 flint Seveas, I represent the cheerleading squad. I am not interested in being a
member of anything.
05:06 Seveas flint, ok, put on your dress and start dancing around
05:06 flint I was drafted into being the first DC LOCO
05:06 Spec flint's my cheerleader? dear lord...
05:06 jsgotangco what happened?
05:06 flint Seveas, my dancing is kinda like watching the Hindenburg land at Lakehurst NJ...
05:07 Seveas flint, that's way better than mine so go for it
05:07 Seveas anyway - the idle times of the CC members aren't promising...
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05:07 jsgotangco there's one
05:07 Seveas hi mark!
05:07 sabdfl hi folks
05:07 YukiCuss sabdfl! :)
05:07 sabdfl sorry to be late
05:07 jsgotangco 2 mor
05:07 jsgotangco e
05:07 Seveas you're the first one here for a change
05:08 jsgotangco sabdfl: actually you're not late
05:08 flint sabdfl, Hey Mark!
05:08 sabdfl flint! long time no see
05:08 sabdfl CC meting due now?
05:08 Seveas yes
05:08 flint sabdfl, trying to stay out of trouble... :^)
05:08 sabdfl meeting, that is
05:08 Seveas kamion/mako/elmo not in sight
05:08 sabdfl flint: you and me both
05:09 jsgotangco we seem to have low attendance today
05:09 sabdfl ok, have pinged the guys, will sms kamion and elmo too, sec
05:09 elmo I'm here
05:09 Seveas hi elmo!
05:10 flint sabdfl, if you want I can go wake up mdz :^) ...nah...
05:10 neuralis i can sms mako, if need be.
05:10 Seveas flint, mdz isn't on the CC ;)
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05:10 ogra flint, hey, youre here to work, not for your hobbies :)
05:10 flint ogra, lol
05:11 flint ogra, waking mdz is a religious experience!
05:11 highvoltage flint: what is this about? :) wiki.ubuntu.com/gins
05:11 jsgotangco gins?
05:11 flint highvoltage, changed the name to wiki.ubuntu.com/gin like the drink mostly...
05:11 jsgotangco heh
05:12 sabdfl https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda
05:13 Spec links2 doesn't support ssl :-/
05:13 sabdfl vidya was asking earlier about recognition for hte Ubuntu Women's team
05:13 mdz flint: you are a menace to sleep
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05:14 sabdfl elmo: are you happy to start without Kamion and mako, and then we can ask them
to +1 / -1 member candidates based on the log and email?
05:14 elmo sabdfl: sure, if you want
05:14 sabdfl ok, lets do that
05:14 Amaranth kamion said something about picking someone up from school
05:14 sabdfl morning mdz
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05:14 sabdfl locoteams!
05:14 flint gin is gnome instant nationalizaiton, a command line tool to change languages.
05:14 flint they need it in edubuntu classrooms.... not a big deal...
05:14 flint talked to olli about it and he seemd to be ok with it.
05:14 sabdfl YukiCuss: ping
05:14 flint later refactor in python and hook it to a gui if you want.
05:14 YukiCuss sabdfl, hello! :)
05:14 jsgotangco flint: shhh
05:14 sabdfl tell us about ubuntu down under
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05:15 flint mdz damn, good morning!!!
05:15 YukiCuss We're just starting up work, more or less, but so far it's looking very
promising.
05:15 Seveas gotta love random disconnects...
05:15 Seveas did I miss anything?
05:15 Amaranth i don't think so
05:15 mdz flint: I've been up since 0600, but damn you anyway
05:15 YukiCuss We've had our first meeting (just today), and we've got a roadmap organised
(more or less) for how we're going to tackle various projects around here.
05:15 sabdfl Seveas: just getting started
05:15 Seveas thanks
05:15 sabdfl YukiCuss: where's here?
05:15 YukiCuss sabdfl, here is Australia. :)
05:15 jsgotangco that's a big place
05:15 jsgotangco heh
05:15 YukiCuss We've got members all along the east coast so far.
05:16 YukiCuss And we're hoping that we can find some more elsewhere.
05:16 elmo (Kamion is on his way)
05:16 Seveas YukiCuss, cool, what are you focussing on as team?
05:16 sabdfl YukiCuss: nice wiki page, wide spread of members across the country
05:16 sabdfl YukiCuss: are you all setup w.r.t. virtual server if you want it?
