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   1 Aug 15 20:31:50 <PenguinistaKC>	It's 8:30 according to my 'puter, so let's get started.
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   3 Aug 15 20:31:59 <spr0k3t>	mroning rush
   4 Aug 15 20:32:05 <Rush_898>	hello
   5 Aug 15 20:32:19 <spr0k3t>	oh wow, I thought ircatwork was offline?
   6 Aug 15 20:32:30 <PenguinistaKC>	Let's begin by introducing ourselves. I am Matthew Copple, Kansas City MO, Team Contact.
   7 Aug 15 20:32:52 <spr0k3t>	Kent Seaton, Wiki administrator.
   8 Aug 15 20:33:06 <Rush_898>	I'm Chase Pettet, Lees Summit, Some new guy
   9 Aug 15 20:33:18 <bonthegeek>	Bonnie, garden variety geek
  10 Aug 15 20:33:47 <spr0k3t>	I'm sure there are a few others that are afk at the time.
  11 Aug 15 20:33:53 <wizarth>	Peter Newman, Australia, person who instroduced Bonnie to linux
  12 Aug 15 20:34:09 <spr0k3t>	sweet wizarth... many thanks for that.
  13 Aug 15 20:35:03 <PenguinistaKC>	jbrouhard may be offline, but he is Joe Brouhard, St. Joseph, MO, who assists by administering the IRC and helping to admin the mailing list and team launchpad.
  14 Aug 15 20:35:26 <PenguinistaKC>	If anyone else comes to the computer while we're coursing and discoursing, please go ahead and introduce for the log.
  15 Aug 15 20:35:42 <spr0k3t>	UncleSam is our IRC bot
  16 Aug 15 20:36:07 <PenguinistaKC>	First item on the agenda is review and approval of minutes for the August 1st meeting. They were posted to the mailing list on August 8. Are there any changes or objections to the minutes as posted?
  17 Aug 15 20:36:49 <spr0k3t>	link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MissouriTeam/Meetings/2007AUG01
  18 Aug 15 20:37:04 <PenguinistaKC>	Feel free to post them now, or send them to me via e-mail (mcopple at kcopensource.org) by the end of the meeting. If there are no objections or changes, they will be considered approved as read.
  19 Aug 15 20:37:26 <PenguinistaKC>	Correction, if no objections or changes by end of meeting, they will be considered approved as read.
  20 Aug 15 20:38:11 <spr0k3t>	I would like to say welcome to all the new members of the LoCo
  21 Aug 15 20:38:38 <spr0k3t>	Let's get down to business on the Projects.
  22 Aug 15 20:39:04 <spr0k3t>	The artwork is current developing and we have a couple logo designs.
  23 Aug 15 20:39:07 <PenguinistaKC>	Absolutely. According to my e-mail, we've had eight new members join since the last meeting.
  24 Aug 15 20:39:31 <Rush_898>	As a new person, on our behalf, thanks
  25 Aug 15 20:39:39 <spr0k3t>       https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MissouriTeam/Projects/ArtWork
  26 Aug 15 20:40:48 <spr0k3t>	The logo designs are just an innitial idea... any other submissions are welcome to be added
  27 Aug 15 20:41:54 <spr0k3t>	The designs of the logos still need to be tweaked, but you can get an idea of what works for the trademark policies.
  28 Aug 15 20:43:19 <spr0k3t>	once the logos are finalized and approved by Canonical, we will look into purchasing business cards.  The cards would be a generic introduction to Ubuntu and describe information on the LoCo.
  29 Aug 15 20:44:30 <Rush_898>	what is the extent of the licensing? Does it lend itself to t-shirts, etc as well?
  30 Aug 15 20:44:39 <spr0k3t>	Another point in the artwork are the case tags.  I've offered some funds to purchase some high quality aluminum case tags to be used for welcoming new users
  31 Aug 15 20:45:19 <spr0k3t>	Rush_898: once the logo is considered official with support from canonical, we can do anything we want with the logo so long as it doesn't change.
