1 [00:00:29 ] <bodhizazen> I have other conflicting obligations, so I will be here a short time
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   3 [00:00:52] <bodhizazen> :)
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   5 [00:00:55] <jamesrfla> :)
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   7 [00:01:08] <bodhizazen> So are there any pressing issues from the team ?
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   9 [00:01:18] <bodhizazen> If not, I have just one at the moment ...
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  11 [00:01:19] <jamesrfla> Pick me
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  13 [00:01:37] <bodhizazen> kk, first I would like a few words :)
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  15 [00:01:45] <jamesrfla> go ahead bodhizazen
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  17 [00:02:00] <bodhizazen> Just to recap from last meeting re: leadership / team goals
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  19 [00:02:14] <bodhizazen> The goal of the team is to help new users on the forums
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  21 [00:02:29] <bodhizazen> That is our "manifesto"
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  23 [00:02:59] <bodhizazen> IMO I think our goals should include helping on LP, wiki, development, and help guide users to the greater Ubuntu Community
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  25 [00:03:42] <bodhizazen> I understand we are all volunteers, and if anyone would like to participate on the team more, contribute more, add goals, etc
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  27 [00:03:43] <Bodsda> 0/
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  29 [00:03:47] <bodhizazen> please come forward :)
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  31 [00:04:04] <nhandler> Along those lines, I also have an idea I would like to run past the team
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  33 [00:04:08] <Bodsda> have we any documentation detailing how to help on LP?
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  35 [00:04:08] <bodhizazen> Bodsda: is your question related to this issue ?
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  37 [00:04:13] <Bodsda> yes ^^
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  39 [00:04:27] <jamesrfla> bodhizazen: after the 12 I should have tons of time like I had when I joined the team
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  41 [00:04:28] <Bodsda> I dont help on LP because i dont know how to use it
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  43 [00:04:40] <DrSmall> present
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  45 [00:04:43] <sdennie> Forums should always remain our primary focus though. That's who we are.
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  47 [00:04:44] <bodhizazen> OK Bodsda we will get you up to speen
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  49 [00:04:47] <bodhizazen> *speed
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  51 [00:04:49] <bodhizazen> wb DrSmall
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  53 [00:04:51] <jamesrfla> DrSmall: !!!!!!
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  55 [00:04:52] <Bodsda> cheers bodhizazen
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  57 [00:04:52] <bodhizazen> good to see you
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  59 [00:04:57] <Bodsda> wb DrSmall
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  61 [00:05:06] <DrSmall> And its good to see everyone else :)
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  63 [00:05:22] <jamesrfla> +1 Bodsda about LP
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  65 [00:05:32] <nhandler> Bodsda: ping me after the meeting re LP
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  67 [00:05:38] <bodhizazen> Related to the first issue, I think the team has a lot of potential for growth and am wondering if anyone would like to review / elect people to leadership roles
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  69 [00:05:42] <Bodsda> nhandler: will do cheers
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  71 [00:05:53] <rraj_be> shall i say one small idea
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  73 [00:05:57] * JoshuaRL is back.
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  75 [00:06:01] <jamesrfla> +1 sdennie
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  77 [00:06:03] <bodhizazen> I would like to know if there is anything anyone would suggest to get some of the FG going stronger ?
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  79 [00:06:08] <nhandler> o/
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  81 [00:06:11] <rraj_be> Shall we organise classrooms like things weekly for interested persons on interested topics
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  83 [00:06:16] <bodhizazen> go nhandler
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  85 [00:06:28] <Bodsda> bodhizazen: I'd like to see mentoring in the focus groups a little bit more
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  87 [00:06:41] <Vantrax> +1 Bodsda
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  89 [00:06:43] <cprofitt> rraj_be, I would love to see organized classes...
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  91 [00:06:44] <sdennie> Haha. Go nhandler!
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  93 [00:06:45] <Bodsda> rraj_be: thats already being worked on
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  95 [00:06:48] <bodhizazen> I think we should do weekly or bi weekly classrooms, even if they start informally and grow from there
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  97 [00:07:02] <nhandler> Although I like the idea of having FG leaders run the different FGs, it seems like most of them (including my own) are having a hard time getting regular meetings going. Would anyone object to the team / BT council setting up regular meetings for the FGs?
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  99 [00:07:12] <rraj_be> yeah . . . .but when we have it regullarly . .it will eb much usefull
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 101 [00:07:13] <cprofitt> I think we need both an wiki/web based part of the course(s) coupled with IRC sessions
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 103 [00:07:15] <Vantrax> the problem is people willing to run the classes, I can develop materials np, but running them is hard at best
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 105 [00:07:31] <bodhizazen> Vantrax: I can run classroom
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 107 [00:07:35] <cprofitt> Yes... I have not had one meeting that was not me and the four walls
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 109 [00:07:44] * Vantrax mutters about a pregnant wife
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 111 [00:07:44] <bodhizazen> If others are willing to help with materials
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 113 [00:07:45] <sdennie> nhandler: No objections from my team.
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 115 [00:07:48] <cprofitt> though this weekend forest will make it
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 117 [00:07:50] <Bodsda> 0/
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 119 [00:08:08] <Joeb454> I have something wrt focus groups
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 121 [00:08:13] <bodhizazen> And I would like 2 or 3 people to "shadow" sessions so they can run them in due time :)
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 123 [00:08:14] <Vantrax> Ill continue to develop materials on any topics needed.