05:16 YukiCuss Seveas, at the moment we're looking at the three major groups; home users,
business, and school.
05:16 Kamion hi, sorry I'm late, was picking the child up from school and had to run an
errand in the meantime
05:16 YukiCuss sabdfl, yep, we've got that pretty much organised, just letting the delay of
email take its toll :)
05:17 sabdfl Kamion: no worries, mate
05:17 sabdfl g'day
05:17 sabdfl ok, YukiCuss, are you the group leader, have you had any process to confirm that
internally?
05:17 Kamion sigh
05:17 YukiCuss Particularly we're inspecting schools; demonstrations of how Ubuntu can be used
inside a school, and also FOSS.
05:18 YukiCuss sabdfl, I am the group leader, and it's been confirmed that I'm the team contact
at a meeting.
05:18 YukiCuss We had our first one today, it worked out well. :)
05:18 Seveas YukiCuss, do you promote edubuntu too?
05:18 ogra YukiCuss, you should get in contact with the edubuntu community :)
05:18 sabdfl it's nice for the CC to have a primary contact for a loco team - so that's great
05:18 sabdfl anything you'd like from the CC?
05:18 YukiCuss Seveas, ogra, of course.
05:19 jsgotangco increase the sheilas!
05:19 jsgotangco =)
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sabdfl, at the moment, we're hoping that we can get some form of priority with
05:19 YukiCuss ShipIt; we'd like to be able to get Dapper out here as quickly as we can, before
the rush.
05:19 sabdfl jerome, you suggesting we have sufficient sheep?
05:19 YukiCuss (rush of downloads begins, that is; I think the convenience of a real CD will
overwhelm them :))
Other than that, we're going to keep self-regulating (meeting every fortnight
05:20 YukiCuss has been agreed on and seems to be convenient), and see how we can let our
projects take off.
YukiCuss: local production an distribution depends on having a company locally
05:20 sabdfl that can do it well at great prices, if you have nominations, the right person
to ping is hmb
05:20 sabdfl on freenode
05:20 sabdfl hande@canonical.com
05:20 YukiCuss Thanks!
05:21 sabdfl YukiCuss: we've yet to find a regional company that can do it cost effectively,
but would love to get it working well
05:21 YukiCuss sabdfl, we've got a few people who are very interested in doing local mailouts.
05:21 Seveas YukiCuss, local mailouts rock
05:21 sabdfl we can probably do high priority shipment after release if you have a specific
function or requirement
05:22 Seveas it's quite popular here in NL too
05:22 sabdfl anyway, thank you for checking in, and thanks for setting up the team
05:22 YukiCuss No problems! ^^
05:22 YukiCuss Thank you.
05:22 Seveas YukiCuss, and sleep well ;)
05:22 sabdfl Kuyaedz?
05:22 Seveas not around
05:22 Seveas tried to ping him to no avail
05:22 sabdfl ok, let's move on
05:23 Seveas members or women?
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05:23 sabdfl sheilas!
05:23 jsgotangco haha
05:23 ogra heh
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05:23 Seveas :)
05:23 sabdfl is svaksha here?
05:23 svaksha yes , Vidya Ayer here
05:23 Seveas "#ubuntu-women on Freenode - officially recognised or not."
05:23 sabdfl svaksha: would you introduce Ubuntu Women, please?
05:24 Seveas is there such a thing as an official channel?
05:24 svaksha sure,
05:24 svaksha well I dont about the official bit ...
05:25 sabdfl svaksha pinged me earlier by email
05:25 svaksha Ubuntu Women is a group functioning under Ubuntu to provide a platform and
encouragement for women to contribute to Ubuntu-Linux Membership is open to all.
05:25 sabdfl asking about official recognition of UbuntuWomen by Canonical, and I think
recognition by the CC is more important
05:25 svaksha the non-official part i heard from another forums member Susana
05:25 svaksha ok
05:26 sabdfl svaksha: are there several different groups that are related to "women in
ubuntu", or is your group the primary initiative?
