2009-01-27

For minutes of previous meetings, please see DesktopTeam/Meeting.

Present

  • Rick Spencer (rickspencer3) - chair
  • Alexander Sack (asac)
  • Arne Goetje (ArneGoetje)

  • Bryce Harrington (bryce)
  • Chris Cheney (calc)
  • Jonathan Riddell (Riddell)
  • Martin Pitt (pitti)
  • Sebastien Bacher (seb128)

Apologies

  • Till Kamppeter (tkamppeter)

Agenda

  • Outstanding actions from last meeting
  • sprint topics
  • Add/Remove...
  • Pet bug status
  • Language selector
  • Release Status
  • Review activity reports
  • Any other business

Outstanding actions from last meeting

  • Action: ArneGoetje, Seb128, all: set specs to "pending approval" so that Martin can sign off/provide feedback if still not done.

    • Result Arne: moved spec to pending just before the meeting. pitti to review asap
    • Result asac: NM spec doesn't really have an implementer, so will link to bugs and set to pending reviews
  • Action: bryce: tag 10 pet bugs
    • Result: has tagged pet bugs
  • Action: rickspencer3: follow up on status of meeting attendance. What action, if any, is necessary for people to start signing up and attending?
    • Result: Ensure that your attendance is recorded on the conference attendance wiki. These will most likely be mass Ok's at upcoming managers' meeting. If you need to get it done before, ping line manager or randa.
  • Action: rickspencer3: provide Jane and Chris community/team feedback regarding Add/Remove... renaming.
    • Result: Bounced back decision to rickspencer3.
  • Action: seb128: Get new GDM into universe this week.
    • Result: Done
  • Action: rickspencer3: consolidate list of sprint topics, send to all along with other scheduled topics.
    • Result: see internal sprint wiki

Actions from this meeting

  • ACTION: rickspencer3 to follow up on status of security review for MIR
  • ACTION: rickspencer3 to work with mvo/robbiew to get the work for Language selector done for Jaunty, community involvement?
    • Result: discussed with robbiew. Decision was that mvo will finish up his part asap. Post Jaunty it will be owned by the desktop team.
  • ACTION: pitti to discuss costs and requirements of graphical non-X based installers with cjwatson
  • ACTION: pitti/asac to respond to MIR for Riddel/Kubuntu
  • ACTION: rickspencer3 to compile spec work status and resend
    • Result: Done, see below

Sprint Topics

  • Dx: Get a couple of their things working
    • Topics ready? Bug workshop?

Add/Remove...

  • Rick thinks we should focus on this holistically in Jaunty +1
  • General agreement that there is no great name to change Add/Remove... to that conforms to requirements identified in the last meeting.
  • rickspencer3 will propose a more holistic approach to this problem in Jaunty +1 via blueprint and UDS. ../../../SoftwareLibrary

Pet Bug Status

  • A few team members have started to fix pet bugs.
  • rickspencer3 encouraged team to work on these and work together to make time for them, as it is meant to be a benefit of Jaunty cycle that there is time to work on these.

Language selector

  • mvo wants to move responsibility to our team, can anyone help Arne with it in Jaunty?
  • no one on the desktop team has the bandwidth to pick this up. rickspencer3 will discuss with robbiew and mvo. Also, the idea of inviting a community member to participate was brought up.

Release Status

  • As an experiment in tracking status on feature work, everyone sent in an update on individual specification work items:

who

done

postponed

started

blocked

not started

total

Riddell

4

0

4

7

9

24

asac

2

1

2

0

3

8

bryce

4

0

5

1

2

12

calc

2

0

3

1

1

7

pitti

3

2

1

4

6

16

seb128

1

0

1

2

1

5

ArneGoetje

0

0

0

0

1

1

16

3

16

15

23

73

  • Note that most "blocked" items refer to work items for helping other teams with certain tasks, and those teams have not yet asked for that help. Therefore, blocked status is not necessarily bad.
  • Note that this list only includes work captured in blueprints. Normal maintainer work, bugs, etc... are not captured here.
  • The full list is here

gtk directfb

  • directfb is no longer supported by upstream. It is buggy and very time consuming to build.
  • Nothing in Ubuntu currently depends on it.
  • The server team would like to use GTK d-i graphical installer for 9.04, which does depend on directfb.
  • Making this work and taking on maintenance will be very expensive.
  • pitti to follow up with Colin to discuss the costs and the requirements.

