This is the nth meeting of the UKTeam, starting at 20:13 BST and finishing at 21:41 BST
Attendance
<hrickards> PRESENT <kn100> present <TheOpenSourcerer> PRESENT <AlanBell> PRESENT <brobostigon> present <markie-> present <slarty> PRESENT <TonyP> present <DJones> PRESENT <stevepearce> PRESENT <Laney> present <ball> PRESENT, just not sure whether I'm supposed to be ;-) <Yownanymous> present <ball> PRESENT <dutchie> PRESENT
Agenda
Who |
What |
UKTeam/GlobalJam09 discussion |
|
Josh Holland |
Free books for LoCos What to do with them |
Alan Bell |
Introducing businesses to Ubuntu |
Alan Bell |
Karmic stuff, KarmicReleaseParties and the like |
Alan Bell |
Date of next meeting |
Minutes
--- Log opened Sun Aug 09 20:13:52 2009 = 2009-08-09:20:13:52-!- Irssi: Starting query in freenode with MootBot = 2009-08-09:20:13:52<MootBot> Meeting started at 14:13. The chair is brobostigon. = 2009-08-09:20:15:46<MootBot> New Topic: UKTeam/GlobalJam09 discussion = 2009-08-09:20:19:24<MootBot> IDEA received: looking for venues = 2009-08-09:20:22:10<MootBot> LINK received: http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/List_of_Hacker_Spaces = 2009-08-09:20:23:11<MootBot> IDEA received: venues to be surveyed and then reported back on. = 2009-08-09:20:25:20<MootBot> IDEA received: video from and to between venues. = 2009-08-09:20:27:30<MootBot> IDEA received: use planet and mailing to promote. = 2009-08-09:20:29:24<MootBot> ACTION received: Laney promote globaljam09 = 2009-08-09:20:31:26<MootBot> ACTION received: at next meeting evaluate progress --- Log closed Sun Aug 09 20:37:01 2009 --- Log opened Sun Aug 09 20:38:58 2009 = 2009-08-09:20:38:58<MootBot> ACTION received: survey locations and report back at next meeting. = 2009-08-09:20:39:30<MootBot> New Topic: Free books for LoCos What to do with them --- Log closed Sun Aug 09 20:45:01 2009 --- Log opened Sun Aug 09 20:48:08 2009 = 2009-08-09:20:48:08<MootBot> Please vote on: elaborate scheme for passing them about. = 2009-08-09:20:50:09<MootBot> Final result is 5 for, 4 against. 3 abstained. Total: 1 = 2009-08-09:20:51:11<MootBot> Please vote on: give them away as prizes in the Ubuntu-uk podcast. = 2009-08-09:20:52:14<MootBot> Final result is 4 for, 6 against. 1 abstained. Total: -2 = 2009-08-09:20:52:36<MootBot> Please vote on: raffle them off at a karmic release party. = 2009-08-09:20:53:40<MootBot> Final result is 5 for, 6 against. 1 abstained. Total: -1 = 2009-08-09:20:55:09<MootBot> Please vote on: keep to use at ubuntu-uk events.. = 2009-08-09:20:56:04<MootBot> Final result is 2 for, 5 against. 3 abstained. Total: -3 = 2009-08-09:20:56:34<MootBot> Please vote on: no-thanks and not take them. = 2009-08-09:20:57:08<MootBot> Final result is 2 for, 5 against. 1 abstained. Total: -3 = 2009-08-09:20:57:45<MootBot> Please vote on: let daviey decide. = 2009-08-09:20:58:44<MootBot> Final result is 5 for, 4 against. 4 abstained. Total: 1 = 2009-08-09:20:59:14<MootBot> Please vote on: donate to a school or library?. = 2009-08-09:21:00:14<MootBot> Final result is 5 for, 2 against. 3 abstained. Total: 3 = 2009-08-09:21:01:06<MootBot> New Topic: Introducing businesses to Ubuntu - Alan Bell = 2009-08-09:21:03:27<MootBot> IDEA received: running some business focussed seminars showing people what linux/ubuntu can do = 2009-08-09:21:05:02<MootBot> IDEA received: Deploy it early and often. = 2009-08-09:21:10:04<MootBot> IDEA received: business focussed Karmic launch event = 2009-08-09:21:11:12<MootBot> New Topic: business focussed Karmic launch event - alan bell = 2009-08-09:21:11:35<MootBot> New Topic: karmic = 2009-08-09:21:13:30<MootBot> Please vote on: pie. = 2009-08-09:21:14:19<MootBot> Final result is 5 for, 0 against. 1 abstained. Total: 5 = 2009-08-09:21:14:37<MootBot> IDEA received: banbury release party, 30th October 09 = 2009-08-09:21:16:29<MootBot> IDEA received: help canonical with release party planning. --- Log closed Sun Aug 09 21:21:16 2009 --- Log opened Sun Aug 09 21:23:17 2009 = 2009-08-09:21:23:17-!- Irssi: Starting query in freenode with MootBot = 2009-08-09:21:23:17<MootBot> IDEA received: corporate focused release party = 2009-08-09:21:27:38<MootBot> IDEA received: talk to canonical about a more business focused event. = 2009-08-09:21:31:37<MootBot> New Topic: next meeting date and time. = 2009-08-09:21:33:14<MootBot> IDEA received: more frequent meetings. = 2009-08-09:21:33:36<MootBot> IDEA received: more regular meetings. = 2009-08-09:21:34:49<MootBot> IDEA received: next meeting on a sunday? = 2009-08-09:21:35:18<MootBot> IDEA received: next meeting, ask in mailing list and irc channel. = 2009-08-09:21:37:32<MootBot> IDEA received: jam specific meeting. = 2009-08-09:21:37:58<MootBot> Please vote on: monthly in channel meetings?. <MootBot> Final result is 5 for, 0 against. 1 abstained. Total: 5 --- Log closed Sun Aug 09 21:39:46 2009 --- Log opened Sun Aug 09 21:41:23 2009 = 2009-08-09:21:41:23-!- Irssi: Starting query in freenode with MootBot = 2009-08-09:21:41:23<MootBot> Meeting finished at 15:41. = 2009-08-09:21:41:23<MootBot> Logs available at http://www.novarata.net/mootbot/ --- Log closed Sun Aug 09 21:42:33 2009
FULL IRC LOG
