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June 7th, 2011, 15:00 UTC in #ubuntu-meeting.
Agenda
Meeting Links
- Link to previous meeting
- Link to next meeting
Action Items from last meeting
Standing Items
http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-armel.html
http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-armel-oneiric-alpha-2.html
- ARM Server Status (NCommander, Daviey)
- Kernel Status (cooloney, ppisati)
ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, janimo)
ARM Image Status (ogra, NCommander)
QA Status (GrueMaster)
- Any Other Business
Meeting Outcome
[15:00] <ogra_> #startmeeting [15:00] <MootBot> Meeting started at 10:00. The chair is ogra_. [15:00] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [15:00] <ogra_> agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2011/20110707 [15:00] <ogra_> is everyone here ? [15:00] * ogra_ pokes the arm team [15:01] <GrueMaster> zzzz [15:01] <ogra_> infinity, around ? [15:01] <ppisati> o/ [15:01] * ogra_ sees janimo and pokes to see if he's alive [15:02] <janimo> o hai [15:02] <ogra_> ah, good [15:02] <ogra_> so only infinity is missing [15:02] <ogra_> likely asleep [15:02] <ogra_> lets get started then [15:02] <ogra_> [topic] standing items [15:02] <MootBot> New Topic: standing items [15:02] <ogra_> http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-armel.html [15:03] <MootBot> LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-armel.html [15:03] <ogra_> http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-armel-oneiric-alpha-2.html [15:03] <MootBot> LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-armel-oneiric-alpha-2.html [15:03] <ogra_> i moved most items to A3 that were not DONE [15:04] <ogra_> if you have any items that actually are DONE and just miss the paperwork, please correct :) [15:04] <infinity> o/ [15:04] <ogra_> infinity needs to move his remaining three items too :) [15:04] <GrueMaster> I can move the usbboot wi to A3. Won't get more done until next week. [15:05] <ogra_> rsalveti, are you here ? seems there is an A2 item on the workitem tracker for you [15:05] <GrueMaster> netinstall testcase documentation will be added today or tomorrow. [15:05] <rsalveti> ogra_: yup, for kernel I believe, let me check [15:05] <ogra_> can you move, drop, close it (whatever is appropriate) [15:06] <rsalveti> sure, will move it for now [15:06] * ogra_ notes doko and lag also have items on the arm tracker [15:06] <rsalveti> yep [15:06] <ogra_> anyway, lets see that we have that cleaned up by tomorrow [15:06] <lag> ogra_: Link [15:06] <ogra_> moving on [15:07] <ogra_> lag, above :) [15:07] <ogra_> the alpha-2 tracker [15:07] <ogra_> [topic] arm server status (NCommander, Daviey ) [15:07] <MootBot> New Topic: arm server status (NCommander, Daviey ) [15:07] <ogra_> hmm, i guess both are on vacation [15:08] <ogra_> we have server images thanks to tireless testing work from GrueMaster, a d-i upload from infinity to fix netboot and apw for a linux-omap4 upload ! [15:08] <ogra_> \o/ [15:08] <ogra_> that was awesome (cross)team work ! [15:09] <ogra_> sadly it didnt fix desktop or omap3 [15:09] <ogra_> anything else for server to add ? [15:09] <infinity> Nope. [15:09] <ppisati> ogra_: did we miss the usb fix patch for omap3? [15:09] <ogra_> ppisati, nope, but it segfaults on boot [15:10] <ppisati> ogra_: DOH! [15:10] <ogra_> patch seems to be in [15:10] <GrueMaster> ppisati: Not sure. It has other more serious issues. [15:10] <ppisati> GrueMaster: ah, you mean the oneiric kernel? ok [15:10] <ogra_> [topic] kernel status ppisati, cooloney) [15:10] <MootBot> New Topic: kernel status ppisati, cooloney) [15:10] <ppisati> Kernel development: usual CVE fixes across different branches. [15:10] <ppisati> Oneiric/ti-omap4: we reached an agreement with agreen/linaro to get the TI BSP on top of a vanilla kernel, as a result a new oneiric/master-next-based kernel is in the work - see git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ppisati/ubuntu-oneiric.git ti-omap4-next. Still a WIP, kernel panics on boot ATM, do not use. [15:10] <GrueMaster> ppisati: See bug 806113 [15:10] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 806113 in linux (Ubuntu) "Series of segfaults early in the kernel boot process on omap." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/806113 [15:10] <ogra_> ppisati, yes, oneiric omap [15:10] <ppisati> ok, i'll assign it to me [15:10] <ogra_> (not omap4) [15:11] <ppisati> for tegra: ask to orga&c :) [15:11] <ogra_> heh [15:11] <ogra_> well, i plan to move to .38 soon [15:11] <ogra_> with the a100 package [15:11] <ogra_> once i got that it will also go to oneiric [15:11] <ppisati> ogra_: btw, i tested the ac100, and it seems the wireless tends to loose pkts [15:11] <ppisati> did you notice it too? [15:12] <ogra_> some people do [15:12] <ogra_> seems hw specific [15:12] <ppisati> k [15:12] <ogra_> i have one device with crappy wlan and one where it is rock solid [15:12] <ogra_> same model [15:12] <ogra_> same parts [15:12] <ppisati> same revision? 10z etcetc [15:12] <ogra_> yep [15:12] <ppisati> crap [15:12] <ogra_> 10V [15:12] <ogra_> anything else for kernel ? [15:13] <ppisati> nope from me [15:13] <ogra_> . [15:13] <ogra_> .. [15:13] <ogra_> ... [15:13] <ogra_> moving on then [15:13] <GrueMaster> ppisati: Can you look at bug 779410 for possible race condition in the kernel? [15:13] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 779410 in flash-kernel (Ubuntu) "package initramfs-tools 0.98.8ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/779410 [15:13] <ogra_> [topic] arm porting/ ftbfs status (NCommander, janimo) [15:13] <MootBot> New Topic: arm porting/ ftbfs status (NCommander, janimo) [15:13] <ogra_> GrueMaster, i doubt it is the kernel [15:14] * ogra_ got pinged today that json-glib has a fix in debian [15:14] <ogra_> thats holding up a lot other stuff, we need to get it synced [15:14] <infinity> Can do. [15:15] <ogra_> not sure how important the other stuff on the ftbfs list is [15:15] <ogra_> (who uses emacs23 anyway) [15:15] <infinity> Oh, it was synched 10 minutes ago. :) [15:15] <ogra_> apaort from that http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/ftbfs/ looks pretty good for that state of the cycle [15:15] * janimo is curious what the fix was, so goes take a look [15:16] <ogra_> universe could need some love though [15:16] <GrueMaster> There is no love ein the universe? [15:17] <ogra_> i wonder how we could get the community more active ... PPAs would be good :P [15:17] <ogra_> GrueMaster, there is, but apparently not in the places i look at :/ [15:17] <persia> No, not PPAs: that just gets more stuff fixed *somewhere* that isn't useful. [15:18] <ogra_> for testbuilds that helps a lot [15:18] <persia> That's true, although it's sadly not used that way usually (from what I see) [15:18] <ogra_> its a lot less effort to just enable a PPA than to set up a local virtualization env or some weird cross env [15:19] <ogra_> well, thats a matter of communication i guess [15:19] <ogra_> anyway ... [15:19] <ogra_> anything else for ftbfs ? [15:19] <ogra_> . [15:19] <ogra_> .. [15:19] <ogra_> ... [15:19] <ogra_> moving on then :) [15:19] <ogra_> [topic] arm image status (NCommander, ogra) [15:19] <MootBot> New Topic: arm image status (NCommander, ogra) [15:20] <ogra_> well, desktop seems badly broken [15:20] <infinity> Just a tad. [15:20] <ogra_> we get a non resize friendly filesystem since the switch to live-builder ... and jasper additionally has bugs [15:20] <GrueMaster> I plan on building a desktop image from a server install today so that I can at least test the other bits. [15:20] <ogra_> i'll look into jasper asap [15:21] <GrueMaster> I'm not convinced that jasper has a big issue. [15:21] <GrueMaster> Since server works on the same SD card. [15:21] <ogra_> must not be big [15:21] <ogra_> but apparently it has issues [15:21] <ogra_> how long does the resize on desktop take ? [15:22] <ogra_> server took 15min for me [15:22] <ogra_> (class 4 card though) [15:22] <GrueMaster> desktop took 30 minutes. [15:22] <GrueMaster> I think [15:22] <ogra_> phew [15:22] <GrueMaster> (I have multiple systems and don't watch that closely). [15:23] <ogra_> well, high prio to fix that :) [15:23] <ogra_> anything else about images ? [15:23] <ogra_> . [15:23] <ogra_> .. [15:23] <ogra_> ... [15:23] <ogra_> moving on [15:23] <GrueMaster> I'm thinking there is a regression in the kernel. I'll test with a maverick kernel later today or tomorrow. [15:23] <janimo> GrueMaster, happens on all SD cards tried? [15:24] <ogra_> (or not :) ) [15:24] <janimo> I wonder if any of my partitioning changes could affect resize [15:24] <GrueMaster> I get mixed results. [15:24] <ogra_> janimo, unlikely [15:24] <janimo> except in the way intended of course [15:24] <GrueMaster> Larger cards are more troublesome. [15:24] <ogra_> janimo, it could possibly affect the repartitioning [15:24] <ogra_> but the slowness is caused at filesystem creation [15:25] <ogra_> the inode size is to small [15:25] <ogra_> so resizing has to move way more then necessary [15:26] <ogra_> we used to use 8k for that in livecd-rootfs [15:26] <ogra_> anyway, we'll fix it :) [15:26] <ogra_> moving on for real now [15:27] <ogra_> [topic] Qa? (GrueMaster) [15:27] <MootBot> New Topic: Qa? (GrueMaster) [15:27] <GrueMaster> Testing this release has been very problematic (as noted earlier). [15:27] <ogra_> yeah [15:28] <ogra_> the date of the sprint week wasnt helping with that either [15:28] <GrueMaster> I'm running into issues getting benchmarks going on btrfs. Seems natty image doesn't care for conversion. [15:28] <ogra_> well, just format an SD and copy a configured FS over [15:28] <GrueMaster> system fails to mount rootfs using that method. [15:29] <ogra_> hmm, btrfs-tools installed ? [15:29] <GrueMaster> I have tried several different things (including nuke & pave). [15:29] <ogra_> it puts some bits into initrd [15:29] <GrueMaster> yes [15:29] <ogra_> weird [15:29] <ogra_> then it should work [15:29] <GrueMaster> It is failing in initrd [15:30] <GrueMaster> At any rate, it was lower priority this week vs release testing. [15:30] <ogra_> yeah, file a bug and one of us should look into it [15:30] <GrueMaster> netboot install works for the most part. Some tweeking needed for the sd boot image size (10M is way too small). [15:31] <ogra_> ac100 lives with 8M :P [15:31] <GrueMaster> Easily worked around though, and the rest of the install works fine. [15:31] <ogra_> our initrds are way to large nowadays imho [15:31] <GrueMaster> ac100 doesn't have x-loader & u-boot in the boot partition. [15:31] <ogra_> but hey, who wouldnt want the intel drm drivers :) [15:31] <GrueMaster> Need to be ~30M I would think. [15:31] <ogra_> or nouveau ... [15:32] <persia> Those need to be there with the current model. [15:32] <GrueMaster> They have nothing to do with boot partition size. [15:32] <persia> The way that libdrm works, it needs to have *all* implementations available. === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-lunch [15:32] <ogra_> MLO and u-boot are 250k together [15:33] <GrueMaster> At any rate, I tested both SD & usbboot methods for netinstall on to sata USB drives. [15:33] <GrueMaster> ogra_: The problem is the filesystem runs out of space for whatever reason at 10M. [15:33] <ogra_> yeah [15:33] <GrueMaster> So make it bigger. [15:33] <ogra_> sure [15:34] <ogra_> i'm just ranting ... :) [15:34] <GrueMaster> Server install works cleanly, which iis odd given the issues with desktop. [15:34] <ogra_> having 5M initrds is to big too :) [15:35] <ogra_> yeah, jasper should do exactly the same on both [15:35] <GrueMaster> In between testing, I have been struggling to get jenkins running. I am able to get it to remotely log into the pandas and start a slave instance. Now to get it to do something usefull. [15:35] <ogra_> modulo the PPA stuff [15:36] <GrueMaster> Not much else to report here. [15:36] <ogra_> awesome progress ! [15:36] <ogra_> anything else ? [15:36] <ogra_> . [15:36] <ogra_> .. [15:36] <ogra_> ... [15:36] <ogra_> moving on [15:36] <ogra_> [topic] any other business ... [15:36] <MootBot> New Topic: any other business ... [15:37] <ogra_> anything ... anyone ... ? [15:37] <ogra_> doesnt look like [15:37] <ogra_> going once [15:38] <ogra_> going twice [15:38] <ogra_> ending here ... [15:38] <ogra_> #ednmeeting [15:38] <ogra_> bah [15:38] <ogra_> #endmeeting [15:38] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 10:38.
Action Items
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