05:26 Seveas I realy don't like to see women as a separate group, sounds very sexist - but
I'm probably missing something
05:27 elmo Seveas: you are missing something
05:27 jsgotangco Seveas: we'll do ubuntu-blokes don't worry
05:27 elmo Seveas: you should probably review the history of debian women
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05:27 elmo Seveas: that deeply flawed argument has come up before
05:27 sabdfl i tihnk it's very worthwhile to have a group focused on this
05:28 svaksha after I wrote to you last year , panickthumb from the forums mentiioned about
this and I asked him to contact you or canonical directly
05:28 Seveas elmo, ok
05:28 sabdfl as long as we never have folks suggesting that the ONLY place for women in
ubuntu is that group
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05:28 Kamion right
05:28 highvoltage i've been on the debian-women mailing list before, i've never seen so many
"*hugs*" on a list before :)
05:28 sabdfl are there any other comments on the idea of having a group focused on "women in
ubuntu"?
05:28 svaksha sabdfl, i dont know what happened after that but I noticed a URL registered in
Dec and in Jan got your OK
05:28 ogra highvoltage, you dont share a list with dholbach, do you ?
05:29 ogra :)
05:29 sabdfl there is some concern that different groups are trying to achieve the same thing
05:29 highvoltage ogra: yep :) debian-women have mor!
05:29 sabdfl i would like to make sure everyone is talking together
05:29 jsgotangco sabdfl: the u-w list has been pretty active (im subscribed)
05:29 jsgotangco there's lots of promise
05:29 sabdfl jsgotangco: me too :-)
05:29 jsgotangco hah
05:30 Seveas <highvoltage> i've been on the debian-women mailing list before, i've never seen
so many "*hugs*" on a list before <-- sounds like a list for dholbach
05:30 sabdfl svaksha: can we consolidate the different domains that have been registered by
different people?
05:30 sabdfl and make sure everyone's working on the same initiative?
05:30 sabdfl are there any reasons why that should not happen?
i think that ubuntu-women might be a good idea, not as a feminist activist
05:30 highvoltage group, or as a group for just women, but as a forum to discuss the general
involvement of women in the project
05:30 svaksha no
05:31 G0SUB the issue is that there are a lot of unofficial UW sites / blogs / wikis ... we
should try and get them together to avoid redundancy
05:31 highvoltage and to monitor current community activities and evaluate how we can involve the
other half of the world population in ubuntu
05:31 sabdfl svaksha: so have you chatted with susana, and you're certain that she's happy to
work with you?
05:31 Seveas highvoltage, agreed, as long as it's NEVER going to be women-welcom-only or
women-only-welcome-there which is what I'm a bit afraid of
05:31 sabdfl Seveas: we will make certain of that, yes
05:31 highvoltage Seveas: agreed, I would think that 'they' feel the same
05:31 svaksha i did ask her to bring up the issue on the list
05:31 ogra Seveas, highvoltage i think thats up to the team to define itself ;)
05:31 Kamion highvoltage: mentorship seems valuable too
05:32 jsgotangco yes
05:32 jsgotangco its been asked
05:32 Seveas ogra, true that
05:32 svaksha its not women only ...please read this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWomen
05:32 sabdfl i'm pretty certain mako would be thrilled with this :-)
05:32 Seveas do I dare ask why?
05:32 highvoltage ogra: also agreed, it was just my attempt to explain that a group about women in
Ubuntu may add value
05:32 sabdfl very nicely done wiki page, svaksha
05:32 Spec How many members are on the u-w list?
05:32 svaksha thanks
05:33 svaksha around 70+
05:33 Kamion I like how that page lists technical skills first
05:33 svaksha yes but that scares away newcomers so Clytie toned it down a little
05:33 Seveas the wikipage looks very nice indeed
a lot of women's-groups pages I've seen have almost seemed embarrassed at the
05:33 Kamion idea that technical skills might be involved, which always seemed incongruous to
me - I like what you have there
05:34 Kamion oh, is that Clytie Siddall (spelling?)
05:34 svaksha yep
05:34 Kamion cool, encountered her sending huge piles of Vietnamese translations
05:34 svaksha :)
The Ubuntu community is very well represented by the male persuasion, yet women
05:34 flint are a precious precious to this. As an individual married for over a
quarter-century let me give you all some advice. They want a room, they get a
room.
05:35 sabdfl #ubuntu-women it is then ;-)
05:35 svaksha thanks :)
05:35 jsgotangco yay!
05:35 sabdfl ok, any further comments?
05:35 highvoltage :)
05:35 Seveas yes, one comment
05:35 Seveas Welcome!
