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   3 [19:01] <nhandler> bodhi_zazen: Just do a .meeting when you are ready
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   5 [19:01] <Rocket2DMn> wow he's only 1 min late, lol
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   7 [19:01] <bodhi_zazen> :)
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   9 [19:01] <Hellow> He is still late...
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  11 [19:01] <Rocket2DMn> Have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/Meetings guys
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  13 [19:01] <bodhi_zazen> First, welcome everyone, new and old, and Happy New Year
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  15 [19:01] <paultag> Hey
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  17 [19:02] <paultag> sorry I am am late
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  19 [19:02] <paultag> ty Hellow
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  21 [19:02] <ibuclaw> hey paultag
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  23 [19:02] <drubin> !start!
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  25 [19:02] <VoteBot> Factoid start! not found
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  27 [19:02] <drubin> now
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  29 [19:02] <drubin> :)
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  31 [19:02] <drubin> hehe :)
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  33 [19:02] <Hellow> nao
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  35 [19:02] <bodhi_zazen> I posted family pic if you like here :
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  37 [19:02] <bodhi_zazen> http://bodhizazen.net/ski/
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  39 [19:02] * drubin notices the =-=-=
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  41 [19:02] <bodhi_zazen> in case you get borred
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  45 [19:02] <bodhi_zazen> Second order of business, CONGRATULATIONS
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  47 [19:02] <robb_m> its a short meeting i think so they shouldnt get too bored :)
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  49 [19:03] <Bodsda> thank you
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  51 [19:03] <bodhi_zazen> to new (and about to be new) Ubuntu Members
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  53 [19:03] <Bodsda> damn, not me
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  55 [19:03] <ajmorris> btw robb_m, when you ping the channel, not all of us get notified on a ctcp...
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  57 [19:03] * nhandler notes that he has also become a Kubuntu member recently
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  59 [19:03] <MichaelGodawski> ;)
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  61 [19:03] <nhandler> (and a motu) ;)
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  65 [19:03] <Maddeth> bodhi_zazen, you gave birth to a cow/person hybrid!! in the snow!
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  67 [19:03] <MichaelGodawski> thx
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  69 [19:03] <Hellow> moo
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  71 [19:03] <nhandler> And congrats MichaelGodawski
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  73 [19:03] <bodhi_zazen> LMAO Maddeth
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  75 [19:03] <drubin> nhandler: old news, and no one cares about Kubuntu memeber.... they aren't usefull any way
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  79 [19:03] <Rocket2DMn> OK guys, please calm down, this is a meeting.
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  83 [19:03] <ibuclaw> ajmorris, I'm iainbuclaw
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  85 [19:03] <PrivateVoid> what is the difference in Kubuntu member vs. Ubuntu Member?
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  87 [19:04] <bodhi_zazen> Shall we run the teams next then ?
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  89 [19:04] <robb_m> back on topic!
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  91 [19:04] <robb_m> PLEASE
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  93 [19:04] <Hellow> We had a topic?
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  95 [19:04] <bodhi_zazen> Forums ->
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  97 [19:04] <ibuclaw> PrivateVoid, specific to each distro?
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  99 [19:04] <Bodsda> yes
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 101 [19:04] <bodhi_zazen> Forums, how the hell are they ? I was away for a few weeks :)
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 103 [19:04] <ibuclaw> bodhi_zazen, forums are going well /me thinks
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 105 [19:04] <bodhi_zazen> thank you to everyone how has helped
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 107 [19:04] <Hellow> Forums are like always. death, destruction, etc.
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 109 [19:04] <bodhi_zazen> kk
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 111 [19:05] <bodhi_zazen> Education -> PrivateVoid :)
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 113 [19:05] <ibuclaw> I'm almost 1700 posts old o.o
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 115 [19:05] <Hellow> Thats sad that you measure your age in posts...
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 119 [19:06] <Joeb454> I'm almost 5800 posts old...
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 121 [19:06] <bodhi_zazen> I see we are starting to run some IRC education sessions and I would encourage those interested to assist
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 123 [19:06] * Bodsda < 300
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 125 [19:06] * bodhi_zazen hides post age
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 127 [19:06] <nhandler> When is the date of the first session?
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 129 [19:06] <Joeb454> I'm looking forward to the IRC sessions, not sure if I can contribute other than attending
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 131 [19:06] <PrivateVoid> Well... Education has gotten more stuff added to the resources page, added some instructors and scheduled classes (three) in the IRC channel
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 133 [19:07] <Hellow> I /might/ be able to do one on bash.
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 135 [19:07] <bodhi_zazen> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Education/Proposals
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 137 [19:07] <ajmorris> and possible UA Team collaboration with education soon...
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 139 [19:07] <MichaelGodawski> yep first is about root and sudo forestpixie and me will give our best :=)
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 141 [19:07] <PrivateVoid> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Education/Instructors
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 143 [19:07] <PrivateVoid> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Education/Events
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 145 [19:07] <bodhi_zazen> Thank you PrivateVoid for all your hard work with that
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 147 [19:07] <Rocket2DMn> awesome, PrivateVoid
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 149 [19:08] <bodhi_zazen> I will sign up as an instructor as well
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 151 [19:08] <PrivateVoid> thanks bodhi_zazen
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 153 [19:08] <PrivateVoid> I am hoping to turn my attention on to Edubutu soon...
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 155 [19:08] <PrivateVoid> I am trying to get it adopted for some testing in my district
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 157 [19:08] <bodhi_zazen> ajmorris, you want to say any more re: collaboration with UA team ?
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 159 [19:08] <PrivateVoid> and need to have classes in the works...
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 161 [19:09] <bodhi_zazen> Any other business with Education team ?
