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Meeting Minutes

Present

Main Meeting

• Rick Spencer (rickspencer3) - chair
• Alexander Sack (asac)

• Arne Goetje (ArneGoetje)

• Bryce Harrington (bryce)
• Chris Cheney (calc)
• Jonathan Riddell (Riddell)

• Ken VanDine (kenvandine)

• Martin Pitt (pitti)
• Sebastien Bacher (seb128)
• Till Kamppeter (tkamppeter)
• Tony Espy

Eastern Edition

• Luke Yelavich (TheMuso)

• Robert Ancell (robert_ancell)

Apologies

Agenda

• Outstanding actions from last meeting

Announcements

• Bluetooth subsidy

Status Updates

• Partner Update
• Kubuntu Update
• Release Bugs/Release Status
• Review activity reports

Discussion

• support bugs
• how cool is Karmic going to be?

Any other business

Actions from this meeting

• ACTION: asac to set up wiki page to track bluetooth devices for desktop team
• ACTION: Riddell to report on current state of BT in Kubuntu Karmic
• ACTION: rickspencer3 to update on gdm greeter skinning resources at next meeting

Outstanding actions from last meeting

• ACTION: rickspencer3 to create trackable feature areas for DXE team
  • RESULT: was directed to blueprints, kenvandine to follow up
• ACTION: kenvandine to facilitate discussion between SteveA and asac regarding firefox extension
  • RESULT: Done, statik to contact asac shortly
• ACTION: everyone try both bluetooth front ends, report experience to asac next team meeting\
  • RESULT: some testing done, reported via email

• ACTION: TheMuso to test accessibility of empathy built with webkit

  • RESULT: The dialogs and menus are fine, but the contact list is not properly read. The only way to get contact list items read is to open chat windows for each of them, and close the window again. Bugs to be logged.

Bluetooth Subsidy

• All Canonical desktoppers can expense up to $50 US for bluetooth equipment
• Requirement is that you get it to work in Karmic
• Try to choose "different" equipment
• Goal is to help get bluetooth working better in Karmic

Partner Update

UbuntuOne:

Status

• desktop couchdb
  • due in REVU by end of week
• client records api
  • due in REVU by end of week
• evolution using couch for storage
  • evolution-couchdb and couchdb-glib are in REVU
• file syncing
  • in main and on CD (DONE)
• generic contact picker UI
  • no longer in scope for karmic
• screen sharing
  • might punt for karmic
• firefox bookmarks syncing
  • due in REVU by end of week
• MIR
  • couchdb
  • erlang

DX:

• FUSA replacement work (SUS) should be ready to integrate during the Dublin sprint

Kubuntu Update

• Alpha 3 currently blocked on a problem in Ubiquity, currently testing a fix
• Social from the start now implemented, microblogging and opendesktop applet on desktop, kopete-facebook installed, still some touching up to make sure it doesn't get in people's way
• Kubuntu Netbook now has settings package and should see its first release with alpha 3
• New Kubuntu council elected
• ayatana patches merged upstream and backported to our packages, notifications now shared between KDE and Gnome, result!
• freedesktop.org process seems to be making progress following GCDS (agateux's ayatana work highlighted that it wasn't currently working as it should)

Support Bugs

• Responsiveness regarding status is key
• Please ensure bug is assigned to you when working on it
• Please ping me by irc, email, or subscribe me to the bug

Other Business

• Apport being turned on for Alpha 3

Printing

• The replacement for hal-cups-utils is under heavy developm,ent currently.

• Completed script on the OpenPrinting server to auto-build driver packages. So in the Karmic age we will probably have auto download of binary driver packages.