05:35 ogra :)
05:35 sabdfl ditto :-)
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bathroom with each other... weird.
05:36 svaksha thanks to you all for the support and the CC too :)
05:36 Seveas psusi, 42
05:36 jsgotangco haha
05:36 flint psusi, if that is all you ever worry about...
05:36 Seveas ok, shall we move on to new members?
05:36 flint :^)
05:36 sabdfl psusi: there are greater mysteries in life
05:36 sabdfl like handbags
05:36 sabdfl i'm doing some research in this regard
05:36 azeem psusi: AIUI, the channel is welcoming male people as well?
05:36 Spec heh
05:37 neuralis sabdfl: it's a dead end. give up and run away while you still can.
05:37 Seveas sabdfl, they come from the bermuda triangle it seems
05:37 sabdfl ok
05:37 Seveas half the world can disappear into it
05:37 sabdfl members!
05:37 Whatsisname supposedly one guy completely figured out how women work
05:37 Seveas Spec, your 3-liner please
05:37 Whatsisname but he died of laughing before he could tell anyone
05:37 Seveas Spec == NicholasWeeler
05:38 sabdfl Whatsisname: easy, tiger
05:38 Spec Hello, I'm Nicholas Wheeler, and I'm applying for membership to help with the
Ubuntu cause. I'm interested in becomming a MOTU eventually.
05:38 Spec Currently I'm involved in bug triaging of all sorts -- particularly interested
in making the science packages, err, work.
05:38 Seveas is the MOTU cheerleading squad arround to support Spec ?
05:38 flint I am here to vouch for Nick. He is a good hack.
05:39 flint elkner would be here but he is busy teaching newer hacks.
05:39 ogra he wrote a great Howto on the wiki for mondo/mindi use :)
05:39 Seveas \o/ from me for doing bug triaging
05:39 Spec I also wrote a how-to for the broadcom 43xx card
05:39 flint ogra, indeed he did.
05:39 Seveas we need much more bug triagers
05:40 flint Seveas, i fully intend to understand Malone, I promise I will if you pass Nick.
05:40 flint :^)
05:40 Seveas Spec, your wikipage is not completely clear - for how long have you been
contributong to Ubuntu?
05:40 Spec Contributing, only a couple of months.
05:41 Spec I've been using it since hoary I think.
05:41 psusi hehe... 42
05:41 Seveas couple of months sounds good, any MOTU to confirm that?
05:41 Seveas ogra, ?
05:42 flint I have not status here but I can confirm that by direct observation.
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05:42 Seveas flint, how is the DC loco doing, dormant or active?
05:42 ogra Seveas, he is the webmaster of the DC LoCo team, when went that online ;)
05:42 flint Seveas, the DC loco is represented by Kjcole who just joined. It is VERY
active. ask him.
05:43 Spec It is very active. :)
05:43 Seveas nice
05:43 ogra Spec, are you innvolved in the edubuntu deployment thing in DC ?
05:43 flint kjcole, you need to say something glib, I know you can...
05:43 kjcole Hi all. Sorry to be late. ;-)
05:43 Seveas hi Kevin - please help Spec by cheerleading
05:43 Spec ogra: yeap
05:43 ogra cool !
05:43 kjcole The DC LoCo's now got a few active bzr projects starting up.
05:43 sabdfl Spec: how was FOSE?
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05:44 Spec very very successful, gave out 1300 ubuntu cds
05:44 spacey thats quite a lot
05:44 Spec (+1300 opensuse, but that doesn't matter)
05:44 Seveas WOW
05:44 kjcole Nick and I represented the LoCo at FOSE, and it was a great show.
05:44 Spec We were very popular at the convention.
05:44 Kamion that MondoMindi page is pretty hideously hackish; can we please get the existing
packages up to scratch instead?
05:44 Spec Being next to the bathrooms has it's advantages, i'll have to say...
05:44 Seveas (I need some point of reference - how big is the DC area, how many people live
there?)
05:45 sabdfl +1 from me on Spec for membership based on advocacy and bug triage, not sure if
elmo or kamion have additional questions
05:45 Spec Kamion: I believe in dapper they are up to scratch, in breezy it's a lost cause.
05:45 kjcole We also had the trifold Ubuntu brochures that I picked up at UBZ and handed
those out as well.
