20090505
Log of meeting on 05/05/09
General Agenda Items and Proposals
PLEASE COME TO THE MEETINGS PREPARED.
This means:
- If there is an issue for the team, add it to the agenda.
- Agenda items then should be discussed "informally" on #ubuntufourms-beginners. 90 % of the discussion should have taken place before the meeting. The channel should be enjoyable for everyone, but keep in mind the purpose of the channel is to discuss team functions.
- Ideally, meetings then are for decision making, team votes. Read the agenda and discuss your thoughts before the meeting. 10 % (or less) of the discussion should happen during the meeting.
- Agenda items that require more then 5 minutes of discussion may need to be deferred.
Who |
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Members not on mailing list: saj0577, overdrank |
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Votes at Meetings |
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IRC Policies/Behaviors |
Agenda discussion
- Members not on mailing list: Saj0577 stopped by the IRC channel. He said he will subscribe to the mailing list sometime this week.
Team Reporting: Team Reports are created by most official Ubuntu Teams. At the end of the month, all of the individual team reports are combined and posted in on the Fridge, on individual blogs, in the UWN, and in many other places. These team reports are a great way for us to keep the rest of the community informed about what we are doing. I have already gone ahead and created a Team Report Page that we can use. I would also be fine updating it each month. I also want to try and get a small paragraph added to the UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter after each meeting. -- nhandler 2009-05-03 20:42:49
Votes at Meetings: In the past, we have used VoteBot during our meetings in #ubuntuforums-beginners on irc.freenode.net. VoteBot had a feature that would only allow voiced users (BT members) to vote. Now that we are holding our meetings in #ubuntu-meeting, we are using MootBot. MootBot does not have any method of restricting who can participate in a vote. Should we simply allow all people present at the meeting to vote? Or should we find another way?
- IRC Policies/Behaviors: Over the past week there has been some issues with behavior in IRC Channel. Just want to go over policy and remind members we are an official Ubuntu Channel. In addition, all members should be proactive if there are issues. If things get out of hand, message an OP.
Log
1 [00:01] <bodhi_zazen> #startmeeting
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3 [00:01] <MootBot> Meeting started at 18:01. The chair is bodhi_zazen.
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5 [00:01] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
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7 [00:01] <bodhi_zazen> Welcome everyone
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9 [00:01] <jamesrfla> Hi bodhi_zazen
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11 [00:01] <Bodsda> Morning people
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13 [00:01] <bgs100> Hi bodhi_zazen
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15 [00:01] <bodhi_zazen> [TOPIC] Agenda : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/Meetings
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17 [00:01] <MootBot> New Topic: Agenda : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/Meetings
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19 [00:01] <Hellow> afternoon peoples
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21 [00:02] <bodhi_zazen> We have a full schedule so please read ahead
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23 [00:02] <bodhi_zazen> ready Rocket2DMn ?
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25 [00:02] <bodhi_zazen> [TOPIC] Mailing list
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27 [00:02] <MootBot> New Topic: Mailing list
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29 [00:03] <Rocket2DMn> Yeah
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31 [00:03] <Rocket2DMn> Just as a followup to a decision made earlier, everybody needs to be on the mailing list, or you will lose voice
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33 [00:03] <Rocket2DMn> AFAIK, saj and overdrank are the only two not on the list now
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35 [00:03] <Rocket2DMn> saj apparently said he would get on later this week, so we just need to talk to OD
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37 [00:03] <nhandler> Has anyone seen overdrank recently?
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39 [00:04] <jamesrfla> nope
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41 [00:04] <PartyBoi2> not for awhile
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43 [00:04] <Rocket2DMn> no, havent seen him around, just on the forums occassionally
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45 [00:04] <Bodsda> no
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47 [00:04] <thewrath> no, only when he said he would sign up alter on in the week
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49 [00:04] <bodhi_zazen> How about if we send out an email to the 2 MIA with a 30 day deadline ?
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51 [00:04] <Rocket2DMn> howabout just before the next meeting bodhi_zazen
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53 [00:04] <Rocket2DMn> that's 2 weeks, right?
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55 [00:04] <bodhi_zazen> 2 weeks is too short , IMO
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57 [00:04] <nhandler> bodhi_zazen: I think overdrank is the only one we need to send an email
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59 [00:04] <sdennie> Either way works for me
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61 [00:04] <bodhi_zazen> some people have things come up
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63 [00:05] <Rocket2DMn> ok, 30 days then
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65 [00:05] <Rocket2DMn> you want to email overdrank bodhi_zazen ?
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67 [00:05] <sdennie> It's a trivial thing to do
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69 [00:05] <bodhi_zazen> Well, email helps document nhandler
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71 [00:05] <bodhi_zazen> I shall
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73 [00:05] <Rocket2DMn> Thanks, that is all for this topic i believe
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75 [00:05] <bodhi_zazen> anyone want to vote ?
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77 [00:06] <nhandler> I don't think a vote is necessary. I think we [AGREE]
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79 [00:06] <ds305> I vote not to vote.
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81 [00:06] <sdennie> Naaa
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83 [00:06] <bodhi_zazen> [ACTION] email with 30 day notice
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85 [00:06] <MootBot> ACTION received: email with 30 day notice
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87 [00:06] <sdennie> 0
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89 [00:06] <bodhi_zazen> [TOPIC] Ubuntu newsletter
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91 [00:06] <MootBot> New Topic: Ubuntu newsletter
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93 [00:07] <nhandler> I'm up
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95 [00:07] <bodhi_zazen> Team reporting looks great nhandler
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97 [00:07] <nhandler> I talked to the UWN editors, they said that they would be wiling to include a blurb about the UFBT after our meetings
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99 [00:07] <cprofitt> I agree with the process nhandler
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101 [00:07] <bodhi_zazen> I think we need someone to lead that project up , probably should be me ?
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103 [00:07] <cprofitt> and the UWN editors are very nice
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105 [00:07] <cprofitt> to work with
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107 [00:08] <nhandler> I have been getting involved with the UWN lately bodhi_zazen, so I can act as a liason
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109 [00:08] <bodhi_zazen> what do we need to do nhandler ?
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111 [00:08] <nhandler> bodhi_zazen: The Team Reporting link explains how to handle it
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113 [00:08] <nhandler> If you want, I can demonstrate after this meeting
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115 [00:08] <bodhi_zazen> link here for logs please nhandler :)
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117 [00:08] <bgs100> What is the Ubuntu Newsletter?
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119 [00:08] <cprofitt> I also have a pretty good relationship with Tyche and JohnC
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121 [00:08] <bodhi_zazen> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingCommunity/TeamReporting
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123 [00:09] <nhandler> and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter
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125 [00:09] <bodhi_zazen> OK, let up proceed with it then
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127 [00:09] <nhandler> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter
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129 [00:09] <MootBot> LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter
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131 [00:10] <nhandler> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingCommunity/TeamReporting
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133 [00:10] <MootBot> LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingCommunity/TeamReporting
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135 [00:10] <bodhi_zazen> [ACTION] Proceed with Team Reporting
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137 [00:10] <MootBot> ACTION received: Proceed with Team Reporting
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139 [00:10] <jgoguen> what's the link to our team report?