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 163 [19:09] <PrivateVoid> Well... we are going to work with UA
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 165 [19:09] <ajmorris> bodhi_zazen, i was just talking about the education team... the UA Team and BT will be working together more very soon, at the last meeting, we thought that UA could help with Education
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 167 [19:09] <PrivateVoid> but was going to let ajmorris dial that up
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 169 [19:09] <ajmorris> and BT members are getting access to the UA Team tracker soon also :)
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 171 [19:10] <bodhi_zazen> w00t :)
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 173 [19:10] * nhandler wishes for OpenID access to the tracker
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 175 [19:10] <robb_m> O.O
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 177 [19:10] <ibuclaw> ++ajmorris
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 179 [19:10] <robb_m> nhandler: +1 :P
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 181 [19:10] <MichaelGodawski> :)
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 183 [19:10] <Hellow> o.o
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 185 [19:10] <bodhi_zazen> Anything from IRC , Security, or LP teams ?
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 187 [19:10] <ajmorris> PrivateVoid, re: education... aren't i on the instructor list for compilation & manual kernels ?
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 189 [19:11] <nhandler> Expect to have a LP FG meeting in the next week or so
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 191 [19:11] <PrivateVoid> ajmorris, that was the proposals page you were originally on
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 193 [19:11] <bodhi_zazen> I see from my e-mail you all have been renewing your LP team memberships :)
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 195 [19:11] <PrivateVoid> if you ware ready with a course we can take you to the instructors page
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 197 [19:11] <ajmorris> nothing really for IRC... we would like as many users to sit in ##beginners-help if they can though, users come around and no-one is in there...
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 199 [19:11] <ajmorris> ah, kk, not yet then PrivateVoid :)
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 201 [19:11] <nhandler> I have the LP memberships set to expire after 180 days
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 203 [19:11] <robb_m> ajmorris: i try to pack my tail in there when you call :)
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 205 [19:11] <ajmorris> will have to figure out what angle i will take first :)
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 209 [19:12] <robb_m> ..speaking of
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 211 [19:12] <bodhi_zazen> tail ...
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 215 [19:12] <bodhi_zazen> OK, wiki group -> Rocket2DMn ?
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 217 [19:12] <Rocket2DMn> Uh, just the item I have on the main meeting calendar
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 219 [19:13] <Rocket2DMn> We have our wiki page headers spread over our wiki pages now, except for the Focus Group pages.
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 221 [19:13] <Rocket2DMn> I would like to see FG leaders add them to their group pages
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 223 [19:13] * nhandler will add it to the LP fg pages
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 225 [19:13] <Rocket2DMn> If anybody needs help doing so, just ask me or PrivateVoid
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 227 [19:13] <bodhi_zazen> do we have PrivateVoid to thank for the headers ?
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 229 [19:14] <Rocket2DMn> yes we do!
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 231 [19:14] <PrivateVoid> take a look at the education wiki -- I made a custom header for them
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 233 [19:14] <PrivateVoid> ah... yes me
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 235 [19:14] <nhandler> Thanks PrivateVoid!
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 237 [19:14] * PrivateVoid nods
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 239 [19:14] <PrivateVoid> thanks bodhi_zazen
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 241 [19:14] <ajmorris> thanks PV
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 243 [19:14] <bodhi_zazen> +2 PrivateVoid
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 245 [19:14] <jamesrfla> +1 PrivateVoid
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 247 [19:14] <PartyBoi2> thanks PrivateVoid
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 249 [19:14] <ajmorris> IRC migrated to your headers a little while back also :)
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 251 [19:14] <Rocket2DMn> cool, thats all from me.
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 253 [19:15] <PrivateVoid> cool
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 255 [19:15] <bodhi_zazen> On the topic of security -> I think awareness of security is increasing, thanks everyone
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 257 [19:15] <bodhi_zazen> Please try to help with the "silly" questions when you can
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 259 [19:15] <bodhi_zazen> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=338
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 261 [19:16] * ajmorris tries to stay away from security...
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 263 [19:16] <ajmorris> the "OMG I HAVE A VIRUS" threads are just too much...
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 265 [19:16] <bodhi_zazen> New users have good questions but the threads can degenerate into trolling, so, any "real" answers from the BT are appreciated
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 267 [19:16] * PrivateVoid has been trying to focus on answering more LP questions
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 269 [19:16] <bodhi_zazen> sweet PrivateVoid
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 271 [19:16] <bodhi_zazen> kk
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 273 [19:16] <bodhi_zazen> shall we move on to ...
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 275 [19:17] <bodhi_zazen> NEW MEMBERS
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 277 [19:17] <talsemgeest> Horay!!!
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 279 [19:17] <Hellow> yays
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 281 [19:17] <jamesrfla> o snap
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 283 [19:17] <bodhi_zazen> do we only have 2 this time around ?
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 285 [19:17] <Hellow> ow faps
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 287 [19:17] <nhandler> Before we vote, I just want to verify with the masters that the padawans have passed the quiz
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 289 [19:17] <Rocket2DMn> yeah, nhasian passed
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 291 [19:17] <Hellow> If not... its time to die
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 293 [19:17] <PrivateVoid> yes two
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 297 [19:17] <nhandler> ajmorris: Did talsemgeest pass?
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 299 [19:17] <PrivateVoid> talsemgeest, and nhasian
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 301 [19:17] <robb_m> oh...my
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 303 [19:17] <ibuclaw> ajmorris, we've also had some threads on distributions that are no longer supported too
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 305 [19:17] <ajmorris> yep nate
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 307 [19:18] <nhandler> Good ;)
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 309 [19:18] * Maddeth wonders if the test is failable
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 311 [19:18] <robb_m> nikoPSK: just in time for a meeting :P
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 313 [19:18] <paultag> wait bodhi_zazen ping
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 315 [19:18] <paultag> bodhi_zazen, -dev
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 317 [19:18] <Hellow> lol
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 319 [19:18] <nikoPSK> Hallo.