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ah, I see that in the wiki page now, although it's kind of brief and easy to
05:45 Kamion skip over, maybe a bit more text is called for so that people don't go to more
work than necessary
05:45 Kamion fair enough
05:45 kjcole (Unfortunately, I didn't have quite as many of those brochures. And I now wish
I'd had bumper stickers as well.)
05:46 elmo yeah, kamion++, that wiki page is making me cry
05:46 flint Kamion, I am responsible for the hackishness of these pages, not nick.
05:46 jsgotangco kjcole: wink and you shall receive (hopefully)
05:46 Spec I'll edit flint's work to make it prettier :)
05:46 elmo if the "Not needed for >= Dapper" bit at the top could be highlighted, that
owuld be good
05:46 elmo but in any event ack from me
05:46 Kamion other than that, no questions, the other work seems good, and I probably need to
have a look over the bcm43xx page myself ...
05:46 kjcole jsgotangco, Yeah. My fault. I should have thought about those sooner.
05:47 Kamion so +1 from me
05:47 Spec Kamion: It's pretty good, but there's lots of guess-work to get it working
still. I think that's the driver's fault.
05:47 sabdfl so +1 from Kamion?
05:47 sabdfl done
05:47 sabdfl welcome aboard
05:47 Seveas ok, congratz Spec !
05:47 ogra Spec, welcome :)
05:47 Spec thank you :)
05:47 flint thank you all.
05:47 sabdfl i'll approve it in LP
05:47 Spec I have to thank my cheerleaders, as well :)
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05:47 Kamion Seveas: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_DC
05:47 kjcole jelkner, you're just in time to congratulate Spec... ;-)
05:47 jelkner congratulations!
05:47 sabdfl hey jeff
05:48 jelkner the DC LoCo needed a MOTU
05:48 sabdfl victor!
05:48 jelkner sabdfl: hi
05:48 sabdfl bstqc_ostl around?
05:48 jelkner yeah DC LoCo Team!
05:48 Seveas probably not
05:48 jsgotangco sabdfl: i think you met this guy
05:49 sabdfl i've met victor in beijing, would be lovely to have him as a member but i don't
think the TZ works for this meeting
05:49 Seveas I spoke to him earlier, sounds like a good candidate
05:49 Spec (So how do I get a ubuntu/memeber cloak? :p)
05:49 sabdfl yes, very much so
05:49 sabdfl but lets get him on board later
05:49 Seveas Spec, poke me in a /msg so I don't forget to do that
05:49 jsgotangco i can vouch for him too
05:49 ogra ah, cool, he's the guy who sends the pdf testreports to -devel :)
05:49 jsgotangco yeah
05:50 dholbach yes, I'd like to see him as a member too
05:50 Seveas BlueT_, (Matthew Lien) is around it seems
05:50 sabdfl BlueT_: ping
05:50 dholbach I communicated with him for the test plans and he has great ideas and put
incredible work into testing hoary and breezy
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05:51 kjcole BTW, since I arrived a little late, if it hadn't already been mentioned FOSE is
in it's 30th year, as the largest US federal government computer convention...
05:51 Seveas BlueT_, is not around I guess
05:51 Seveas and neither is Kuyaedz
05:52 sabdfl kjcole: do you think it';s a conference that should be on silbs' list?
05:52 Seveas that only leaves the topic of the next meeting. I think we should set a time
right now
05:52 sabdfl ok, I will update the wiki page for the meeting
05:52 sabdfl when last did we do a UTC-morning meeting?
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05:52 sabdfl for the AsiaPac characters?
05:52 Seveas Kuyaedz, right on time!
05:52 sabdfl ah, welcome Kuyaedz
05:53 Seveas sabdfl, I think it would be nice to have an early morning meeting
05:53 Kuyaedz Just got out of class :) ..glad someone came looking for me, I didn't know when
this was.
05:53 jelkner ok if i steal Spec so i can get some work outta him?
05:53 sabdfl Seveas: define early
05:53 kjcole sabdfl, I'll check. (I'm not familiar with what's type of stuff's already
there, though I think I stumbled across that list before...)
