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  • Scott James Remnant (Keybuk) - chair
  • Jonathan Riddell (Riddell)
  • Kenneth Wimer (kwwii)
  • Martin Pitt (pitti)
  • Matthew Paul Thomas (mpt)
  • Michael Vogt (mvo)
  • Mirco Müller (MacSlow)

  • Sebastien Bacher (seb128)
  • Ted Gould (tedg)
  • Pedro Villavicencio Garrido (pedro_)
  • Celeste Lyn Paul (seele)


Outstanding actions from last meeting

  • MacSlow to update clutter to appropriate version, not worrying about parallel install:

    • Package in PPA, but not yet suitable for upload, so still outstanding.
  • seele to follow up with Jono about usability testing swag:
    • No reply from Jono.
  • MacSlow to merge gimp, and other GTK+ applications and libraries.

    • Doing so.

Actions from this meeting

  • MacSlow to update clutter to appropriate version, not worrying about parallel install

  • seele to follow up with Jono about usability testing swag
  • MacSlow to merge goffice, seb128 to help him understand what's going on

Problems with merging goffice

MacSlow has encountered problems whilst merging goffice, which is needed for gnumeric. The package was modified in Ubuntu to build different variants for Ubuntu and Xubuntu, whilst in Debian debug packages have been added.

seb128 seemed to know about the changes, so was asked to help MacSlow with the merge.

Intrepid Specs

Jonathan Riddell (Riddell)

Kenneth Wimer (kwwii)

  • New Control Theme.
  • New Window Manager Theme.
  • New Usplash Theme.
  • Someone else working on OOo icons, which Ken will aid and co-ordinate (maybe not for Intrepid)

Martin Pitt (pitti)

Michael Vogt (mvo)

  • packagekit-intrepid, though glatzor and pitti working on that too

  • compiz-intrepid mostly tweaks, unless we want to use the glxclip plugin and not wait for dri2

  • kernel-abi-package-handling, the apt bits are tricky with the two dimensional design that is proposed, especially because it looks like the aptitude and smart resolver need to be modified too (smart for landscape love)

  • upgrade-testing-in-the-sandbox, I would like to give people the ability to clone there machine into a VM and run a upgrade test there

  • some improvements to the auto upgrade tester: libvirt and snapshots for better debgging of failures

Mirco Müller (MacSlow)

Ted Gould (tedg)

Sebastien Bacher (seb128)

Activity reports

Jonathan Riddell (Riddell)


  • mostly packaging KDE 4.1 beta 2
  • advising/helping community with their backport of 4.1 beta 2 to hardy
  • final merges
  • a couple hours of archive admin
  • playing with seeds, still some bits to work out for an installable kubuntu-desktop


  • 1 main inclusion report still needing review
  • Kubuntu website

Next week:

  • hardy .1?

No milestoned bugs

Kenneth Wimer (kwwii)

* finished stage 2 of the murrine theme. The input box bg is quite dark in order to work around bugs in firefox preferences and other wierd widgets.

  • finished first stage of a new metacity theme. The buttons are not really ready and I'd liek to somehow show the "clickable" area better (to make moving the windows easier).
  • Packaged all of this for intrepid (ubuntu-artwork as well to set the defaults). Removed the dependency on ubuntulooks and included a legacy light-colored theme based on murrine as well. Also made a PPA out of the above for hardy...screenshot of theme attached

PPA available at https://launchpad.net/~kwwii/+archive

  • wallpaper ideas until now attached...nothing far enough along to really present, but some ideas nontheless Smile :-)

  • looked into two ideas for usplash refresh

Martin Pitt (pitti)

Holiday reminder: I will be on vacation from Friday to next Tuesday.