<brobostigon> #startmeeting <MootBot> Meeting started at 14:13. The chair is brobostigon. <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] <hrickards> PRESENT <kn100> present <TheOpenSourcerer> PRESENT <AlanBell> PRESENT <brobostigon> present <markie-> present <slarty> PRESENT <brobostigon> ok, first topic is? <TonyP> present <DJones> PRESENT <stevepearce> PRESENT <kn100> # <Laney> present <matti> What's all about? <AlanBell> brobostigon: UKTeam/GlobalJam09 discussion https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeamMeetingAgenda <ball> PRESENT, just not sure whether I'm supposed to be ;-) <Yownanymous> present <ball> PRESENT <hrickards> AlanBell: Would popey want to save that for next time though (his names on it on the wiki) <AlanBell> ball: anyone here and paying attention can say present <brobostigon> [TOPIC] UKTeam/GlobalJam09 discussion <MootBot> New Topic: UKTeam/GlobalJam09 discussion <ball> Thanks AlanBell <AlanBell> hrickards: lets say what we have to say, if popey wants to add anything later he can <AlanBell> so the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/GlobalJam09 uk jam has a few people participating <AlanBell> and this is what it is all about https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam <hrickards> I'll Add myself no (unfortunately with no under in-person) <dutchie> PRESENT <AlanBell> by the look of that page we are lacking venues <ubuntujenkins> present <AlanBell> does anyone have a suitable venue they can beg borrow or steal? <brobostigon> [idea] looking for venues <MootBot> IDEA received: looking for venues <markie-> The Wales area would be nice. <dutchie> there's two marked in swansea <czajkowski> Aloha folks <matti> czajkowski: Shhy... they have a meeting you see. <matti> ;] <hrickards> What about one of these new 'hacker space' venues? They might rent one for free to some Linux geeks. <TheOpenSourcerer> What do we need for a venue? Room Size, capacity, location etc? * matti hugs czajkowski <AlanBell> hrickards: what are they? <hrickards> AlanBell: See http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Hackerspaces <hrickards> AlanBell: That probably explains it better than I can <dutchie> there are quite a few <matti> hrickards: Nice! <dutchie> perhaps someone near to one should check it out and report back? <dutchie> http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/List_of_Hacker_Spaces <MootBot> LINK received: http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/List_of_Hacker_Spaces <brobostigon> dutchie: thats a good idea. <Laney> where would you have an additional one? <AlanBell> wow, that looks really good, and something worth supporting <Laney> too much fragmentation would be bad <brobostigon> [IDEA] venues to be surveyed and then reported back on. <MootBot> IDEA received: venues to be surveyed and then reported back on. <dutchie> Laney: video streams are usual <Laney> streaming to one guy on his own in a room? <AlanBell> dutchie: streaming between venues? <dutchie> one guy would be pushing it <dutchie> 4 or 5 would be about the minimum <Laney> right <brobostigon> and outside access to the streams aswell. <Laney> and we don't have that many people down as attending <dutchie> AlanBell: we did back in march (or whenever the last one was) <brobostigon> [IDEA] video from and to between venues. <MootBot> IDEA received: video from and to between venues. <jpds> Febuary. <hrickards> I can probably get some people from GLLUG and SLUG to come (even if only via IRC) <AlanBell> I don't think the signup sheet for the jam has been sufficiently promoted in ubuntu-uk mailing list and on the planet <Laney> no there's an action <Laney> now <Laney> someone on planet to write a post? <brobostigon> [idea] use planet and mailing to promote. <MootBot> IDEA received: use planet and mailing to promote. <dutchie> I'm on planet ubuntu-uk, but I think planet ubuntu is considerably better read <Laney> who's on it? <Laney> besides me... <AlanBell> well everyone can post about it really <Laney> sure, everyone can <Laney> but at least one person should <Laney> brobostigon: you can action me to <Josh_> hello <brobostigon> [action] Laney promote globaljam09 <MootBot> ACTION received: Laney promote globaljam09 * Josh_ is confused <Laney> imo we shouldn't look to expand unless we have a need to <dutchie> Josh_: we're having a meeting <Josh_> oh ok lol <Josh_> what is the meeting about? <Laney> so if we have another meeting soon we can evaluate then <AlanBell> Josh_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeamMeetingAgenda <brobostigon> Josh_: have a look at the meeting agenda on the uk wiki <Josh_> erm, ok... <brobostigon> Laney: yes. <AlanBell> is there anything particular we want to do in a non-bug way for the jam? <brobostigon> [action] at next meeting evaluate progress <MootBot> ACTION received: at next meeting evaluate progress <dutchie> does anybody have a particular skill/experience in eg translations? <hrickards> What about giving out the free books for locos at jams? <Laney> we'll get to that <Laney> dutchie: we have some motus in here <Josh_> oh so is this the meeting for free books for LoCos? <Laney> not sure about triagers, translators or document writers <Josh_> what exactly does that mean? <AlanBell> Josh_: that would be the next topic on the agenda <brobostigon> Josh_: no, we are on the first egenda item. <Josh_> oh okay <hrickards> Josh_: So at the mo we're talking about a Bug Jam (see wiki) in October <AlanBell> I am interested in marketing and other advocacy at the jam <dutchie> if possible, it would be good to distribute experienced people across locations <Laney> are there talks? practical sessions? <AlanBell> dutchie: true, good reason to get people and locations sorted then. <dutchie> the birmingham one is confirmed, and <dutchie> Mez is a member <Josh_> AlanBell: why is it that your name is sometimes yellow?? sorry, random question but i'm curious <brobostigon> dutchie: i maybe be able to attend that one, if my health is ok. * dutchie should be able to make it for the w/e <hrickards> Josh_: Probably when he puts your name at the start of a message like this. <AlanBell> Josh_: when I talk directly to you it highlights me <brobostigon> ok, do we need a vote on action? <Josh_> oh ok <dutchie> we could do with a location up north <dutchie> anyone around there? <AlanBell> brobostigon: don't think we have a proposal that needs a vote <brobostigon> [action] survey locations and report back at next meeting. <MootBot> ACTION received: survey locations and report back at next meeting. <dutchie> ok, next item? <brobostigon> AlanBell: ok, next topic then? <AlanBell> sure <brobostigon> [topic] Free books for LoCos What to do with them <MootBot> New Topic: Free books for LoCos What to do with them <dutchie> right, has everyone read Jono's post? <AlanBell> so this is a pair of books <AlanBell> suggestion in the post was to share them about <AlanBell> one is on ubuntu desktop, one on server <brobostigon> AlanBell: between all the loco's? <dutchie> no, within UK <ball> Is there an Ubuntu UK Memorial Library? ;-) <brobostigon> ah, ok. <AlanBell> brobostigon: a pair per loco, so UK gets a pair. <brobostigon> AlanBell: uk and cym, ok. <Yownanymous> wow, the UK gets 2 books <Yownanymous> 4 then <Yownanymous> :P <dutchie> is u-cym registered? <AlanBell> and we have to pay for shipping <brobostigon> dutchie: yes. <hrickards> What would be the legality of scanning them in and creating an ebook (*without* drm) for ubuntu-uk users? <dutchie> yes, so 4 in UK <jpds> cym is not an official LoCo team. <AlanBell> hrickards: no, this is a promotional gift from the publishers in order to get them more sales <Yownanymous> Canonical make enough money off, why can't they pay shipping? <brobostigon> ok, so what happens to said books in each of the loco's? <dutchie> they have to be claimed by 13th Aug, so Daviey will have to email them before them <dutchie> brobostigon: that's up to the loco <brobostigon> dutchie: ok. <AlanBell> so we could have some elaborate scheme for passing them about <brobostigon> dutchie: i will get in contact with ianto aswell. <AlanBell> we could give them away as prizes in the Ubuntu-uk podcast <dutchie> AlanBell: that was what I wanted to discuss really <Laney> someone could keep them for events <AlanBell> we could raffle them off at a karmic release party <brobostigon> AlanBell: i will get hold of ianto and make plan for ubuntu-cym. <AlanBell> we could say no-thanks and not take them. <AlanBell> any other ideas? <stevepearce> how about donating them to a library? <ubuntujenkins> something that is free should be had <hrickards> What about giving them away at the Bug Jam for the person who fixes the most bugs? <stevepearce> or a school or something similar <jpds> brobostigon: You can't, as cym is not official. * dutchie thinks they should be shared around somehow <brobostigon> jpds: ah, ok, thanks. <AlanBell> I think a vote is in order, don't want to spend too much time on a pair of books <ubuntujenkins> +1 for the shared not sure how though <brobostigon> jpds: i wasnt sure of the status, so thanks for elaborating. <markie-> stevepearce: +1 <brobostigon> AlanBell: vote on what? <AlanBell> on what to do with them, not sure how we vote on multiple options? *** jono_ is now known as jono <dutchie> we have "donate to library/school", "share around", "give away as prize" <hrickards> +1 for the vote <brobostigon> AlanBell: i think we can only vote on a single point at once. <AlanBell> how about I do a numbered list of options and everyone shouts a number <hagisbasheruk> 0 <brobostigon> AlanBell: thats not practical. <brobostigon> voting methos. <brobostigon> method* <dutchie> proceed through the ideas until one gets a majority <brobostigon> ok, first one AlanBell is? <AlanBell> elaborate scheme for passing them about <dutchie> +1 <ubuntujenkins> +1 <brobostigon> [vote] elaborate scheme for passing them about <MootBot> Please vote on: elaborate scheme for passing them about. <MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot <MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-uk <AlanBell> -1 <MootBot> -1 received from AlanBell. 0 for, 1 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now -1 <dutchie> +1 <MootBot> +1 received from dutchie. 1 for, 1 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 0 <TheOpenSourcerer> +1 <MootBot> +1 received from TheOpenSourcerer. 2 for, 1 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1 <ubuntujenkins> +1 <TonyP> +1 <MootBot> +1 received from ubuntujenkins. 