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 125 [00:08:34] <Joeb454> er. I mean o
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 127 [00:08:35] <Joeb454> o/
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 129 [00:08:46] <bodhizazen> Lets have a meeting on the mentoring classroom FG then
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 131 [00:08:51] <cprofitt> the biggest problem we face bodhizazen is that when people do not show in IRC the instructors get a bit depressed
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 133 [00:08:51] <bodhizazen> My problem will be time
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 135 [00:09:05] <bodhizazen> yea cprofitt , it will need to grow
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 137 [00:09:13] <bodhizazen> I think informal and grow from there is best
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 139 [00:09:29] <bodhizazen> Topic should be 15 minutes with lots of tiem fo rQ&A
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 141 [00:09:33] <Bodsda> I agree with the informalities -- however the main problem is people dont attend
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 143 [00:09:46] <bodhizazen> people do not have a 1 hour attention span ;)
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 145 [00:09:50] <JoshuaRL> bodhizazen: o/
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 147 [00:09:53] * Joeb454 waits his turn
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 149 [00:09:55] <Joeb454> JoshuaRL: no pushing
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 151 [00:09:58] <bodhizazen> Bodsda: I think it wil grow
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 153 [00:10:03] <Bodsda> no, i mean they dont turn up, we need to advertise more somehow
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 155 [00:10:03] * JoshuaRL waits behind Joeb454
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 157 [00:10:03] <bodhizazen> go JoshuaRL :)
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 159 [00:10:12] <JoshuaRL> bodhizazen: no, Joeb454 first
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 161 [00:10:21] <bodhizazen> Bodsda: sticky on forms will help
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 163 [00:10:24] <cprofitt> I think having tutorials on the forums and wikis coupled with question and answer sessions on IRC would generate interest
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 165 [00:10:28] <bodhizazen> Joeb454: go for it :)
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 167 [00:10:36] <bodhizazen> +1 cprofitt
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 169 [00:10:38] <Vantrax> Maybe there is another way bodhi, if we have a list of instructors who can teach listed and the 'classes' are 10 min, we could do them adhoc as requested
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 171 [00:10:48] * jamesrfla waits behind Joeb454
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 173 [00:10:58] <Vantrax> people just ping one of the trainers to see if they are free
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 175 [00:10:59] <JoshuaRL> jamesrfla: me first foo :)
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 177 [00:11:00] <bodhizazen> Good idea
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 179 [00:11:03] <ibuclaw> Bodsda: am I still here?
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 181 [00:11:09] <Bodsda> ibuclaw: yes
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 183 [00:11:12] <Joeb454> oh
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 185 [00:11:14] <jamesrfla> lol
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 187 [00:11:16] <bodhizazen> I think we should have a separate meeting to discuss mentoring
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 189 [00:11:17] <Joeb454> Erm, well...
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 191 [00:11:17] <cprofitt> Vantrax, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Education/Proposals
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 193 [00:11:28] <Vantrax> he he, ok cp
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 195 [00:11:29] <ibuclaw> Bodsda: lol ... I had a dodgy connection for a minute there :P
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 197 [00:11:30] <cprofitt> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Education/Instructors
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 199 [00:11:40] <ibuclaw> Bodsda: I posted that 15 minutes ago
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 201 [00:11:45] <bodhizazen> Those are my issues :)
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 203 [00:12:01] <Bodsda> hah, ok ibuclaw we have been discussing classes and LP
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 205 [00:12:04] <bodhizazen> go JoshuaRL :)
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 207 [00:12:12] <Joeb454> as some of you know, I'm (supposed) to be a joint-fg lead with ajmorris on the IRC focus group. We really need to get it kickstarted. But I don't have the time to give to get it going again, so I'd like to offer the place to another member
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 209 [00:12:15] <Vantrax> cprofitt, more so they dont have scheduled times, more approximate availabilities that they are willing to teach during.
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 211 [00:12:34] <ibuclaw> Classes++
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 213 [00:12:47] <cprofitt> Vantrax, that goes with having forum how-tos and Q&A times
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 215 [00:12:52] <Bodsda> Joeb454: I have quite a bit of free time atm, would does the job involve?
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 217 [00:12:53] <JoshuaRL> bodhizazen: i think that advertising has to me kind of massive. just a sticky probably wont work. as LaRoza said, you can lead a noob to a sticky, but you cant make them read.
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 219 [00:12:58] <ibuclaw> I'd like to get involved in some teaching sometime
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 221 [00:13:02] <Vantrax> yeah, just thinking more generic and less time and date
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 223 [00:13:08] <cprofitt> its kind of like optional lab sessions in which the teacher / grad assistant are there to answer questions
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 225 [00:13:15] <Vantrax> maybe we need to have a classroom meeting after?
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 227 [00:13:28] <JoshuaRL> id be willing to do some teaching
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 229 [00:13:31] <Joeb454> Bodsda: it involves liaising with ajmorris about how to get the damn thing started again :) it may also involve hosting bhb if possible :)
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 231 [00:13:38] <bodhizazen> I agree with what you are saying JoshuaRL re: advertising
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 233 [00:13:44] <cprofitt> is forest not here?
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 235 [00:13:44] <bodhizazen> any other suggestions ?
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 237 [00:13:57] * jamesrfla continues to wait
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 239 [00:13:59] <nhandler> Joeb454: This is one reason I wanted to have the BT council/members schedule regular meetings for all of the FGs
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 241 [00:14:01] <bodhizazen> We can probably connect with some of the LUG for example
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 243 [00:14:02] <Bodsda> Joeb454: I can host him, but it would be dodgy lol, i dont have server as such just a desktop with apache
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 245 [00:14:12] <Vantrax> maybe let jamesrfla get whatever it is out...
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 247 [00:14:20] <Joeb454> Bodsda: it doesn't really need apache, unless you wanted logs
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 249 [00:14:22] <bodhizazen> And I can throw together a web page for the team on my server
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 251 [00:14:23] <ibuclaw> oh, and Bodsda. I think mentoring should be at the discretion of the padawan. But that is just me saying that.
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 253 [00:14:23] <JoshuaRL> Vantrax: +1
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 255 [00:14:27] <Joeb454> Bodsda: I can continue to host though
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 257 [00:14:30] <cprofitt> forestpixie and Michael have run classes so it would be great if they were here to add to the discussion
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 259 [00:14:35] <jamesrfla> +1 Vantrax
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 261 [00:14:43] <Joeb454> nhandler: yeah definitely +1 for that.
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 263 [00:14:46] <bodhizazen> go jamesrfla
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 265 [00:14:52] <jamesrfla> thanks bodhizazen
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 267 [00:15:11] <jamesrfla> You guys are talking about classes and wiki kind of stuff right?
