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| * http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/ubuntu-armel.html * http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/ubuntu-armel-natty-alpha-3.html |
* http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-armel.html * http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-armel-oneiric-alpha-1.html |
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| [14:59] <NCommander> #startmeeting [14:59] <MootBot> Meeting started at 08:59. The chair is NCommander. [14:59] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [14:59] * rsalveti waves [15:00] <ogra> foopl [15:00] <NCommander> [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2011/20110303 [15:00] <MootBot> LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2011/20110303 [15:00] <NCommander> who's here? [15:01] <NCommander> There are no standing action items [15:01] <NCommander> [topic] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/ubuntu-armel.html [15:01] <MootBot> New Topic: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/ubuntu-armel.html [15:01] <janimo> hellp [15:01] <NCommander> ptopic] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/ubuntu-armel-natty-alpha-3.html [15:02] <rsalveti> help or hello? :P [15:02] <ogra> lol [15:02] <janimo> hello for now [15:02] <janimo> it may beocme help later in the cycle ;) [15:02] * ogra was wondering exactly the same [15:02] <rsalveti> :-) [15:02] <GrueMaster> i'm not [15:03] <ogra> geez, the overall Wi status looks scary [15:03] <ogra> NCommander, the second link should be beta ;) [15:03] * NCommander grumbles [15:03] <GrueMaster> It will be next week. [15:04] <GrueMaster> This week is still Alpha 3. [15:04] <ogra> heh [15:04] <ogra> for some minutes [15:04] <NCommander> no beta page doesn't exist [15:04] <GrueMaster> And it's a good indicator of how we did. [15:04] <janimo> for some reason 5 of my WIs were eaten by the parser and I cannot figure out why [15:04] <ogra> http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/ubuntu-armel-ubuntu-11.04-beta.html [15:04] <MootBot> LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/ubuntu-armel-ubuntu-11.04-beta.html [15:05] <ogra> nah [15:05] <NCommander> I forgot to update teh WI tracker to postpone his WIs due to spec redesign. that's fixed now [15:05] <rsalveti> janimo: haha, true: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/u/jani-natty-alpha-3.html [15:05] <ogra> looks broken [15:05] <NCommander> anyway, can I move on? [15:06] <NCommander> [topic] Unity 2D Status [15:06] <MootBot> New Topic: Unity 2D Status [15:06] * ogra glares at http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/ [15:06] <ogra> janimo, so whats needed to get us the hedless image ? [15:06] <ogra> NCommander, no :P [15:07] <NCommander> ogra: I need to land janimo's branch [15:07] <GrueMaster> ogra: Can you save that for image status? [15:07] <ogra> (why do we have an 11.05) [15:07] <ogra> GrueMaster, still, there seems to be action needed to fix the WI tracker [15:07] <NCommander> ogra: probably for Linaro [15:07] <ogra> beta is broken completely [15:07] <NCommander> [action] ogra to fix WI tracker [15:07] <ogra> and there shouldnt be ubuntu-armel-11.05 [15:07] <MootBot> ACTION received: ogra to fix WI tracker [15:07] <GrueMaster> Beta hasn't started yet. [15:08] <ogra> doesnt matter for the tracker [15:08] <ogra> it just reports how the whiteboards are set [15:08] <ogra> date has no influence [15:08] <janimo> ogra, I don't know what else is needed, these build scripts are not well documented, let alone I am not working on the actual ones running the builds [15:08] <janimo> so I hope NCommander spots any irregularities [15:08] <ogra> action: everyone to check their WI status on the whiteboards that the right beta tag is set [15:09] <ogra> NCommander, ^^^ [15:09] <janimo> or we try and if there are errors we fix after A3 [15:09] <NCommander> I had gotten sidetracked by mono and then alpha 3 to land the headless branch [15:09] <ogra> i'll find out whats needed and we can do that offline [15:09] <janimo> NCommander, sure np [15:09] <NCommander> now can we get back on topic on Unity 2d Status?! [15:09] <ogra> NCommander, right, please do that with high prio now that you are done with mono (assuming you are) [15:10] <ogra> NCommander, if you would wait until getting an answer on the move request that would be easier [15:10] <NCommander> ogra: I'm not, and I don't have a local d-cd instance to test. You may be better off landing the code [15:10] <NCommander> ogra: I did wait, there wasn't a response either way. [15:10] <ogra> can everyone please move the remaining a3 items on theit blueprints [15:11] <ogra> *their [15:11] <janimo> can anyone see why this whiteboard is not parsed correctly? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-arm-n-handle-core-boot-files-update [15:11] <ogra> we have 11 open items there [15:11] <janimo> all those WIs are not showing up in the graphs [15:12] <ogra> lets do that off meeting, to me it looks fine [15:13] <ogra> NCommander, can you please add the above action [15:13] <NCommander> [topic] Unity 2D Status [15:13] <MootBot> New Topic: Unity 2D Status [15:13] <NCommander> [action] ogra + janimo to look at why WI don't appear on other-arm-n-handle-core-boot-files-update [15:13] <MootBot> ACTION received: ogra + janimo to look at why WI don't appear on other-arm-n-handle-core-boot-files-update [15:13] * ogra shakes head [15:13] <ogra> <ogra> action: everyone to check their WI status on the whiteboards that the right beta tag is set [15:13] <ogra> <ogra> NCommander, ^^ [15:13] <NCommander> grumble [15:13] <ogra> jani and i dont need an action for that [15:14] <NCommander> [action] everyone to check their WI status on the whiteboards that the right beta tag is set [15:14] <MootBot> ACTION received: everyone to check their WI status on the whiteboards that the right beta tag is set [15:14] <ogra> thanks [15:14] <ogra> move [15:14] <NCommander> ogra: I did [15:14] <ogra> premature again [15:14] <ogra> well [15:14] <ogra> it kind of works ... [15:14] <ogra> thats all status i have, many bugs open, upstream is working on them [15:14] <ogra> move [15:15] <NCommander> [topic] Kernel Status (cooloney, rsalveti) [15:15] <MootBot> New Topic: Kernel Status (cooloney, rsalveti) [15:15] <ogra> very bad from what i grokked from the mail discussion [15:15] <rsalveti> for omap 3 one the master-next will get merged with 38-rc7 release [15:15] <ogra> seems .38 exploded with the last rebase [15:15] <rsalveti> now for omap 4 things are still bad [15:15] <rsalveti> the current blocker issue is the mmc crash [15:15] <rsalveti> as reported by cooloney [15:16] <ogra> didnt he also talk about build issues ? [15:16] <rsalveti> so this should be sorted this week, and probably merged at our ti-omap4-dev then [15:16] <ogra> or are these solved [15:16] <rsalveti> ogra: we got patches for that already [15:16] <ogra> ah, good [15:16] <ogra> seems i missed a mail [15:16] <ogra> or two [15:17] <rsalveti> but at least with current tests, it seems that it's kind of working well [15:17] <ogra> plan is to move to .38 as soon as these are solved [15:17] <rsalveti> yup [15:17] <ogra> which means also trhat we'll lose .35 [15:17] <rsalveti> it'll be merged at ti-omap4-dev, then we'll request more testing [15:17] <rsalveti> once it's ok, we'll pull as the default kernel for omap4 [15:17] <ogra> i was wondering if it would make sense to have an upload to canonical-arm-dev PPA [15:17] <ogra> of the final .35 branch [15:18] <ogra> so we have a fallback if .38 isnt usable at all during our work [15:18] <rsalveti> we could create a public ppa for it, if needed [15:18] <rsalveti> build at canonical-arm and then copy to the public one [15:18] <ogra> i just thought to make sure we dont get blocked by it [15:18] <ogra> seems to be not very rebase-safe to me atm [15:18] <ogra> so it might explode again next rebase [15:19] <GrueMaster> Well, if we are testing it on the side before making it default, we should catch most issues. [15:19] <rsalveti> well, at least 38 is almost final already [15:19] <rsalveti> GrueMaster: sure [15:19] <ogra> right, mainline is [15:19] <ogra> but the patches still look shaky [15:19] <rsalveti> and will be for a while [15:19] <ogra> right [15:19] <rsalveti> we just need to test before pushing [15:19] <rsalveti> then we should be ok [15:19] <rsalveti> GrueMaster can be our go/no-go [15:20] <GrueMaster> yep [15:20] <ogra> i dont want to overload him though ;) [15:20] <ogra> he is busy enough [15:20] <rsalveti> not a lot to test [15:20] <ogra> k [15:20] <ogra> then lets drop the PPA idea [15:20] <rsalveti> I don't expect a kernel update more than once a week [15:20] <NCommander> can I move on? [15:20] <GrueMaster> ogra: What say I make the call of how busy I am? [15:20] <rsalveti> any other question? [15:20] <ogra> you typed yep when i was still typing :) [15:21] <NCommander> QA Status (GrueMaster) [15:21] <NCommander> bah [15:21] <NCommander> paste failure [15:21] <NCommander> can I move on? [15:21] <rsalveti> you're having serious problems with your paste [15:21] <ogra> jep [15:21] <NCommander> [topic] QA Status (GrueMaster) [15:21] <MootBot> New Topic: QA Status (GrueMaster) [15:21] <NCommander> rsalveti: I've been thold this is proper behavior [15:21] <rsalveti> hehe, then you're the issue [15:21] <ogra> fix your palms ? [15:22] <GrueMaster> Alpha 3 testing was brutal (again). Made it through at the last minute. [15:22] <ogra> or your fingers :) [15:22] <ogra> GrueMaster, we werent the last ;) [15:22] <ogra> kubuntu was respun this morning [15:22] <rsalveti> and most important, we made it :-) [15:22] <ogra> yeah [15:22] <GrueMaster> It won't past muster. [15:22] <ogra> awesome job !!! [15:22] <ogra> GrueMaster, NCommander thanks for making it possible [15:22] <GrueMaster> I also spot tested kubuntu last night. It has more serious problems. [15:23] <ogra> rsalveti, and thanls for the right suggestion at the right moment ;) [15:23] <ogra> GrueMaster, kubuntu x86/amd64 was respun [15:23] <rsalveti> ogra: haha :-) [15:23] <GrueMaster> Oh. [15:23] <ogra> not armel [15:24] <GrueMaster> Well, armel was also respun by NCommander at my request. [15:24] <ogra> oh, twice ? [15:24] <ogra> i only saw 03 and no 03.1 when i tested [15:24] <GrueMaster> Thought it may be also hung up by the same issue. Turns out it has additional critical failure issues. [15:24] <GrueMaster> Timing. [15:24] <ogra> (or did you talk about kubuntu armel now) [15:25] <GrueMaster> Yes. [15:25] <ogra> ah, confusing :) [15:25] <GrueMaster> We announced we were respinning in #u-release. [15:25] <ogra> yeah [15:25] <ogra> i thought you talked about netbook [15:26] <ogra> (ubuntu) [15:26] <GrueMaster> It would be far easier to understand what I was talking about if there were less interuptions. I haven't stopped talking about kubuntu. [15:27] <GrueMaster> At any rate, I have nothing constructive to add further. [15:27] <GrueMaster> NCommander: move on, please. [15:28] <NCommander> [topic] ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, janimo) [15:28] <MootBot> New Topic: ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, janimo) [15:28] <NCommander> nothing new to report expect livecd-rootfs got a lobotomy to get a3 images out [15:28] <janimo> getting better [15:28] <NCommander> mono work still pending a3 release [15:29] <NCommander> janimo: got anything else or can I move? [15:29] <rsalveti> it should appear more gl/gles related bugs, now that more packages get updated [15:29] <janimo> move [15:29] <NCommander> [topic] ARM Image Status (ogra, NCommander) [15:29] <rsalveti> for wrong usage or lack of proper detection [15:29] <MootBot> New Topic: ARM Image Status (ogra, NCommander) [15:29] <ogra> A3 released [15:29] <NCommander> We made A3. livecd-rootfs got a nasty hack due to webkit sucking [15:29] <ogra> nothing else to report for existing images [15:29] <ogra> NCommander, do you need any help with janis changes ? [15:30] <rsalveti> I'm building webkit with gcc-4.4 to see if it could be related with the toolchain [15:30] <NCommander> ogra: feel free to grab them and run with ARM Image Status (ogra, NCommander) [15:30] <NCommander> them [15:30] <NCommander> %$#W@!!~ [15:30] <rsalveti> but webkit in general is completely broken [15:30] <NCommander> what I need is to take Xorg apart [15:30] <rsalveti> and gcc can't help on it [15:30] <ogra> so its an internal webik error ? [15:30] <ogra> thats bad [15:30] <ogra> especially if we cant blame the toolchain [15:31] <rsalveti> yup, we'll see [15:31] <janimo> rsalveti, , I saw PPA builds of webkit failed [15:31] <NCommander> rsalveti: I recommend you prepare the approicate sacarifies to the debugging gods [15:31] <rsalveti> janimo: that's fine, armel is still building [15:31] <rsalveti> I forgot that the ppa also builds for other arches [15:31] <ogra> yeah, who cares about exotic arches like x86 anyway [15:31] <rsalveti> yup :-) [15:31] <GrueMaster> I do when the build failures start spamming me. [15:32] <rsalveti> sorry about that :-) [15:32] <NCommander> we should have some sorta nice porting team to assign bugs to when x86 breaks since hardware is so scare :-) [15:32] <ogra> procmail ftw ;) [15:32] <ogra> NCommander, good idea ! propose that to davidm [15:32] <ogra> ;) [15:32] <ogra> so he can bring it up to the managers [15:33] <NCommander> [action] NCommander to draft and formalize x86 porting team proposal [15:33] <MootBot> ACTION received: NCommander to draft and formalize x86 porting team proposal [15:33] * ogra has nothing else [15:33] <NCommander> */silly off* [15:33] <NCommander> [topic] AOB [15:33] <MootBot> New Topic: AOB [15:34] <ogra> i held a talk at UDD ... [15:34] <ogra> got some nice positive feedback and actually the hour was filled with questions (i only talked for 10min or so) [15:35] <ogra> seems there is good community interest in arm [15:35] <ogra> .. [15:35] <ogra> err UDW, sorry [15:35] <NCommander> ogra: watch your TLAs :-) [15:35] * janimo waits for Daniel to post the daily summary links and I'll check out the transcript [15:35] <ogra> heh [15:35] <rsalveti> yeah, saw that, quite nice we had so many people interested on it [15:36] <NCommander> I'm probably going to be out the rest of the morning and possibly early afternoon [15:36] <NCommander> I got a grand total of 45 minutes of sleep [15:36] <NCommander> >.<; [15:36] <ogra> yeah, get some lseep [15:36] <janimo> lslepp [15:36] <NCommander> plan on it [15:36] <janimo> as in long sleep [15:36] <ogra> you well earned a break ;) [15:36] <NCommander> anyway [15:36] <NCommander> Anyting else [15:36] <NCommander> else [15:36] <NCommander> closingin the meeting in 5 [15:36] <janimo> calendar is helpful, just got an email reminding me of this meeting [15:36] <ogra> nope [15:36] <NCommander> 4 [15:36] <NCommander> 3 [15:36] <NCommander> 2 [15:37] <NCommander> 1 [15:37] <ogra> janimo, fix your timezone ;) [15:37] <NCommander> @endmeeting [15:37] <NCommander> #endmeeting |