MIRs

  • Riddell reports that some of his work is blocked by hold ups in main inclusion process. This includes hold ups in security reviews as well as general hold ups with ~ubuntu-mir.
  • rickspencer3 to follow up with security team.
  • asac and pitti to work on MIR queue

Activity reports

Alexander Sack (asac)

Mozilla

  • Backport and get review on patches required for libnotify to 1.9.0 branch without breaking ABI
  • Initiate Major Change request for libnotify; reciped confirmed
  • Packaged and sent out ffox 3.0.6 QA builds enter beta; uploaded to ~ubuntu-mozilla-security PPA
  • 1.8.1.21 release almost enters beta upstream; two patches to land before we can tag; for 1.8.0 branch I started to assemble the next release patchset
  • catch up on upstream bugmail
  • develop first patch to fix pyxpcom using the standalone glue
  • 1st fix attempt for thunderbird threading behaviour on bugmail; submitted upstream; probably needs a more complex fix though: LP: #320034
  • talked to Martin Mai about bug procedures for firefox; based on his feedback I updated the MozillaTeam/Bugs/Procedures wiki page.

NetworkManager

  • work on modemmanager enabled network-manager; allmost all bits are done; needs some final testing before uploading to ubuntu.
  • running ppp 2.4.5; next talk to debian.
  • talk to dcbw about connection policies and more control for users; mixed outcome: more control for users, yes. old connection policy: no.
  • started to reimplement the AT command sequence used by f3507g modemmanager plugin in a clean fashion, so we can get this into modemmanager main tree at some point. The Ericsson provided bits are unlikely to ever make it into the archive nor upstream (my guess).
  • fixing Dell Mini Setup; reconfirm long dely during connect for f3507g modem.

Misc

  • processing a few MIR bugs
  • cleanup $HOME partition; elminated ~80G of cruft
  • working on DesktopTeam/Specs/Jaunty/DesktopNetworkChanging

Arne Goetje (ArneGoetje)

Bryce Harrington (bryce)

Distro Work

  • Sponsoring: inkscape (#321079), gnumeric (#317368), mdadm (#314991)
  • Experimented with gnuplot

Xorg Work

  • Workaround launchpadlib bug #254901, update automated scripts to tag
    • new bugs with needed files
  • Conceptualized additional points where apport could be plugged into
    • x-server (e.g. "no valid modes" errors, "EQ overflow" inf loops, etc.)
  • Worked on my bzr tree of launchpadlib scripts
  • Triaging for xorg-server and xorg bugs
  • Triaging for xkeyboard-config, fixed/upstreamed bunch of bugs, finally
    • got it down below 50 bugs now. Smile :-)

  • Merged xterm 239, reviewed all xterm bugs, closed over half as fixed
  • Worked on various assigned bugs, bugs with patches, etc.

Misc

  • Off Jan 19 (national holiday)
  • Off Jan 20, 21 due to family emergency

2-week Plan

  • xorg.conf Backup/Recovery work
  • XSmoke testing
  • Help Alberto get xorg-options-editor into Universe
  • Integrate apport support into bulletproof-x mode
  • Focus on my assigned bugs list, bugs fixed upstream, and bug reports
    • with patches attached.
  • Berlin sprint

Chris Cheney (calc)

