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Meeting Minutes

Present

Main Meeting

• Rick Spencer (rickspencer3) - chair
• Alexander Sack (asac)

• Arne Goetje (ArneGoetje)

• Bryce Harrington (bryce)
• Chris Cheney (calc)
• Jonathan Riddell (Riddell)

• Ken VanDine (kenvandine)

• Martin Pitt (pitti)
• Sebastien Bacher (seb128)
• Till Kamppeter (tkamppeter)
• Tony Espy

Eastern Edition

• Luke Yelavich (TheMuso)

• Robert Ancell (robert_ancell)

Apologies

Agenda

• Outstanding actions from last meeting

Announcements

• pitti: Reminder: do you merges (https://merges.ubuntu.com/main.html)

• pitti: spec status

• Karmic Sprint is in Dublin

Status Updates

• Partner Update
• Kubuntu Update
• Release Bugs/Release Status
• Review activity reports

Discussion

• Paper cut bugs

Any other business

Actions from this meeting

Outstanding actions from last meeting

• ACTION: All - finishing adding work items to white boards by Thursday
• ACTION: All - finish spec drafting by Thursday and set them to "pending approval"
• ACTION: rickspencer3 to ask davidbarth if the DXE team needs help setting up burndown charts
• ACTION: MIR team, please review Kubuntu MIRs
• ACTION: pitti to slurp work items from Kubuntu wiki and integrate into burndown

• ACTION: All - review https://merges.ubuntu.com/main.html and ask pitti for assistance if needed

Karmic Sprint

• Will be in Dublin
• Go ahead and arrange travel
• Check the wiki for all info

Partner Update

Kubuntu Update

X Update

• We are ahead of curve on merges
  • 11 packages need merge/sync, out of 92 updates since Jaunty.
  • 10 packages have upstream releases but not yet in Debian
  • Of these, 4 are high priority (xorg, -fglrx, -nvidia, and -intel).
    • All are in PPAs or git now. Will be uploaded after testing.

  • git snapshots of xserver, -ati/KMS, & -nouveau/KMS are in PPAs

• X.org in Karmic is working well
  • 2107 total open X bugs; this is high but the rate of open growth bugs
    • has leveled off, compared with the post-Jaunty period.
    • -nvidia and -intel are where most bug growth has occurred.
  • Kernel updates have solved nearly all -intel problems on Jaunty.
  • KMS on -intel is ready to switch on by default. -ati / -nouveau WIP.
• xorg-edgers is proving itself, both for testing of various KMS bits,
  • and avoiding potential regressions in proposed updates.[0]. The Intel upstream developers have also been quite pleased with xorg-edgers[1]; if xorg-edgers makes life easier for upstream developers, maybe they'll be recommending ubuntu more often.

  • 0: http://www2.bryceharrington.org:8080/drupal/xorg-edgers

  • 1: http://cworth.org/intel/driver_stability/

• We are also now maintaining two "backport" style PPAs to provide
  • additional support options for past releases like Jaunty:
  • 'x-updates' for upgraded drivers
  • 'x-retro' for downgraded drivers

Activity reports

Alexander Sack (asac)

(two days on holiday)

• finish spec work; add work items (was a bit work intensive)
• update nspr to 4.7.5 in karmic
• update nss to 3.12.3 in karmic; fixed crasher on buildd's caused during lib signing
• respin thunderbird in security PPA using latest nspr/nss in an attempt to fix armel issues
• more tbird + armel discussions
• discussions about VMC and chrom{e,ium} with upstream
• coordinate work split with espy
• some MIR processing
• started to evaluate blueman as an even better replacement for gnome-bluetooth
• prepared evaluation patch for bug 360905 and asked users for testing. Not much feedback yet.