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 269 [00:15:16] <Vantrax> yes
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 271 [00:15:20] <JoshuaRL> jamesrfla: yep
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 273 [00:15:20] <Bodsda> uh huh
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 275 [00:15:21] <rraj_be> yes
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 277 [00:15:32] <ibuclaw> (hey rraj_be :))
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 279 [00:15:40] <rraj_be> hello ibuclaw
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 281 [00:15:43] <rraj_be> ;)
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 283 [00:15:46] <jamesrfla> Maybe attached the wiki there would be a forum thing if somebody has trouble with something
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 285 [00:16:03] <cprofitt> jamesrfla, you mean a form?
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 287 [00:16:05] <Vantrax> like a regularly pruned thread about each topic?
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 289 [00:16:12] <Vantrax> on the ubuntu forums?
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 291 [00:16:25] <Bodsda> I dont think we can have forums on the ubuntu wiki... if thats what you mean
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 293 [00:16:38] <cprofitt> we have this page -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Education/Resources
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 295 [00:16:39] <JoshuaRL> jamesrfla: good idea, but then we'd be locked into checking those a lot
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 297 [00:16:43] <cprofitt> which links people to resources...
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 299 [00:16:46] <jamesrfla> yeah like a forums link to some forum. Everybody is creating these wiki guides but what about the people that fallow it but have problems and need help
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 301 [00:16:54] <cprofitt> it would be great to have more people adding to the list...
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 303 [00:17:17] <Bodsda> jamesrfla: I think this is a good idea, a link to a forum somewhere -- perhaps we can request one from uf?
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 305 [00:17:25] <Vantrax> i can host a phpbb on my website if neccessary
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 307 [00:17:27] <cprofitt> My goal jamesrfla would be for people that have issues with the wiki guide to be able to attend an IRC session and get help
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 309 [00:17:40] <JoshuaRL> jamesrfla: that is what ABF and GH is for. if they have issues, they can post. thats how i feel TBH
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 311 [00:17:44] <jamesrfla> that is also good too cprofitt
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 313 [00:17:53] <cprofitt> but having a place to post of the forums would make it easier for people in different timezones
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 315 [00:18:06] <Vantrax> cprofitt, that tends to be the issue
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 317 [00:18:10] <jamesrfla> +1 cprofitt
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 319 [00:18:25] <Vantrax> its why I have a hard time running classes myself
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 321 [00:18:31] <jamesrfla> my other thing does the team have like a todo list or something?
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 323 [00:18:40] * cprofitt ponders that UFBT Help Desk
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 325 [00:18:41] <JoshuaRL> i still feel that is better left to UF. if they have an issue, they can post what step gave them problems
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 327 [00:19:16] <cprofitt> JoshuaRL, the issue with forums is that the responses can often be from people who do not know the answer... but try
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 329 [00:19:17] <Vantrax> i agree JoshuaRL but having a sub forum on UF dedicated to it, with a thread related to each program would be nice
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 331 [00:19:30] <bodhizazen> kk, any other suggestions for mentoring ?
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 333 [00:19:33] <cprofitt> it would be nice to have a nice 'clean' way for a question and an answer
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 335 [00:19:45] <ibuclaw> cprofitt: Launchpad Answers
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 337 [00:19:47] <cprofitt> when we say mentoring -- can we define that better bodhizazen ?
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 339 [00:19:47] <Bodsda> not really a todo list but here is our mission statement https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/MissionStatement
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 341 [00:19:52] <bodhizazen> I would also suggest perhaps bi-weekly meeting rather then monthly ?
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 343 [00:19:59] <jamesrfla> have some kind of permissions to allow only certain people to be able to respond
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 345 [00:20:02] <bodhizazen> cprofitt: sorry
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 347 [00:20:04] <nhandler> bodhizazen: For the team?
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 349 [00:20:07] <rraj_be> +1 bodhizazen
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 351 [00:20:09] <Vantrax> thats a good point ibuclaw we can set up a project for that with an answers section...
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 353 [00:20:09] <Bodsda> bodhizazen: I agree, monthly is too long, people will forget
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 355 [00:20:12] <bodhizazen> mentoring meaning running sessions on classroom
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 357 [00:20:13] <jgoguen> +1 bodhizazen
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 359 [00:20:36] <JoshuaRL> cprofitt: i agree in theory, but isnt that what UF is based on? it doesnt have to be Mr Linus Torvalds answering you
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 361 [00:20:56] <cprofitt> bodhizazen, mentoring -- that is 'assisting prospective members to become members and members to take on additional activities in the Ubuntu community" -- is that a good definition?
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 363 [00:20:57] <Joeb454> bodhizazen: I think bi-weekly meetings are good, because chances are if you can't make one of them, it's not as big a deal as missing a monthly meeting
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 365 [00:20:59] <Vantrax> long as its the right answer JoshuaRL, not a wrong one
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 367 [00:21:07] <Bodsda> JoshuaRL: ubuntu forums is about the operating system in its entirity, we would be about our classes primarily
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 369 [00:21:20] <JoshuaRL> which are about Ubuntu
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 371 [00:21:25] <ibuclaw> Vantrax: there's already one in place. It's like a formal forum. little to no trolls, and all answers are written straight and to the point.
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 373 [00:21:37] <Vantrax> works for me
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 375 [00:21:47] <ibuclaw> Vantrax: https://answers.launchpad.net/
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 377 [00:21:58] <Bodsda> JoshuaRL: throw a fish into the see it is unlikely to find its mother, put it in a pond it will find its mother
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 379 [00:22:17] <cprofitt> is that the definition for everyone? or is mentoring more?
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 381 [00:22:19] <Vantrax> ibuclaw, i spend a fair bit of time there... i ment having a project on launchpad for our answers specifically
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 383 [00:22:30] <JoshuaRL> im not saying we drop it like its hot and leave. but we cant assume all questions can go only to us. we're just dudes that want to help, not some ruling class.
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 385 [00:22:37] <cprofitt> mentoring for me is for members and prospective members... classes are for everyone
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 387 [00:22:41] <bodhizazen> Let us try to have more frequent meetings then
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 389 [00:22:50] <Vantrax> im with cprofitt on that one
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 391 [00:23:02] <bodhizazen> The other thing , we need to make sure the membership process is not overwhelming
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 393 [00:23:04] <nhandler> I think we really need to move on right now. We can discuss this topic more later
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 395 [00:23:05] <cprofitt> given that...