05:53 sabdfl jelkner: all yours
05:53 jelkner now that his head is all swelled and all
05:53 Seveas sabdfl, after Kuyaedz' topics have been handled
05:53 Spec thank you all :p
05:53 jelkner cya all later
05:53 Seveas Kuyaedz, please introduce Ubuntu-Utah to us
05:54 sabdfl cheers spec, jelkner
05:54 Kuyaedz Ubuntu-Utah is a loco team I started a few months ago. We've steadily been
growing but are still relatively small.
05:55 Seveas how many members?
05:55 Kuyaedz 11 members registered on the launchpad page, but I know of ~4-5 more that aren't
'official' yet.
05:55 Seveas around 10 - not too bad
05:56 Kuyaedz We've got members at 3 Utah Universities, which I think is helpful.
05:56 Seveas not bad, 10 active members is good for a starting team
05:56 Kuyaedz We've set a goal to double that by Dapper release.
05:57 Seveas What is the team doing to promote Ubuntu besides handing out CD's?
05:57 sabdfl Kuyaedz: how active are you in the forums?
Well the CD distribution and team recruitment are the short-term goals that
05:58 Kuyaedz we're currently working on. In the long term we would like to present school
districts with Ubuntu/Edubuntu.
05:58 Kuyaedz sadbfl: I have roughly 750 forum posts.
05:58 Seveas Kuyaedz, nice
05:59 ogra yeah !
05:59 Seveas I'm quite happy with how the Utah team is forming the way I see now
05:59 sabdfl Kuyaedz: have you seen the proposals about a forums council?
05:59 Seveas Kuyaedz, is there a specifi reason to use ubuntu-utah.org instead of
ut.ubuntu-us.org?
05:59 Kuyaedz Seveas: I'm glad to hear that. I have the day off today & was hoping to get
more team-related work done.
05:59 Kuyaedz sadbfl: I have not.
Seveas: There is not. I did not know who to contact concerning an official team
06:00 Kuyaedz site so I registered one. Also we have requested an official mailing list 3x
with no responses.
06:00 Kamion Kuyaedz: was that request to jdub?
06:00 Seveas Kuyaedz, I was going to ask what you would like to see from the CC, but that's
clear now
06:01 sabdfl Kuyaedz: np, i appreciate your initiative in going ahead
06:01 G0SUB IMHO the mailing list creation is a bit of a bottleneck as jdub is a very busy
guy
06:01 sabdfl G0SUB: would it help if we put mailing lists into LP?
06:01 Kuyaedz We've been using a google-groups system for the time being.
06:01 Seveas Who is the contact for *.ubuntu-us.org, smurf or someone else?
06:01 G0SUB sabdfl: yes it will
06:01 sabdfl G0SUB: i think you mean "yes it might" ;-)
06:01 Seveas sabdfl, or simply give jdub an assistant
06:01 G0SUB sabdfl: heh ...
06:02 G0SUB Seveas: ++
06:02 sabdfl but, we've been looking at that here this week
06:02 sabdfl we can do it, it will just take a little while
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06:02 G0SUB sabdfl: what about giving jdub an assistant?
06:02 G0SUB I can help with this
06:02 jsgotangco fridge jr
06:02 Kuyaedz Concerning the mailing list I contacted MathiasUlrich & also sent an email to
Jeff Waugh.
06:02 jsgotangco heh
06:02 sabdfl G0SUB: offer to help, i'm sure he will accept
06:03 G0SUB sabdfl: should I mail him directly?
06:03 Seveas G0SUB, put my name in that mail to - I want to help there if possible
06:03 G0SUB sabdfl: fine, I will CC you
06:03 G0SUB thanks :)
06:04 Kuyaedz Seveas: I was wondering if it would be possible to get a layout template so our
team site could nearly match the look/feel of the central.
06:04 sabdfl Kuyaedz: i think that's all public
Kuyaedz, as you can see the organizational things are sometimes problematic -
06:04 Seveas but it'll be solved soon I guess. I will keep poking jdub/g0sub and smurf about
it
06:05 Kuyaedz Seveas: thank you
06:05 Amaranth when did launchpad turn into sourceforge?
06:05 G0SUB oh, one more thing ... can we put up the moinmoin, drupal themes used in u.c &
fridge somewhere?
06:05 Seveas Kuyaedz, I have a PHP based template for ubuntulinux.nl - you might want to look
at that after the meeting, but poke me after the meeting for that
06:05 G0SUB so that people can reuse them?