3 for, 1 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2 <MootBot> +1 received from TonyP. 4 for, 1 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3 <hrickards> +0 <markie-> -1 <MootBot> Abstention received from hrickards. 4 for, 1 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 3 <MootBot> -1 received from markie-. 4 for, 2 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 2 <Laney> -1 <MootBot> -1 received from Laney. 4 for, 3 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 1 <stevepearce> -1 <MootBot> -1 received from stevepearce. 4 for, 4 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 0 <ball> +0 <MootBot> Abstention received from ball. 4 for, 4 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now 0 <Yownanymous> +0 <MootBot> Abstention received from Yownanymous. 4 for, 4 against. 3 have abstained. Count is now 0 <hrickards> -1 <hrickards> Damn. Can't I change my vote? <AlanBell> hrickards: vote again, see what happens <hrickards> AlanBell: Just did. Nothing. Oh well. <dutchie> someone else vote <Laney> why? <hagisbasheruk> +1 <MootBot> +1 received from hagisbasheruk. 5 for, 4 against. 3 have abstained. Count is now 1 <dutchie> there, we have a majority <brobostigon> [endvote] <AlanBell> next vote will be on "give them away as prizes in the Ubuntu-uk podcast" when all done <Laney> rofl <MootBot> Final result is 5 for, 4 against. 3 abstained. Total: 1 <matti> LOL <brobostigon> next one? * Laney wanders away in a daze <ball> Oooh... I feel I should abstain, but I really like this option. <brobostigon> [vote] give them away as prizes in the Ubuntu-uk podcast <MootBot> Please vote on: give them away as prizes in the Ubuntu-uk podcast. <MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot <MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-uk <hrickards> +1 <AlanBell> +1 <MootBot> +1 received from hrickards. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1 <MootBot> +1 received from AlanBell. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2 <DJones> +1 <dutchie> -1 <MootBot> +1 received from DJones. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3 <MootBot> -1 received from dutchie. 3 for, 1 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2 <ubuntujenkins> -1 <MootBot> -1 received from ubuntujenkins. 3 for, 2 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1 <TheOpenSourcerer> -1 <markie-> -1 <MootBot> -1 received from TheOpenSourcerer. 3 for, 3 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 0 <MootBot> -1 received from markie-. 3 for, 4 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now -1 <stevepearce> -1 <MootBot> -1 received from stevepearce. 3 for, 5 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now -2 <Yownanymous> +1 <MootBot> +1 received from Yownanymous. 4 for, 5 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now -1 <Laney> -1 <MootBot> -1 received from Laney. 4 for, 6 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now -2 <jpds> I thought popey said he was thinking about giving them away on the podcast? <Laney> the power of democracy! <ball> +0 <MootBot> Abstention received from ball. 4 for, 6 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now -2 <brobostigon> [endvote] <MootBot> Final result is 4 for, 6 against. 1 abstained. Total: -2 <stevepearce> yes, but do that and the books will end up in the hands of one person <stevepearce> (maybe) <brobostigon> [vote] raffle them off at a karmic release party <MootBot> Please vote on: raffle them off at a karmic release party. <MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot <MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-uk <hrickards> +1 <MootBot> +1 received from hrickards. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1 <Yownanymous> +1 <MootBot> +1 received from Yownanymous. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2 <dutchie> -1 <MootBot> -1 received from dutchie. 2 for, 1 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1 <markie-> -1 <DJones> -1 <MootBot> -1 received from markie-. 2 for, 2 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 0 <MootBot> -1 received from DJones. 2 for, 3 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now -1 <stevepearce> +1 <MootBot> +1 received from stevepearce. 3 for, 3 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 0 <AlanBell> +1 <TheOpenSourcerer> -1 <MootBot> +1 received from AlanBell. 4 for, 3 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1 <ubuntujenkins> -1 <MootBot> -1 received from TheOpenSourcerer. 4 for, 4 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 0 <MootBot> -1 received from ubuntujenkins. 4 for, 5 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now -1 <Laney> +1 <MootBot> +1 received from Laney. 5 for, 5 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 0 <AlanBell> not very positive are we! <jpds> Which party? <TonyP> -1 <MootBot> -1 received from TonyP. 5 for, 6 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now -1 <Laney> tbd <ball> +0 <MootBot> Abstention received from ball. 5 for, 6 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now -1 <jpds> Laney: London rulez. <Laney> technically ye <Laney> s <hrickards> jono: Quick vote for +1 <brobostigon> [endvote] <AlanBell> jpds: probably london, but from the count it looks academic anyhow <MootBot> Final result is 5 for, 6 against. 