Activity reports

Alexander Sack (asac)

• firefox 3.5 xulrunner 1.9.1 security update
• reviewing connman updates and what to do; trying to understand connman-gnome upstream status
• draft karmic firefox roadmap heads-up for mozilla
• work with mozilla and others on offline page
• upload ubufox 0.8~a1 with ffox 3.5/3.6 support to karmic
• help on libv8 (chrome javascript) packaging; check whats left before we can get
  • this into archive; work on making all internal symbols hidden; tracked

    down a maybe gcc bug - http://paste.ubuntu.com/220635/

• more udev related backport uploads to NM trunk PPA for jaunty

• discuss upcoming changes to rosetta with ArneGoetje which will require some

  • po2xpi love as it seems
• look into indicator-applet 100% CPU usage bug
• discuss google o3d mozilla plugin with community and upstream

Arne Goetje (ArneGoetje)

Bryce Harrington (bryce)

• Upstream bunches more -intel bugs. Reviewed all confirmed and
  • all Incomplete w/ response bugs and all new bugs.
• Began development of a new script for assisting upstreaming
  • bugs to Intel. Is able to pull in the bug info via launchpadlib and displays in a form for editing.
• Merged new mesa 7.5
• Updated to new git version of -intel for Alpha-3. Upstream had
  • intended to get 2.8.0 out in time for alpha-3 but I guess they ran late. But I'm told this git commit is equivalent to what will be in 2.8.0.
• Updated to new -intel 2.8.0
• Sort out some paternity leave plans

Chris Cheney (calc)

Jonathan Riddell (Riddell)

done:

• update KDE language packs for Karmic, now to to 92 languages

• Update PyQt package

• Fix KDM being killed on upgrade bug
• Process e-mail backlog from GCDS
• Investigate and attempt to fix Kontact bug from support
• Testing daily CDs ahead of alpha, investigate why live FSs weren't

building, investigate X crashing on startup

todo:

• Fix ubiquity on live CDs
• alpha release

Ken VanDine (kenvandine)

Last week:

• MIRS for couchdb and erlang
• Testing U1 packages
• Testing evolution contacts storage in couchdb, next up syncing them
• Desktop CouchDB experimenting

This week:

• MIRS for couchdb-glib, evolution-glib, and json-glib
• empathy indicator patch review
• Assisting U1 team with new packages in REVU
• empathy-human-theme upload to REVU
• empathy update to 2.27.4

Accessibility

• Further work on the gnome-speech replacement specification, probably at the point where speech-dispatcher can be moved to main and gnome-speech can be demoted. Audio code bug fixing still needs to happen, and i will need good audio coders to help with that, so will be asking various lists for assistance.
• Updated onboard to 0.90.2 in karmic.
• Tested empathy for accessibility problems. A couple have been found relating to contact list reading for screen readers, as well as changing online status. Will check upstrea to see if bugs have bene filed, and if not, will do so.

Audio

• Audio bug triaging, bugs in question are against pulseaudio, alsa userspace, and the kernel for hardware enablement.
• Sent Kees' comments upstrea re rtkit, no response yet.
• Built latest git master of gnome-media to see what has changed re pulse and card profiles, but it seems nothing UI related has been done, so nothing new yet.
• Tested audio via HDMI again to make sure it works, and make sure pulse can be set to use HDMI, even if only using pavucontrol. Once the new pulse applet supports card profiles it should be easy for a user to choose the output they want.

Misc

• Tested blueman and gnome-bluetooth with the same results as Jerone's testing.
• Found some weird behavior with proprietary NVIDIA drivers version 180 and my notebook. More debugging required to work out whats going on.

Martin Pitt (pitti)

Karmic spec drafting: all approved

Karmic feature work:

• desktop-karmic-automagic-python-build-system:
  • Lots of bug fixes and added updating of debian/control; should work well for quickly now
• desktop-karmic-symptom-based-bug-reporting: no progress this week
• security-karmic-apport-abort: no progress this week

• hal deprecation:

  • discussed with upstream the porting of hal-cups-utils to udev
• gnome-panel speedup: no progress this week

Other work done:

• Some initial Alpha-3 release engineering
• Lots of MIR reviews
• fought against CD overflow
• Bug fixing: apport, consolekit, devicekit-disks, gdm, gimp, gvfs, hal, hal-info, jockey, control-center, udev
• Lots of bug triage, cleaned up udev bug list
• Discussed standard document templates with Seb, we have a working plan now
• Reviewed and merged/fixed Michael Vogt's kernel crash apport branch
• Set up work items generation for mobile team