06:05 sabdfl Amaranth: when some of us had a spare weekend
06:05 Amaranth sabdfl: hehe
06:05 G0SUB haha
06:05 Kuyaedz Seveas: will do
06:05 sabdfl ok
06:05 ogra Amaranth, pfft, sourceforge is sooo last century
06:05 Amaranth seriously, about the only thing missing is bzr write
06:05 sabdfl Kuyaedz: thanks for your work on Utah
06:05 jsgotangco sometimes its like friendster
06:05 sabdfl what about your membership?
06:05 Seveas Amaranth, supermirror
06:05 sabdfl Amaranth: it's coming
06:05 Kuyaedz sadbfl: happy to do it. I just wish we had more time/resources :)
06:06 sabdfl fairly soon, as it happens
06:06 Amaranth cool
06:06 Amaranth then i can use launchpad for alacarte instead of gnome cvs (eww)
06:06 Seveas Kuyaedz, lack of time is a global problem ;)
06:06 Amaranth </offtopic>
06:06 G0SUB [repeat] can we put up the moinmoin, drupal themes used in u.c & fridge
somewhere?
06:06 Seveas Kuyaedz, habe you collected a cheerleeding swuad to support your membership
application?
06:07 sabdfl G0SUB: speak with henrik, they are already public somewhere
06:07 sabdfl Kuyaedz: membership?
06:07 G0SUB sabdfl: ok, thanks
06:07 Kuyaedz Seveas: Well I was going to see what members of the team could come along, but
even I didn't have much notice on the meeting :)
06:07 Seveas Kuyaedz, true. it was very short notice
06:07 Kuyaedz sabdfl: What can I tell you about membership? Is there more I can do?
06:08 sabdfl your wiki page is excellent
06:08 sabdfl very happy to see the laptop testing info
06:09 Kuyaedz sabdfl: I was hoping to update a few of those with Dapper results before the
meeting..
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06:09 sabdfl ok, +1 from me on membership and loco leadership, kamion and elmo may have more
questions
06:09 elmo +1
06:09 Kuyaedz sabdfl: thank you.
06:10 Seveas \o/ from me, wikipage looks good, active since october and doing great things in
Utah
06:10 Kuyaedz elmo: again, thank you.
06:10 sabdfl +1 on the elmo-statue from you, Kuyaedz?
06:10 G0SUB Kuyaedz: awesome! that's great :)
06:10 Seveas sabdfl, yes, we need an elmo statue
06:11 G0SUB sabdfl: heh, I already spoke about it in the last meet
06:11 G0SUB wrt the statue
06:11 sabdfl Kuyaedz: have you applied for membership in ubuntumembers in LP?
06:11 Kuyaedz sabdfl: I did
06:12 Kuyaedz If there is anything else you'd like to see me do, or the team, don't hesitate
to ask.
06:12 sabdfl Kuyaedz: i don't see you in the list
06:12 sabdfl what's your LP nick? display name?
06:12 sabdfl or real name?
06:12 Kuyaedz sabdfl: kuyaedz or christer-edwards
06:12 Seveas kuyaedz
06:12 Seveas I see him in the list
06:13 sabdfl ok, it would be nice to put your proper name in the LP account
06:13 Kamion ok, sorry I've been discussing things elsewhere, +1 from me
06:13 sabdfl done
06:13 sabdfl welcome!
06:13 Seveas Kamion, great
06:13 Kuyaedz thank you.
06:13 Seveas Kuyaedz, welcome aboard!
06:13 Kamion Kuyaedz: and thanks for the JigdoDownloadHowto page, I've been meaning to write
something like that for a while
06:13 Kuyaedz I'm very excited. thank you.
06:13 sabdfl good work!
06:13 G0SUB Kuyaedz: welcome!
06:13 dholbach congratulations Kuyaedz
06:13 jsgotangco congrats
06:14 highvoltage congrats, Kuyaedz
06:14 ogra congrats Kuyaedz
06:14 Seveas sabdfl, about the meeting time, given that the CC is in the UK largely 8/9AM
UTC-ish?
Kamion: what's the drill on the meeting agenda page, should i delete the folks
06:14 sabdfl approved in the last meeting, make a note of those approved here, and delete
those who did not show up?