  32 Aug 15 20:45:41 <CTech>	        I was reading blogs and lost track of time, I'm Jason Wendel, network/linux geek
  33 Aug 15 20:45:58 <spr0k3t>	sweet CTech, morning
  34 Aug 15 20:46:21 <CTech>	        hi everyone
  35 Aug 15 20:46:28 <PenguinistaKC>	Welcome
  36 Aug 15 20:46:44 <spr0k3t>	that brings me to my next point on the list of the agenda... documentation in projects.
  37 Aug 15 20:47:14 <PenguinistaKC>	Before you go on, let's find out if anyone else has questions or concerns
  38 Aug 15 20:47:22 <spr0k3t>	nods
  39 Aug 15 20:47:46 <PenguinistaKC>	We would like to have logo submissions by 1 September, is that correct?
  40 Aug 15 20:48:34 <spr0k3t>	ah yes.. the deadlines for logo submission is set to SEP 01.  The vote for the layout that we present to canonical will be at the following meeting of the 5th.
  41 Aug 15 20:49:08 <PenguinistaKC>	Are there any other questions or comments on the topic?
  42 Aug 15 20:49:43 <spr0k3t>	Just a reminder though, anyone is welcome to submit logo ideas... the more the merrier
  43 Aug 15 20:50:16 <PenguinistaKC>	Please! We're looking for submissions that reflect the whole state, since the LoCo serves the entire state.
  44 Aug 15 20:50:38 <PenguinistaKC>	OK, let's go on to the next item, documentation
  45 Aug 15 20:50:50 <spr0k3t>	this is going to be rather simple.
  46 Aug 15 20:50:55 <PenguinistaKC>	We'll have another comment period at the end of the meeting if anyone thinks of something later.
  47 Aug 15 20:51:46 <spr0k3t>	documentation does not have to be extensive or even official sounding... what I'm looking for are people interested in blogging about their experiences with various programs in Linux... not just ubuntu.
  48 Aug 15 20:52:44 <spr0k3t>	if you have something you would like to write about, I'd like to add this information to the wiki as it will help many newcomers to Linux in general.
  49 Aug 15 20:53:09 <Rush_898>	it would be cool if each member of the LoCo had 5 favorite/recommended applications, it might be a good starting point for documentation too
  50 Aug 15 20:54:03 <spr0k3t>	exellent point Rush_898
  51 Aug 15 20:54:31 <spr0k3t>	Perhaps it could be something added to the personal Wiki pages.
  52 Aug 15 20:55:51 <PenguinistaKC>	spr0k3t, won't putting software documentation on our pages conflict with overall Ubuntu documentation policy?
  53 Aug 15 20:56:08 <spr0k3t>	That's another part of the documentation project... to make a larger presence, I believe we should flesh out the personal Wiki pages a bit.  You can find some good examples by checking out johnc4510, atoponce, nixternal etc
  54 Aug 15 20:56:29 <PenguinistaKC>	I was under the impression that they preferred to have how-tos and such categorized in application-specific areas of the general wiki?
  55 Aug 15 20:57:00 <spr0k3t>	PenguinistaKC: I thought about that, and no, as long as the documentation of the software is your personal experience... no howtos, just what you think... sort of like a review.
  56 Aug 15 20:57:12 <PenguinistaKC>	OK
  57 Aug 15 20:57:43 <spr0k3t>	it's best if we build those reviews on personal blogs, then link to the blogs from the personal wiki pages... from there we can link to those from the MissouriTeam
  58 Aug 15 20:58:01 <spr0k3t>	it's a way of fleshing out the wiki.
  59 Aug 15 20:59:04 <spr0k3t>	any other questions or recomendations at this point?
  60 Aug 15 20:59:18 <PenguinistaKC>	I'm all for it as long as it is useful content. I don't want us stuffing the wiki just to look active.
  61 Aug 15 21:00:43 <PenguinistaKC>	OK, let's move on to LoCo approval process. Again, if anyone wants to add additional comments, we'll have a time at the end of the meeting. This way, we keep things moving for folks who want to get other stuff done tonight. :)
  62 Aug 15 21:01:32 <spr0k3t>	I've got this documentation started as an outline of what to expect
  63 Aug 15 21:01:34 <spr0k3t>       https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MissouriTeam/Projects/Approval
  64 Aug 15 21:01:53 <spr0k3t>	the idea is, establishment and long term projects.
  65 Aug 15 21:03:21 <spr0k3t>	whether those include introducing Ubuntu to X number of users per year... triag so many bugs at launchpad... or whathaveyou.  The projects canonical are looking for are those with the long term expansion in mind.