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 397 [00:23:07] <Bodsda> JoshuaRL: no but we could be a first port of call when a problem is with our instruction (eg classes)
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 399 [00:23:14] <bodhizazen> I would like to drop the requirement for a "quiz"
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 401 [00:23:21] <Rocket2DMn> o/
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 403 [00:23:26] <Vantrax> bodhizazen, can we still do it for fun?
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 405 [00:23:27] <cprofitt> mentoring of prospective members -- is that for the Masters or for all of us to take on?
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 407 [00:23:28] <ibuclaw> JoshuaRL: yes, but we can also ask active forum users to consider joining the team too...
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 409 [00:23:30] <nhandler> I don't think a lot of recent members got quized bodhizazen
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 411 [00:23:31] <bodhizazen> But keep the requirement that they make a wiki page and we get to know them
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 413 [00:23:38] <Bodsda> +1 nhandler
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 415 [00:23:51] <bodhizazen> Yes Vantrax , but I get the feeling the quiz is over kill
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 417 [00:23:52] <JoshuaRL> ibuclaw: we already do, thats how we recuit
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 419 [00:23:58] <ibuclaw> I've seen at least 4 or 5 likely candidates that are very active.
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 421 [00:24:08] <bodhizazen> I think a wiki page + nomination form an existing member
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 423 [00:24:13] * cprofitt raises hand
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 425 [00:24:15] <Vantrax> can be, but its a good indicator of technical proficiency
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 427 [00:24:23] <bodhizazen> We can do quiz too
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 429 [00:24:36] <bodhizazen> but make it optional ?
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 431 [00:24:39] <Vantrax> or just quiz people were not sure on?
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 433 [00:24:39] <Bodsda> bodhizazen: that limits membership to friends/aquaintances of the team to begin with...
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 435 [00:24:40] <bodhizazen> the dark path ?
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 437 [00:24:42] <JoshuaRL> bodhizazen: do we still vote on new members?
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 439 [00:24:42] <bodhizazen> go cprofitt
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 441 [00:24:43] <ibuclaw> bodhizazen: there must always be a quiz >:)
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 443 [00:24:47] <jamesrfla> quiz with funny laggy Votebot
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 445 [00:24:50] <bodhizazen> yes
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 447 [00:24:51] <jgoguen> bodhizazen: I understand this may not be the general impression, but I learnt a lot just from the quiz...even if it's not a requirement, I'm not convinced it should be done away with entirely
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 449 [00:24:57] <cprofitt> I just want to clarify the mentoring a bit further...
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 451 [00:25:05] <bodhizazen> OK, ok, I give in
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 453 [00:25:10] <cprofitt> and would like people to follow this with me... for a minute
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 455 [00:25:11] <JoshuaRL> jgoguen: i agree, me too
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 457 [00:25:19] <bodhizazen> we can continue the quiz, for educational purposes :)
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 459 [00:25:28] * jamesrfla raises hand for a team question
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 461 [00:25:28] <Vantrax> cprofitt, there is alot more on that o be discussed, maybe after everything else... we could go on for a fair while...
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 463 [00:25:30] <cprofitt> we have it established that classes are for everyone....
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 465 [00:25:38] <JoshuaRL> i got most of the test wrong anyway
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 467 [00:25:54] <cprofitt> and mentoring is broken in to two areas -- members - helping them do more
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 469 [00:26:03] <Rocket2DMn> Sorry, I've missed a bunch of this convo, but if you want to increase attendance at classroom sessions, why not schedule them for an hour before or right after our team meetings to start with. People are already around then.
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 471 [00:26:05] <cprofitt> and prospective members - helping them join the team?
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 473 [00:26:16] <Vantrax> +1 Rocket2DMn
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 475 [00:26:28] <Vantrax> not just about the team tho
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 477 [00:26:28] <ibuclaw> Vantrax: ##ubuntu-classroom ?
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 479 [00:26:32] <cprofitt> I think we do a good job of getting prospective members, but think we can do more to assist members grow
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 481 [00:26:32] <jamesrfla> +1 Rocket2DMn but I have a loco meeting right after this one
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 483 [00:26:36] <JoshuaRL> Rocket2DMn: +1. that adds us to the mix. we should be the first to support our outreach.
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 485 [00:26:42] <Bodsda> cprofitt: that is master/padawan mentoring, but the classrooms are where people teach a subject to anyone and everyone who attends
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 487 [00:27:11] <cprofitt> Bodsda -- yep I said that... but do we also have mentoring for current members...
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 489 [00:27:23] <nhandler> Can we please move on? Otherwise, we will run out of time
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 491 [00:27:24] <cprofitt> mentoring for bug control, etc...
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 493 [00:27:34] <bodhizazen> yes cprofitt
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 495 [00:27:39] <Vantrax> cprofitt, I would separate the Master/Padawan mentoring system completely from the public classroom system
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 497 [00:27:47] <JoshuaRL> Vantrax: +1
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 499 [00:27:49] <cprofitt> Vantrax -- we have
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 501 [00:27:49] <bodhizazen> we should (I should) use more precise language
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 503 [00:27:52] <Vantrax> they dont really connect, but again, after the meeting we can talk more about that
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 505 [00:28:09] <bodhizazen> I think we can mentor team members, and I hope the get on going mentoring in this channel
 506 
 507 [00:28:13] <Vantrax> lets get through, then revisit the classroom as its a rather popular topic, and some people have to leave
 508 
 509 [00:28:15] <cprofitt> lets move on -- I have obviously done a poor job of communicating the idea
 510 
 511 [00:28:20] <cprofitt> I will take it to the mailing list
 512 
 513 [00:28:26] <bodhizazen> and use classroom for classroom activities :)
 514 
 515 [00:28:35] * cprofitt nods to bodhizazen
 516 
 517 [00:28:38] <Vantrax> +1 bodhizazen
 518 
 519 [00:28:47] <cprofitt> that was what I was trying to say...
 520 
 521 [00:29:00] <Vantrax> just terminology fun eh
 522 
 523 [00:29:29] <Bodsda> bodhizazen: next subject?
 524 
 525 [00:29:32] <cprofitt> not really Vantrax but lets move on
 526 
 527 [00:30:01] <Vantrax> we should really do an agenda for these:P
 528 
 529 [00:30:07] <cprofitt> was the agenda not on the wiki?