Arne Goetje (ArneGoetje)

• Specs: desktop-karmic-input-methods got approved, desktop-karmic-language-selector-karmic got reviewed by pitti. Fixed the spec according to pitti's suggestions, now waiting for mpt to update his mockup.
• Discussion with ibus upstream about ibus development
• Triaging some of ibus upstream bug reports
• Followed up discussion about font classification with Enrico Zini: since fontconfig cannot reliably determine for which languages a font is acceptable to use for, the idea is now to create a font registry, where font metadata is centrally collected and maintained. Similar to debtags, but font specific.
• Discussions with Launchpad Translations team: translation opening for karmic will be postponed a bit, since Launchpad has some hardware problems with their staging server, so the tests didn't run through. Need to wait until this is fixed and the tests have been completed.
• Trying merge for scim, but FTBFS on my machine. Need to investigate.
• Travel planning for Desktop sprint

Bryce Harrington (bryce)

• Finished up blueprint work
• Testing nouveau + apw's kernel on nvidia and ati hw
• Upgraded an i945 laptop to karmic for more KMS testing
• Help various alpha-2 upgraders with X bugs
• Improved script for summarizing upstreamed UXA bug reports; now
  • displays upstream bug status info that's missing in LP currently.
• Packaged new versions of -fglrx and -nvidia; in my PPA now.
• Worked on scripts to request re-tests for new driver uploads
• Wrote Xorg status report for tues meeting
• Catchup on email from being gone

Chris Cheney (calc)

Jonathan Riddell (Riddell)

Ken VanDine (kenvandine)

Luke Yelavich (TheMuso)

Martin Pitt (pitti)

Karmic spec drafting: all approved

Karmic feature work:

• desktop-karmic-automagic-python-build-system:
  • started test suite, fixed a few bugs uncovered by that, and cleaned up some code
• desktop-karmic-symptom-based-bug-reporting:
  • implemented infrastructure and test cases, basic system works now

• hal deprecation:

  • Improved script to translate hal-info music players to udev rules and info files
  • ported gvfs cdda backend from hal to gudev, patch sent upstream
  • started porting gvfs gphoto backend to gudev (over-the-weekend job, will still take a while)
• gnome-panel speedup: no progress this week

Other work done:

• Added moin parsing to workitems.py, added Kubuntu wiki WIs
• Checked/synced some merges from other people, to help out
• Fought with newer tzdata and Bangladesh breakage, finally got it sorted out, in -updates now

• PolicyKit-1 migration: packaged policykit-1 and policykit-1-gnome, new gnome-disk-utility, and new devicekit-disks; all staged in ubuntu-desktop PPA and karmic NEW now

• Reviewed empathy dependency breakage, updated MIR bug; rolled back karmic seeds to pidgin to unbreak CD builds
• Loads and loads of spec reviews/approvals
• Updated langpack-locales to latest locale data, and changed the package to be easier to maintain/update

Merges: mine are all done

Sponsoring:

• brasero, dput, eog, gnome-games, json-glib, libsoup2.4, lintian, metacity, ntfs-3g, pdf2djvu, poppler, pyth

on-crypto, vte, xen-3.3

Robert Ancell (robert_ancell)

• Updated pacakges: bluez-gnome, evince, file-roller, gcalctool, gedit, glade-3, gnome-games, gnome-nettool, gnome-system-monitor, gucharmap, libwnck, metacity
• Worked on versions tool, adding bug links, more packages, universe packages (disabled by default), LP theme
• Triaged compiz
• Made patch for mute button problems in gst-mixer, bug #299642

Sebastien Bacher (seb128)

Till Kamppeter (tkamppeter)

• Completed bug cleanup of foomatic-db
• Merged and updated Foomatic packages: foomatic-db, foomatic-db-engine, foomatic-hpijs
• Updated HPLIP to version 3.9.6, moved ACL control to allow the desktop user to access non-printing functions of HP's printers and multi-function devices from HAL to UDEV (LP: #389841), applied user-contributed patch to make printing on CDs and DVDs working again (LP: #380858).

• Regression in the support for documents with changing page sizes in the Poppler PostScript output (LP: #382379): Two users complained that duplex printing stopped working. Fixed the problem in Poppler (got also accepted upstream) and replaced the proposed Poppler package for the Jaunty SRU. Got already positive reactions of the two complaining users on this fix.

• Tested new user-contributed patch for making evince sending PDF to CUPS when printing. Works perfectly now (LP: #258421).
• Updated upstream GIT repositories of hal-cups-utils and system-config-printer to work together correctly with HPLIP 3.9.6.

Tony Espy (awe)

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