  66 Aug 15 21:03:50 <spr0k3t>	The other area they look at is activity on the various forms of communication.
  67 Aug 15 21:04:54 <spr0k3t>	feel free to go over the approval form to see what you might be interested in or if you have ideas you can add to the projects.
  68 Aug 15 21:05:15 <PenguinistaKC>	Here's my feedback, for what it's worth.
  69 Aug 15 21:05:34 <PenguinistaKC>	Successful projects stem from a handful of related things:
  70 Aug 15 21:05:42 <PenguinistaKC>	1. A vision
  71 Aug 15 21:05:50 <PenguinistaKC>	2. Resources
  72 Aug 15 21:05:58 <PenguinistaKC>	3. Organization
  73 Aug 15 21:07:12 <PenguinistaKC>	I've been a neighborhood activist for as long as I've been a Linux advocate, and one of the first things I learned as a neighborhood association officer is that when you have a limited number of people with limited time, the projects you choose have to be small, focused, and achievable.
  74 Aug 15 21:07:40 <spr0k3t>	so what do you guys think?  how many people could you introduce to Ubuntu using the LiveCDs?
  75 Aug 15 21:09:24 <PenguinistaKC>	With respect, the first project we need to complete is getting organized and developing a vision.
  76 Aug 15 21:11:15 <spr0k3t>	so does anyone have any questions thus far?
  77 Aug 15 21:11:24 <PenguinistaKC>	While I respect the wishes of the LoCo guys to get everyone approved by the end of the year, I feel it is more important to place this team on a firm, self-sustaining footing that can actually make a long-term difference.
  78 Aug 15 21:12:02 <jbrouhard>	I'm here.. finally
  79 Aug 15 21:12:20 <spr0k3t>	ah, morning Joe!
  80 Aug 15 21:12:26 <jbrouhard>	more like evening
  81 Aug 15 21:12:33 <jbrouhard>	so what are you guys debating now ?
  82 Aug 15 21:12:34 <spr0k3t>	(3rd shift)
  83 Aug 15 21:12:55 <spr0k3t>	at this point we are at the approval process.
  84 Aug 15 21:12:57 <PenguinistaKC>	We're debating whether we should pin your ears back or just slice them off entirely.
  85 Aug 15 21:13:03 <PenguinistaKC>	;)
  86 Aug 15 21:13:07 <spr0k3t>	lol
  87 Aug 15 21:13:10 <jbrouhard>	*snort*
  88 Aug 15 21:14:12 <spr0k3t>	well, anyway, the last bit of the projects is membership drive.
  89 Aug 15 21:14:20 <PenguinistaKC>	Here's what I suggest. First, if folks have ideas for projects, short or long term, please do suggest them. We have a spot for it at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MissouriTeam/Projects
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  93 Aug 15 21:14:55 <spr0k3t>	ah, thanks Matt!
  94 Aug 15 21:15:15 <PenguinistaKC>	In the mean time, let's begin a dialog on the mailing list about formally organizing the team and coming up with tha vision. I have some ideas on both fronts, and I'm sure others do, as well.
  95 Aug 15 21:15:37 <spr0k3t>	sounds good
  96 Aug 15 21:15:45 <PenguinistaKC>	We already had a short discussion on pros & cons of incorporation and such.
  97 Aug 15 21:16:03 <jbrouhard>	Yeah
  98 Aug 15 21:16:05 <jbrouhard>	we did
  99 Aug 15 21:16:09 <spr0k3t>	;)
 100 Aug 15 21:16:12 <jbrouhard>	(kent, Weechat lacks one thing.. scrolling up.)
 101 Aug 15 21:16:23 <spr0k3t>	jbrouhard: pageup
 102 Aug 15 21:16:33 <PenguinistaKC>	With your permission, I will come up with a project plan for it.
 103 Aug 15 21:16:43 <PenguinistaKC>	For organizing, that is.
 104 Aug 15 21:16:47 <PenguinistaKC>	Any objections?
 105 Aug 15 21:17:28 <PenguinistaKC>	We'll discuss it on the mailing list and Kent, why don't we build a page to go along with it so we can keep track of where the discussion and action items are going?