 530 
 531 [00:30:13] <nhandler> It is empty
 532 
 533 [00:30:14] <cprofitt> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/Meetings
 534 
 535 [00:30:19] <Bodsda> nothing :)
 536 
 537 [00:30:23] <nhandler> Are there any member nominations that did not get added to the table?
 538 
 539 [00:30:34] <jamesrfla> nhandler: maybe
 540 
 541 [00:30:41] <Bodsda> are they here?
 542 
 543 [00:30:51] <jamesrfla> hear but not at comp
 544 
 545 [00:30:52] <bodhizazen> Can I turn the meeting over to nhandler please ?
 546 
 547 [00:30:57] <jamesrfla> sure bodhizazen
 548 
 549 [00:31:13] <JoshuaRL> bye bodhizazen
 550 
 551 [00:31:14] <bodhizazen> I am franlky distracted by several new developments, you will know some of them in short order
 552 
 553 [00:31:19] <jamesrfla> !ping | zu22
 554 
 555 [00:31:19] <Votebot> zu22: jamesrfla, stop pinging already. We all heard you.
 556 
 557 [00:31:22] <cprofitt> yes bodhizazen
 558 
 559 [00:31:26] <Rocket2DMn> bodhizazen, :)
 560 
 561 [00:31:32] <Bodsda> bodhizazen: have fun
 562 
 563 [00:31:40] <nhandler> Are there any other new member nominations other than zu22 ?
 564 
 565 [00:32:13] <jamesrfla> nhandler: he hasn't quiz but I nominate him
 566 
 567 [00:32:29] <nhandler> jamesrfla: bodhizazen was talking earlier about doing away with the quiz
 568 
 569 [00:32:41] <Vantrax> we have let people in without quiz previously
 570 
 571 [00:32:42] <nhandler> .vote "Do you think we should still quiz new members?"
 572 
 573 [00:32:43] <Votebot> We Are Now Voting On: Do you think we should still quiz new members?
 574 
 575 [00:32:43] <Votebot> Vote with +1, -1, or 0
 576 
 577 [00:32:43] <Votebot> You can also /msg Votebot your vote
 578 
 579 [00:32:49] <Vantrax> +1
 580 
 581 [00:32:53] <ibuclaw> +1
 582 
 583 [00:32:55] <jamesrfla> 0
 584 
 585 [00:32:55] <Bodsda> +1
 586 
 587 [00:32:57] <Rocket2DMn> +1
 588 
 589 [00:32:59] <JoshuaRL> +1
 590 
 591 [00:33:01] <nhandler> 0
 592 
 593 [00:33:04] <cprofitt> who are we voting on?
 594 
 595 [00:33:07] <Joeb454> 0
 596 
 597 [00:33:12] <Bodsda> 00:32] <+nhandler> .vote "Do you think we should still quiz new members?"
 598 
 599 [00:33:14] <jamesrfla> cprofitt: Do you think we should still quiz new members?
 600 
 601 [00:33:18] <Bodsda> cprofitt: ^^
 602 
 603 [00:33:19] <cprofitt> 0
 604 
 605 [00:33:22] <bodhizazen> 0
 606 
 607 [00:33:26] <jamesrfla> lot of 0
 608 
 609 [00:33:28] <nhandler> .vstatus
 610 
 611 [00:33:29] <Votebot> 10 People Have Currently Voted.
 612 
 613 [00:33:34] <jgoguen> +1
 614 
 615 [00:33:38] <nhandler> Any more votes?
 616 
 617 [00:33:42] <rraj_be> 0
 618 
 619 [00:33:53] <nhandler> .vote
 620 
 621 [00:33:53] <Votebot> We Are Done Voting On: Do you think we should still quiz new members?
 622 
 623 [00:33:54] <Votebot> 12 People Voted. 6 People For. 0 People Against. 6 People Neutral.
 624 
 625 [00:34:01] <jamesrfla> lol even
 626 
 627 [00:34:07] <Bodsda> no, +6
 628 
 629 [00:34:07] <rraj_be> :)
 630 
 631 [00:34:12] <nhandler> Well, neutral votes don't block
 632 
 633 [00:34:16] <Vantrax> i also think if two members support it, then we can bypass the vote
 634 
 635 [00:34:28] <jamesrfla> +1 Vantrax
 636 
 637 [00:34:35] <nhandler> I think the vote is good enough to do away with the quiz
 638 
 639 [00:34:39] <jamesrfla> have 2 BT members nominate a new member
 640 
 641 [00:34:53] <Rocket2DMn> Why go and start making exceptions to rules?
 642 
 643 [00:34:56] <Bodsda> It always ends up as the vote decides anyway
 644 
 645 [00:35:00] <Vantrax> true
 646 
 647 [00:35:00] <JoshuaRL> Rocket2DMn: +1
 648 
 649 [00:35:26] <Joeb454> nhandler: if there's time I would like to try and get an idea of who would be interested in IRC fg co-leadership
 650 
 651 [00:35:35] <nhandler> Joeb454: Go ahead
 652 
 653 [00:35:58] <bodhizazen> We shall keep the quiz then, but let us make it educational in it's purpose and not a barrier to membership
 654 
 655 [00:36:02] <Joeb454> I know Bodsda said he may have time, is anybody else interested in it
 656 
 657 [00:36:13] <jamesrfla> +1 bodhizazen
 658 
 659 [00:36:15] <rraj_be> +1 Bod
 660 
 661 [00:36:20] <jgoguen> bodhizazen: you said it better than I was going to :)
 662 
 663 [00:36:21] <rraj_be> +1 bodhizazen
 664 
 665 [00:36:25] <Joeb454> bodhizazen: the quiz can serve to see how soon somebody gets put up for membership imo
 666 
 667 [00:36:31] <nhandler> bodhizazen: I personally would get rid of the quiz. A vote of 0 is not a block
 668 
 669 [00:36:46] <cprofitt> nhandler, bodhizazen is BDFL
 670 
 671 [00:36:53] <nhandler> If we keep it, it should just be used as an informal way to check a person's knowledge
 672 
 673 [00:36:57] <jamesrfla> 0=voted but doesn't count
 674 
 675 [00:36:58] <nhandler> cprofitt: lol
 676 
 677 [00:37:36] <Bodsda> i think we are straying a bitm, we are on the subject of IRC co-lead
 678 
 679 [00:37:50] <nhandler> Ok, Joeb454, go ahead
 680 
 681 [00:38:18] <Joeb454> ok, so I know Bodsda said he may have time, but is there anybody else who would be interested in taking it on
 682 
 683 [00:38:28] <Joeb454> if so let me know, and I'll discuss it with ajmorris :)
 684 
 685 [00:38:48] * rraj_be is sorry for leaving in middle . . .but he's having only another 20 minutes to get out to college . . .
