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UPDATE - As of Alpha-4, some components were unavailable. We are now targeting the following: kernel: 2.6.31 libdrm: 2.6.12 mesa: 7.6 x-server: 1.6.3 xorg: 7.4 |
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| Duallink DVI: R600 and newer TV-Out: R600 and newer |
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| Key Karmic Goals for X.org -------------------------- |
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| Key design points for this objective: * No plymouth at all. * No usplash for a default boot. * usplash will be started for fsck, and for entering a passphrase for encrypted root partitions. * X will be started as early as possible in the boot process and just display a bg image with a throbber. Once enough of the system is up, gdm starts and replaces the throbber. |
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| More Information ---------------- |
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| Ubuntu Alpha release ISOs are available at: | Ubuntu Alpha release ISOs are available for testing at: |
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| == Design / Rationale == | |
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| -intel version 2.9 may be available in time for Karmic. There are no major features planned for that release; mostly it will be removing non-KMS code (not something we care about). However it may contain some worthwhile bug fixes, so may be worth consideration if it is released with sufficient time for integration; we'll plan on 2.8 for now and see how things go. == Implementation Tasks == * (DONE) Write roadmap * (DONE) Send roadmap to video driver partners, Mobile team, and any other X.org requirements consumers * (DONE) Pull intel-gpu-tools into Karmic/Universe * (DONE) Update directions at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-freeze-test (Probably move into wiki) * (DONE) Follow up with jbarnes regarding automatic GPU lockup resetting / apport triggering * (DONE) Ogasawara says she can obtain a listing indicating the most common video hardware; this needs following up on * (DONE) Provide jbarnes with a listing of the hardware Canonical certifies against |
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| - select X.org server version for Karmic: * upstream release dates cannot be predicted (plan: http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2009-April/000774.html) * current Karmic plan: 1.7 this would bring libxi 2.0, inputproto 2.0, evdev 2.3(ish) - intel driver version: * 2.7.1 in karmic, planned to upload 2.7.99 next week * 2.9 will disable non-KMS support * beyond 2.9, no big changes planned * current Karmic target: 2.8, with possibility of 2.9 |
<ghexsel> - According to Phoronix (http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzI4OQ). the schedule slipped. Will it still make the cut? <bryce> - presumably yes; if not we'll ship whatever -rc version is available at the time, and backport fixes as appropriate. |
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| - nouveau driver needs testing, easy to install (packaged for jaunty) - nouveau needs kernel portion in drm linux branches, for KMS - GEM: graphics memory manager geared for integrated chipsets like intel and via - TTM: graphics memory manager, similar to GEM, but geared towards discrete graphics cards with VRAM (confirm!) - Intel 8xx support: * no upstream interest in support/bug fixing * Jesse says that for 810/815 you have to run the old -810 driver; with some hammering it should build * 830 and up are tested by upstream; recent kernel patch fixed a lot of 8xx issues * tutorials available? not really - https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa has latest versions for testing - https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates/ (more stable bits for jaunty, i.e. upstream bugfix releases) - when 2.6.31 comes up, kernel side will be in better shape than the user land drivers - intel-gpu-tools available in PPA, needs to be uploaded to karmic proper - when intel driver runs into a GPU lockup, it's possible to capture a batch buffer dump using: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-freeze-test (upstream says they are working on code that will automatically reset the GPU when it locks up. In an ideal world the user might not even notice the lockup) - Tagging intel and ATI bugs in LP: both with chipset and symptom tags There is a wiki page with all the tags listed. - We need a platform for testing (defined set of functionality that we want working on a defined set of cards). We can use this to measure the quality of the release. The list of certified hardware for example. Apple has limited/bounded set of hardware and MS has the Windows logo program. - Is there a way to get a list of the most common hardware out there? }}} |
Launchpad Entry: desktop-karmic-xorg
Created: 2009-05-06
Contributors: BryceHarrington
Packages affected: xorg
See also: X/Blueprints
Summary
This specification provides a roadmap of X.org changes for Karmic, as well as a compatibility requirements listing of versions of dependencies we will want our video drivers to support.
Roadmap
[Formatted for emailing]
Karmic Target Versions for Release
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kernel: 2.6.31
libdrm: 2.6.12
mesa: 7.6
x-server: 1.7 (Brings libxi 2.0, inputproto 2.0, evdev 2.3)
xorg: 7.5
(We are carrying rc versions of the above currently, but anticipate
these versions will be released in time for Karmic.)