1 abstained. Total: -1 <TheOpenSourcerer> We'd need a vote <TheOpenSourcerer> :-) <brobostigon> TheOpenSourcerer: what on? <hagisbasheruk> -0 <dutchie> it looks like sharing them around then <AlanBell> dutchie: we are not done yet <TheOpenSourcerer> Which party but it doesn't matter. <Laney> hey you ignored my suggestion * Laney hisses <hrickards> AlanBell: what else is left? <DJones> raffling them off is a bad idea, there will be multiple release parties, selecting one to raffle them at would need a vote/discussion and even then they end up in the hands of one person <brobostigon> Laney: sorry, i must have missed it, what was it.? <stevepearce> mine also, donating them to a library or school <Laney> keeping them to use at u-uk events <dutchie> ok, two more <markie-> brobostigon: library one <brobostigon> [vote] keep to use at ubuntu-uk events. <MootBot> Please vote on: keep to use at ubuntu-uk events.. <MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot <MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-uk <hrickards> +0 <MootBot> Abstention received from hrickards. 0 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 0 <ball> +0 <MootBot> Abstention received from ball. 0 for, 0 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now 0 <markie-> -1 <MootBot> -1 received from markie-. 0 for, 1 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now -1 <TheOpenSourcerer> -1 <MootBot> -1 received from TheOpenSourcerer. 0 for, 2 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now -2 <TonyP> -1 <MootBot> -1 received from TonyP. 0 for, 3 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now -3 <stevepearce> -1 <MootBot> -1 received from stevepearce. 0 for, 4 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now -4 <ubuntujenkins> -1 <MootBot> -1 received from ubuntujenkins. 0 for, 5 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now -5 <AlanBell> +1 <MootBot> +1 received from AlanBell. 1 for, 5 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now -4 <Laney> +1 <MootBot> +1 received from Laney. 2 for, 5 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now -3 <Laney> :( <dutchie> +0 <MootBot> Abstention received from dutchie. 2 for, 5 against. 3 have abstained. Count is now -3 * Laney has backed a loser <brobostigon> [endvote] <MootBot> Final result is 2 for, 5 against. 3 abstained. Total: -3 <AlanBell> remaining options are say no-thanks and not take them <AlanBell> donating them to a library/school <brobostigon> ok, anymore ideas on this front? <TheOpenSourcerer> has anyone actually stated that they "want" the books in the first place? <brobostigon> [vote] no-thanks and not take them <MootBot> Please vote on: no-thanks and not take them. <MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot <MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-uk * dutchie -1 <ball> +0 <MootBot> Abstention received from ball. 0 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 0 <dutchie> -1 <ubuntujenkins> -1 <MootBot> -1 received from dutchie. 0 for, 1 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now -1 <MootBot> -1 received from ubuntujenkins. 0 for, 2 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now -2 <AlanBell> +1 <MootBot> +1 received from AlanBell. 1 for, 2 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now -1 <hrickards> -1 <Laney> +1 <markie-> -1 <MootBot> -1 received from hrickards. 1 for, 3 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now -2 <MootBot> -1 received from markie-. 1 for, 4 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now -3 <MootBot> +1 received from Laney. 2 for, 4 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now -2 <stevepearce> -1 <MootBot> -1 received from stevepearce. 2 for, 5 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now -3 <DJones> How about letting Daviey decide the best use of the books as the "leader" of ubuntu-uk <brobostigon> [endvote] <MootBot> Final result is 2 for, 5 against. 1 abstained. Total: -3 <dutchie> DJones: if he was here... <AlanBell> DJones: well the point of this is to have a democratic decision <TonyP> -1 <TheOpenSourcerer> we could vote on letting Daviey decide. <TheOpenSourcerer> ;-) <brobostigon> [vote] let daviey decide <MootBot> Please vote on: let daviey decide. <MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot <MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-uk <DJones> +1 <MootBot> +1 received from DJones. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1 <TheOpenSourcerer> +1 <stevepearce> +1 <MootBot> +1 received from TheOpenSourcerer. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2 <MootBot> +1 received from stevepearce. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3 <dutchie> +0 <MootBot> Abstention received from dutchie. 3 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 3 <hrickards> -1 <MootBot> -1 received from hrickards. 3 for, 1 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 2 <markie-> -1 <MootBot> -1 received from markie-. 3 for, 2 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 1 <AlanBell> +0 <MootBot> Abstention received from AlanBell. 