 686 
 687 [00:38:59] <nhandler> I'm about to come onto some new responsibilities, so I can't help out with the IRC fg
 688 
 689 [00:39:12] <Joeb454> no worries :)
 690 
 691 [00:39:48] <JoshuaRL> Joeb454: what does that involve exactly?
 692 
 693 [00:39:58] <bodhizazen> nhandler: congrats re: new responsibilities
 694 
 695 [00:40:11] <Joeb454> JoshuaRL: honestly? I'm not sure
 696 
 697 [00:40:12] * lukjad007 sneaks in late
 698 
 699 [00:40:15] <Vantrax> I would, but aj and I are in the same timezone... id suggest someone from us/europe
 700 
 701 [00:40:16] <nhandler> Thanks bodhizazen. For those of you who don't know: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-dev/+poll/tb-nh-2009/+vote-simple
 702 
 703 [00:40:35] <Joeb454> JoshuaRL: Bodsda the plan I have atm is to get a list of people interested, speak to aj about it, and get back to you
 704 
 705 [00:41:16] <JoshuaRL> nhandler: lp wont let me log in
 706 
 707 [00:41:17] <Bodsda> Joeb454: sounds good to me :)
 708 
 709 [00:41:26] <ibuclaw> Joeb454: what's this for?
 710 
 711 [00:41:37] <nhandler> ibuclaw: IRC FG co-leader
 712 
 713 [00:41:38] <JoshuaRL> Joeb454: i guess i am, ive got a little more time on my hands lately
 714 
 715 [00:41:39] <Bodsda> ibuclaw: IRC fg co-lead
 716 
 717 [00:41:40] <Vantrax> nhandler, is up for MOTU Council for anyone that cant get the link
 718 
 719 [00:41:56] <ibuclaw> Joeb454: I may be interested
 720 
 721 [00:41:56] <Bodsda> w00t go nhandler
 722 
 723 [00:41:59] <JoshuaRL> nhandler: nice man!
 724 
 725 [00:42:13] <Joeb454> ok so I have ibuclaw JoshuaRL and Bodsda...anybody else?
 726 
 727 [00:42:16] <Vantrax> was also in the UNW... you guys should really read that...
 728 
 729 [00:42:28] <nhandler> You mean UWN, right Vantrax ;)
 730 
 731 [00:42:35] <JoshuaRL> ?
 732 
 733 [00:42:40] <nhandler> !uwn
 734 
 735 [00:42:41] <Votebot> The Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter may be found at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter
 736 
 737 [00:43:15] <Vantrax> yeah
 738 
 739 [00:43:31] <nhandler> Are there any other topics to discuss?
 740 
 741 [00:43:38] <cprofitt> not from me
 742 
 743 [00:43:51] <Rocket2DMn> Nope...
 744 
 745 [00:43:55] <Joeb454> nope
 746 
 747 [00:43:56] <Bodsda> nope
 748 
 749 [00:44:06] <st33med> nope
 750 
 751 [00:44:16] <nhandler> Any other new members?
 752 
 753 [00:44:28] <Bodsda> zu22: never got back to us
 754 
 755 [00:44:35] <nhandler> Is he the only one?
 756 
 757 [00:44:54] <Bodsda> as far as i know, no one is on the wiki as up for nom
 758 
 759 [00:45:00] <nhandler> And would you like to vote on him even though he is not here? Or should we hold off?
 760 
 761 [00:45:01] <JoshuaRL> swoody?
 762 
 763 [00:45:25] <jamesrfla> Bodsda: yeah I am not sure what happened to him
 764 
 765 [00:45:28] <Vantrax> I would like to see an increased attempt to support launchpad answers as it is generally the first point new users visit as its where the built in query app dumps too...
 766 
 767 [00:45:28] <swoody> Joeb454 ?
 768 
 769 [00:45:36] <Joeb454> swoody: ?
 770 
 771 [00:45:39] <jamesrfla> he sent me a memo but he is here just not at his comp
 772 
 773 [00:45:41] <nhandler> Vantrax: That is on my todo list for the LP fg
 774 
 775 [00:45:49] <jamesrfla> !ping | zu22 again
 776 
 777 [00:45:49] <Votebot> zu22 again: jamesrfla, stop pinging already. We all heard you.
 778 
 779 [00:45:55] <Vantrax> nhandler, ill jump in and help on this one
 780 
 781 [00:46:23] * Bodsda has to run away for a sec bbiab
 782 
 783 [00:46:46] <nhandler> Well, if there is nothing left to discuss...
 784 
 785 [00:46:51] <nhandler> .vote "End meeting early?"
 786 
 787 [00:46:52] <Votebot> We Are Now Voting On: End meeting early?
 788 
 789 [00:46:52] <Votebot> Vote with +1, -1, or 0
 790 
 791 [00:46:52] <Votebot> You can also /msg Votebot your vote
 792 
 793 [00:46:55] <bodhizazen> o?
 794 
 795 [00:46:58] <bodhizazen> o/
 796 
 797 [00:46:59] <st33med> orly?
 798 
 799 [00:47:00] <bodhizazen> lol
 800 
 801 [00:47:01] <nhandler> .vote
 802 
 803 [00:47:02] <jamesrfla> 0
 804 
 805 [00:47:02] <Votebot> We Are Done Voting On: End meeting early?
 806 
 807 [00:47:02] <Votebot> 1 People Voted. 0 People For. 0 People Against. 1 People Neutral.
 808 
 809 [00:47:08] <nhandler> bodhizazen: Go ahead
 810 
 811 [00:47:13] <Rocket2DMn> early? the meetin is over when its over
 812 
 813 [00:47:16] <JoshuaRL> are we not voting then?