 106 Aug 15 21:17:37 <spr0k3t>	sounds good to me... but something to think about though, there are other groups in the USTeams that are trying to achieve the same... perhaps it would be good if we build upon existing objects.
 107 Aug 15 21:17:52 <jbrouhard>	Eh
 108 Aug 15 21:17:57 <jbrouhard>	For one thing
 109 Aug 15 21:18:01 <jbrouhard>	incorporating is one thing
 110 Aug 15 21:18:01 <PenguinistaKC>	I have no issues with stealing, err, repeating success.
 111 Aug 15 21:18:30 <jbrouhard>	I've got my own personal issues with it, but that's just me.  I'm going with LLC for Proxima Networks to absolve me of any financial problems in the future with the business.
 112 Aug 15 21:18:52 <jbrouhard>	While i've read and understood matt's e-mail, I'm still not sure if i'm in agreement
 113 Aug 15 21:20:11 <PenguinistaKC>	Then let's discuss it on the mailing list. I need to do some research on how other teams are organizing themselves, certainly. 
 114 Aug 15 21:20:16 <jbrouhard>	am i lagging here? <G>
 115 Aug 15 21:20:20 <spr0k3t>	anyway onward to the membership drive
 116 Aug 15 21:20:27 <jbrouhard>	Ok
 117 Aug 15 21:20:28 <PenguinistaKC>	There are probably also legal issues around Canonical that need to be resolved, too.
 118 Aug 15 21:20:35 <PenguinistaKC>	Any other questions or concerns?
 119 Aug 15 21:20:40 <jbrouhard>	Nope not right now
 120 Aug 15 21:21:03 <spr0k3t>	right now it's not important to build our members as we have new users interested every day it seems.
 121 Aug 15 21:21:50 <spr0k3t>	however... if you know of existing ubuntu users in missouri, feel free to let them know about our efforts.
 122 Aug 15 21:22:15 <PenguinistaKC>	Is there anyone here who is from parts of MIssouri other than metro KC?
 123 Aug 15 21:22:22 <PenguinistaKC>	I know that Joe is from St. Joe.
 124 Aug 15 21:22:24 <bonthegeek>	Springfield, here.
 125 Aug 15 21:22:35 <jbrouhard>	Springfield?  kewl
 126 Aug 15 21:22:39 <spr0k3t>	nods
 127 Aug 15 21:22:40 <PenguinistaKC>	bonthegeek, is there a LUG in Springfield of any sort?
 128 Aug 15 21:22:43 <jbrouhard>	Don't think you know Richard Harman do you ?
 129 Aug 15 21:22:54 <bonthegeek>	The best I can tell, it has fizzled and died a month ago.
 130 Aug 15 21:23:17 <PenguinistaKC>	OK.
 131 Aug 15 21:23:20 <spr0k3t>	yeah, the LUG meetings are no longer in Springfield... however I'd like to help change that.
 132 Aug 15 21:23:33 <jbrouhard>	Mind you, everyone, I'm on a livechat system with ipowerweb.com because of some b.s. with atakicksmart.com
 133 Aug 15 21:23:36 <jbrouhard>	so I'm kinda AFK here
 134 Aug 15 21:23:45 <spr0k3t>	smile jbrouhard
 135 Aug 15 21:23:55 <PenguinistaKC>	I would, as well. Let's put reestablishing and expanding our LUG base on the proposed projects list.