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141 [00:10] <nhandler> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/TeamReport
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143 [00:10] <MootBot> LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/TeamReport
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145 [00:10] <sdennie> Haha
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147 [00:10] <bodhi_zazen> [IDEA] I think we need to include the Education FG on that as the Moodle site has the highest visibility right now
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149 [00:10] <MootBot> IDEA received: I think we need to include the Education FG on that as the Moodle site has the highest visibility right now
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151 [00:11] <bodhi_zazen> any other comments ?
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153 [00:11] <Rocket2DMn> thanks for making that nhandler , we'll add it to our linkbar at the top
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155 [00:11] <nhandler> I agree bodhi_zazen, all FGs should be included in the team report. They are part of the team after all
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157 [00:11] <nhandler> Thanks Rocket2DMn
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159 [00:11] <thewrath> agreed
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161 [00:11] <Rocket2DMn> [ACTION] Add https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/TeamReport to the BT wiki navbar
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163 [00:11] <sdennie> nhandler: Well, maybe not ALL groups...
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165 [00:11] * nhandler notes only the chair can use [ACTION]
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167 [00:11] <Rocket2DMn> oh, thanks
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169 [00:11] <bodhi_zazen> Some teams are inactive, I think only major FG
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171 [00:12] <Rocket2DMn> I think FGs should just post a subsection when appropriate
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173 [00:12] <thewrath> what teams would be included?
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175 [00:12] <nhandler> bodhi_zazen: If the team has some important news, it should go there
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177 [00:12] <nhandler> That was what I was thinking RoAkSoAx
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179 [00:12] <nhandler> * Rocket2DMn
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181 [00:12] <bodhi_zazen> I think Education, wiki, and "forums"
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183 [00:12] <bgs100> I have to go...
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185 [00:12] <bgs100> Wait, nevermind
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187 [00:13] <bodhi_zazen> we can hammer out details over the next few weeks
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189 [00:13] <sdennie> bodhi_zazen: Yes, those seem to be the most visible and interesting groups
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191 [00:13] <bodhi_zazen> shall we move on ?
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193 [00:13] <nhandler> Fine
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195 [00:13] <bodhi_zazen> [TOPIC] VOTING IN MEETINGS
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197 [00:13] <MootBot> New Topic: VOTING IN MEETINGS
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199 [00:13] <bodhi_zazen> he he he
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201 [00:13] <bodhi_zazen> capslockfailure
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203 [00:13] <st33med> bodhi_zazen, lrn2pushcapslock
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205 [00:13] <nhandler> We used to use VoteBot to restrict voting to BT members. Now that we are in #ubuntu-meeting, that is no longer possible
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207 [00:13] <bodhi_zazen> nhandler raises a good point
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209 [00:14] <Hellow> o/
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211 [00:14] <Rocket2DMn> I think we should still keep it to members voting, people can't private vote so it's easy to disregard votes from non-members.
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213 [00:14] <PartyBoi2> It should be kept to members only, imo
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215 [00:14] <jamesrfla> +1 I kind of brought it up...
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217 [00:14] <bodhi_zazen> +1 Rocket2DMn
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219 [00:14] <st33med> Private Message Voting.
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221 [00:14] <cprofitt> we can ask to have VoteBot allowed.... in here.
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223 [00:14] <Vantrax> o/
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225 [00:14] <ds305> Stongly feel only members can vote. Accounting is something that can be done with penci/paper if necessary until automation returns.
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227 [00:14] * zu22 concurs members-only
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229 [00:14] <Snova> cprofitt: Yes, but it works based on voice, I think.
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231 [00:14] <bodhi_zazen> go Hellow and Vantrax
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233 [00:14] * Bodsda agrees, members only
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235 [00:14] <nhandler> I could hard code some settings into VoteBot to make it look in #ubuntuforums-beginners to determine members
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237 [00:15] <st33med> We can set up VoteBot to accept votes via PM
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239 [00:15] <Vantrax> Voting should still be possible just by messaging votebot, even if its not in here
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241 [00:15] <nhandler> It already does st33med
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243 [00:15] <Rocket2DMn> st33med, votebot already does accept private votes
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245 [00:15] <Hellow> I was going to suggest voting by PM XD
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247 [00:15] <bodhi_zazen> we can vote in #ubuntuforums-beginners
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249 [00:15] <cprofitt> +1 bodhi_zazen
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251 [00:15] <bodhi_zazen> which would solve the "problem"
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253 [00:15] <cprofitt> was just typing that out
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255 [00:15] <st33med> +1
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257 [00:15] <nhandler> It sounds like the team still wants member voting
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259 [00:15] <Rocket2DMn> that is true bodhi_zazen , and we can just say the results here
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261 [00:15] <Joeb454> bodhi_zazen: I don't think it solves the problem
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263 [00:15] <PartyBoi2> +1 bodhi_zazen
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265 [00:15] <zu22> +1
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267 [00:15] <Joeb454> it creates a fix, definitely
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269 [00:15] <Joeb454> but not solve
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271 [00:15] <bodhi_zazen> why not Joeb454 ?
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273 [00:15] <nhandler> I might be able to code something that would allow us to hold the vote in here, but use #ubuntuforum-beginners to determine members
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275 [00:15] <Rocket2DMn> I don't have a problem using MootBot though, it seems more responsive to me
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277 [00:15] <bodhi_zazen> and who asked you ?
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279 [00:16] <Joeb454> it just seems a hassle
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281 [00:16] <Hellow> Perhaps we can have a dedicated vote bot with a database of members, and it allows only those people in the database to vote?
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283 [00:16] <Joeb454> bodhi_zazen: :|
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285 [00:16] <nhandler> Rocket2DMn: Mootbot is open to all users
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287 [00:16] <bodhi_zazen> :)
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289 [00:16] <jamesrfla> lol Rocket2DMn
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291 [00:16] <Rocket2DMn> nhandler, yeah, but we can see the votes
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293 [00:16] <sdennie> nhandler: I'm sure you could
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295 [00:16] <jamesrfla> we all know votebot has lag. Rocket2DMn brings up a good point
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297 [00:16] <cprofitt> how do other teams handle votes in this channel?
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299 [00:16] <Bodsda> nhandler: could you not have a list coded into votebot of voiced members in #ubntuforums-beginners then check each vote in here against that list?
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301 [00:16] <nhandler> Rocket2DMn: But that means we need to manually count the votes and verify non-members did not vote
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303 [00:16] <Snova> I think that's mostly because it echos all your votes back.
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305 [00:16] <bodhi_zazen> how about if we use #ubuntuforums-beginners for voting until we have a better solution
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307 [00:16] <st33med> I could potentially modify my bot to accept votes
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309 [00:17] <sdennie> Snova: It is
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311 [00:17] <Rocket2DMn> nhandler, if it came to that, i would support using VoteBot, but I don't see it being a problem
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313 [00:17] <bodhi_zazen> alternate would be mootbot until there is a problem
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315 [00:17] <st33med> It's much faster and no lag
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317 [00:17] <nhandler> I should be able to get VoteBot working by the next meeting
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319 [00:17] <cprofitt> perhaps we should ask some of the other teams that use this channel
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321 [00:17] <bodhi_zazen> st33med: NO MORE BOTS :)
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323 [00:17] <st33med> bodhi_zazen, no, I mean 'replace'
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325 [00:17] <nhandler> cprofitt: Other teams simply use MootBot since the meetings are open
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327 [00:17] <st33med> :)
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329 [00:17] <cprofitt> k
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331 [00:17] <Snova> st33med: Votebot itself is not laggy, it just has the annoying "feature" of echoing all your votes back.