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 321 [19:18] <nhandler> Maddeth: It is
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 323 [19:18] <ajmorris> oh, before we do members bodhi_zazen...
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 325 [19:18] <robb_m> Maddeth: yes it is
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 329 [19:18] <drubin> can we vote with out nhasian being ehre?
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 331 [19:18] <bodhi_zazen> kk ...
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 333 [19:18] <nhandler> drubin: We have done that before
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 335 [19:18] <jamesrfla> +1 drubin
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 337 [19:18] <bodhi_zazen> paultag, -dev
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 339 [19:18] <forestpixie> we have for others drubin
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 341 [19:18] <ajmorris> bodhi_zazen, should we mention something on Ultimatix?... Its gonna turn into AutomatiX all over again...
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 343 [19:18] <Hellow> Lets do it
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 345 [19:18] <Rocket2DMn> yeah i think we can vote without him, we've done it before on multiple occasions
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 347 [19:18] * jamesrfla reads up on new members
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 349 [19:19] <bodhi_zazen> ajmorris, after paultag :)
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 351 [19:19] <drubin> Ultimatsucks?
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 353 [19:19] <ibuclaw> ajmorris, -1 on all things that claim to "automagically" do things for you
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 355 [19:19] <paultag> ok guys, quick update with Development -- We still need more members, so if you want to get involved with Nix / Nux programming, head on over to ##beginners-dev. We love you all
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 357 [19:19] <nikoPSK> Hi paultag.
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 359 [19:19] <nathangrubb> nikoPSK!??!
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 361 [19:19] <nathangrubb> OMG
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 363 [19:19] <ajmorris> om nikoPSK... when did you join lol
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 365 [19:19] <nikoPSK> What.
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 367 [19:19] <paultag> other then that, considering an update with a domain name, ufbt.org / net?
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 369 [19:19] <ibuclaw> ajmorris, except those that are officially supported by ubuntu
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 371 [19:19] <bodhi_zazen> BT development -> MOTU !!!
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 375 [19:19] <nikoPSK> I joined three minutes a go.
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 377 [19:19] <paultag> hey nikoPSK :)
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 379 [19:19] <ibuclaw> bodhi_zazen, haha
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 381 [19:19] <bodhi_zazen> paultag, good point
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 383 [19:19] <nikoPSK> Heard there was a meeting.
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 385 [19:20] <bodhi_zazen> There was a discussion about registering a domain for the BT
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 387 [19:20] <Rocket2DMn> guys please cut the idle chatter, we're all glad to see nikoPSK , but please wait til after the meeting
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 389 [19:20] <nikoPSK> Wanted to catch up with everyone.
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 391 [19:20] <nikoPSK> Sure.
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 393 [19:20] <nikoPSK> I can come back when you guys are done.
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 395 [19:20] <nikoPSK> See uou.
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 397 [19:20] <nikoPSK> *you
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 399 [19:20] <Rocket2DMn> you can stay nikoPSK
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 403 [19:20] <Rocket2DMn> or not.
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 405 [19:20] <Hellow> *sure*
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 407 [19:20] <robb_m> heh, that was cute.
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 409 [19:20] <bodhi_zazen> Is there any interest from the team in general to register ufbt.{org,net} ??
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 411 [19:20] <Rocket2DMn> to what end bodhi_zazen ?
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 413 [19:20] <nhandler> What would it be used for bodhi_zazen ?
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 415 [19:20] <Hellow> I see no need for a website
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 417 [19:20] <ajmorris> what would be the purpose of it bodhi_zazen?
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 419 [19:21] <bodhi_zazen> That is the question
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 421 [19:21] <paultag> Rocket2DMn, team site, info, wiki for just us, dev server
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 423 [19:21] <nathangrubb> Rocket2DMn, I'm not trying to argue you with you, but wouldn't it make sense to have a seperate meeting channel so normal discussion doesn't have to grind to a halt whenever a meeting come?
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 425 [19:21] <bodhi_zazen> I can host a BT page on my server
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 427 [19:21] <nhandler> bodhi_zazen: I think a wiki is fine for us
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 429 [19:21] <paultag> Versus using bodhizazn.net we can mask to ufbt.org
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 431 [19:21] <Hellow> I could host some stuff
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 433 [19:21] <bodhi_zazen> do we really need to register a domain ?
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 435 [19:21] <drubin> I don't think so
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 437 [19:21] <Hellow> lets just use something like no-ip or .tk
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 439 [19:21] <ajmorris> i don't think so. bodhizazen.net is good enough for what we need.
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 441 [19:21] <bodhi_zazen> nhandler, you want me to host a wiki ?
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 443 [19:21] <Rocket2DMn> I don't want us to have to deal with info in multiple places, we already have a fully functioning wiki, and we may be working with the ua tracker sometime, too
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 445 [19:21] <nhandler> bodhi_zazen: We have wiki.ubuntu.com
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 447 [19:21] <nhandler> I think that is good enough
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 449 [19:22] <drubin> no thanks.
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 451 [19:22] <bodhi_zazen> yes and no ...