3 for, 2 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now 1 <ubuntujenkins> -1 <MootBot> -1 received from ubuntujenkins. 3 for, 3 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now 0 <TonyP> +0 <MootBot> Abstention received from TonyP. 3 for, 3 against. 3 have abstained. Count is now 0 <ball> +0 <MootBot> Abstention received from ball. 3 for, 3 against. 4 have abstained. Count is now 0 <hagisbasheruk> +1 <MootBot> +1 received from hagisbasheruk. 4 for, 3 against. 4 have abstained. Count is now 1 <Laney> -1 <MootBot> -1 received from Laney. 4 for, 4 against. 4 have abstained. Count is now 0 <jpds> +1 <MootBot> +1 received from jpds. 5 for, 4 against. 4 have abstained. Count is now 1 <brobostigon> [endvote] <MootBot> Final result is 5 for, 4 against. 4 abstained. Total: 1 <markie-> did i miss 'donate to the library'? <TheOpenSourcerer> lol <brobostigon> ok, one more, <AlanBell> markie-: comming right up I think <brobostigon> [vote] donate to a school or library? <MootBot> Please vote on: donate to a school or library?. <MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot <MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-uk <hrickards> +1 <MootBot> +1 received from hrickards. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1 <AlanBell> +1 <MootBot> +1 received from AlanBell. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2 <stevepearce> +1 <dutchie> +0 <MootBot> +1 received from stevepearce. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3 <ubuntujenkins> what library <MootBot> Abstention received from dutchie. 3 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 3 <TheOpenSourcerer> -1 <MootBot> -1 received from TheOpenSourcerer. 3 for, 1 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 2 <DJones> -1 <MootBot> -1 received from DJones. 3 for, 2 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 1 <markie-> +1 <MootBot> +1 received from markie-. 4 for, 2 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 2 <Laney> elaborate scheme for passing around every library in the country <ubuntujenkins> +1 <MootBot> +1 received from ubuntujenkins. 5 for, 2 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 3 <TonyP> +0 <MootBot> Abstention received from TonyP. 5 for, 2 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now 3 <ball> +0 <MootBot> Abstention received from ball. 5 for, 2 against. 3 have abstained. Count is now 3 <Mez> dutchie: member of what? <dutchie> ubuntu <brobostigon> [endvote] <Mez> yup <MootBot> Final result is 5 for, 2 against. 3 abstained. Total: 3 <brobostigon> ok, everyone done, on this one? <AlanBell> yay, we have a decision * ball abstains again, just for good measure. <hrickards> Is there a reason mibbit wont connect to irc.ubuntu.com? * TheOpenSourcerer thinks more beer is in order. <jpds> hrickards: Blocked off. <brobostigon> [topic] Introducing businesses to Ubuntu - Alan Bell <MootBot> New Topic: Introducing businesses to Ubuntu - Alan Bell <DJones> hrickards: mibbet is no longer allowed on freenode <AlanBell> I suggest we let daviey donate them to any library that will accept them <AlanBell> oh, next topic, good <stevepearce> aye <brobostigon> AlanBell: fire away. <AlanBell> So, I would like to see the loco team doing more stuff to get businesses aware of and interested in Ubuntu <AlanBell> maybe running some business focussed seminars showing people what it can do <AlanBell> this is something that we do in our business, mainly promoting what we do on top of Ubuntu, but anything that raises awareness of Free software is good <brobostigon> [idea] running some business focussed seminars showing people what linux/ubuntu can do <MootBot> IDEA received: running some business focussed seminars showing people what linux/ubuntu can do <AlanBell> gosh did I really have an idea? <ball> I hope to put it on a small file server that I look after. Just need to be confident that my backups are working before I wipe it. <AlanBell> does anyone else have ideas or suggestions on what we could do for business focussed advocacy? <AlanBell> this might be an area where money could be found if costs need to be met <ball> [idea] Deploy it early and often. <MootBot> IDEA received: Deploy it early and often. <TheOpenSourcerer> What do you mean ball <ball> TheOpenSourcerer: Use it successfully somewhere and then document what you've done. Show people that it works and what its advantages are. <AlanBell> in Dublin there is the OSS bar camp run by czajkowski, could we do something similarish? <ball> e.g. there's a productivity win in binary packages and automated updates. <TheOpenSourcerer> OK - so case studies. * ball nods <AlanBell> so how do we raise awareness of the case studies we have? <TheOpenSourcerer> Typical LoCo promotional activities tend to focus on: people who are already FOSS aware to some extent, and individuals. <ball> ...if the community has helped you set something up, document that too because it supports the value of both the software and the people using it. <AlanBell> and does anyone have a case study that they want help writing up? <ball> AlanBell: give me a month or seven ;-) <brobostigon> ok, so what the plan on this one. * daubers doesn't arrive late <AlanBell> how about a business focussed Karmic launch