UPDATE - As of Alpha-4, some components were unavailable. We are now targeting the following:
kernel: 2.6.31
libdrm: 2.6.12
mesa: 7.6
x-server: 1.6.3
xorg: 7.4
Karmic Important Dates
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June 19th xserver 1.6.99.901 + xorg 7.5 beta 1
July 15th xserver 1.7 + xorg 7.5 release
Sept 7th Ubuntu Deadline for driver version updates
Oct 1st Ubuntu Beta
Oct 29th Ubuntu Final Release
Driver-Specific Requirements
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-intel: All Intel chipsets >= i810
Version: 2.8 (potentially 2.9 if schedule permits)
AccelMethod: UXA
DRI: DRI2
Memory: GEM
KMS: "On" for all chipsets by default
Duallink DVI: Chipsets >= i830
TV-Out: Chipsets >= i830
DisplayPort: Best efforts (G40-series)
-ati: All Radeon chipsets
Version: Unspecified
AccelMethod: EXA
DRI: 3D on chipsets R5xx and older only
Best efforts for newer chipsets
Memory: Unspecified
KMS: "On" for chipsets R5xx and older only
Best efforts for newer chipsets
Duallink DVI: R400 and newer
TV-Out: R1xx-R3xx
DisplayPort: No
-fglrx: Radeon chipsets R600 and newer only
Version: 9.10
AccelMethod: Unspecified
DRI: Unspecified
Memory: Unspecified
KMS: No
Duallink DVI: R600 and newer
TV-Out: R600 and newer
DisplayPort: DCE 3.0 chipsets and newer
-nouveau: All Nvidia chipsets >= NV04
Version: Unspecified
AccelMethod: EXA
DRI: 2D only
Best efforts for 3D
Memory: Unspecified
KMS: "On" for NV40 and newer
Best efforts for older chipsets
Duallink DVI: Unspecified
TV-Out: Unspecified
DisplayPort: G98 only
-nvidia (legacy): Older Nvidia chipsets
Version: -96.x, -173.x
AccelMethod: Unspecified
DRI: Unspecified
Memory: Unspecified
KMS: No
Duallink DVI: Unspecified
TV-Out: Unspecified
DisplayPort: No
-nvidia (current): GeForce 6xxx and newer
Version: -185.x
AccelMethod: Unspecified
DRI: Unspecified
Memory: Unspecified
KMS: No
Duallink DVI: Unspecified
TV-Out: Yes
DisplayPort: Yes
Key Karmic Goals for X.org
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1. KMS / Flicker-Free Boot
Kernel mode-setting (KMS) is a major target objective for this release.
We may be updating to newer versions of mesa if needed for KMS support.
We anticipate that not all drivers will support KMS, so the kernel will
be determining whether to use KMS or not on a per-driver basis, and if
KMS is not in use, will boot similar to how it's been done up to now.
2. Fast Boot / Fast Resume
Improving boot and suspend/resume speed is another major goal for
Karmic. Our objective is to boot fast enough that no splash screen
is required. Therefore we will not be integrating plymouth into our
boot process. Where boot speeds cannot be sufficiently reduced we
will continue to use usplash.
We anticipate KMS will help in achieving this objective, and are
looking for additional ideas for improving X.org boot speed further.
Key design points for this objective:
* No plymouth at all.
* No usplash for a default boot.
* usplash will be started for fsck, and for entering a passphrase for
encrypted root partitions.
* X will be started as early as possible in the boot process and just
display a bg image with a throbber. Once enough of the system is
up, gdm starts and replaces the throbber.
3. Virtual Terminals
In Karmic, VT1 will be used for X, VT2 as a console login, and VT3
for kernel log messages.
More Information
----------------
Specific dates of Ubuntu Alpha releases are at:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule
Ubuntu Alpha release ISOs are available for testing at:
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/9.10/
Design / Rationale
-intel version 2.9 may be available in time for Karmic. There are no major features planned for that release; mostly it will be removing non-KMS code (not something we care about). However it may contain some worthwhile bug fixes, so may be worth consideration if it is released with sufficient time for integration; we'll plan on 2.8 for now and see how things go.
Implementation Tasks
- (DONE) Write roadmap
- (DONE) Send roadmap to video driver partners, Mobile team, and any other X.org requirements consumers
- (DONE) Pull intel-gpu-tools into Karmic/Universe
(DONE) Update directions at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-freeze-test (Probably move into wiki)
- (DONE) Follow up with jbarnes regarding automatic GPU lockup resetting / apport triggering
- (DONE) Ogasawara says she can obtain a listing indicating the most common video hardware; this needs following up on
- (DONE) Provide jbarnes with a listing of the hardware Canonical certifies against
Outstanding Issues
BoF agenda and discussion
<ghexsel> - According to Phoronix (http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzI4OQ). the schedule slipped. Will it still make the cut? <bryce> - presumably yes; if not we'll ship whatever -rc version is available at the time, and backport fixes as appropriate.
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