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333 [00:17] <Joeb454> cprofitt: I think they get non-members to then vote -1 to get the count back to what it should be
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335 [00:17] * Hellow echoes his prior suggestion
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337 [00:17] <bodhi_zazen> Shall we vote ?
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339 [00:18] <bodhi_zazen> +1 = use mootbot
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341 [00:18] <bodhi_zazen> -1 = use votebot in #uf-b
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343 [00:18] <st33med> What happened to yea or nay?
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345 [00:18] <Joeb454> bodhi_zazen: HOW DO WE VOTE ;)
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347 [00:18] <bodhi_zazen> [VOTE] Mootbot ?
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349 [00:18] <MootBot> Please vote on: Mootbot ?.
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351 [00:18] <MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot
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353 [00:18] <MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting
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355 [00:18] <st33med> ;)
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357 [00:18] <Rocket2DMn> +1
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359 [00:18] <MootBot> +1 received from Rocket2DMn. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1
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361 [00:18] <sdennie> 0
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363 [00:18] <st33med> -1
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365 [00:18] <jamesrfla> -1
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367 [00:18] <MootBot> -1 received from st33med. 1 for, 1 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 0
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369 [00:18] <PartyBoi2> -1
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371 [00:18] <MootBot> -1 received from jamesrfla. 1 for, 2 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now -1
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373 [00:18] <Bodsda> where are we voting?
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375 [00:18] <MootBot> -1 received from PartyBoi2. 1 for, 3 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now -2
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377 [00:18] <Vantrax> -1
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379 [00:18] <MootBot> -1 received from Vantrax. 1 for, 4 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now -3
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381 [00:18] <Bodsda> oh here
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383 [00:18] <Joeb454> +1
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385 [00:18] <jgoguen> -1
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387 [00:18] <zu22> -1
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389 [00:18] <Bodsda> -1
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391 [00:18] <Hellow> -1
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393 [00:18] <MootBot> +1 received from Joeb454. 2 for, 4 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now -2
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395 [00:18] <nhandler> -1
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397 [00:18] <duanedes1gn> _1
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399 [00:18] <MootBot> -1 received from jgoguen. 2 for, 5 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now -3
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401 [00:18] <cprofitt> +0
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403 [00:18] <duanedes1gn> -1
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405 [00:18] <MootBot> -1 received from zu22. 2 for, 6 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now -4
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407 [00:18] <Hellow> lol
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409 [00:18] <ds305> -1
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411 [00:18] <MootBot> -1 received from Bodsda. 2 for, 7 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now -5
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413 [00:18] <bodhi_zazen> 0
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415 [00:18] <MootBot> -1 received from Hellow. 2 for, 8 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now -6
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417 [00:18] <MootBot> -1 received from nhandler. 2 for, 9 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now -7
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419 [00:18] <MootBot> Abstention received from cprofitt. 2 for, 9 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now -7
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421 [00:18] <MootBot> -1 received from duanedes1gn. 2 for, 10 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now -8
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423 [00:18] <MootBot> -1 received from ds305. 2 for, 11 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now -9
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425 [00:18] <Rocket2DMn> bodhi_zazen, you have to use a +
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427 [00:18] <st33med> lawl
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429 [00:19] <Joeb454> bodhi_zazen: you need a +
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431 [00:19] <Hellow> win
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433 [00:19] <bodhi_zazen> +0
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435 [00:19] <MootBot> Abstention received from bodhi_zazen. 2 for, 11 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now -9
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437 [00:19] <sdennie> +0
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439 [00:19] <MootBot> Abstention received from sdennie. 2 for, 11 against. 3 have abstained. Count is now -9
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441 [00:19] <bodhi_zazen> [VOTE]
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443 [00:19] <MootBot> bodhi_zazen, Either there isn't a meeting in progress, or there is already an active vote.
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445 [00:19] <st33med> :\
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447 [00:19] <bgs100> +0
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449 [00:19] <jamesrfla> ?
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451 [00:19] <MootBot> Abstention received from bgs100. 2 for, 11 against. 4 have abstained. Count is now -9
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453 [00:19] <bodhi_zazen> LOL
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455 [00:19] <Snova> MootBot is echoing things as well... but it's not lagging nearly as bad...
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457 [00:19] <nhandler> bodhi_zazen: [ENDVOTE]
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459 [00:19] <bodhi_zazen> [ENDVOTE]
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461 [00:19] <MootBot> Final result is 2 for, 11 against. 4 abstained. Total: -9
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463 [00:19] <nhandler> Snova: VoteBot needs threading
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465 [00:19] <Rocket2DMn> lol, I got rocked
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467 [00:19] <bodhi_zazen> OK Votebot for now then >:)
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469 [00:20] <zu22> votebot ftw!
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471 [00:20] <st33med> bodhi_zazen, I am saying that I want to replace VoteBot with my codebase
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473 [00:20] * bodhi_zazen likes mootbot, can we do that again ?
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475 [00:20] <jamesrfla> go lagy votebot
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477 [00:20] <nhandler> At one point, ibuclaw was playing around with adding threading support
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479 [00:20] <Joeb454> bodhi_zazen: the total still would've been -8
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481 [00:20] <sdennie> I think Votebot just needs it's throttling turned off.
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483 [00:20] <ds305> bodhi_zazen: Mootbot couldn't even rig it's own election!
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485 [00:20] <bodhi_zazen> [TOPIC] IRC Policies
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487 [00:20] <MootBot> New Topic: IRC Policies
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489 [00:20] <st33med> It's multithreaded and can handle a lot of messages at once
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491 [00:21] <thewrath> I guess it is my turn
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493 [00:21] <bodhi_zazen> thewrath: you here :)
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495 [00:21] <thewrath> yes sir
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497 [00:21] <bodhi_zazen> go :)
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499 [00:21] <thewrath> Over the past week I have seen and heard issues in the bt channel. Last night was the end of the line. I believe many of us where in the room. I read about it. I wanted to remind everyone that we are an official ubuntu channel
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501 [00:21] <bodhi_zazen> I too see bad behavior on the channel
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503 [00:22] <bodhi_zazen> we have discussed this b4
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505 [00:22] <thewrath> I also propose some kind of reprocution if a member is foudn to do this
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507 [00:22] <Rocket2DMn> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/IRC
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509 [00:22] <MootBot> LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/IRC
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511 [00:22] <thewrath> bodhi_zazen: i bring it up after last nights incidents
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513 [00:22] <bodhi_zazen> complaints to mailing list with SHORT logs please
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515 [00:22] <bodhi_zazen> to be handled by council
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517 [00:22] <Bodsda> o/
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519 [00:22] <Joeb454> o/
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521 [00:22] <ibuclaw> at some point, I may merge/edit and push my branch, but the current codebase nhandler has is huge.