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 453 [19:22] * Hellow could host some stuff, again
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 455 [19:22] <PartyBoi2> +1 Rocket2DMn
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 457 [19:22] <drubin> less is always more
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 459 [19:22] <Rocket2DMn> just because we _can_ doesn't mean we _should_
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 461 [19:22] <perlluver> +1  Rocket2DMn
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 463 [19:22] <drubin> Hellow: bodhi_zazen has a server that doesn't do that much
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 465 [19:22] <Hellow> drubin: I have a server that does next to nothing
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 467 [19:22] <bodhi_zazen> If anyone wants to blog on a specific topic I would be willing to add you as an author on my blog pages as well
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 469 [19:22] <bodhi_zazen> Hmm ...
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 471 [19:23] <drubin> <offtopic?
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 473 [19:23] <andrew_46> Why not buy the name and reconsider later?
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 475 [19:23] <paultag> I think we could use one
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 477 [19:23] <bodhi_zazen> The team seems mixed on registering a domain
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 479 [19:23] <Hellow> Although, it would be nice to have a indipendent place to put our stuff
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 485 [19:23] <nhandler> o/
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 487 [19:23] <drubin> Hellow: wiki.ubuntu.com
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 489 [19:23] <bodhi_zazen> go nhandler :)
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 491 [19:23] <Hellow> drubin: indpiendent
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 493 [19:23] <andrew_46> org and net just about free
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 495 [19:23] <nhandler> I also started tinkering around with the idea of creating a Planet BT. However, I need some css people to make it work
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 497 [19:23] <nhandler> Anyone interested?
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 499 [19:24] <perlluver> I am up nhandler
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 501 [19:24] <Hellow> I could help
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 503 [19:24] <robb_m> nhandler: i know a LITTLE css
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 505 [19:24] <MichaelGodawski> me too
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 507 [19:24] <drubin> paultag is a css person
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 509 [19:24] <Hellow> I already offered to, and I was going to, but I sort of lost it...
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 511 [19:24] <nhandler> It uses planetplanet. I have the source available online
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 513 [19:24] <Hellow> I could/can do css
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 515 [19:24] <nhandler> http://nhandler.servehttp.com/planet/
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 517 [19:24] <robb_m> nhandler: i have planetplanet on this computer, i can tinker with it
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 519 [19:24] <drubin> Hellow: your point has been noted
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 521 [19:24] <robb_m> i mean..just to get a feel for the css
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 523 [19:24] <nhandler> Once we get it looking nice, I was hoping bodhi could host it
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 525 [19:24] <drubin> I DEFF think it would be a great idea
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 527 [19:25] <bodhi_zazen> If we run a server for the team, I have a slight preference to host it as members come and go
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 529 [19:25] <nhandler> +1 bodhi_zazen
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 531 [19:25] <bodhi_zazen> but I am flexible on that
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 533 [19:25] <drubin> +1 bodhi_zazen
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 535 [19:25] <drubin> but for now let nhandler host while he tinkers..
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 537 [19:25] <Hellow> nhandler: there is no index on that site
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 539 [19:26] <bodhi_zazen> I do not mind running a server for the team and giving ssh access to people who wish to use it / develop web pages, svn, etc
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 541 [19:26] <nhandler> Hellow: http://nhandler.servehttp.com/planet/examples/output/
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 543 [19:26] <bodhi_zazen> I would like to have a nice looking, independent web page / site for the team
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 545 [19:26] <drubin> bodhi_zazen: I mixed views about giving ssh access to every one.
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 547 [19:26] <nhandler> drubin: He can make it secure
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 549 [19:27] <robb_m> damn i need to update my blog
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 551 [19:27] <drubin> I know he can.
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 553 [19:27] * Hellow is trustworthy in those parts :)
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 555 [19:27] <bodhi_zazen> drubin, I agree
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 557 [19:27] <paultag> the Dev team can do the development
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 559 [19:27] <paultag> I think that is the job of the dev team
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 561 [19:27] <bodhi_zazen> not *everyone* needs ssh access
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 563 [19:27] <nhandler> Good idea paultag
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 565 [19:27] <paultag> bodhi_zazen, +1
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 567 [19:27] <paultag> bodhi_zazen, can we make it SVN, and control the site that way?
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 569 [19:27] * Hellow ought to join the dev team xD
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 571 [19:27] <nhandler> bodhi_zazen: I think only people who actually have stuff to contribute should need access
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 573 [19:27] <paultag> Hellow, do it
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 575 [19:27] <paultag> nhandler, +1
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 577 [19:27] <drubin> firstly it is ina  VM, and secondly he could give jailed shell accounts for the websited that are hosted
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 579 [19:27] <robb_m> jamesrfla: dude, really, quit pinging my private messages :P
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 581 [19:27] <Rocket2DMn> those with ssh would be in a chroot jail i imagine, unless bodhi_zazen wanted to give somebody else a sysadmin account for the server
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 583 [19:27] <bodhi_zazen> And I can lock down ssh with say apparmor :)
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 585 [19:28] <jamesrfla> okay I will ask somebody else robb_m
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 587 [19:28] <paultag> brb
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 589 [19:28] <bodhi_zazen> I think a virtual machine would be fine
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 591 [19:28] <bodhi_zazen> kk ...
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 593 [19:29] <bodhi_zazen> next topic ?
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 595 [19:29] <nhandler> Members?
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 597 [19:29] <Hellow> Yeah, new members
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 599 [19:29] <bodhi_zazen> anyone interested in developing web pages / servers we can talk later :)
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 601 [19:29] * nhandler reminds people about the mailing list
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 603 [19:29] <bodhi_zazen>  Ultimatix
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 605 [19:29] <nhandler> I also updated the BT gcal
 606 
 607 [19:29] <bodhi_zazen> does this need much discussion ?
 608 
 609 [19:29] <ibuclaw> O.O
 610 
 611 [19:29] <Hellow> 0.o
 612 
 613 [19:29] <andrew_46> nhandler: Still can't access mailing list?