[16:00] <NCommander> #startmeeting [16:00] <MootBot> Meeting started at 10:00. The chair is NCommander. [16:00] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [16:00] <ogra_> moop [16:01] <NCommander> [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2011/20110519 [16:01] <MootBot> LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2011/20110519 [16:01] * NCommander pokes ogra_'s moop [16:01] <ogra_> ouch ! [16:01] <ogra_> dont you touch my moop ! [16:02] <NCommander> [topic] Standing Items [16:02] <MootBot> New Topic: Standing Items [16:02] <NCommander> [link] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-armel.html [16:02] <MootBot> LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-armel.html [16:02] <NCommander> [link] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-armel-oneiric-alpha-1.html [16:02] <MootBot> LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-armel-oneiric-alpha-1.html [16:02] <NCommander> None of my specs are showing up ... [16:02] * ogra_ isnt done yet with spec writing [16:03] <NCommander> Oh right, it has to be approved, doesn't it [16:03] <NCommander> bah [16:03] <ogra_> NCommander, lets go over them to see if everything is set right (accepted etcd) [16:03] <ogra_> after meeting [16:03] * davidm is happy bp are getting done [16:03] <ogra_> but its good to see the tracker work [16:04] <ogra_> doesnt look like as much hassle for me as last round [16:04] * NCommander likes our '2.0' blueprints for A1 :-) [16:04] <NCommander> Right [16:04] <NCommander> so moving on [16:05] <NCommander> if my web browser didn't force quit ... [16:05] <NCommander> [topic] Unity 2D Status [16:05] <MootBot> New Topic: Unity 2D Status [16:05] <ogra_> use an ac100, its more stable :P [16:05] <ogra_> i think we can drop that [16:05] <ogra_> desktop team takes over now [16:06] <ogra_> i talked to didrocks in budapest [16:06] <davidm> I think it's DX team and desktop team [16:06] <NCommander> cool [16:06] * NCommander brings dead to this standing item [16:06] <ogra_> well, i think upstream is still the same [16:06] <ogra_> not DX afaik [16:06] <NCommander> [topic] Kernel Status (cooloney, rsalveti) [16:06] <MootBot> New Topic: Kernel Status (cooloney, rsalveti) [16:06] <ogra_> heh [16:06] <ogra_> NCommander, ppisati [16:06] <rsalveti> :-) [16:07] <ogra_> and we should probably include the linaro platform guys that work on kernel bits in that [16:07] <ogra_> do you have any ? [16:07] <rsalveti> send an SRU for bug 770679 [16:07] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 770679 in u-boot-linaro (Ubuntu) "Missing proper support for Beagle XM rev B and C" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/770679 [16:07] <NCommander> rsalveti: won't that require an item respin of natty, no? [16:07] <rsalveti> still waiting for comments [16:07] <rsalveti> NCommander: in theory yes [16:08] <rsalveti> but we can just publish a new kernel file somewhere and update the wiki [16:08] <rsalveti> like we did with maverick [16:08] <ogra_> well, we can alsways provice replacement uInitrd and uImage [16:08] <rsalveti> yeah, that's what we did with maverick [16:08] <ogra_> right [16:08] <rsalveti> but no other update [16:08] <rsalveti> ti-omap4 kernel is kind of the same [16:09] <rsalveti> will be sending another SRU for the drm driver next week [16:09] <ogra_> do you have anyone in your team that should be included in the topic ping ? [16:09] <rsalveti> now that I got that sorted out with linaro kernel [16:09] <rsalveti> ogra_: that depends on what exactly we want to discuss [16:09] <ogra_> same for any other of the standing topics :) [16:09] <rsalveti> sure, we can solve this offline [16:10] <ogra_> yeah [16:10] <rsalveti> that's all for me [16:10] <ogra_> ppisati, everything fine in your world ? [16:11] <rsalveti> NCommander: put an action for you to include ppisati at this topic :-) [16:11] <NCommander> rsalveti: I already edited the wiki [16:11] <ogra_> well, seems he isnt around ... neither is cooloney [16:11] <ogra_> so move :) [16:12] <NCommander> [topic] ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, janimo) [16:12] <MootBot> New Topic: ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, janimo) [16:12] <ogra_> its horrid [16:12] <NCommander> fpc was bootstrapped on armel but beside that not much to add as the buildds drain [16:12] <ogra_> yeah, will still need a while to lighten up [16:12] * NCommander isn't going to touch it until the build queue is close to empty [16:13] <ogra_> i occasionally go over them and give back what looks like being worth it [16:13] <ppisati> ogra_: let me read... [16:14] * ogra_ wonders where jani is [16:14] <ogra_> still jetlagged from the 100km train ride probably :) [16:14] <GrueMaster> heh [16:14] <NCommander> ogra_: :-P [16:14] <NCommander> can I move on? [16:15] <ogra_> yeah [16:15] <NCommander> [topic] ARM Image Status (ogra, NCommander) [16:15] <MootBot> New Topic: ARM Image Status (ogra, NCommander) [16:15] <ogra_> well ... [16:15] <ogra_> waiting for live-build to be implemented for x86 [16:15] <ppisati> ah k :) [16:15] <ogra_> i guess then we have a very small window to make it work for A1 [16:16] <ogra_> the risk is high that we wont make A1 though [16:16] <GrueMaster> Always is. [16:16] <NCommander> Yeah [16:16] <ogra_> in other news i worked the week on preparing everything for the ac100 image [16:16] <NCommander> right now all CD image work is depwait A1, though cjwatson said if we implement stuff in livecd-rootfs, then he'll migrate it to livehelper [16:16] <ogra_> the bits from https://launchpad.net/~ac100/+archive/ppa will land in oneiric next week [16:17] <ogra_> so that we can start rolling images [16:17] <ogra_> look, its a jani :) [16:17] * NCommander throws a pokeball at wild janimo [16:17] <janimo> sorry, forgot what time it was [16:17] <NCommander> :-P [16:17] <ogra_> well, thats all about images atm ... toboin ? [16:18] <ogra_> anything to say about nook ? [16:18] <ogra_> GrueMaster, ^^ [16:18] <GrueMaster> Not yet. Main focus has been on usbboot for panda. [16:18] <ogra_> yeah, thought so [16:18] <ogra_> though you had lots of converation going on about nook images in the channel :) [16:18] <GrueMaster> Although one user has gotten some work towards making it boot natty. [16:18] <ogra_> *conversation [16:19] <NCommander> can I move on? [16:19] <ogra_> go [16:19] <NCommander> [topic] QA Status (GrueMaster) [16:19] <MootBot> New Topic: QA Status (GrueMaster) [16:20] <GrueMaster> Hey, that's me! [16:20] <ogra_> wohoo ! [16:20] <GrueMaster> My focus this week has been gitting panda to boot via usb blob from a host system. [16:20] <ogra_> for automated image testing ;) [16:21] <janimo> GrueMaster, this means no SD card needed at all? [16:21] <ogra_> yeah [16:21] <GrueMaster> This will help a lot for the new buildd deployment, and also help to build an image automation framework. [16:21] <janimo> sweet [16:21] <GrueMaster> No SD card was harmed in the making of thisproduction. [16:21] <ogra_> lol [16:21] <janimo> some SD cards deserve to be harmed though [16:21] <ogra_> hehe [16:22] <GrueMaster> Currently I am hung on getting the usb & network ports initialized. I have a working kernel & initrd. [16:22] <GrueMaster> Reviewing x-loader & u-boot code tosee what they do to enable them. [16:22] <ogra_> i'll get you the initrd bits until monday [16:23] <NCommander> GrueMaster: seems like a lot of it is hte board just isn't happy coming up OTG. could be an issue of whats being iniialized vs what isn't? [16:23] <GrueMaster> I'm using the headless image as a test base. I have the rootfs on a USB drive andam pushing down the kernel with a modified initrd. [16:23] <GrueMaster> Yes. [16:24] <GrueMaster> Not sure if it is the otg port getting in the way,but it shouldn't as they are completely separate circuits. [16:24] <ogra_> NCommander, well, its the decision of putting half the board init code into x-loader and u-boot [16:24] <NCommander> well yes [16:24] <ogra_> if it would live in the kernel as it should, there wouldnt be any probs [16:24] <GrueMaster> btw: u-boot doesn't appear to support usb. [16:24] <ogra_> GrueMaster, rsalveti is working on it [16:25] <GrueMaster> yes, I know. [16:25] <rsalveti> GrueMaster: u-boot supports usb now ;-) [16:25] <ogra_> and martyn told me yesterday that the PXE support patch landed upstream [16:25] <rsalveti> and TFTP [16:25] <GrueMaster> Hopefully we can work together today and get a solution. [16:25] <rsalveti> on my branch [16:25] <GrueMaster> Nice. [16:25] <rsalveti> but I still prefer to jump into the kernel directly [16:25] <ogra_> \o/ [16:25] <ogra_> ++ [16:26] <ogra_> but at least we have something even if that doesnt work [16:26] <rsalveti> anyway, just working with GrueMaster to see what we can get [16:26] <rsalveti> yup :-) [16:26] <GrueMaster> The aboot->kernel method is much cleaner, but what ever it takes to get forward progress is semi-acceptable. [16:26] <ogra_> the good thing is that