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523 [00:22] <st33med> \\o
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525 [00:22] <bodhi_zazen> Bodsda:
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527 [00:22] <Bodsda> is the mailing list really the best place to discuss a bt members bad behaviour, should it not be private?
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529 [00:23] <bodhi_zazen> I would like to remind everyone to behave
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531 [00:23] <bodhi_zazen> Not if it occurs in the main channel Bodsda
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533 [00:23] <zu22> o/
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535 [00:23] <nhandler> Bodsda: Depending on the nature, either send it to the BT Council mailing list or post it in ##beginners-council
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537 [00:23] <bodhi_zazen> the council will discuss it in private
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539 [00:23] <Bodsda> nhandler: and if it is a problem with a council member?
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541 [00:23] <Vantrax> Bodsda: then to Bodhi directly
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543 [00:23] <bodhi_zazen> Well if a council member acts out I will kick ass :)
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545 [00:24] <Bodsda> fair play -- cheers for the clarification
546
547 [00:24] <sdennie> Bodsda: Burn them!
548
549 [00:24] <Hellow> lol
550
551 [00:24] <jamesrfla> +1 bodhi_zazen
552
553 [00:24] <st33med> :D
554
555 [00:24] * nhandler hopes it does not come to that
556
557 [00:24] <Hellow> BANHAMMER
558
559 [00:24] <Bodsda> +1 nhandler
560
561 [00:24] <Joeb454> bodhi_zazen: I would say that in general, the council wouldn't discuss behaviour via the mailing list, rather via the IRC channel
562
563 [00:24] <Joeb454> sorry, I have epic lag
564
565 [00:24] <bodhi_zazen> +1 Joeb454
566
567 [00:24] <zu22> o/
568
569 [00:24] <thewrath> o/
570
571 [00:24] <st33med> What happened to beginner's council?
572
573 [00:24] <bodhi_zazen> complaints via mailing list, discussion in private
574
575 [00:24] <Rocket2DMn> bodhi_zazen, should I update the BT/IRC page to include info about contacting the council?
576
577 [00:24] <bodhi_zazen> we banned you st33med
578
579 [00:24] <st33med> D:
580
581 [00:25] <Joeb454> Rocket2DMn: I think so
582
583 [00:25] <bodhi_zazen> sure
584
585 [00:25] <Rocket2DMn> that is to say, i would update with info about what to do with complains or problems
586
587 [00:25] <nhandler> Rocket2DMn: Maybe a separate Council wiki page would be best
588
589 [00:25] <cprofitt> 0/
590
591 [00:25] <Joeb454> also, thewrath in regards to IRC behaviour, I have updated VoteBot's !ops factoid to display the correct list of ops (it's quite large)
592
593 [00:25] <bodhi_zazen> [ACTION]Complaints to bt mailing list, discussion in private
594
595 [00:25] <MootBot> ACTION received: Complaints to bt mailing list, discussion in private
596
597 [00:25] <zu22> o/
598
599 [00:25] <bodhi_zazen> go zul
600
601 [00:25] <thewrath> +1 Joeb454
602
603 [00:25] <nhandler> bodhi_zazen: BT Council mailing list, not BT list
604
605 [00:25] <zu22> the ip of someone who was in #uf-bt scanned my machine for open ports, should i have reported this to anyone? it wasn't a BT member
606
607 [00:26] <cprofitt> I would also like to recommend using +m to calm things down if it is non-voiced folks acting up
608
609 [00:26] <bodhi_zazen> zu22: lol
610
611 [00:26] <Hellow> D:
612
613 [00:26] <bgs100> cprofitt, but that even silences those who (don't have voice and) were not acting up
614
615 [00:26] <sdennie> cprofitt: I like that idea
616
617 [00:26] <bodhi_zazen> zu22: Well, we really do not have jurisdiction on that kind of thing
618
619 [00:27] <jamesrfla> zu22: that happened to me and it was a Ubuntu forum beginners team member
620
621 [00:27] <thewrath> o/
622
623 [00:27] <bodhi_zazen> If you feel harassed, mailing list or e mail me
624
625 [00:27] <cprofitt> bgs100, you are correct... but people evading bans find it not fun when they have no voice
626
627 [00:27] <zu22> bodhi_zazen: oh ok, just wonder what steps i should take
628
629 [00:27] <zu22> jamesrfla: ah i see
630
631 [00:27] <Joeb454> bgs100: we could temporarily voice the members that need to be if it comes to that
632
633 [00:27] <bodhi_zazen> +1 johnc4510
634
635 [00:27] <bodhi_zazen> lol
636
637 [00:27] <bodhi_zazen> servers johnc4510 for hanging here
638
639 [00:27] <bodhi_zazen> +1 Joeb454
640
641 [00:27] <bgs100> 1+ Joeb454
642
643 [00:27] <Vantrax> epic tab fail in this channel
644
645 [00:28] <zu22> /msg hellow +1
646
647 [00:28] <zu22> oops
648
649 [00:28] <bodhi_zazen> thewrath: just speak so long as it is on topic
650
651 [00:28] <Bodsda> fail
652
653 [00:28] <thewrath> okay bodhi_zazen
654
655 [00:28] <bodhi_zazen> any further comments on irc behavior ?
656
657 [00:29] <bodhi_zazen> I am *trying* to keep the channel a sfriendly and relaxed as possible
658
659 [00:29] <sdennie> I have a comment
660
661 [00:29] <bodhi_zazen> do what you want so long as we do not receive complaints :)
662
663 [00:29] <duanedes1gn> bodhi_zazen: +1
664
665 [00:29] <jamesrfla> o/
666
667 [00:29] <Bodsda> o/
668
669 [00:29] <thewrath> +1 bodhi_zazen
670
671 [00:29] <Rocket2DMn> within the CoC of course
672
673 [00:30] <duanedes1gn> Rocket2DMn: absoloutely
674
675 [00:30] <sdennie> I think we should be open but not crazy in our censorship.
676
677 [00:30] <Vantrax> and all BT members should have signed the CoC
678
679 [00:30] <Bodsda> REMINDER: Bad/Vulgar language is not 'really' appropriate
680
681 [00:30] <bodhi_zazen> Off topic comments -> table until agenda items are covered
682
683 [00:30] <jamesrfla> bodhi_zazen: maybe we should create like a ubuntu forums beginners team club channel were the team can hang out and not have to worry about this problem
684
685 [00:30] <cprofitt> I would think ghetto language also does not fit
686
687 [00:30] <paultag> jamesrfla, -1
688
689 [00:30] <Bodsda> jamesrfla: create yet another room?
690
691 [00:30] <Hellow> oh god
692
693 [00:30] <bodhi_zazen> -1 we have too many channels already
694
695 [00:30] <paultag> jamesrfla, bad behavior is not tolerated anywhere
696
697 [00:30] <jamesrfla> just a idea
698
699 [00:31] <Hellow> -1
700
701 [00:31] <paultag> Sorry I am late
702
703 [00:31] <bodhi_zazen> additional comments :)
704
705 [00:31] <bodhi_zazen> and +1 sdennie
706
707 [00:31] <johnc4510> bodhi_zazen: did you need me?