 136 Aug 15 21:23:57 <spr0k3t>	still working on that one eh?
 137 Aug 15 21:23:59 *	        jbrouhard notes ipowerweb sucks....
 138 Aug 15 21:24:03 <jbrouhard>	SERIOUSLY sucks
 139 Aug 15 21:24:10 <jbrouhard>	they deleted the bloody databases at atakicksmart.com !
 140 Aug 15 21:24:14 <jbrouhard>	no warning, no nothing
 141 Aug 15 21:24:22 <spr0k3t>	been there.
 142 Aug 15 21:24:22 <bonthegeek>	I'd be glad to chip in on the Springfield LUG efforts, definitely.
 143 Aug 15 21:24:37 <jbrouhard>	I got one question
 144 Aug 15 21:24:44 <spr0k3t>	fire away.
 145 Aug 15 21:24:44 <jbrouhard>	what do you all want to see at LUG meetings ?
 146 Aug 15 21:24:54 <wizarth>	Cheap cola.
 147 Aug 15 21:24:55 <jbrouhard>	That's been the #1 qustion we ask our ATA Students
 148 Aug 15 21:24:59 <spr0k3t>	lol wizarth
 149 Aug 15 21:25:06 <jbrouhard>	what they want to see in classes, tournaments, or even seminars.
 150 Aug 15 21:25:12 <PenguinistaKC>	I want to see you lug in that 4U Rackmount of yours. :0
 151 Aug 15 21:25:14 <jbrouhard>	so, I ask you guys.. what do you want to see at a LUG meeting ?
 152 Aug 15 21:25:24 <jbrouhard>	Matt
 153 Aug 15 21:25:27 <jbrouhard>	I have an 8U rackmount here too
 154 Aug 15 21:25:31 <jbrouhard>	it's about twice as heavy
 155 Aug 15 21:25:38 <PenguinistaKC>	That's going  to depend on the area, Joe.
 156 Aug 15 21:25:38 <jbrouhard>	and i can lug that thing around like it's a backpack so shaddup
 157 Aug 15 21:25:40 <spr0k3t>	yay for rackmounts!
 158 Aug 15 21:25:47 <bonthegeek>	I have never been to one, so I'm not sure what is expected.
 159 Aug 15 21:25:51 <PenguinistaKC>	But that does bring up one last thing:
 160 Aug 15 21:26:09 <jbrouhard>	Okay
 161 Aug 15 21:26:10 <jbrouhard>	How about this
 162 Aug 15 21:26:18 <PenguinistaKC>	Go ahead, Joe.
 163 Aug 15 21:26:18 <jbrouhard>	do you guys want to see a How-to on doing this, that, or whatever else ?
 164 Aug 15 21:26:30 <jbrouhard>	Or maybe even a little LUG meeting that is converted to a LAN party ?
 165 Aug 15 21:26:35 <jbrouhard>	Maybe.. I don't know..
 166 Aug 15 21:26:40 <jbrouhard>	code-a-thon ?
 167 Aug 15 21:26:43 <wizarth>	Oh, linux gaming.
 168 Aug 15 21:26:56 <jbrouhard>	I'm pretty sure linux gaming will go a long way, if I can figure out how to distribute cedega properly
 169 Aug 15 21:27:23 <spr0k3t>	we'll see how that goes.
 170 Aug 15 21:27:29 <PenguinistaKC>	Let's remember, though, that our purpose, as a LoCo anyway, is to work with LUGs. Because we cover the whole state, it would be hard to be a LUG, except in the most general, virtual sense.
 171 Aug 15 21:28:03 <spr0k3t>	the LoCo is an extension of the individual LUGs...
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 173 Aug 15 21:28:48 <spr0k3t>	one thing I would like to do is include some information what is happening around the state at the LUG meetings... just a quick summary of events and whatnot.
 174 Aug 15 21:28:54 <PenguinistaKC>	We can (and will) do a lot of the stuff LUGs do -- provide support for Ubuntu users, introduce folks to Ubuntu, serve as a contact point for folks who are interested in getting ino development or other points. But we have to make sure that we provide services and direct resources to help folks all over the state, rather than just in the KC Metro.
 175 Aug 15 21:29:36 <PenguinistaKC>	Everywhere we can find two or three Linux users, I would like to get a LUG started.
 176 Aug 15 21:29:51 <spr0k3t>	that's a lot of LUGs
 177 Aug 15 21:29:58 <PenguinistaKC>	Perhaps.
 178 Aug 15 21:30:44 <PenguinistaKC>	But a user in Springfield, for instance, will have a lot easier time learning and sticking with Linux if there are several folks providing support and social activities, rather han a mailing list owned by a bunch of guys in KC.