 614 
 615 [19:29] <-- sabirami_ubuntu has left this server (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)).
 616 
 617 [19:30] <drubin> nhandler: Thanks goodness some one did
 618 
 619 [19:30] <ajmorris> bodhi_zazen, re: ultimatix, i just think members should be aware, that tools like it, should not be recommended
 620 
 621 [19:30] <Hellow> We are getting off the topic of New Member.. again
 622 
 623 [19:30] <nhandler> +1 ajmorris
 624 
 625 [19:30] <Hellow> Members*
 626 
 627 [19:30] <ajmorris> and that there is always an alternative
 628 
 629 [19:30] <drubin> ajmorris: same with scripts from unreliable remote sources :)
 630 
 631 [19:30] <perlluver> very much agreed ajmorris
 632 
 633 [19:30] <jamesrfla> bodhi_zazen: I will have Expressions web soon so if you guys want something simple to use
 634 
 635 [19:30] <ajmorris> lol drubin
 636 
 637 [19:30] <bodhi_zazen> I think if  Ultimatix comes up -> teach the "proper" methods of sys admin and direct questions to  Ultimatix web site
 638 
 639 [19:30] <Joeb454> jamesrfla: did you actually just suggest Expressions Web? I hate the program
 640 
 641 [19:31] <bodhi_zazen> +1 drubin
 642 
 643 [19:31] <robb_m> we have a REALLY big issue with Off vs on topic...
 644 
 645 [19:31] <PrivateVoid> jamesrfla, I do not think they want to use ASP.Net and Microsoft stuff
 646 
 647 [19:31] <Joeb454> robb_m: I quite like cheese :)
 648 
 649 [19:31] <Hellow> ^
 650 
 651 [19:31] <bodhi_zazen> kk ...
 652 
 653 [19:31] <Hellow> Pickles rewl
 654 
 655 [19:31] <bodhi_zazen> Any other items B4 ...
 656 
 657 [19:31] <bodhi_zazen> NEW MEMBERS ???
 658 
 659 [19:31] <jamesrfla> Just suggesting if anybody wanted to use it
 660 
 661 [19:31] <Hellow> (no one better say anything)
 662 
 663 [19:31] <jamesrfla> are we missing somebody?
 664 
 665 [19:32] <bodhi_zazen> kk ...
 666 
 667 [19:32] <bodhi_zazen> talsemgeest, you are up
 668 
 669 [19:32] <ibuclaw> reading the Ultimatix sourcecode is like dist-upgrading a Fedora dist
 670 
 671 [19:32] <talsemgeest>  Yay
 672 
 673 [19:32] <bodhi_zazen> do you wish to say a few words
 674 
 675 [19:32] <ibuclaw> scary ....
 676 
 677 [19:32] <bodhi_zazen> how long have you been using Linux / Ubuntu ?
 678 
 679 [19:32] <Hellow> bodhi_zazen: You make it sound like he is walking to his death
 680 
 681 [19:32] <Joeb454> you mean he's not?
 682 
 683 [19:32] <bodhi_zazen> s/he may be ...
 684 
 685 [19:32] <talsemgeest> I started with linux about two years ago
 686 
 687 [19:33] <robb_m> *facepalm*
 688 
 689 [19:33] <robb_m> im gonna go afk
 690 
 691 [19:33] * PrivateVoid puts gigantic scimitar away
 692 
 693 [19:33] <talsemgeest> First Ubuntu release I used was feisty
 694 
 695 [19:33] <bodhi_zazen> talsemgeest, ajmorris spoke highly of you re: quiz
 696 
 697 [19:33] <bodhi_zazen> congrats
 698 
 699 [19:34] <bodhi_zazen> Shall we vote then ?
 700 
 701 [19:34] <talsemgeest> Oh, really? Some of the questions were quite hard
 702 
 703 [19:34] <Hellow> lets
 704 
 705 [19:34] <nhandler> +1 bodhi_zazen
 706 
 707 [19:34] <robb_m> lets
 708 
 709 [19:34] *** ChanServ gives channel operator privileges to bodhi_zazen.
 710 
 711 [19:34] * PrivateVoid smiles in anticipation
 712 
 713 [19:34] <Rocket2DMn> all hail bodhi_zazen , he is t3h 1337est!
 714 
 715 [19:34] <bodhi_zazen> .vote " talsemgeest for membership"
 716 
 717 [19:34] <VoteBot> We Are Now Voting On:  talsemgeest for membership
 718 
 719 [19:34] <VoteBot> Vote with +1, -1, or 0
 720 
 721 [19:34] <VoteBot> You can also /msg VoteBot your vote
 722 
 723 [19:34] <ajmorris> +1
 724 
 725 [19:34] <PartyBoi2> +1
 726 
 727 [19:34] <perlluver> +1
 728 
 729 [19:34] <MichaelGodawski> +1
 730 
 731 [19:34] <forestpixie> +1
 732 
 733 [19:34] <andrew_46> +1
 734 
 735 [19:34] <bodhi_zazen> +1
 736 
 737 [19:34] <Hellow> 0
 738 
 739 [19:34] <drubin> +1
 740 
 741 [19:35] <vor> +1
 742 
 743 [19:35] <nhandler> +1
 744 
 745 [19:35] <PrivateVoid> +1
 746 
 747 [19:35] <drubin> I think we need to add a feature to sign onto votebot when then meeting starts
 748 
 749 [19:35] <drubin> and if you haven't voted in pings you
 750 
 751 [19:35] <drubin> 30 seconds after voted started
 752 
 753 [19:35] <drubin> I always loose track :(
 754 
 755 [19:35] <paultag> +1
 756 
 757 [19:35] <nhandler> drubin: There is a --notify option
 758 
 759 [19:35] <bodhi_zazen> or tally votes ...