708
709 [00:31] <cprofitt> having mock fights and other foolishness is not good either
710
711 [00:31] <johnc4510> saw you mentioned me
712
713 [00:31] <johnc4510> with a +1
714
715 [00:31] <nhandler> Nope johnc4510, tab failure
716
717 [00:31] <sdennie> cprofitt: Agreed
718
719 [00:31] <johnc4510> ah
720
721 [00:31] <cprofitt> it was tab failure johnc4510
722
723 [00:31] <paultag> o/
724
725 [00:31] <bodhi_zazen> no johnc4510 , tab failure, sorry
726
727 [00:31] <johnc4510> cool
728
729 [00:31] <Hellow> Basically, be mature and respectful and we will have no problems
730
731 [00:31] <johnc4510> thought i was being volunteered hee hee
732
733 [00:31] <cprofitt> hello by the way johnc4510
734
735 [00:31] <johnc4510> later
736
737 [00:32] <Bodsda> bye
738
739 [00:32] <paultag> o/
740
741 [00:32] <johnc4510> cprofitt: hey
742
743 [00:32] <bodhi_zazen> paultag: just go ahead so long as it is on topic
744
745 [00:32] <cprofitt> one other thought -- if a Jedi Knight goes OP
746
747 [00:32] <paultag> I think we need to moderate a little more tightly in the chan. We are having a lot of issues lately. I know Rocket2DMn will hate me for this, but I think we need to give IRC FG a bit more leway with moderation.
748
749 [00:32] <cprofitt> everyone should reflect on their behavior and calm down
750
751 [00:32] <cprofitt> none of us like taking out the kick/ban stick
752
753 [00:32] <bodhi_zazen> yes paultag
754
755 [00:32] <paultag> It is out of hand
756
757 [00:33] <bodhi_zazen> report issues on mailing list please
758
759 [00:33] <bodhi_zazen> and I agree, especially at "off hours"
760
761 [00:33] <thewrath> o/
762
763 [00:33] <jamesrfla> I haven't seen any of this behavoir but if I do see it should I just bring it up with the cousil?
764
765 [00:33] <paultag> on that note I need to go :P
766
767 [00:33] <bodhi_zazen> mailing list james
768
769 [00:33] <Hellow> bye paultag
770
771 [00:33] <bodhi_zazen> OK, focus groups ?
772
773 [00:34] <bodhi_zazen> then elections
774
775 [00:34] <bodhi_zazen> [TOPIC] Education FG
776
777 [00:34] <MootBot> New Topic: Education FG
778
779 [00:34] <zu22> o/
780
781 [00:34] <bodhi_zazen> cprofitt: :)
782
783 [00:34] <cprofitt> ?
784
785 [00:34] <cprofitt> this was on the agenda?
786
787 [00:34] <jamesrfla> ?
788
789 [00:34] <bodhi_zazen> anything on educatino ?
790
791 [00:34] <Hellow> ..it was?
792
793 [00:34] * cprofitt looks for notes
794
795 [00:34] <Vantrax> who put it there?
796
797 [00:34] * jamesrfla didn't see it in agenda
798
799 [00:35] * Hellow looks
800
801 [00:35] <Vantrax> not there:P
802
803 [00:35] <Bodsda> cprofitt: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/Meetings#FG%20Leader%20Nominations
804
805 [00:35] <PartyBoi2> it's not there lol
806
807 [00:35] <bodhi_zazen> if you have an on topic comment, feel free, otherwise hold to end of meetign
808
809 [00:35] <zu22> My idea for Education FG is to print BT bumber stickers and t-shirts and sell them. And the profits go into a fund we use to advertize Ubuntu.
810
811 [00:35] <st33med> ... That's not educational
812
813 [00:35] <Bodsda> zu22: read the post above yours
814
815 [00:35] <Bodsda> :)
816
817 [00:35] <zu22> Bodsda: ok
818
819 [00:35] <Bodsda> nice idea though
820
821 [00:35] <cprofitt> Um... the education team is involved in a project...
822
823 [00:36] <bodhi_zazen> OK, as I am sure everyone knows, I (we) are in process of throwing up a moodle site
824
825 [00:36] <cprofitt> the project is called the Ubuntu Community Learning Project
826
827 [00:36] <st33med> Ooooh
828
829 [00:36] <bgs100> moodle?
830
831 [00:36] <bodhi_zazen> we have broad and ever growing support :)
832
833 [00:36] <bgs100> What's that?
834
835 [00:36] <cprofitt> it involves using Moodle to tie together existing content
836
837 [00:36] <cprofitt> to make courses
838
839 [00:36] <cprofitt> We gave a session during open week
840
841 [00:37] <cprofitt> and are preparing to present the idea to the CC
842
843 [00:37] <cprofitt> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning
844
845 [00:37] <bodhi_zazen> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-learning
846
847 [00:37] <cprofitt> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning
848
849 [00:37] <bodhi_zazen> [LINK]https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-learning
850
851 [00:37] <MootBot> LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning
852
853 [00:37] <MootBot> LINK received: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-learning
854
855 [00:37] <nhandler> [LINK] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-learning
856
857 [00:37] <MootBot> LINK received: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-learning
858
859 [00:37] <nhandler> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning
860
861 [00:37] <MootBot> LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning
862
863 [00:38] <cprofitt> I think that is about all... Vantrax anything to add?
864
865 [00:38] <sdennie> That's a lot of links
866
867 [00:38] <bodhi_zazen> We will likely present to the CC on June 2nd - so I will of course be demanding your presence and suport :)
868
869 [00:38] <Vantrax> not really, ill make a point of looking at the items on the bottom of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning
870
871 [00:38] <cprofitt> I would like to thank bodhi_zazen Vantrax and pleia2 for their efforts...
872
873 [00:38] <Vantrax> were looking for everyone to contribute on what they want covered.
874
875 [00:38] <thewrath> o/
876
877 [00:39] <ibuclaw> Vantrax, awesome ;)
878
879 [00:39] <bodhi_zazen> I purchased a server and colocation, am open to contributions / assistance with sys admin, etc
880
881 [00:39] <cprofitt> go ahead thewrath
882
883 [00:39] <bodhi_zazen> I will likely offer VPS to BT members as I posted on our MAILING LIST
884
885 [00:39] <cprofitt> yeah bodhi_zazen is putting REAL money in to this endeavor
886
887 [00:39] <cprofitt> he deserves major mojo and thanks
888
889 [00:39] <st33med> Not e-money?
890
891 [00:39] <bodhi_zazen> no, no, no, please no :)
892
893 [00:39] <Bodsda> monopoly-cash?
894
895 [00:40] <st33med> Canadian money?
896
897 [00:40] <st33med> Euros?
898
899 [00:40] <jgoguen> st33med: hey! :P
900
901 [00:40] <st33med> :P
902
903 [00:40] <thewrath> i will contribute the tutorials i have made into courses for that just an fyi i guess
904
905 [00:40] <bodhi_zazen> [TOPIC] Wiki team ?
906
907 [00:40] <MootBot> New Topic: Wiki team ?