 179 Aug 15 21:30:56 <PenguinistaKC>	That's why we are here.
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 181 Aug 15 21:31:11 <spr0k3t>	so do we have any questions or objections?
 182 Aug 15 21:31:20 <wizarth>	As someone in the boonies I can certainly agree with PenguinistaKC
 183 Aug 15 21:31:22 <bonthegeek>	Springfield is surely big enough to keep a LUG going.  Does anyone know why the recent one folded?
 184 Aug 15 21:31:41 <spr0k3t>	I do...
 185 Aug 15 21:32:07 <spr0k3t>	there was just a lack of meeting up... no real drive or anything.
 186 Aug 15 21:32:24 <PenguinistaKC>	Next and final topic is Regional Lug Meetings.
 187 Aug 15 21:32:45 <spr0k3t>	apparently one of their key users who was the glue moved out of state.
 188 Aug 15 21:33:00 <PenguinistaKC>	Sorry, spr0k3t, didn't mean to interrupt.
 189 Aug 15 21:33:07 <spr0k3t>	n/p, it's on topic
 190 Aug 15 21:33:35 <spr0k3t>	I've already touched on the major points of the LUGs though.
 191 Aug 15 21:33:40 <PenguinistaKC>	KCLUG meets at the downtown library on 1st wednesday and third tuesday.
 192 Aug 15 21:34:08 <PenguinistaKC>	And we will have an informal, Ubuntu-oriented meet 'n' greet at 5 p.m. on Saturday, August 25.
 193 Aug 15 21:34:33 <PenguinistaKC>	I have now forgotten the address, but I will post that to the mailing list. 
 194 Aug 15 21:34:58 <spr0k3t>	cool... so do we have any thoughts?
 195 Aug 15 21:35:07 <PenguinistaKC>	It is a chance for Ubunteros in KC Metro to meet and enjoy life.
 196 Aug 15 21:35:20 <PenguinistaKC>	I will post more on the mailing list this week.
 197 Aug 15 21:36:21 <PenguinistaKC>	After notes -- are there any other comments, suggestions, etc.? I will officially close the log at 9:40 pm CT, so get those comments in the channel or to me via e-mail before then.
 198 Aug 15 21:37:06 <PenguinistaKC>	Otherwise, thank you for coming tonight and we'll see you at our next meeting  on September 5, 8:30 p.m.
 199 Aug 15 21:37:16 <jbrouhard>	Hey guys
 200 Aug 15 21:37:26 <jbrouhard>	Meet and greet August 25th at 5pm ?
 201 Aug 15 21:37:29 <jbrouhard>	I might be late for that one
 202 Aug 15 21:37:46 <jbrouhard>	I'll be at Worlds of Fun all day for an ATA-related thing :)
 203 Aug 15 21:37:49 <PenguinistaKC>	I was thinking of doing a presentation on syncing a Palm with Ubuntu
 204 Aug 15 21:38:12 <spr0k3t>	smile... wish the ipaq worked
 205 Aug 15 21:38:32 <PenguinistaKC>	I got a new Treo 700 which I have been able to mostly get to work.
 206 Aug 15 21:38:33 <wizarth>	You and me both
 207 Aug 15 21:38:34 <spr0k3t>	anyway.. I need to get ready for work.
 208 Aug 15 21:38:38 <PenguinistaKC>	700p, that is
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 210 Aug 15 21:38:56 <spr0k3t>	Matt, can you make sure you log the notes to the mailing list.