 760 
 761 [19:35] <bodhi_zazen> .status
 762 
 763 [19:36] <nhandler> .vstatus
 764 
 765 [19:36] <drubin> nhandler: why don't we use that?
 766 
 767 [19:36] <VoteBot> 16 People Have Currently Voted.
 768 
 769 [19:36] <nhandler> drubin: bodhi started the vote, not me
 770 
 771 [19:36] <Hellow> *glare*
 772 
 773 [19:36] <drubin> bodhi_zazen: NOTE: use the --notify option
 774 
 775 [19:36] <bodhi_zazen> .vote
 776 
 777 [19:36] <VoteBot> We Are Done Voting On:  talsemgeest for membership
 778 
 779 [19:36] <VoteBot> 16 People Voted. 14 People For. 1 People Against. 1 People Neutral.
 780 
 781 [19:36] <robb_m> bodhi can do whatever he wants :P
 782 
 783 [19:36] <bodhi_zazen> w00t
 784 
 785 [19:36] <bodhi_zazen> welcome talsemgeest
 786 
 787 [19:36] <nhandler> Congrats talsemgeest !
 788 
 789 [19:36] <PartyBoi2> Congrats talsemgeest, Woohooo another kiwi :)
 790 
 791 [19:36] <Hellow> I was the neutral ppl
 792 
 793 [19:36] <ajmorris> gz talsemgeest
 794 
 795 [19:36] <andrew_46> wooo hooo congrats talsemgeest
 796 
 797 [19:36] <robb_m> another victim
 798 
 799 [19:36] <MichaelGodawski> gz talsemgeest
 800 
 801 [19:36] <forestpixie> congrats talsemgeest
 802 
 803 [19:36] <robb_m> i mean...team member.
 804 
 805 [19:36] <Hellow> gratz talsemgeest
 806 
 807 [19:36] <robb_m> :)
 808 
 809 [19:36] <talsemgeest> Thanks guys!!!
 810 
 811 [19:37] <Hellow> Now, its time to die
 812 
 813 [19:37] <PrivateVoid> congrats talsemgeest and thanks for your assistance with the education group
 814 
 815 [19:37] <drubin> time to leave
 816 
 817 [19:37] *** talsemgeest has been kicked from the channel by bodhi_zazen (bodhi_zazen).
 818 
 819 [19:37] <Hellow> pwn3d
 820 
 821 [19:37] <Hellow> I wonder if he will come back...
 822 
 823 [19:37] <PartyBoi2> lol
 824 
 825 [19:37] <MichaelGodawski> .)
 826 
 827 [19:37] --> talsemgeest has joined this channel (n=talsemge@124-197-24-185.callplus.net.nz).
 828 
 829 [19:37] *** ChanServ gives talsemgeest permission to talk.
 830 
 831 [19:37] <Rocket2DMn> lol wb
 832 
 833 [19:37] <bodhi_zazen> talsemgeest, you now have voice :)
 834 
 835 [19:37] <ajmorris> who said you could come back? o.O
 836 
 837 [19:38] <Hellow> u
 838 
 839 [19:38] <bodhi_zazen> kk ...
 840 
 841 [19:38] <talsemgeest> Yay, now I can use VoteBot
 842 
 843 [19:38] <bodhi_zazen> nhasian
 844 
 845 [19:38] <nhandler> :)
 846 
 847 [19:38] <Hellow> oh god
 848 
 849 [19:38] <bodhi_zazen> talsemgeest, and you can add a factoid
 850 
 851 [19:38] <bodhi_zazen> !talsemgeest
 852 
 853 [19:38] <VoteBot> Factoid talsemgeest not found
 854 
 855 [19:38] <Rocket2DMn> factoid after the meeting
 856 
 857 [19:39] <nhandler> +1 Rocket2DMn
 858 
 859 [19:39] <talsemgeest> Hmmm, Ill ave to put some thought into that one...
 860 
 861 [19:39] <bodhi_zazen> Rocket2DMn, any words for nhasian ?
 862 
 863 [19:39] <Hellow> Its sad that nhasian isnt here, otherwise I would ask him for last words...
 864 
 865 [19:39] <robb_m> bodhi_zazen: "he" cant add a factoid, only bot admins :)
 866 
 867 [19:39] <Rocket2DMn> uh, not really, i know he's very smart and helpful
 868 
 869 [19:39] <robb_m> but if he wants one for his nickname i would be happy to add one :)
 870 
 871 [19:39] <Hellow> !Hellow
 872 
 873 [19:39] <VoteBot> Be nice to him or he will sic his ninja monkeys on you.
 874 
 875 [19:39] <Hellow> :D
 876 
 877 [19:39] <Snowflake> robb_m: And I remain convinced that it would be a relatively simple thing to add, to be able to change your own factoid.
 878 
 879 [19:40] <bodhi_zazen> .vote " nhasian for membership" --notify
 880 
 881 [19:40] <VoteBot> We Are Now Voting On:  nhasian for membership
 882 
 883 [19:40] <VoteBot> Vote with +1, -1, or 0
 884 
 885 [19:40] <VoteBot> You can also /msg VoteBot your vote
 886 
 887 [19:40] <Hellow> Snowflake: Well, that would require a member system...