908
909 [00:40] <Rocket2DMn> yeah hey
910
911 [00:40] <bodhi_zazen> Rocket2DMn: you are up
912
913 [00:40] <Rocket2DMn> the Wiki FG will be holding a meeting immediately following this team meeting.
914
915 [00:41] <Rocket2DMn> I was planning on having it in the team channel, but if that is too busy, we could go to #ubuntu-doc
916
917 [00:41] <bgs100> g2g
918
919 [00:41] <bgs100> storm
920
921 [00:41] <Rocket2DMn> All Wiki FG members should be in that channel anyway
922
923 [00:41] <bodhi_zazen> Sweet :)
924
925 [00:41] <Rocket2DMn> anybody else interested in contributing to documentation should talk to me
926
927 [00:41] <bgs100> nvm
928
929 [00:41] <Rocket2DMn> that is all
930
931 [00:41] <bodhi_zazen> Wiki of course feeds into community learning
932
933 [00:42] <bodhi_zazen> and work on forums as well
934
935 [00:42] <bodhi_zazen> I even contributed to the wiki , so please assist if you have an interest in documentation
936
937 [00:42] <Rocket2DMn> ill be calling on you to help with wiki later bodhi_zazen :) there are pages that could use your expertise
938
939 [00:42] <bodhi_zazen> Any other FG want to report in ?
940
941 [00:43] <bodhi_zazen> OK Rocket2DMn :)
942
943 [00:43] <nhandler> LP is fine
944
945 [00:43] <st33med> Where are these stickers coming in?
946
947 [00:43] <bodhi_zazen> if there are no other FG to report in -- Elections ?
948
949 [00:43] * cprofitt nods to elections
950
951 [00:43] <Joeb454> sounds good
952
953 [00:44] <bodhi_zazen> To be honest , we have exactly what we need on the wiki page , no ?
954
955 [00:44] <st33med> I elect Joeb454 to be Vice Buddhist
956
957 [00:44] * Joeb454 will not be standing again for IRC, I didn't even notice my name up there
958
959 [00:44] <Rocket2DMn> we have 15 minutes left guys
960
961 [00:44] <bodhi_zazen> shall we just vote to accept all members en mass ?
962
963 [00:44] <Vantrax> lol
964
965 [00:44] <bodhi_zazen> or do you want to vote on each ?
966
967 [00:44] <Vantrax> who do we have?
968
969 [00:44] <bodhi_zazen> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/Meetings
970
971 [00:44] <bodhi_zazen> scroll down a bit
972
973 [00:45] <cprofitt> I think we need to vote on each and have the nominees agree that they are willing to serve
974
975 [00:45] <nhandler> We have a US Teams meeting in here after us, so we need to be done on time
976
977 [00:45] <Rocket2DMn> we only have 2, lets just do them individually
978
979 [00:45] <duanedes1gn> Ash_R is not here?
980
981 [00:45] <cprofitt> as noted Joeb454 just said he would not be
982
983 [00:45] * sdennie is glad to not be the leader of a FG. (Or is he?!)
984
985 [00:45] <Bodsda> duanedes1gn: no, he is working
986
987 [00:45] <bodhi_zazen> Rocket2DMn: we have 9
988
989 [00:45] <Rocket2DMn> oh youre talking about FGs bodhi_zazen ?
990
991 [00:45] <bodhi_zazen> [TOPIC] Vote on FG Leads
992
993 [00:45] <MootBot> New Topic: Vote on FG Leads
994
995 [00:45] <Vantrax> oh
996
997 [00:45] <Rocket2DMn> oh ok, are there even any competitors?
998
999 [00:45] <bodhi_zazen> sorry , me bad
1000
1001 [00:46] <Vantrax> im assuming everyone is planning on staying?
1002
1003 [00:46] <bodhi_zazen> no, these have left their competition behind
1004
1005 [00:46] <bodhi_zazen> lol
1006
1007 [00:46] <cprofitt> Vantrax, Joeb454 expressed not wanting too
1008
1009 [00:46] * nhandler would be glad to have someone replace him
1010
1011 [00:46] <nhandler> (or volunteer to co-lead)
1012
1013 [00:46] <Joeb454> I would postpone it until the next meeting, so we can have time to discuss it porperly
1014
1015 [00:46] <Vantrax> anyone up for replacing either of them, or co lead
1016
1017 [00:46] <jamesrfla> replace who?
1018
1019 [00:46] <bodhi_zazen> [VOTE] Accept all 9 nominations for FG leads
1020
1021 [00:46] <MootBot> Please vote on: Accept all 9 nominations for FG leads.
1022
1023 [00:46] <MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot
1024
1025 [00:46] <MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting
1026
1027 [00:46] <bodhi_zazen> +1
1028
1029 [00:46] <st33med> Joeb454, we already postponed it once :)
1030
1031 [00:46] <MootBot> +1 received from bodhi_zazen. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1
1032
1033 [00:47] <nhandler> +0
1034
1035 [00:47] <MootBot> Abstention received from nhandler. 1 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 1
1036
1037 [00:47] <Rocket2DMn> +1
1038
1039 [00:47] <MootBot> +1 received from Rocket2DMn. 2 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 2
1040
1041 [00:47] <PartyBoi2> +0
1042
1043 [00:47] <MootBot> Abstention received from PartyBoi2. 2 for, 0 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now 2
1044
1045 [00:47] <swoody_> +1
1046
1047 [00:47] <jamesrfla> +1 I guess
1048
1049 [00:47] <MootBot> +1 received from swoody_. 3 for, 0 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now 3
1050
1051 [00:47] <MootBot> +1 received from jamesrfla. 4 for, 0 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now 4
1052
1053 [00:47] <Vantrax> +0
1054
1055 [00:47] <MootBot> Abstention received from Vantrax. 4 for, 0 against. 3 have abstained. Count is now 4
1056
1057 [00:47] <bodhi_zazen> Joeb454: we have been discussing it for some time :)
1058
1059 [00:47] <bgs100> +0
1060
1061 [00:47] <MootBot> Abstention received from bgs100. 4 for, 0 against. 4 have abstained. Count is now 4
1062
1063 [00:47] <Bodsda> +0
1064
1065 [00:47] <MootBot> Abstention received from Bodsda. 4 for, 0 against. 5 have abstained. Count is now 4
1066
1067 [00:47] <sdennie> +0
1068
1069 [00:47] <MootBot> Abstention received from sdennie. 4 for, 0 against. 6 have abstained. Count is now 4
1070
1071 [00:47] <st33med> +0
1072
1073 [00:47] <MootBot> Abstention received from st33med. 4 for, 0 against. 7 have abstained. Count is now 4
1074
1075 [00:47] <ds305> +2
1076
1077 [00:47] <duanedes1gn> +0
1078
1079 [00:47] <Joeb454> nhandler: replace who?