we could even use it in the images and boot *way* faster [16:26] <rsalveti> let's spend some more time trying to get this to work [16:27] <ogra_> we should inspect that [16:27] <GrueMaster> once I get this working (critical priority), I'll focus on blueprint refinement and nook color. [16:27] <rsalveti> yeah, can add that at my u-boot tftp bp [16:27] <rsalveti> I'll be changing it to "alternatives to boot ubuntu images" [16:27] <rsalveti> something like that [16:27] <rsalveti> omap4boot [16:27] <ogra_> cool ! [16:27] <rsalveti> u-boot with TFTP and PXE [16:27] <rsalveti> and u-boot with fastboot [16:28] <rsalveti> that should cover most of the cases, if not all [16:28] <GrueMaster> That's all from me. Questions? [16:28] <ogra_> not here [16:29] <NCommander> [topic] Specification Status [16:29] <MootBot> New Topic: Specification Status [16:29] <NCommander> probably a good idea to go over this [16:30] <NCommander> I have two spcs drafted, one reviewed, one I mostly completed then handed off, and one that still needs a writeup [16:30] * ogra_ has nothing to report yet ... mine will be ready by monday [16:31] <ogra_> janimo, GrueMaster ? [16:31] <janimo> I have work items more or less written up on my specs [16:31] <janimo> but no other work. Drafting means filling up the wiki template? [16:31] <ogra_> (and anyone else having specs on the team tracker :) ) [16:31] <ogra_> janimo, yeah [16:31] <GrueMaster> I think NCommander has been plastering me with work items. I have been toofocused to check. [16:31] <janimo> team tracker == burndown charts? [16:31] <ogra_> you dont need all topics from the tamplate, only what makes sense in your context [16:32] <ogra_> yeah team tracker == burndown [16:34] <NCommander> [topic] ABO [16:34] <MootBot> New Topic: ABO [16:34] * NCommander has nothing [16:34] <GrueMaster> ABO??? [16:34] <ogra_> ABO ? [16:34] <ogra_> OBA ? [16:34] <NCommander> [topic] AOB [16:34] <MootBot> New Topic: AOB [16:34] <ogra_> BOA ? [16:34] <GrueMaster> BOA? [16:34] * NCommander beats ogra_ [16:34] <ogra_> BAOBAB [16:34] <GrueMaster> BAO? [16:34] <ogra_> BLAH :) [16:34] * ogra_ doesnt have anything for this topic [16:34] <NCommander> I'm guessing we don't [16:35] <NCommander> closiging the meeting in 3 [16:35] <NCommander> 2 [16:35] <NCommander> 1 [16:35] <NCommander> #endmeeting [16:35] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 10:35. |
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April21th, 2011, 15:00 UTC in #ubuntu-meeting.
Agenda
Meeting Links
- Link to previous meeting
- Link to next meeting
Action Items from last meeting
- None
Standing Items
http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-armel.html
http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-armel-oneiric-alpha-1.html
- Unity 2D Status
- Kernel Status (cooloney, rsalveti, ppisati)
ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, janimo)
ARM Image Status (ogra, NCommander)
QA Status (GrueMaster)
- Any Other Business
Meeting Outcome
[16:00] <NCommander> #startmeeting [16:00] <MootBot> Meeting started at 10:00. The chair is NCommander. [16:00] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [16:00] <ogra_> moop [16:01] <NCommander> [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2011/20110519 [16:01] <MootBot> LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2011/20110519 [16:01] * NCommander pokes ogra_'s moop [16:01] <ogra_> ouch ! [16:01] <ogra_> dont you touch my moop ! [16:02] <NCommander> [topic] Standing Items [16:02] <MootBot> New Topic: Standing Items [16:02] <NCommander> [link] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-armel.html [16:02] <MootBot> LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-armel.html [16:02] <NCommander> [link] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-armel-oneiric-alpha-1.html [16:02] <MootBot> LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-armel-oneiric-alpha-1.html [16:02] <NCommander> None of my specs are showing up ... [16:02] * ogra_ isnt done yet with spec writing [16:03] <NCommander> Oh right, it has to be approved, doesn't it [16:03] <NCommander> bah [16:03] <ogra_> NCommander, lets go over them to see if everything is set right (accepted etcd) [16:03] <ogra_> after meeting [16:03] * davidm is happy bp are getting done [16:03] <ogra_> but its good to see the tracker work [16:04] <ogra_> doesnt look like as much hassle for me as last round [16:04] * NCommander likes our '2.0' blueprints for A1 :-) [16:04] <NCommander> Right [16:04] <NCommander> so moving on [16:05] <NCommander> if my web browser didn't force quit ... [16:05] <NCommander> [topic] Unity 2D Status [16:05] <MootBot> New Topic: Unity 2D Status [16:05] <ogra_> use an ac100, its more stable :P [16:05] <ogra_> i think we can drop that [16:05] <ogra_> desktop team takes