event (creeping over into the next item) <brobostigon> [idea] business focussed Karmic launch event <MootBot> IDEA received: business focussed Karmic launch event <brobostigon> ok, shall we move on? <AlanBell> ok <brobostigon> [topic] business focussed Karmic launch event - alan bell <MootBot> New Topic: business focussed Karmic launch event - alan bell <AlanBell> err <brobostigon> [topic] karmic <MootBot> New Topic: karmic <AlanBell> much beter <BobIsNotMyUncle> There should be pie <AlanBell> so Karmic Koala, open discussion * dutchie is running it <stevepearce> same <dutchie> it only breaks occasionally :) * AlanBell picked lots of blackberries for a blackberry and apple pie <ball> [observation] I like pie. <ubuntujenkins> +1 <BobIsNotMyUncle> +2 <ball> vote? <ubuntujenkins> yes <brobostigon> ok, banbury release party, 30th October 09 <brobostigon> [vote] pie <MootBot> Please vote on: pie. <MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot <MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-uk <dutchie> +1 <ubuntujenkins> +1 <MootBot> +1 received from dutchie. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1 <ball> +1 <MootBot> +1 received from ubuntujenkins. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2 <MootBot> +1 received from ball. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3 <AlanBell> +1 <MootBot> +1 received from AlanBell. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4 <BobIsNotMyUncle> +1 <MootBot> +1 received from BobIsNotMyUncle. 5 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 5 <TheOpenSourcerer> 0 <TheOpenSourcerer> +0 <MootBot> Abstention received from TheOpenSourcerer. 5 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 5 <dutchie> :o <TheOpenSourcerer> Depends on what is in the pie <brobostigon> [endvote] <MootBot> Final result is 5 for, 0 against. 1 abstained. Total: 5 <TheOpenSourcerer> This is going downhill rapidly. <brobostigon> [idea] banbury release party, 30th October 09 <MootBot> IDEA received: banbury release party, 30th October 09 <AlanBell> anyhow, back to the koala <BobIsNotMyUncle> How is support for 802.11n? <brobostigon> BobIsNotMyUncle: not now. <AlanBell> there is usually a london party announced at the last moment by Canonical <brobostigon> yep AlanBell <AlanBell> I think we should try once more to help them sort it out a bit earlier <AlanBell> I think Kat Kinnie might have moved on from Canonical? <brobostigon> [idea] help canonical with release party planning. <MootBot> IDEA received: help canonical with release party planning. <TheOpenSourcerer> The London venue needs to be larger than the last 2 <TheOpenSourcerer> But still free to get in. And preferably in a pub. <BobIsNotMyUncle> An idea raised at my local ALUG was to merge the release date with a meet, maybe this on a larger scale could be organised? <AlanBell> TheOpenSourcerer: preferably with a bar <daubers> It might be worth trying to get some press attendence too <BobIsNotMyUncle> * LUG <AlanBell> not neccessarily a pub <brobostigon> daubers: good idea. <brobostigon> daubers: thats certainly my plan here in banbury. <TheOpenSourcerer> AlanBell: I know where you are heading with that but I think it needs to be a static venue. <TheOpenSourcerer> Where people can come and go at times of their choosing. <AlanBell> TheOpenSourcerer: no, I wasn't heading anywhere particular, just a low age limit <TheOpenSourcerer> daubers: CodePope from The H was at the last one. <TheOpenSourcerer> But some more mainstream press would be good. <daubers> Never heard of either of them! <ubuntujenkins> I agree with alanbell there should be a low age limit *** BobIsNotMyUncle is now known as BenBewick <TheOpenSourcerer> Dan leMesuirier was there too. <AlanBell> press attendance was one reason I was thinking about a business focussed party <AlanBell> in addition to a geeks getting smashed party <brobostigon> yes, <dutchie> the two should definitely be separate <TheOpenSourcerer> Do you not think the press like getting pissed? <Nafallo> lol <TheOpenSourcerer> I know of no journalists who are teetotal <BenBewick> beer == press incentive? <AlanBell> TheOpenSourcerer: yes they do! <brobostigon> [idea] press attended karmic release party <MootBot> IDEA received: press attended karmic release party <AlanBell> however they do like to have some content to write about in the event <brobostigon> am i connected, <BenBewick> brobostigon: yes <daubers> brobostigon: yes <AlanBell> brobostigon: to what? <hagisbasheruk> lol , not to the net <BenBewick> brobostigon: wb <AlanBell> ok, so we like the idea of two london parties? <brobostigon> sorry/ <brobostigon> adsl interruption <dutchie> perhaps start off all corporate and enterprisy, then go out and hit the pub :D <TheOpenSourcerer> I'm not sure I do. <AlanBell> or launch events rather. With a different focus and atmosphere to each <AlanBell> dutchie: sounds good <ball> My time has expired. I hope the rest of the meeting goes well. <brobostigon> [idea] corporate focused release party <TheOpenSourcerer> A business event needs to be very different. <MootBot> IDEA received: corporate focused release party <ubuntuuk-planet> [Jono Bacon] Community Council: Why I Chose Not To Stand - http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/08/09/community-council-why-i-chose-not-to-stand/ <brobostigon> ok, so a plan, a vote? <AlanBell> TheOpenSourcerer: yes it does <TheOpenSourcerer> Needs lots of slideware and giveaways etc. <brobostigon> pens, lanyards? <brobostigon> flash drives? <TheOpenSourcerer> A launch party needs beer <dutchie> canonical will no doubt supply <hagisbasheruk> CDs <brobostigon> ok, so any specific thing we need to record in action or vote? <Nafallo> not that Canonical will supply beer, that's for sure. but it was a nice quote ;-) <TheOpenSourcerer> If we think it is a good diea to hold a more business event too, then we should <TheOpenSourcerer> promote that to canonical. <AlanBell> well we would have to talk to canonical about such a concept <brobostigon> [idea] talk to canonical about a more business focused event. <MootBot> IDEA received: talk to canonical about a more business focused event. <BenBewick> There should be an ubuntu tie / tie clip for buisness promotion <hagisbasheruk> buisnesscard cd's <TheOpenSourcerer> BenBewick: I don't know many folks who wear ties regularly. <BenBewick> IT people at work do. For example, in our IT area at college <Nafallo> go to Canary Wharf a regular working day :-) * BenBewick lives in Norfolk <AlanBell> any more karmic related stuff to discuss? <czajkowski> Nafallo: cant imagine you wearing a tie <Nafallo> czajkowski: neither can I :-) <hagisbasheruk> fix ath5k it sux when downloading iso files <BenBewick> How about a pxe server at the launch event for netbooks and the like <AlanBell> BenBewick: the pub events have never really called for any technology <AlanBell> beyond the science of fermentation <brobostigon> hehe. <brobostigon> ok, is that it for this topic? <zleap> hi <jpds> Nafallo: Release party at Brera? Interesting.. <TheOpenSourcerer> Date for the next meet then? <Nafallo> jpds: too small venue <brobostigon> [topic] next meeting date and time. <MootBot> New Topic: next meeting date and time. <Nafallo> jpds: we'd have to take over the entire Jubilee Place ;-) <TheOpenSourcerer> Is Sunday eve the *best* time for everyone? <jpds> Nafallo: Haha. <AlanBell> do we want to have more frequent meetings?/regular meetings? <TheOpenSourcerer> I would suggest monthly <TheOpenSourcerer> regular <brobostigon> [idea] more frequent meetings. <MootBot> IDEA received: more frequent meetings. <brobostigon> [idea] more regular meetings. <MootBot> IDEA received: more regular meetings. <AlanBell> I guess sunday evening is going to be achieveable for everyone who turned up, but would another day/time get more people who are not here now? <brobostigon> ok, is that it? <TheOpenSourcerer> They aren't here. <brobostigon> [idea] next meeting on a sunday? <MootBot> IDEA received: next meeting on a sunday? <TheOpenSourcerer> We need to ask in the channel <dutchie> or on the list <TheOpenSourcerer> over a couple of weeks <TheOpenSourcerer> get a good consensus <brobostigon> [idea] next meeting, ask in mailing list and irc channel. <MootBot> IDEA received: next meeting, ask in mailing list and irc channel. *** filo1234_ is now known as filo1234 <AlanBell> so monthly would put us into the second week of September <AlanBell> which is prior to the global jam <TheOpenSourcerer> the 6th would be a month today. <AlanBell> and we need to work out the best time, or leave it on Sunday 6th if no better date arrises <brobostigon> ok, these ideas of dates and times need to be recorded? <daubers> might be worth having a jame specific meeting in a couple of weeks <daubers> s/jame/jam <AlanBell> shall we do a vote on monthly meetings? <TheOpenSourcerer> good suggestion <daubers> just a quick one to see where things stand <brobostigon> [idea] jam specific meeting. <MootBot> IDEA received: jam specific meeting. <brobostigon> [vote] monthly in channel meetings? <MootBot> Please vote on: monthly in channel meetings?. <MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot <MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-uk <AlanBell> +1 <MootBot> +1 received from AlanBell. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1 <dutchie> +1 <MootBot> +1 received from dutchie. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2 <ubuntujenkins> +1 <TheOpenSourcerer> +1 <MootBot> +1 received from TheOpenSourcerer. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3 <stevepearce> +1 <MootBot> +1 received from ubuntujenkins. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4 <MootBot> +1 received from stevepearce. 5 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 5 <BenBewick> +0 <MootBot> Abstention received from BenBewick. 5 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 5 <AlanBell> hmm, I think we might get a vote tally > 6 at some other point in the week. <brobostigon> [endvote] <MootBot> Final result is 5 for, 0 against. 1 abstained. Total: 5 <TheOpenSourcerer> hmmm not exactly a quorum of approval <TheOpenSourcerer> 6 votes. <brobostigon> adsl, arghhh <brobostigon> ok, sorry. <TheOpenSourcerer> Thanks for chairing brobostigon <AlanBell> same results as the pie vote <AlanBell> yes, well done brobostigon <brobostigon> AlanBell: is that it? <TheOpenSourcerer> AOB? <brobostigon> #endmeeting <MootBot> Meeting finished at 15:41.