1080
1081 [00:47] <MootBot> Abstention received from duanedes1gn. 4 for, 0 against. 8 have abstained. Count is now 4
1082
1083 [00:47] <Hellow> +0
1084
1085 [00:47] <MootBot> Abstention received from Hellow. 4 for, 0 against. 9 have abstained. Count is now 4
1086
1087 [00:47] <ds305> +1
1088
1089 [00:47] <MootBot> +1 received from ds305. 5 for, 0 against. 9 have abstained. Count is now 5
1090
1091 [00:47] <cprofitt> +0
1092
1093 [00:47] <MootBot> Abstention received from cprofitt. 5 for, 0 against. 10 have abstained. Count is now 5
1094
1095 [00:47] <Joeb454> -1
1096
1097 [00:47] <MootBot> -1 received from Joeb454. 5 for, 1 against. 10 have abstained. Count is now 4
1098
1099 [00:47] <zu22> +0
1100
1101 [00:47] <MootBot> Abstention received from zu22. 5 for, 1 against. 11 have abstained. Count is now 4
1102
1103 [00:47] <nhandler> Joeb454: I think he was talking about you and me
1104
1105 [00:47] <bodhi_zazen> [ENDVOTE]
1106
1107 [00:47] <MootBot> Final result is 5 for, 1 against. 11 abstained. Total: 4
1108
1109 [00:47] <sdennie> I think the FG leads should be a separate meeting
1110
1111 [00:48] <bodhi_zazen> 11 Abstained , lol
1112
1113 [00:48] <Vantrax> i agree sdennie
1114
1115 [00:48] <cprofitt> I think we need to have a sep. meeting with time to discuss
1116
1117 [00:48] <swoody_> sdennie +1
1118
1119 [00:48] <PartyBoi2> +1 sdennie
1120
1121 [00:48] <Joeb454> nhandler: I wouldn't mind somebody replacing me
1122
1123 [00:48] <cprofitt> I think the 11 abstained count indicated that
1124
1125 [00:48] <bodhi_zazen> OK, FG leads next meeting then
1126
1127 [00:48] <nhandler> New members?
1128
1129 [00:48] <Rocket2DMn> ok, lets do our two padawans
1130
1131 [00:48] <cprofitt> we should ask everyone nominated to remove their names if they are not interested
1132
1133 [00:48] <Bodsda> thewrath is the only one
1134
1135 [00:48] <bodhi_zazen> Wait - BUT I really do not want to put FG leads off beyond that
1136
1137 [00:49] <bodhi_zazen> we have been discussing FG leads for some time now
1138
1139 [00:49] <nhandler> bodhi_zazen: We only decided to hold an election at the last BT Council meeting
1140
1141 [00:49] <bodhi_zazen> [TOPIC]New Members
1142
1143 [00:49] <MootBot> New Topic: New Members
1144
1145 [00:49] <cprofitt> bodhi_zazen, we could take the FG vote to our channel immediately after this
1146
1147 [00:49] <cprofitt> so we have time
1148
1149 [00:49] <Hellow> 10 mins
1150
1151 [00:49] <Vantrax> cprofitt: +1
1152
1153 [00:49] <sdennie> bodhi_zazen: I almost think it's a big enough subject that it should have it's own meeting.
1154
1155 [00:49] <bodhi_zazen> thewrath:
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1157 [00:49] <bodhi_zazen> you are up :)
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1159 [00:50] <Rocket2DMn> thewrath, can you tell us your wiki page?
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1161 [00:50] <bodhi_zazen> sdennie: I am OK with that so long as :
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1163 [00:50] <bodhi_zazen> 1. People show up
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1165 [00:50] <nhandler> +1 sdennie
1166
1167 [00:50] <thewrath> ok hold on
1168
1169 [00:50] <bodhi_zazen> 2. We make progess
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1171 [00:50] <thewrath> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/thewrath
1172
1173 [00:50] <bodhi_zazen> comments from nhandler ?
1174
1175 [00:51] <nhandler> I would just like to say that thewrath has really done a great job of interacting with the team in the month or so that he has been around
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1177 [00:51] <nhandler> I think he would make a great addition
1178
1179 [00:51] <bodhi_zazen> ufw has a gui interface thewrath = gufw
1180
1181 [00:51] <thewrath> yes that is on my next plate to do tutorial for
1182
1183 [00:51] <bodhi_zazen> [VOTE] thewrath for membership
1184
1185 [00:51] <MootBot> Please vote on: thewrath for membership.
1186
1187 [00:51] <MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot
1188
1189 [00:51] <MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting
1190
1191 [00:51] <cprofitt> +1
1192
1193 [00:51] <MootBot> +1 received from cprofitt. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1
1194
1195 [00:51] <sdennie> +1
1196
1197 [00:51] <MootBot> +1 received from sdennie. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2
1198
1199 [00:51] <nhandler> +1
1200
1201 [00:51] <bodhi_zazen> +1
1202
1203 [00:51] <MootBot> +1 received from nhandler. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3
1204
1205 [00:51] <MootBot> +1 received from bodhi_zazen. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4
1206
1207 [00:51] <swoody_> +1
1208
1209 [00:51] <MootBot> +1 received from swoody_. 5 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 5
1210
1211 [00:51] <Bodsda> +1
1212
1213 [00:51] <bgs100> +1
1214
1215 [00:51] <ds305> +1
1216
1217 [00:51] <MootBot> +1 received from Bodsda. 6 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 6
1218
1219 [00:51] <Rocket2DMn> +1
1220
1221 [00:51] <MootBot> +1 received from bgs100. 7 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 7
1222
1223 [00:51] <jamesrfla> +1
1224
1225 [00:51] <Hellow> +1
1226
1227 [00:51] <MootBot> +1 received from ds305. 8 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 8
1228
1229 [00:51] <MootBot> +1 received from Rocket2DMn. 9 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 9
1230
1231 [00:51] <jgoguen> +1
1232
1233 [00:52] <zu22> +1
1234
1235 [00:52] <MootBot> +1 received from jamesrfla. 10 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 10
1236
1237 [00:52] <PartyBoi2> +1
1238
1239 [00:52] <MootBot> +1 received from Hellow. 11 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 11
1240
1241 [00:52] <duanedes1gn> +1
1242
1243 [00:52] <Vantrax> +1
1244
1245 [00:52] <MootBot> +1 received from jgoguen. 12 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 12
1246
1247 [00:52] <MootBot> +1 received from zu22. 13 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 13
1248
1249 [00:52] <MootBot> +1 received from PartyBoi2. 14 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 14
1250
1251 [00:52] <MootBot> +1 received from duanedes1gn. 15 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 15
1252
1253 [00:52] <MootBot> +1 received from Vantrax. 16 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 16
1254
1255 [00:52] <zu22> +1
1256
1257 [00:52] <bodhi_zazen> [ENDVOTE]
1258
1259 [00:52] <MootBot> Final result is 16 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 16
1260
1261 [00:52] <Vantrax> lol zu22 dont vote twice:P
1262
1263 [00:52] <bgs100> Wow
1264
1265 [00:52] <bodhi_zazen> Welcome thewrath
1266
1267 [00:52] <duanedes1gn> wow
1268
1269 [00:52] <zu22> lol sorry my session is lagging bad
1270
1271 [00:52] <Bodsda> Congrats thewrath
1272
1273 [00:52] <jamesrfla> Welcome thewrath
1274
1275 [00:52] <bodhi_zazen> OK, last member
1276
1277 [00:52] <bgs100> That was unanimous
1278
1279 [00:52] <Hellow> lol
1280
1281 [00:52] <bodhi_zazen> Ash R
1282
1283 [00:52] <Bodsda> bodhi_zazen: he is not here
1284
1285 [00:53] <bodhi_zazen> neither of them could make it
1286
1287 [00:53] <Hellow> bodhi_zazen: What is his IRC nick?