Intrepid specs I am drafting:

  • intrepid-device-permissions, consolidate-spell-checkers, kernel-abi-package-handling, jockey-printer-driver-support: to be reviewed by Scott
  • drafting: guest account (still waiting for upstream feedback)

Currently open milestoned bugs (8.04.1): None


  • Done: libnjb
  • All done, except for belocs-locales-bin, which is a poinless merge (tiny FTBFS NMU, but it builds fine on intrepid); I'm going to ignore this one, unless someone wants me to do it for the purpose of cleaning the MoM list

Other non-chores work this week:

  • Played with PackageKit, updated to latest version, made it work on Intrepid, uploaded; I also sent the patches upstream and got upstream git commit access (4 h)

  • Fought with PolicyKit to use it from Python programs (which is not obvious due to not having Python bindings for libpolkit{,-auth}.). I understand it now. (4 h)

  • Split Jockey into a system D-BUS backend (PolicyKit controlled) and an unprivileged UI. This gets rid of some nasty hacks in the code, makes it much more portable, and paves the way for the killall-gksudo and jockey-printer-driver-support specs. (25 h)

  • jockey-printer-driver-support: Discussed shared implementation of local printer detection and openprinting.org driver query with Tim Waugh, in a split-out library from system-config-printer. Found out that he already implemented most of it. Had an initial look, stuff looks mostly good. Will work further with him to get it perfect for our purposes. I plan to package it, and integrate it into Jockey in the next two weeks. (1 h)
  • Scrutinized Dustin's ecryptfs mount suid program (1 h)

Matthew Paul Thomas (mpt)

Michael Vogt (mvo)


  • kino, xaos, valgrind, wdiff, pan, tiff, mutt, hdparm, ppp, dash,lzma,taglib,swig1.3,bzip2,acpi,gettext,anacron,opensp,recode, radvd,rarian,powernowd
  • help/mentor MacSlow with his merges/packaging

  • cleaned my sponsoring queue (tomboy, apt-build,packagekit, packagekit-gnome,gnome-apt,pbuilder)
  • update python-support (after mail from josslin)


  • review apt https patches
  • look how the Pkg-Series implementation could be done, did some prototyping for simple cases, no good solution yet. tricky


  • fix crash when the admin group can not be added
  • Test/sru/upload fix for sparc dapper->hardy upgrades (#239458)

  • upload sru for hardy
  • implemented auto-detection of desktop/server mode based on the installed stuff (server mode in update-manager behaves slightly differently as it is more relaxed with metapackages, i.e. it does not enforce them to be installed, desktop mode will add missing metapackages)
  • review debian update-manager branch and merge some changes
  • work on process seperation branch, still in the early stages
  • add hardy->intrepid autoupgrade tester profile (and update the docu on how to build base-images with the latest jeos-builder)


  • mail/bug triage
  • mentoring/sponsoring
  • merge glade-2 and make it work with latest gtk+ again
  • fix missing libc6 dependency on findutils so that upgrades go smooth from hardy to intrepid (with the help of cjwatson, #234234)
  • review available desktop backup solutions
  • switched my mail provider

Mirco Müller (MacSlow)



  • got to setup and learn pbuilder tool for merge work (setup environments for distro-series hardy and intrepid)
  • gtkglext: worked on merge only to find out that seb128 was faster Smile :)

  • planner: merged from debian unstable to intrepid, got some help from mvo, needed patch also sent to debian-maintainer and planner upstream (gnome-bugzilla)
  • gnome-pilot-conduits: worked on merge, but somebody from the community was faster
  • goffice/gnumeric: trying to merge, newest goffice is needed for gnumeric under intrepid, several issues with goffice (debian/rules) not finished yet, need some help
  • gnome-netstatus: merged from debian unstable to intrepid


  • put cairo-clock 0.3.4 into PPA for intrepid https://edge.launchpad.net/~macslow/+archive

  • preformance-review phone-call
  • desktop-experience phone-call
  • some travel preparations for GUADEC'08, distro-sprint
  • helped kwwii setting up and using PPAs so he can provide theme/engine-previews from intrepid also under hardy


  • continue with sparkle implementation (as time permits)
  • assigned bugs: 130441, 141432, 147966, 151395 (milestoned), 152844, 164670, 200146, 206809, 144472, 152271 (milestoned)

Sebastien Bacher (seb128)

  • lot of desktop bugs triage
  • GTK 2.13 update
  • other GNOME updates
  • archive admin tasks
  • merges
  • some 8.04.1 updates

Ted Gould (tedg)


  • network-account-profiles-*
  • power-management-settings


  • Most time spent moving (vacation), for most people that means that my timezone is now -5 instead of previously being -7.
  • Travel for London sprint.
  • 401K meeting
  • Desktop experience meeting


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