  • Working on openoffice.org 1:3.0.1~rc2-2ubuntu1 packaging
  • Tried upgrading to Jaunty but got hit with xorg cpu issue
  • Got bitten by imap folder bug 320198 in Evolution, version in -proposed works and needs propagation
  • Booked flight/train/hotel for Jaunty Sprint and Sun meeting
  • Weekly OOo Release Status Meeting
  • Weekly desktop team meeting
  • Lots of OOo bug triage

Jonathan Riddell (Riddell)

done:

  • packaging KDE 4.2 along with Kubuntu Ninjas team
  • merging and filling in holes in system-config-printer-kde applet
  • split mysql for Amarok, amarok and kontact can now be co-installed
  • archive admin half day

blocked:

  • MIRs for quassel, policykit-kde, packagekit, packagekit-kde

todo:

  • Fix up 4.2
  • Get amarok back into main
  • Fly off to sprint
  • More system-config-printer-kde work

Martin Pitt (pitti)

Progress on assigned blueprints:

  • apport-retracer-maintenance: Implemented integrity check of dup db and creating backup files. Fully implemented now.

Currently open stable/milestoned bugs: none

Done:

  • Worked on dynamic gconf translation handling to claim back ~ 10 MB of live CD space (~ 5 on alternates). Yay for fixing my first pet-bug! (LP #123025)
  • Asked for interested people to do archive management. Improved documentation and started to mentor Scott Kitterman, will start mentoring Jamie Strandboge this week. Sebastien will mentor James Westby.
  • Stepped down from doing regular archive days, too little time for it, and after so much time it is time to pass the buck.
  • Ported gdm patch for having separate password field (for artwork team)
  • Prepared dev week talk, only to accidentally delete it two minutes

    before my talk started. I'm retarded Sad :-(

  • Spec reviews.
  • Lots of phone meetings
  • Apport retracer maintenance; it works pleasingly stable now

Sponsoring:

  • ntfs-3g, sqlite3 (uploaded different fix), gdm-guest-session, consolekit, dontzap, usplash

Sebastien Bacher (seb128)

  • GNOME 2.25.5 updates: eog gnome-desktop gnome-panel gnome-media

libgweather

  • worked on packaging the new gdm which is available in the

ubuntu-desktop ppa now, sent a call for feedback on the desktop-list but got user comments about it yet

  • started a fight against gtk 2.15, nobody is working on the directfb

backend upstream and it's buggier in every version and breaks the build, took a while to get it to build but got it to work and uploaded to jaunty. Do we really need the directfb version in ubuntu and do we have somebody interested to work on it? did the next gtk updates which have been rolled this week to notice that one crashes gdm and the next one crash gnome-panel, didn't upload those, let's see how good is the next tarball

  • hardy sru: gedit (workaround a crasher when using ssh locations)
  • intrepid srus: gvfs, nautilus (backported the jaunty fix for the smb

authentication issues and a fix for a scrollbar issue) and gtk

  • did an openweek presentation on the desktop tem and GNOME updates
  • commented on the evolution-data-server and evolution jaunty updates

which are being worked by a contributor

  • discussed about evolution-mapi and the work to do on it, a

desktop-team contributor started packaging it and the server team will try to give an hand to do testing

  • sponsoring: deskbar-applet, gnome-games, gnome-system-monitor,

nautilus-sendto, vinagre

Till Kamppeter (tkamppeter)

  • Uploaded release candidates 1 and 2 of Ghostscript 8.64
  • Updated system-config-printer to the current 1.1.x GIT snapshot, updated also python-cups
  • Introduced new package python-smbc (Python bindings for libsmbclient) as it is needed by the new system-config-printer
  • Discussed new features for system-config-printer with Tim Waugh
  • Prepared CUPS SRU for bug 303691 and bug 277404 (and also uploaded the changes to Debian CUPS BZR repo)
  • More upstream (and Jaunty) fixes to make CUPS correctly printing documents containing pages with different sizes, on Ghostscript and the PDF-related CUPS filters. Reported Poppler bug https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19777


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