 888 
 889 [19:40] <Rocket2DMn> +1
 890 
 891 [19:40] <PartyBoi2> +1
 892 
 893 [19:40] <nhandler> Snowflake: Simple, but not secure
 894 
 895 [19:40] <jamesrfla> +1
 896 
 897 [19:40] <Hellow> 0
 898 
 899 [19:40] <talsemgeest> +1
 900 
 901 [19:40] <perlluver> +1
 902 
 903 [19:40] <nhandler> +1
 904 
 905 [19:40] <bodhi_zazen> +1
 906 
 907 [19:40] <ajmorris> +1
 908 
 909 [19:40] <MichaelGodawski> +1
 910 
 911 [19:40] <andrew_46> +1
 912 
 913 [19:40] <nhandler> .vstatus
 914 
 915 [19:40] <nathangrubb> +1
 916 
 917 [19:40] <PrivateVoid> 0
 918 
 919 [19:40] <Maddeth> +0
 920 
 921 [19:41] <Maddeth> 0
 922 
 923 [19:41] <PrivateVoid> +1
 924 
 925 [19:41] <PrivateVoid> 89
 926 
 927 [19:41] <Hellow> 84
 928 
 929 [19:41] <PrivateVoid> oh,.... we are voting
 930 
 931 [19:41] <Hellow> rly?
 932 
 933 [19:41] <drubin> +1
 934 
 935 [19:41] <Maddeth> sorry would +1 but I dont know them :p
 936 
 937 [19:41] <drubin> thanks
 938 
 939 [19:41] <Joeb454> +1
 940 
 941 [19:41] <Joeb454> :) lol
 942 
 943 [19:41] <ibuclaw> Maddeth, Snova
 944 
 945 [19:41] <Maddeth> OH
 946 
 947 [19:41] <Maddeth> +1
 948 
 949 [19:41] <robb_m> +86
 950 
 951 [19:41] <drubin> nhandler: why not secure?
 952 
 953 [19:41] <Rocket2DMn> were voting for nhasian
 954 
 955 [19:42] * robb_m laughs
 956 
 957 [19:42] <robb_m> sorry
 958 
 959 [19:42] <bodhi_zazen> .vote
 960 
 961 [19:42] <nhandler> drubin: secure isn't the best word, but I'll talk about it later
 962 
 963 [19:42] * drubin will be sleeping
 964 
 965 [19:42] <Hellow> +84309
 966 
 967 [19:42] <ibuclaw> hehe
 968 
 969 [19:42] <Rocket2DMn> i think we overloaded the bot
 970 
 971 [19:42] <ibuclaw> bodhi_zazen, may be a minute :)
 972 
 973 [19:42] <Hellow> lol
 974 
 975 [19:43] <Hellow> "oops"
 976 
 977 [19:43] <drubin> .lag
 978 
 979 [19:43] <bodhi_zazen> VoteBot ???
 980 
 981 [19:43] <jamesrfla> wow
 982 
 983 [19:43] <nhandler> Yeah, the --notify feature slows it down
 984 
 985 [19:43] <Hellow> .yay
 986 
 987 [19:43] <ajmorris> its just because perl fails so much
 988 
 989 [19:43] <nhandler> ajmorris--
 990 
 991 [19:43] <bodhi_zazen> !wake-up
 992 
 993 [19:43] <jamesrfla> (7:43:05 PM) VoteBot: We Are Now Voting on nhasian for membership
 994 
 995 [19:43] <jamesrfla> lagg
 996 
 997 [19:43] <Hellow> wait, what?
 998 
 999 [19:43] <jamesrfla> 3 min lag
1000 
1001 [19:43] <Hellow> .killthebot
1002 
1003 [19:44] <bodhi_zazen> While we are waiting ...
1004 
1005 [19:44] <jamesrfla> o now
1006 
1007 [19:44] <MichaelGodawski> sry guys have to leave it is so late here give nhasian a +1 for me
1008 
1009 [19:44] <Rocket2DMn> ok stop passing it commands, thats not helping
1010 
1011 [19:44] <MichaelGodawski> good night
1012 
1013 [19:44] <jamesrfla> it counted vote now
1014 
1015 [19:44] <PartyBoi2> night MichaelGodawski
1016 
1017 [19:44] <Rocket2DMn> see ya MichaelGodawski
1018 
1019 [19:44] <forestpixie> night
1020 
1021 [19:44] <ajmorris> later MichaelGodawski
1022 
1023 [19:44] <bodhi_zazen> Any other potential members ?
1024 
1025 [19:44] <-- MichaelGodawski has left this server ("Leaving").
1026 
1027 [19:44] <nhandler> Nope
1028 
1029 [19:44] <Hellow> no
1030 
1031 [19:44] <jamesrfla> 4MIN!!!!! to count and tell me about the vote.....
1032 
1033 [19:44] <bodhi_zazen> jgoguen, Snowflake stunatra tim_sharitt Yoshi_Matrix ???
1034 
1035 [19:44] <Hellow> its just getting to my vote...
1036 
1037 [19:44] <Snowflake> Possibly a future member...
1038 
1039 [19:44] <VoteBot> 12 People Have Currently Voted.
1040 
1041 [19:44] <Snowflake> members*
1042 
1043 [19:44] <Hellow> ROFL
1044 
1045 [19:44] <jgoguen> hi?
1046 
1047 [19:44] <jamesrfla> lol
1048 
1049 [19:44] <jgoguen> :)
1050 
1051 [19:44] <Rocket2DMn> ok dont use that --notify option again
1052 
1053 [19:45] <drubin> nhandler: why??
1054 
1055 [19:45] <nhandler> ;)
1056 
1057 [19:45] <Hellow> +1 Rocket2DMn
1058 
1059 [19:45] <nhandler> drubin: Why what?
1060 
1061 [19:45] <tim_sharitt> bodhi_zazen: did I miss something?
