DesktopTeam/Meeting/2008-07-24

2008-07-24

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Present

Scott James Remnant (Keybuk) - chair
Jonathan Riddell (Riddell)
Kenneth Wimer (kwwii)
Martin Pitt (pitti)
Michael Vogt (mvo)
Mirco Müller (MacSlow)
Sebastien Bacher (seb128)
Colin Watson (cjwatson)

Apologies

Matthew Paul Thomas (mpt) - LP 2.0
Ted Gould (tedg) - OSCON
Pedro Villavicencio Garrido (pedro_) - Holiday

Agenda

Outstanding actions from last meeting
Proxy setting location (mvo)
Integration of guest login (pitti)
Default theme in Intrepid (pitti)
Sponsoring Overview update
Review activity reports
Any other business

Outstanding actions from last meeting

Matthew to follow up with upstream about UI improvements in new user admin tool.
- not present, so carried over

Actions from this meeting

Matthew to follow up with upstream about UI improvements in new user admin tool.

Proxy setting location

mvo asks what is the best canonical place for a proxy config? /etc/apt/apt.conf is what the installer sets and what the current implemented of the system-service reads/writes, but it should probably also do something in the global environment, like /etc/environment or /etc/profile.

The concern about /etc/environment was that it's not intended to be a shell script, it's a configuration file that just happens to look like one. The locale setting had moved to /etc/default/locale because gdm did not use pam_getenv.

The issue of another conf file was that it was another file to be sourced by shells.

Consensus was to use /etc/environment

Integration of guest login

pitti asked where, other than the fast-user-switch appplet, the option to open a new guest login should appear. Various options were suggested, including the logout dialog and the gdmflexiserver list.

No clear consensus appeared in the meeting.

Default theme in Intrepid

pitti asked which theme would be the default for intrepid, kwwii clarified that the default would be a lighter theme. In either case, users would not be changed from a light theme to a dark one.

Activity reports

Jonathan Riddell (Riddell)

done:

Adding Rosetta support to KDE 4, now blocked on cdbs
Fix cmake to include ccmake and cmake-gui
Various Ubiquity fixes for the KDE frontend
Testing CDs for Alpha 3
Discussing KOffice 2 packaging with community packagers
Fix various recommends to make CDs fit (thanks to slangasek for arts patch)
Remove unused SVG icons from kdebase, saves 40 Megs of space

done at sprint:

Investigate and package kpackagekit, works surprisingly well
Investigate kpolicykit, works less well
Test webkitkde and discuss with upstream, unlikely to be ready for intrepid
Fix some package Recommends to stop bringing in dbg packages to CDs
Package knetworkmanager 0.7, works well. Write MIR for dbus-1-qt3
Remove system-config-printer-kde applet, now in KDE
Investigate what needs done to turn on compositing by default for kwin
Discuss kdesudo with Tonio
Various e-mails about KDE in Bzr
Test and sync new openbabel
Make sure default wallpaper is on the CD
Meeting about better Rosetta integration with upstream
Various fixes to guidance-power-manager

blocked:

openbabel MIR (for kdeedu)
libzip MIR (for kdeutils)
dvipdfmx MIR (for cdbs, for Rosetta with KDE 4)
dbus-1-qt3 MIR (for network-manager 0.7)

todo:

KDE 4.1 final next week

No milestoned bugs

Kenneth Wimer (kwwii)

worked on final version of dark theme
made 5 a day icon
made debian birthday party banner, discussed with mattew nuzum
made inkscape daily build icon
finished web browser icon and other pics
3/4s finished making time zone map for installer. Quite a large and complicated job, no wonder nobody else has done it before.

Martin Pitt (pitti)

Assigned Intrepid specs:

intrepid-device-permissions Dropped audio, video, dip, floppy groups, dropped user fingerprint reader access from hal. The rest is unfortunately harder to do, see spec update
jockey-printer-driver-support fixed s-c-p is in the archive, jockey backend can fully detect printer drivers now; some UI bits are still missing
gdm-guest-account
- decided for intrepid approach, updated spec
- tinkered with both "hack gdm" and "do everything from scratch" approches, both are very hard unfortunately; I have a halfway working prototype script now which sets up a guest session

Currently open milestoned bugs:

- Intrepid: #224697 (Disable hibernation if swap is on file), #232428
- (guile 1.6 -> 1.8 transition): will do later, specs go first

Other work done:

Fixed up the new jockey for Intrepid alpha 3, should work now for the new nvidia driver structure; fglrx *should* work, but untested
Various bug fixes in hal and cups
Lots of mentoring of Alberto (tseliot) and Stefano (tacone)
Various discussions and hacks at the sprint; didn't keep track of everything

Matthew Paul Thomas (mpt)

Michael Vogt (mvo)

A short week for me, I spent monday in bed with a nasty feverish cold and I'm still not 100% normal (but almost and feeling a bit weak.

alpha-3:

update/review/upload command-not-found-data to current intrepid
update/review/upload app-installdata to current intrepid
Work on ddtp translations update for intrepid (but rosetta is
- giving me a hard time, some discussions with Jerome too about it)

update-manager:

integrate automatic nvidia pkg module detection into update-manager
- so that on hardy->intrepid the right new package gets installed (together with tseliot and pitti), is in the "better-nvidia-support" update-manager branch

system-wide-preferences:

implement policykit based dbus backend in
- lp:~mvo/system-service/system-service (not complete yet, but working)
add simple UI patch to gnome-control-center to make use of the
- new backend (needs more polish)

misc:

bug triage
mail catchup
test new libmesa on ati r500 (mixed success, compiz does not
- run for me yet)
review/merge python-apt fixes from Emanuele Rocca
triage/bugfix run over gdebi bugs
hacking on the clone-to-vm script, had success booting into
- a cloned system to do upgrade testing
merged some fixes from bdmurray (thanks Brian!)

Mirco Müller (MacSlow)

packaging official 0.8 release of clutter, clutter-cairo, clutter-gtk, clutter-gst for hardy and intrepid, put in my ppa and handed over for
upload-sponsoring (https://edge.launchpad.net/~macslow/+archive)
started using clutter's support for .json file-format as theme-description for gdm
identified and reported bug regarding non-working relative sizes in .json UI-descriptions, if used in conjunction with clutter-gtk-embed widget, possible workaround known
(http://bugzilla.o-hand.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1042) needed for themes adapting to different screen-resolutions and aspect-ratios
identified and reported bug of missing motion-events, if using clutter-gtk-embed widget (all handled via IRC), now fixed upstream and part of made packages
wrote text-filter and text-highlighting for login- and real-name entry
wrote digital-clock display, format can be themed in .json-file
updated spec-page with ogg/theora video of new design from UDS-Prague
discussion with gdm-upstream (William Jon McCann) about the new gdm-design, best practices and integration work for the "login-experience" at GUADEC'08
drew graphical elements (buttons, icons, background) for "login-experience" based on SVG-mockup provided by kwwii