over now [16:06] <ogra_> i talked to didrocks in budapest [16:06] <davidm> I think it's DX team and desktop team [16:06] <NCommander> cool [16:06] * NCommander brings dead to this standing item [16:06] <ogra_> well, i think upstream is still the same [16:06] <ogra_> not DX afaik [16:06] <NCommander> [topic] Kernel Status (cooloney, rsalveti) [16:06] <MootBot> New Topic: Kernel Status (cooloney, rsalveti) [16:06] <ogra_> heh [16:06] <ogra_> NCommander, ppisati [16:06] <rsalveti> :-) [16:07] <ogra_> and we should probably include the linaro platform guys that work on kernel bits in that [16:07] <ogra_> do you have any ? [16:07] <rsalveti> send an SRU for bug 770679 [16:07] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 770679 in u-boot-linaro (Ubuntu) "Missing proper support for Beagle XM rev B and C" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/770679 [16:07] <NCommander> rsalveti: won't that require an item respin of natty, no? [16:07] <rsalveti> still waiting for comments [16:07] <rsalveti> NCommander: in theory yes [16:08] <rsalveti> but we can just publish a new kernel file somewhere and update the wiki [16:08] <rsalveti> like we did with maverick [16:08] <ogra_> well, we can alsways provice replacement uInitrd and uImage [16:08] <rsalveti> yeah, that's what we did with maverick [16:08] <ogra_> right [16:08] <rsalveti> but no other update [16:08] <rsalveti> ti-omap4 kernel is kind of the same [16:09] <rsalveti> will be sending another SRU for the drm driver next week [16:09] <ogra_> do you have anyone in your team that should be included in the topic ping ? [16:09] <rsalveti> now that I got that sorted out with linaro kernel [16:09] <rsalveti> ogra_: that depends on what exactly we want to discuss [16:09] <ogra_> same for any other of the standing topics :) [16:09] <rsalveti> sure, we can solve this offline [16:10] <ogra_> yeah [16:10] <rsalveti> that's all for me [16:10] <ogra_> ppisati, everything fine in your world ? [16:11] <rsalveti> NCommander: put an action for you to include ppisati at this topic :-) [16:11] <NCommander> rsalveti: I already edited the wiki [16:11] <ogra_> well, seems he isnt around ... neither is cooloney [16:11] <ogra_> so move :) [16:12] <NCommander> [topic] ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, janimo) [16:12] <MootBot> New Topic: ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, janimo) [16:12] <ogra_> its horrid [16:12] <NCommander> fpc was bootstrapped on armel but beside that not much to add as the buildds drain [16:12] <ogra_> yeah, will still need a while to lighten up [16:12] * NCommander isn't going to touch it until the build queue is close to empty [16:13] <ogra_> i occasionally go over them and give back what looks like being worth it [16:13] <ppisati> ogra_: let me read... [16:14] * ogra_ wonders where jani is [16:14] <ogra_> still jetlagged from the 100km train ride probably :) [16:14] <GrueMaster> heh [16:14] <NCommander> ogra_: :-P [16:14] <NCommander> can I move on? [16:15] <ogra_> yeah [16:15] <NCommander> [topic] ARM Image Status (ogra, NCommander) [16:15] <MootBot> New Topic: ARM Image Status (ogra, NCommander) [16:15] <ogra_> well ... [16:15] <ogra_> waiting for live-build to be implemented for x86 [16:15] <ppisati> ah k :) [16:15] <ogra_> i guess then we have a very small window to make it work for A1 [16:16] <ogra_> the risk is high that we wont make A1 though [16:16] <GrueMaster> Always is. [16:16] <NCommander> Yeah [16:16] <ogra_> in other news i worked the week on preparing everything for the ac100 image [16:16] <NCommander> right now all CD image work is depwait A1, though cjwatson said if we implement stuff in livecd-rootfs, then he'll migrate it to livehelper [16:16] <ogra_> the bits from https://launchpad.net/~ac100/+archive/ppa will land in oneiric next week [16:17] <ogra_> so that we can start rolling images [16:17] <ogra_> look, its a jani :) [16:17] * NCommander throws a pokeball at wild janimo [16:17] <janimo> sorry, forgot what time it was [16:17] <NCommander> :-P [16:17] <ogra_> well, thats all about images atm ... toboin ? [16:18] <ogra_> anything to say about nook ? [16:18] <ogra_> GrueMaster, ^^ [16:18] <GrueMaster> Not yet. Main focus has been on usbboot for panda. [16:18] <ogra_> yeah, thought so [16:18] <ogra_> though you had lots of converation going on about nook images in the channel :) [16:18] <GrueMaster> Although one user has gotten some work towards making it boot natty. [16:18] <ogra_> *conversation [16:19] <NCommander> can I move on? [16:19] <ogra_> go [16:19] <NCommander> [topic] QA Status (GrueMaster) [16:19] <MootBot> New Topic: QA Status (GrueMaster) [16:20] <GrueMaster> Hey, that's me! [16:20] <ogra_> wohoo ! [16:20] <GrueMaster> My focus this week has been gitting panda to boot via usb blob from a host