1288
1289 [00:53] <Vantrax> we can vote with them absent
1290
1291 [00:53] <nhandler> thewrath: Be sure to send me your LP nick
1292
1293 [00:53] <bodhi_zazen> both spoke to me b4 the meeting
1294
1295 [00:53] <thewrath> okay nhandler
1296
1297 [00:53] <duanedes1gn> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ash%20R
1298
1299 [00:53] <bodhi_zazen> Anyone wish to speak on AshR ?
1300
1301 [00:53] <bodhi_zazen> Thank you duanedes1gn
1302
1303 [00:54] <bodhi_zazen> IMO AshR has been awesome :)
1304
1305 [00:54] <Hellow> I barely know AshR
1306
1307 [00:54] <cprofitt> +1 bodhi_zazen
1308
1309 [00:54] <swoody_> bodhi_zazen +1
1310
1311 [00:54] <Bodsda> I like the guy/girl -- +1
1312
1313 [00:54] <ibuclaw> he's British, so he gets my vote :P
1314
1315 [00:54] <bodhi_zazen> [VOTE] AshR for membership
1316
1317 [00:54] <MootBot> Please vote on: AshR for membership.
1318
1319 [00:54] <MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot
1320
1321 [00:54] <MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting
1322
1323 [00:54] <Vantrax> I havent really see ashr, seems nice tho
1324
1325 [00:54] <bodhi_zazen> +1
1326
1327 [00:54] <MootBot> +1 received from bodhi_zazen. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1
1328
1329 [00:54] <nhandler> +0
1330
1331 [00:54] <PartyBoi2> +1
1332
1333 [00:54] <cprofitt> +1
1334
1335 [00:54] <MootBot> Abstention received from nhandler. 1 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 1
1336
1337 [00:54] <MootBot> +1 received from PartyBoi2. 2 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 2
1338
1339 [00:54] <Snova> +1
1340
1341 [00:54] <ibuclaw> +1
1342
1343 [00:54] <Hellow> +0
1344
1345 [00:54] <Bodsda> +1
1346
1347 [00:54] <MootBot> +1 received from cprofitt. 3 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 3
1348
1349 [00:54] <swoody_> +1
1350
1351 [00:54] <Rocket2DMn> +1
1352
1353 [00:54] <jamesrfla> +1
1354
1355 [00:54] <MootBot> +1 received from Snova. 4 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 4
1356
1357 [00:54] <tim_sharitt> +1
1358
1359 [00:54] <ds305> +1
1360
1361 [00:54] <Vantrax> +0
1362
1363 [00:54] <MootBot> +1 received from ibuclaw. 5 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 5
1364
1365 [00:54] <MootBot> Abstention received from Hellow. 5 for, 0 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now 5
1366
1367 [00:54] <jgoguen> +1
1368
1369 [00:54] <MootBot> +1 received from Bodsda. 6 for, 0 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now 6
1370
1371 [00:54] <MootBot> +1 received from swoody_. 7 for, 0 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now 7
1372
1373 [00:54] <MootBot> +1 received from Rocket2DMn. 8 for, 0 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now 8
1374
1375 [00:54] <MootBot> +1 received from jamesrfla. 9 for, 0 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now 9
1376
1377 [00:55] <jamesrfla> Lag
1378
1379 [00:55] <MootBot> +1 received from tim_sharitt. 10 for, 0 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now 10
1380
1381 [00:55] <duanedes1gn> +0
1382
1383 [00:55] <MootBot> +1 received from ds305. 11 for, 0 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now 11
1384
1385 [00:55] <MootBot> Abstention received from Vantrax. 11 for, 0 against. 3 have abstained. Count is now 11
1386
1387 [00:55] <Joeb454> WOW - 45s lag - I missed the entire vote
1388
1389 [00:55] <MootBot> +1 received from jgoguen. 12 for, 0 against. 3 have abstained. Count is now 12
1390
1391 [00:55] <MootBot> Abstention received from duanedes1gn. 12 for, 0 against. 4 have abstained. Count is now 12
1392
1393 [00:55] <bodhi_zazen> [ENDVOTE]
1394
1395 [00:55] <MootBot> Final result is 12 for, 0 against. 4 abstained. Total: 12
1396
1397 [00:55] <zu22> +0
1398
1399 [00:55] <zu22> doh
1400
1401 [00:55] <bodhi_zazen> We have 5 minutes
1402
1403 [00:55] <jgoguen> lol
1404
1405 [00:55] <bgs100> zu22, Fail
1406
1407 [00:55] <bodhi_zazen> Other issues ?
1408
1409 [00:55] <zu22> bgs100: heh
1410
1411 [00:55] * Bodsda thinks we should have a team song
1412
1413 [00:55] <bodhi_zazen> Next meeting, 2 weeks
1414
1415 [00:56] <swoody_> Bodsda +1
1416
1417 [00:56] <cprofitt> shall we move the FG lead vote to our channel or table til next meeting?
1418
1419 [00:56] <Vantrax> bodhi_zazen: FG Lead in channel after?
1420
1421 [00:56] <nhandler> Sounds good bodhi_zazen. I'll update the calendars
1422
1423 [00:56] <bgs100> Bodsda, ROFL
1424
1425 [00:56] <bodhi_zazen> Agenda next meeting - FG leads ?
1426
1427 [00:56] <bodhi_zazen> I do not think we should have an ad-hoc meeting on FG leads now
1428
1429 [00:56] <nhandler> +1 bodhi_zazen
1430
1431 [00:56] <Vantrax> everyone is here
1432
1433 [00:56] <cprofitt> ok... then table it until next time... that is fine with me...
1434
1435 [00:56] <bodhi_zazen> The wiki FG is meeting
1436
1437 [00:57] <Vantrax> ahh
1438
1439 [00:57] <Bodsda> right, im off to bed guys -- almost 1am here -- im +1 for listed fg leads and +0 for any changes
1440
1441 [00:57] <Vantrax> good point
1442
1443 [00:57] <bodhi_zazen> and as people feel there was not enough discussion we need to set a time
1444
1445 [00:57] <zu22> gtg cya
1446
1447 [00:57] <bodhi_zazen> People are leaving after this meeting
1448
1449 [00:57] <bodhi_zazen> see ^^
1450
1451 [00:57] <bodhi_zazen> so, it is not "fair" to proceed IMO
1452
1453 [00:57] <Bodsda> guess i can stay for a sec
1454
1455 [00:58] <Rocket2DMn> we're basically out of time
1456
1457 [00:58] <jamesrfla> bodhi_zazen: might as well just end the meeting
1458
1459 [00:58] <bodhi_zazen> Other issues ?
1460
1461 [00:58] <nhandler> Nope
1462
1463 [00:58] * Bodsda still thinks we need a song
1464
1465 [00:58] <bgs100> Is the meeting officially over?
1466
1467 [00:58] <bodhi_zazen> [ENDMEETING]
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