06:14 Kamion sabdfl: yes, yes, no make a note of those who didn't show up
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06:14 sabdfl Seveas: i'd prefer 10am, and excuse elmo :-)
06:14 Seveas sabdfl, usually I take care of the editing ;)
06:14 Kuyaedz I'm glad I made it in time. The councilagenda page said "TBA". I was just
hoping someone would contact me
06:14 G0SUB yay! jdub
06:14 Seveas Kuyaedz, I tried
06:15 Kamion can we get mako at 10am UK time?
06:15 elmo (fwiw, I can get up, if I need to)
06:15 Kamion ok, if we've got elmo then it doesn't matter
06:15 Kuyaedz Seveas: atoponce mentioned in #ubuntu-utah. Thanks for coming to find me.
06:15 YukiCuss Kuyaedz, I barely managed. :)
06:15 Seveas 10am is ~4am mako-time iirc
06:15 Seveas sounds like a bad idea
06:15 Kuyaedz Is there anything immediate that everyone would like to see done with the Utah
Team?
06:15 Seveas (for him, that is)
06:16 Kamion jdub: did you see the stuff above about mailing list creation?
06:16 Seveas Kuyaedz, yes, one thing
06:16 Seveas Keep rocking!
06:16 Kuyaedz Seveas: I will find you later concerning the template. Also should we migrate
to ut.ubuntu-us.org?
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06:17 Seveas Kuyaedz, you don't "have to" but it would be nice
06:17 Seveas (which reminds me, I should still migrate to ubuntu-nl.org)
06:17 Kuyaedz Seveas: Should I also speak with you later about that & access?
06:17 Seveas Kuyaedz, yes, preferably in an hour or two (dinner time)
06:17 jdub Kamion: no - but elmo's sorting out the RT queue for them, which will make it
*vastly* easier to manage.
06:18 Seveas Kamion, sabdfl, elmo: so tue april4 10am UTC?
06:18 Kamion works for me
06:18 Seveas it'll be DST then
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06:18 jdub Kamion: there's two pending atm, utah and ebuntu
06:18 G0SUB jdub: can I be your assistant in setting up the mailing lists?
06:18 Kamion slightly better than today actually, sorry for setting a meeting time and then
being late for it :)
06:18 sabdfl errr... actually i might be on a flight to a conference
06:19 Seveas sabdfl, hmm, move the meeting to monday?
06:19 neuralis Seveas: that'll be 5am EST, so no dice if you're trying to get mako.
06:19 Kuyaedz Seveas: will do.
06:19 jdub G0SUB: it requires access to the server and so on - there's not a lot of work
involved, and it ends up being more policy than anything else
06:19 sabdfl no, sec, i'm just trying to find out
06:19 Seveas ok
06:19 G0SUB jdub: sabdfl told that you might be in need of some help wrt this
06:19 G0SUB ok
06:19 Seveas (fiancee is pulling on my ears to get me to the dinner table - I may disappear
suddenly)
06:20 sabdfl monday is clearer for me, elmo, are you still on EST?
06:20 Kuyaedz Ok well I'll get ahold of Seveas later. Is there anything else I'm needed for?
06:20 elmo sabdfl: yes, but I can shift without problems
06:20 Seveas Kuyaedz, no, we're done here
06:21 Seveas sabdfl, ok, monday april 3 it is then
06:21 Kuyaedz thank you again.
06:21 sabdfl 9am?
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06:21 elmo G0SUB: we're redirecting the list admin stuff to RT, which means there'll be 2
more people helping with lists stuff
06:21 Seveas if 9am is ok with Kamion and elmo
06:21 G0SUB elmo: that'd be great then
06:22 Kamion 9am's doable as long as Kirsten is well again by then to take Benedict to school
06:22 Kamion which should be the case
06:22 Seveas ok, elmo?
06:22 elmo yes
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06:22 Seveas cool Apr 3, 09:00 UTC it is
06:23 jsgotangco nice
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06:23 jsgotangco i gotta sleep too
06:23 jsgotangco good meeting
06:23 G0SUB jsgotangco: good night :)
06:23 Kamion ok, thanks all, guess that's adjourned
06:24 kjcole Good night to those of you half a world away... (Noon'ish here.)
06:24 highvoltage night kjcole
06:25 sabdfl night allMeetingLogs/CC_2006-03-21 (last edited 2008-08-06 16:25:48 by localhost)