 814 
 815 [00:47:18] <bodhizazen> Any ubuntu members here ?
 816 
 817 [00:47:19] * jamesrfla lost his question *****
 818 
 819 [00:47:21] <nhandler> o/
 820 
 821 [00:47:23] <Rocket2DMn> o/
 822 
 823 [00:47:28] <jamesrfla> wants to be one bodhizazen
 824 
 825 [00:47:32] <st33med> jamesrfla, you lost your question password?
 826 
 827 [00:47:38] <st33med> o/
 828 
 829 [00:47:40] <Rocket2DMn> hunter2
 830 
 831 [00:47:41] <bodhizazen> If you wish , take a look at this page
 832 
 833 [00:47:42] <JoshuaRL> st33med: hahaha
 834 
 835 [00:47:43] <bodhizazen> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BodhiZazen
 836 
 837 [00:47:50] <bodhizazen> At the bottom
 838 
 839 [00:48:00] <jamesrfla> no st33med not sure what happened I will try it later
 840 
 841 [00:48:00] <st33med> Oh Ubuntu members
 842 
 843 [00:48:04] <nhandler> Awesome bodhizazen !
 844 
 845 [00:48:10] * jamesrfla raises hand
 846 
 847 [00:48:28] <nhandler> bodhizazen: When do testimonials need to be added by?
 848 
 849 [00:48:34] <bodhizazen> If any ubuntu members would like to add a comment my understanding is it would be OK
 850 
 851 [00:48:36] <JoshuaRL> wow!
 852 
 853 [00:48:51] <st33med> Wait, what do you mean by Ubuntu members?
 854 
 855 [00:48:55] <bodhizazen> I think it is a serious application though, so Ubuntu Members only please
 856 
 857 [00:49:02] <bodhizazen> Others can add above if you wish
 858 
 859 [00:49:06] <jamesrfla> st33med: can you send me the link so I can sign up for Ubuntu members
 860 
 861 [00:49:13] <nhandler> st33med: @ubuntu.com email address ;)
 862 
 863 [00:49:16] <bodhizazen> Please do not feel comments are in any way required
 864 
 865 [00:49:32] <bodhizazen> :)
 866 
 867 [00:49:39] <nhandler> bodhizazen: When do testimonials need to be added by?
 868 
 869 [00:49:58] <bodhizazen> I do not know nhandler, no rush that I am aware of
 870 
 871 [00:50:11] <nhandler> Ok, I'll get one written up by the end of the week then
 872 
 873 [00:50:17] <bodhizazen> I think the intention was to ask the current staff for comments
 874 
 875 [00:50:43] <bodhizazen> I am just bringing this information to everyone's attention as it is a public wiki page
 876 
 877 [00:51:11] <Joeb454> bodhizazen: I know the page will come under scrutiny of the CC
 878 
 879 [00:51:22] <Joeb454> and if I'm not mistaken isn't sabdfl on the CC?
 880 
 881 [00:51:31] <nhandler> He is Joeb454
 882 
 883 [00:51:36] <cprofitt> Well... I am 1/2 staff as I mod the NY forum area...
 884 
 885 [00:51:38] <cprofitt> I guess...
 886 
 887 [00:51:40] <cprofitt> yeah...
 888 
 889 [00:51:44] <cprofitt> I will go with that
 890 
 891 [00:51:51] <Joeb454> cprofitt: you're an ubuntu member too
 892 
 893 [00:52:04] <Joeb454> if worst comes to worst, they'll just be moved by a current fc member
 894 
 895 [00:52:10] <bodhizazen> Joeb454: yes, I need to update the page a little bit
 896 
 897 [00:52:14] <Joeb454> haha
 898 
 899 [00:52:14] <nhandler> Joeb454: https://edge.launchpad.net/~communitycouncil/+members
 900 
 901 [00:52:55] <Joeb454> nhandler: I had no idea mike was on the CC as well
 902 
 903 [00:53:00] <bodhizazen> I have to run for now
 904 
 905 [00:53:09] <Joeb454> +1 it's nearly 1am
 906 
 907 [00:53:10] <nhandler> Bye bodhizazen, and congrats!
 908 
 909 [00:53:22] <bodhizazen> Thanks nhandler ;0
 910 
 911 [00:53:24] <Joeb454> I need to shave, sleep, and wake up in 6.5 hors
 912 
 913 [00:53:29] <Joeb454> hours as well :|
 914 
 915 [00:53:32] <nhandler> I think now might be a good time to end the meeting (unless there are any other things to discuss)
 916 
 917 [00:53:36] <JoshuaRL> bye Joeb454
 918 
 919 [00:53:43] <ibuclaw> Joeb454: bye
 920 
 921 [00:53:43] <jamesrfla> nhandler: I have one
 922 
 923 [00:53:44] <Vantrax> speaking of, im going to the americas one to apply for membership on friday, finally, if anyone wants to put in a testimonial it would be great
 924 
 925 [00:53:49] <nhandler> Go jamesrfla
 926 
 927 [00:53:58] <Joeb454> later all
 928 
 929 [00:53:59] <nhandler> Vantrax: ping me after the meeting
 930 
 931 [00:54:04] <swoody> JoshuaRL, did you ping me?
 932 
 933 [00:54:05] <Joeb454> Snova: stop reporting things :P
 934 
 935 [00:54:06] <jamesrfla> Anybody have any ideas for my votebot factoid?
 936 
 937 [00:54:31] <Snova> Hmpf. I was going go say something to Joeb454...
 938 
 939 [00:54:34] <st33med> I would want to become an Ubuntu Member, how do i become one...
 940 
 941 [00:54:39] <cprofitt> jamesrfla, I would say -- a man who proves that hard work pays off!
 942 
 943 [00:54:42] <Snova> Speaking of reports, the first one is backwards.
