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   1 [03:00] <pleia2> ok, meeting time!
   2 [03:00] <eps> Much mo' bettah.
   3 [03:00] <pleia2> jdeslip and DarkwingDuck couldn't make it because they ended up having other obligations tonight
   4 [03:01] <pleia2> so who all is here for the meeting?
   5 [03:01]  * eps raises his hand cautiously
   6 [03:01] <pleia2> ok, our agenda is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/10December19
   7 [03:02] <jyo> o/
   8 [03:02] <jtatum> i/
   9 [03:02] <pleia2> first up, any announcements?
  10 [03:02] <pleia2> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-california shows that we have a lindependence hour coming up on the 29th
  11 [03:03] <pleia2> erichammond has done a good job getting things rolling for SCaLE in Feburary, we now have a wiki page and a discount code: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Scale9x
  12 [03:03] <pleia2> we'll probably firm up SCaLE plans in the next few weeks
  13 [03:04] <akk> o/
  14 [03:04] <pleia2> ok, on to the agenda
  15 [03:05] <pleia2> [topic] Website Updates
  16 [03:05] <pleia2> I made some changes this week and I think we're ready to launch the basic site :)
  17 [03:05] <pleia2> to view the demo site, edit your /etc/hosts file and put this at the end:
  18 [03:06] <pleia2> 207.192.72.66 ubuntu-california.org
  19 [03:06] <pleia2> we pretty much took the text from the wiki and fleshed out a very basic home page, and in the top we link to all our current resources
  20 [03:06] <pleia2> once we get a photo gallery, planet, etc, we'll add the links, but I think we're ready with the basics
  21 [03:07] <grantbow> \o/
  22 [03:07] <pleia2> regarding the planet (blog aggregation), I spoke with dragon and we're going to be just going with some basic Venus software on the linode so jtatum and I will look into that in the coming weeks
  23 [03:07] <akk> Looks nice!
  24 [03:08] <pleia2> no update for photos, we don't have a google apps option for that so our options right now seem like: gallery2, picasaweb, flickr
  25 [03:08] <pleia2> maybe we should bring this discussion to the list?
  26 [03:08] <pleia2> this discussion == photo options
  27 [03:08] <grantbow> sounds good
  28 [03:08] <akk> +1 for discussing on ML
  29 [03:09] <pleia2> ok, I'll send an email out (if not tonight, tomorrow)
  30 [03:09] <akk> Unless anyone has any strong opinions right now, anyway.
  31 [03:10] <pleia2> well, that's it for website updates :)
  32 [03:10] <pleia2> I think I'll nudge erichammond tomorrow to update DNS so we can go live
  33 [03:10] <jtatum> excellent
  34 [03:11] <jtatum> thanks for keeping up the momentum pleia2!
  35 [03:11] <pleia2> currently grantbow, jtatum and myself have access to wordpress, if others are interested in participating please let me know
  36 [03:11] <pleia2> sure thing :)
  37 [03:11] <pleia2> [topic] More t-shirts?
  38 [03:11] <grantbow> I'll talk to you about wordpress later
  39 [03:11] <pleia2> grantbow: ok
  40 [03:12] <pleia2> so, we are almost out of team t-shirts, we have some 2XLs and a few women's sizes left, but we need to order more, we're out of the sizes people actually want
  41 [03:12] <pleia2> grantbow contacted our previous supplier but he's quite busy, so not an option this time around
  42 [03:12] <pleia2> Jono recommended steadfastprinting.com in Oakland
  43 [03:13] <pleia2> today on the mailing list Christian said he knows the owner of greenerpromotions.net in San Francisco and offered to get us a quote
  44 [03:13] <pleia2> anyone have other contacts?
  45 [03:15] <pleia2> I'm thinking we get a few quotes and then go from there (I'm probably bankrolling this, and will accept donations to help, so let me know if you want to pitch in)
  46 [03:16] <pleia2> that's all we've got agenda-wise tonight
  47 [03:16] <eps> Are there any print-on-demand services worth considering?
  48 [03:16] <grantbow> eps: suggestions?
  49 [03:17] <eps> CafePress et al.
  50 [03:17] <pleia2> I've never bought from zazzle or cafepress, so I don't have any suggestions
  51 [03:17] <pleia2> they are considerably more expensive (at least 3 times more than buying in bulk of 50-100 shirts)
  52 [03:17] <eps> Don't get me wrong - I'm a huge fan of traditional printing - but I'm concerned we aren't going to be able to put together an order large enough to get a good price.
  53 [03:18] <grantbow> cafe press was fairly expensive
  54 [03:18] <grantbow> haven
  55 [03:18] <pleia2> I think zazzle is something like $20/shirt
  56 [03:18] <akk> I've always heard bad things about cafepress's quality.
  57 [03:18] <akk> That they're okay if you really need a one-off but not something you'd use for a bulk run where you have a choice.
  58 [03:18] <pleia2> I figure we'll put in an order of 50 shirts, and at local shops we can get that for about $8/shirt
  59 [03:18] <pleia2> but we should get quotes to be more precise :)
  60 [03:19] <eps> My experience with t-shirts -- granted, this was a *long* time ago -- was that you generally needed to order at least 8 dozen to make it worthwhile.
  61 [03:19] <pleia2> jono said he ordered 50 for severed fifth for about $400
  62 [03:20] <pleia2> so maybe we get some estimates, and then compare them to the on-demand printing services?
  63 [03:20] <eps> Set-up charges dominate on small runs.
  64 [03:22] <pleia2> ok, any other meeting things to talk about?
  65 [03:23] <eps> With screen printing, you need to decide if you want something that will survive multiple washings and exposure to sunlight.
  66 [03:23] <pleia2> jono seemed pretty happy with steadfast, and we can ask christian about the quality of greenrpromotions
  67 [03:24] <eps> (i.e. are you dyeing the fabric vs. having something sitting on top that will flake off)
  68 [03:25] <pleia2> seems like the current ones have something sitting on top, but I haven't noticed any flaking yet
  69 [03:28] <pleia2> ok, if no one has anything else I think we wrap this up :)
  70 [03:29] <pleia2> thanks for coming