1062 
1063 [19:45] <drubin> nhandler: why does it sloe down that much
1064 
1065 [19:45] <bodhi_zazen> no, just encouraging new members :)
1066 
1067 [19:45] <Hellow> The bot is in a depression right now..
1068 
1069 [19:45] <nhandler> drubin: Blame freenode
1070 
1071 [19:45] <VoteBot> We Are Done Voting On:  nhasian for membership
1072 
1073 [19:45] <bodhi_zazen> I was away for a while and am wondering if anyone else is up for membership
1074 
1075 [19:45] <VoteBot> 19 People Voted. 16 People For. 0 People Against. 3 People Neutral.
1076 
1077 [19:45] <jamesrfla> bodhi_zazen: Would this be a good time to ask the BT on what they think my factoid for votebot should be?
1078 
1079 [19:45] <tim_sharitt> Well I am interested
1080 
1081 [19:45] <Hellow> It /just/ got to that
1082 
1083 [19:46] <nhandler> jamesrfla: Wait until after the meeting
1084 
1085 [19:46] <robb_m> stalkarazzo, can i talk to you boys after the meetings over in a room to be discolsed in private message please?
1086 
1087 [19:46] <bodhi_zazen> jamesrfla, don't ask !!!
1088 
1089 [19:46] <bodhi_zazen> Welcome nhasian :)
1090 
1091 [19:46] * jamesrfla hides and bows backwordly 
1092 
1093 [19:46] <ibuclaw> jamesrfla, Teflon ?
1094 
1095 [19:46] <-- andrew_46 has left this server ("leaving").
1096 
1097 [19:46] <Hellow> Are we done with the meeting?
1098 
1099 [19:46] <jamesrfla> Teflon?
1100 
1101 [19:46] <bodhi_zazen> I believe so ...
1102 
1103 [19:46] <perlluver> is there a topic here?
1104 
1105 [19:46] <Hellow> FTW
1106 
1107 [19:46] --> andrew_46 has joined this channel (n=andrew@unaffiliated/andrew46/x-040147).
1108 
1109 [19:46] *** ChanServ gives andrew_46 permission to talk.
1110 
1111 [19:46] <bodhi_zazen> any other issues ?
1112 
1113 [19:46] <forestpixie> ok I gotta go now - night all
1114 
1115 [19:46] <andrew_46> oops
1116 
1117 [19:47] <perlluver> night forestpixie
1118 
1119 [19:47] <PartyBoi2> night forestpixie
1120 
1121 [19:47] <talsemgeest> Night forestpixie
1122 
1123 [19:47] <Hellow> night forestpixie
1124 
1125 [19:47] <bodhi_zazen> night forestpixie
1126 
1127 [19:47] <jamesrfla> night forestpixie
1128 
1129 [19:47] <ajmorris> later forestpixie
1130 
1131 [19:47] <nhandler> bodhi_zazen: .meeting
1132 
1133 [19:47] <drubin> night forestpixie
1134 
1135 [19:47] <ibuclaw> night elfy
1136 
1137 [19:47] <drubin> ajmorris: you had to change it
1138 
1139 [19:47] <Hellow> I bet we just pinged his client out of existance...
1140 
1141 [19:47] <Rocket2DMn> ok, let's please end this meeting
1142 
1143 [19:47] <jamesrfla> wow lot of good byes
1144 
1145 [19:47] <bodhi_zazen> other issues going twice ...
1146 
1147 [19:47] <bodhi_zazen> .meeting
1148 
1149 [19:47] <drubin> kick them out
1150 
1151 [19:47] * PrivateVoid nods to closing he meeting
1152 
1153 [19:47] <Hellow> its not over!
1154 
1155 [19:48] <bodhi_zazen> It will take VoteBot a few minutes ...
1156 
1157 [19:48] <nhandler> lol
1158 
1159 [19:48] <PrivateVoid> remember folks we have some members up for membership tonight
1160 
1161 [19:48] <jamesrfla> Okay guys what do you think my factoid for votebot should be?
1162 
1163 [19:48] <Hellow> *twiddles fingers*
1164 
1165 [19:48] <perlluver> where PrivateVoid
1166 
1167 [19:48] <Rocket2DMn> we voted 2 members in, the others havent been quizzed according to the wiki
1168 
1169 [19:48] <ibuclaw> jamesrfla,  characterized by imperviousness to blame or criticism
1170 
1171 [19:48] <PrivateVoid> in the #ubuntu-meeting room
1172 
1173 [19:48] <forestpixie> good luck to those before the beak later :)
1174 
1175 [19:48] <-- forestpixie has left this server ("that's enough for now").
1176 
1177 [19:48] <jamesrfla> other than ibuclaw
1178 
1179 [19:48] <bodhi_zazen> Rocket2DMn, yes, we need to do better with that ...
1180 
1181 [19:48] <PrivateVoid> we have three members going for Ubuntu membership
1182 
1183 [19:48] <nhandler> PrivateVoid: Ping me before the meeting
1184 
1185 [19:48] <ibuclaw> haha
1186 
1187 [19:48] <PartyBoi2> what time PrivateVoid ?
1188 
1189 [19:48] * nhandler wants to be there for support
1190 
1191 [19:48] <jamesrfla> I should do this a little later
1192 
1193 [19:48] <PrivateVoid> Vor, Rocket2DMn and myself
1194 
1195 [19:48] <VoteBot> Factoid wake-up not found
1196 
1197 [19:49] <Hellow> I might put myself in for next meeting...
1198 
1199 [19:49] <PrivateVoid> 10pm EST
1200 
1201 [19:49] <VoteBot> =-=-=Meeting mode disabled=-=-=