 211 Aug 15 21:39:07 <spr0k3t>	erimar77: welcome back!
 212 Aug 15 21:39:08 <PenguinistaKC>	There is a Denny's just down the road, at near the stadiums.
 213 Aug 15 21:39:11 <jbrouhard>	Oh, nice
 214 Aug 15 21:39:18 <erimar77>	I made it... had to go to Linen's n' things with my wife
 215 Aug 15 21:39:23 <jbrouhard>	Stadiums ?
 216 Aug 15 21:39:25 <jbrouhard>	huh?
 217 Aug 15 21:39:26 <jbrouhard>	Oh
 218 Aug 15 21:39:35 <jbrouhard>	Talking about that location of Brett's dad's ?
 219 Aug 15 21:39:50 <spr0k3t>	erimar77: lol, that always seems to happen, doesn't it?
 220 Aug 15 21:39:51 <PenguinistaKC>	So I thought those who wanted to do meeting after the meeting could adjourn to the Denny's for bovine schatology and Grand Slam breakfasts.
 221 Aug 15 21:39:54 <jbrouhard>	spr0k3t: the LPrs did not sell on ebay <G>
 222 Aug 15 21:40:02 <jbrouhard>	LOL
 223 Aug 15 21:40:03 <spr0k3t>	jbrouhard: go fig.
 224 Aug 15 21:40:06 <jbrouhard>	Only if someone buys me dinner
 225 Aug 15 21:40:15 <PenguinistaKC>	Yes, Brett's dad's office.
 226 Aug 15 21:40:16 <erimar77>	where is this meeting your'e planning
 227 Aug 15 21:40:33 <spr0k3t>	erimar77: you've almost missed it... we are in the afternotes part now.
 228 Aug 15 21:40:41 <erimar77>	ok
 229 Aug 15 21:40:49 <erimar77>	I'll catch up when it's posted
 230 Aug 15 21:40:57 <spr0k3t>	but don't worry, we're going to get the log to the mailing list
 231 Aug 15 21:41:00 <PenguinistaKC>	I can't remember the address, but it is at an office complex on highway 40, between sterling and blue ridge drive.
 232 Aug 15 21:41:25 <PenguinistaKC>	In Independence, just down the road from the stadiums, on the north side of I-70.
 233 Aug 15 21:41:49 <PenguinistaKC>	Not far from CoolCrest and V's Italian restaurant.
 234 Aug 15 21:41:57 <PenguinistaKC>	Darn it, the address is completely escaping me.
 235 Aug 15 21:42:02 <PenguinistaKC>	I will get it on the mailing list.
 236 Aug 15 21:42:09 <spr0k3t>	erimar77: since you've made it, why not introduce yourself to the group
 237 Aug 15 21:42:22 <jbrouhard>	I think I remember that area, Matt
 238 Aug 15 21:42:27 <jbrouhard>	pretty close to the old NAU location, no ?
 239 Aug 15 21:42:34 <PenguinistaKC>	You should, you used to go to college there with Adam and I. :)
 240 Aug 15 21:42:37 <jbrouhard>	in fact, I'll bet it's about a good few blocks away
 241 Aug 15 21:42:40 <jbrouhard>	hehe
 242 Aug 15 21:42:50 <jbrouhard>	Oh
 243 Aug 15 21:42:55 <jbrouhard>	may i say something "on record" ??
 244 Aug 15 21:43:06 <spr0k3t>	no you may not jbrouhard.  8^)
 245 Aug 15 21:43:17 <PenguinistaKC>	Go ahead
 246 Aug 15 21:43:21 <jbrouhard>	I out-rank you, spr0k3t.. don't make me kick your arse :)
 247 Aug 15 21:43:33 <jbrouhard>	I did, after all, get Debian on that poweredge.  haha
 248 Aug 15 21:43:43 <erimar77>	I guess since I'm new I'll say something short, I'm from Illinois just across the river from Saint Louis, where I work at WashU as a systems manager
 249 Aug 15 21:43:53 <PenguinistaKC>	Cool!
 250 Aug 15 21:44:03 <jbrouhard>	This goes to ALL Lug members.  I am currently operating Proxima Networks (www.proximanetworks.com) as the owner and cheif Administrator.
 251 Aug 15 21:44:29 <jbrouhard>	If *ANY* Lug.. no matter how big or how small, needs web prescense or even a mailman mailing list, they can contact me
 252 Aug 15 21:44:45 <erimar77>	I'll take a free coffee mug
 253 Aug 15 21:44:52 <jbrouhard>	I am more than willing to work with all LUGs to get them the best service and provide them with what ever they ask for.  Within reason, of course.