system. [16:20] <ogra_> for automated image testing ;) [16:21] <janimo> GrueMaster, this means no SD card needed at all? [16:21] <ogra_> yeah [16:21] <GrueMaster> This will help a lot for the new buildd deployment, and also help to build an image automation framework. [16:21] <janimo> sweet [16:21] <GrueMaster> No SD card was harmed in the making of thisproduction. [16:21] <ogra_> lol [16:21] <janimo> some SD cards deserve to be harmed though [16:21] <ogra_> hehe [16:22] <GrueMaster> Currently I am hung on getting the usb & network ports initialized. I have a working kernel & initrd. [16:22] <GrueMaster> Reviewing x-loader & u-boot code tosee what they do to enable them. [16:22] <ogra_> i'll get you the initrd bits until monday [16:23] <NCommander> GrueMaster: seems like a lot of it is hte board just isn't happy coming up OTG. could be an issue of whats being iniialized vs what isn't? [16:23] <GrueMaster> I'm using the headless image as a test base. I have the rootfs on a USB drive andam pushing down the kernel with a modified initrd. [16:23] <GrueMaster> Yes. [16:24] <GrueMaster> Not sure if it is the otg port getting in the way,but it shouldn't as they are completely separate circuits. [16:24] <ogra_> NCommander, well, its the decision of putting half the board init code into x-loader and u-boot [16:24] <NCommander> well yes [16:24] <ogra_> if it would live in the kernel as it should, there wouldnt be any probs [16:24] <GrueMaster> btw: u-boot doesn't appear to support usb. [16:24] <ogra_> GrueMaster, rsalveti is working on it [16:25] <GrueMaster> yes, I know. [16:25] <rsalveti> GrueMaster: u-boot supports usb now ;-) [16:25] <ogra_> and martyn told me yesterday that the PXE support patch landed upstream [16:25] <rsalveti> and TFTP [16:25] <GrueMaster> Hopefully we can work together today and get a solution. [16:25] <rsalveti> on my branch [16:25] <GrueMaster> Nice. [16:25] <rsalveti> but I still prefer to jump into the kernel directly [16:25] <ogra_> \o/ [16:25] <ogra_> ++ [16:26] <ogra_> but at least we have something even if that doesnt work [16:26] <rsalveti> anyway, just working with GrueMaster to see what we can get [16:26] <rsalveti> yup :-) [16:26] <GrueMaster> The aboot->kernel method is much cleaner, but what ever it takes to get forward progress is semi-acceptable. [16:26] <ogra_> the good thing is that we could even use it in the images and boot *way* faster [16:26] <rsalveti> let's spend some more time trying to get this to work [16:27] <ogra_> we should inspect that [16:27] <GrueMaster> once I get this working (critical priority), I'll focus on blueprint refinement and nook color. [16:27] <rsalveti> yeah, can add that at my u-boot tftp bp [16:27] <rsalveti> I'll be changing it to "alternatives to boot ubuntu images" [16:27] <rsalveti> something like that [16:27] <rsalveti> omap4boot [16:27] <ogra_> cool ! [16:27] <rsalveti> u-boot with TFTP and PXE [16:27] <rsalveti> and u-boot with fastboot [16:28] <rsalveti> that should cover most of the cases, if not all [16:28] <GrueMaster> That's all from me. Questions? [16:28] <ogra_> not here [16:29] <NCommander> [topic] Specification Status [16:29] <MootBot> New Topic: Specification Status [16:29] <NCommander> probably a good idea to go over this [16:30] <NCommander> I have two spcs drafted, one reviewed, one I mostly completed then handed off, and one that still needs a writeup [16:30] * ogra_ has nothing to report yet ... mine will be ready by monday [16:31] <ogra_> janimo, GrueMaster ? [16:31] <janimo> I have work items more or less written up on my specs [16:31] <janimo> but no other work. Drafting means filling up the wiki template? [16:31] <ogra_> (and anyone else having specs on the team tracker :) ) [16:31] <ogra_> janimo, yeah [16:31] <GrueMaster> I think NCommander has been plastering me with work items. I have been toofocused to check. [16:31] <janimo> team tracker == burndown charts? [16:31] <ogra_> you dont need all topics from the tamplate, only what makes sense in your context [16:32] <ogra_> yeah team tracker == burndown [16:34] <NCommander> [topic] ABO [16:34] <MootBot> New Topic: ABO [16:34] * NCommander has nothing [16:34] <GrueMaster> ABO??? [16:34] <ogra_> ABO ? [16:34] <ogra_> OBA ? [16:34] <NCommander> [topic] AOB [16:34] <MootBot> New Topic: AOB [16:34] <ogra_> BOA ? [16:34] <GrueMaster> BOA? [16:34] * NCommander beats ogra_ [16:34] <ogra_> BAOBAB [16:34] <GrueMaster> BAO? [16:34] <ogra_> BLAH :) [16:34] * ogra_ doesnt have anything for this topic [16:34] <NCommander> I'm guessing we don't [16:35] <NCommander> closiging the meeting in 3 [16:35] <NCommander> 2 [16:35] <NCommander> 1 [16:35] <NCommander> #endmeeting [16:35] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 10:35.
Action Items
- None
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