 944 
 945 [00:54:44] <nhandler> !membership | st33med
 946 
 947 [00:54:45] <Votebot> st33med: Want to become an Ubuntu member? Look at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember
 948 
 949 [00:54:52] <Snova> In case anyone of concern is listening. ;)
 950 
 951 [00:54:53] <Vantrax> st33med, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership
 952 
 953 [00:55:04] <JoshuaRL> swoody: you have PM
 954 
 955 [00:55:09] <jamesrfla> good one cprofitt
 956 
 957 [00:56:01] <jamesrfla> anybody else have any ideas for my factiod? Thought it might be best to ask the team because I have no clue
 958 
 959 [00:56:10] <ibuclaw> nhandler: oh, and before I forget !botabuse needs updating :)
 960 
 961 [00:56:15] <cprofitt> well.. after that we could just say...
 962 
 963 [00:56:18] <nhandler> !botabuse
 964 
 965 [00:56:18] <Votebot> Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots. Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".
 966 
 967 [00:56:20] <cprofitt> "I have no clue"
 968 
 969 [00:56:42] <Snova> ibuclaw: :)
 970 
 971 [00:56:46] <ibuclaw> Snova: :D
 972 
 973 [00:56:49] <jamesrfla> Hi Neo_The_User
 974 
 975 [00:56:50] <JoshuaRL> jamesrfla: one for me: He's dead sexy. Your mom thinks so.
 976 
 977 [00:56:56] <Neo_The_User> Hello.
 978 
 979 [00:57:00] <jamesrfla> um.........
 980 
 981 [00:57:04] <jgoguen> o_O
 982 
 983 [00:57:06] <nhandler> .addFactoid jamesrfla|He's dead sexy. Your mom thinks so.
 984 
 985 [00:57:07] <Votebot> Factoid "jamesrfla" with Response "He's dead sexy. Your mom thinks so." Added!
 986 
 987 [00:57:14] <jamesrfla> wait what....
 988 
 989 [00:57:17] <ibuclaw> haha
 990 
 991 [00:57:24] * ibuclaw high fives nhandler
 992 
 993 [00:57:24] <jgoguen> :D
 994 
 995 [00:57:36] <Neo_The_User> I was invited by bodi.zazen
 996 
 997 [00:57:44] <ibuclaw> hey Neo_The_User!
 998 
 999 [00:57:45] <Neo_The_User> *bodhi
1000 
1001 [00:57:48] <nhandler> Neo_The_User: Glad you showed up
1002 
1003 [00:57:48] <cprofitt> just do not drink the coffee with the 'nutty' flavour
1004 
1005 [00:57:50] <jamesrfla> nhandler: A man who proves that hard work pays off!
1006 
1007 [00:58:01] <ibuclaw> welcome to the Beginners Team
1008 
1009 [00:58:02] <nhandler> Neo_The_User: bodhi wanted us to explain the team to you
1010 
1011 [00:58:15] <Neo_The_User> Who is bodhi in this channel if I may ask...
1012 
1013 [00:58:16] <nhandler> Someone want to do the honors?
1014 
1015 [00:58:24] <Snova> Neo_The_User: He's not here at the moment.
1016 
1017 [00:58:24] <jamesrfla> Neo_The_User: he left
1018 
1019 [00:58:39] <Bodsda> !bodhi | Neo_The_User
1020 
1021 [00:58:39] <Votebot> Neo_The_User: Factoid bodhi not found
1022 
1023 [00:58:47] <Bodsda> !bodhizazen
1024 
1025 [00:58:47] <lukjad007> Bye all.
1026 
1027 [00:58:47] <nhandler> !bodhizazen | Neo_The_User
1028 
1029 [00:58:47] <Votebot> The almighty channel master of the Beginners Team.
1030 
1031 [00:58:48] <Votebot> Neo_The_User: The almighty channel master of the Beginners Team.
1032 
1033 [00:58:48] <ibuclaw> !fail > Bodsda
1034 
1035 [00:58:53] <jamesrfla> !jamesrfla
1036 
1037 [00:58:54] <Votebot> He's dead sexy. Your mom thinks so.
1038 
1039 [00:58:56] <jamesrfla> dam
1040 
1041 [00:58:59] <nhandler> .factoids
1042 
1043 [00:58:59] <Votebot> Factoids have been disabled.
1044 
1045 [00:59:03] <Bodsda> lol
1046 
1047 [00:59:07] <jamesrfla> +1 nhandler
1048 
1049 [00:59:08] <nhandler> I think we can end the meeting
1050 
1051 [00:59:15] <ibuclaw> agreed
1052 
1053 [00:59:18] <jamesrfla> sure nhandler
1054 
1055 [00:59:20] <nhandler> .vote "End meeting?"
1056 
1057 [00:59:21] <Votebot> We Are Now Voting On: End meeting?
1058 
1059 [00:59:21] <Votebot> Vote with +1, -1, or 0
1060 
1061 [00:59:21] <Votebot> You can also /msg Votebot your vote
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1063 [00:59:24] <ibuclaw> +1
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1065 [00:59:25] <jamesrfla> I secound the motion
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1067 [00:59:25] <Snova> +1
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1069 [00:59:29] <st33med> +1
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1071 [00:59:34] <Neo_The_User> +1
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1073 [00:59:35] <nhandler> +1
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1075 [00:59:39] <jgoguen> +1
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1077 [00:59:44] <st33med> Anybody think I could join Ubuntu Members?
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1079 [00:59:54] <nhandler> st33med: I do
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1081 [00:59:56] <jamesrfla> +1 I guess but I want my thing changed nhandler something appropriate
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1083 [00:59:57] <ibuclaw> st33med: never :D
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1085 [00:59:57] <nhandler> .vstatus
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1087 [00:59:58] <Votebot> 5 People Have Currently Voted.
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1089 [01:00:03] <jamesrfla> +1
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1091 [01:00:04] * st33med slaps ibuclaw
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1093 [01:00:11] <nhandler> .vote
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1095 [01:00:12] <Votebot> We Are Done Voting On: End meeting?
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1097 [01:00:12] <Votebot> 6 People Voted. 6 People For. 0 People Against. 0 People Neutral.
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1099 [01:00:17] <ibuclaw> -1
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1101 [01:00:26] <nhandler> What do you want to discuss ibuclaw ?
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1103 [01:00:52] <ibuclaw> nhandler: nothing in particular ... just thought I might go on a mutiny
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1105 [01:00:54] * jamesrfla can't do the Ubuntu membership :(
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1107 [01:01:02] <nhandler> Ok, then this meeting is over