Sponsoring:

• glibmm2.4, gnome-control-center, gnome-session, gnome-system-tools, gnome-themes, libgnomekbd, nautilus, ubuntuone-client, ubuntuone-storage-protocol, gvfs
• Reviewed sponsor syncs: dh-ocaml, eet, sip4-qt3, libv4l, tomboy
• reviewed, but not uploaded: zephyr, glibmm2.4

Luke Yelavich (TheMuso)

Accessibility

• Further work on the gnome-speech replacement specification, probably at the point where speech-dispatcher can be moved to main and gnome-speech can be demoted. Audio code bug fixing still needs to happen, and i will need good audio coders to help with that, so will be asking various lists for assistance.
• Updated onboard to 0.90.2 in karmic.
• Tested empathy for accessibility problems. A couple have been found relating to contact list reading for screen readers, as well as changing online status. Will check upstrea to see if bugs have bene filed, and if not, will do so.

Audio

• Audio bug triaging, bugs in question are against pulseaudio, alsa userspace, and the kernel for hardware enablement.
• Sent Kees' comments upstrea re rtkit, no response yet.
• Built latest git master of gnome-media to see what has changed re pulse and card profiles, but it seems nothing UI related has been done, so nothing new yet.
• Tested audio via HDMI again to make sure it works, and make sure pulse can be set to use HDMI, even if only using pavucontrol. Once the new pulse applet supports card profiles it should be easy for a user to choose the output they want.

Misc

• Tested blueman and gnome-bluetooth with the same results as Jerone's testing.
• Found some weird behavior with proprietary NVIDIA drivers version 180 and my notebook. More debugging required to work out whats going on.

Robert Ancell (robert_ancell)

• Package update/merges: tomboy, gnome-terminal, scim, gnome-system-tools, gtksourceview, transmission
• Updated compiz apport scripts
• Unblacklisted ATI and Intel video cards in compiz

• Investigating gdmsetup replacement https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-karmic-gdmconfig

Sebastien Bacher (seb128)

(short week tuesday was a national holiday)

• GNOME 2.27.4 updates: libwnck gnome-desktop gnome-panel libgnomekbd

evolution gdm glib gtk

• fixed some karmic desktop issues
• spent some time investigating gvfs hardy sru issue
• updated gjs and gnome-shell in the desktop team ppa, got the gjs

tarball version in karmic universe

• updated gnome-media to ship the upstream pulseaudio capplet by

default now

• looked at a gdm crasher issue and backported a upstream cvs change

after IRC discussion

• looked at new gtk not having a png loader on amd64, the issue has

been fixed after a rebuild, could be a race in the build somewhere

• desktop bugs triage
• sponsoring: gtksourceview gnome-session gnome-nettool gnome-session

gnome-python-desktop empathy gnome-pkg-tools gdm totem

=== Tony Espy (awe)

• Updated connman to latest upstream release (0.23+git.head) and

proposed a merge with master;

• Finished testing and re-working nm-applet dialog focus/enter patch(

LP: 392362 ). Decided to forgo making the auto-focus work for 802.1x due the nested nature of the dialog, will enter a new bug to track. Proposed a merge to 0.7.1.head.

• Prepared ScanNow topic branch and proposed merge to 0.7.1.head.

• Re-Installed Jaunty on my macbook pro; tested backport of udev to

Jaunty for asac.

Till Kamppeter (tkamppeter)

• HAL deprecation: Tested Tim Waughs new udev callouts to make Plug'n'Print udev-based on my typical desktop configuration of 10 HP printers (Thanks to HP) connected to my laptop via 3 USB hubs. Now I get all 10 printers correctly enabling and disabling when turning them on and off, at least one by one. Fax queues on HP's multi-function devices are not yet supported, but they will come soon.

• Uploaded foo2zjs to hide the menu entry of the new little GUI applet to reset the paper-out status of the HP LaserJet 10xx series. This program is specific to a few printer models and therefore should not be in the desktop menus by default (LP: #396271). improved also the UI strings for the menu entry (LP: #398958).

• Answered and triaged printing-related bugs.

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