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Meeting Minutes

Present

Main Meeting

• Martin Pitt (pitti) - chair
• Alberto Milone (tseliot)

• Arne Goetje (ArneGoetje)

• Bryce Harrington (bryce)
• Chris Cheney (ccheney)
• Didier Roche (didrocks)

• Ken VanDine (kenvandine)

• Sebastien Bacher (seb128)

Eastern Edition

• Luke Yelavich (TheMuso)

• Robert Ancell (robert_ancell)

Apologies

• Till Kamppeter (tkamppeter)
• Rick Spencer (rickspencer3)
• Jonathan Riddell (Riddell)

Agenda

• Outstanding actions from last meeting
• Partner Update
• Kubuntu Update
• Release Bugs/Release Status
• pitivi
• Post A3 Mindset
• Review activity reports
• Any other business

Actions from this meeting

• Martin to review post-alpha 3 desktop team blueprints and discuss with Rick and Robbie what to drop

• Martin to discuss remaining two WIs for desktop-lucid-compiz-effects with Rick

• Bryce to BP/WIify new work assigned on the sprint

• Alberto to add missing alpha-3 WIs to foundations-lucid-boot-experience

Outstanding actions from last meeting

None.

Partner Update

• Online Services:
  • libubuntuone, the gtk widgets will get uploaded to lucid this week
    • - dependency for rhythmbox music store plugin and the new U1 config tool.
  • rhythmbox plugin should follow closely behind libubuntuone, but I expect next week.
  • U1 config tool, which replaces the current applet, is still on track to land before feature freeze.
• DX:

  • Weekly Releases.

  • MeMenu landed in Lucid (with gwibber integration)

  • Large churn in indicator/dbusmenu packages last week, there are known bugs but please don't hesitate to file new ones. We need to smooth this out ASAP.

  • ido (Indicator Disaplay Objects) was uploaded last week, this contains the extra gtk widgets needed by indicators. Currently used for Gwibber integration in the MeMenu and indicator-sound (also due to upload this week).

Release Status

• We revisited http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/canonical-desktop-team-lucid-alpha-3.html, since we are slightly over the trend line:

  • Bryce got some additional work at the sprint, will add WIs

  • desktop-lucid-startup-speed: We can't have Robert, drop gnome-panel speed up

  • desktop-lucid-xorg-triaging-diagnosis: targets of opportunity, but will benefit and ease X.org triaging work in the long run; potentially deferrable/droppable

  • desktop-lucid-social-from-the-start: Potentially droppable, targets of opportunity

  • desktop-lucid-xorg-proprietary-drivers: Some are done now, Alberto to update WI status; he might need help with those for alpha-3

  • desktop-lucid-compiz-effects: Remaining two are a lot of work, and highly questionable; should be dropped, but Martin to confirm/discuss with Rick

pitivi

• please help as you can with bug triaging/fixing
• Pedro will organize a [bh]ug day
• since we'll be concentrating on bug fixes, it's not very likely that we can keep this in the default install for lucid; however, revisiting this is a beta-1 work item, so we did not discuss it further in the meeting

Post A3 Mindset

• switch from feature work to quality work
• Find and fix the worst bugs

• Focus on upgrade experience, LTS -> LTS, Karmic -> Lucid

Other Business

None

Activity reports

Alberto Milone (tseliot)

Arne Goetje (ArneGoetje)

Blueprint work:

• create a web poll about the preferred desktop fonts on the LiveCD
• got ttf-liberation font package seeded onto the LiveCD

• discussed the font integration into software-center idea wit the Design team -> won't happen for Lucid or Lucid+1, therefor postpone the discussion about the details until we are ready for it.

non-blueprint work:

• langpack-o-matic:
  • finished the transfer to the new server
  • fixed some bugs in po2xpi which broke firefox translations in devmode for languages with country codes in the locale
• translations:
  • Firefox-3.6 transition for Lucid
  • built new language packs for Lucid
• updated language-support-writing meta packages based on the new oo.o version in Lucid.

Bryce Harrington (bryce)

• Nouveau
  • File Main Inclusion Request to move -nouveau to main
  • Draft release notes itemizing the functionality -nouveau provides over -nv, and for which chipsets
  • Talk to kernel team about nouveau plans
  • Prepare PPA of just nouveau bits we plan to put into lucid
  • Document a contingency plan to revert -nouveau if needed
  • craft a recipe for testing nouveau
  • Patch xserver to prefer "nouveau" instead of "nv"
  • Plan tasks for uploading nouveau to lucid
  • Swap each of my nvidia cards and re-test nouveau with each
  • Provide a X/Troubleshooting/ page for dealing with transition issues
  • By Alpha-3 at latest, make a go/no-go decision on -nouveau vs. reverting to -nv
  • Figure out licensing situation for nouveau's firmware blob
  • Cleanup X/KernelModeSetting and include docs for turning KMS *off*
• Wayland
  • Fix up libeagle with shlibs
  • Fix libeagle/wayland packaging
  • libeagle might need some shlibs-love, to make sure the deps get right (for packages that depend on it)
• USB Video
  • Receive displaylink devices from jerone, with commitment to make it work.
  • Receive displaylink device from persia, with commitment to make it work.
  • Receive VGA-over-USB device from davidm, with commitment to make it work.

  • Research USB Video / DisplayLink / etc.

  • Compare persia's DisplayLink with jerone's

• Intel Driver
  • Receive Dell mini-v device from rick-spencer, with commitment to making it work.
  • Review jesse's directions for triggering a freeze
  • Unprivate -intel bugs
  • Work with pitti on getting apport hook functioning
• Sprint
  • Kernel / X graphics meeting
  • Demo wayland PPA to interested people
  • Investigate firefox breakage. Uninstall firefox-greasemonkey. Recover from loss of ~/.mozilla
  • Advise Mirco on Xorg issue with GL functionality on -intel

    • Get dorset set up for mirco to do Dx development Status:Done

  • Advise jamie strand on Xorg issues
    • Triage Bug 513950 - Jamie's xfreeze with compiz but no kms
    • Triage bug #513956 - jamie's garbled compiz screen on ATI
    • Follow up jamie's bug 507148

  • Advise jcastro on X issue with GPU freeze when using GnomeDo

  • Advise bdmurray on X issue with HP touchscreen
  • Advise Cody on Xorg issue with rgba client-side failure
  • Advise lifeless on 3 Xorg issues with i965
  • Advise lifeless on Xorg issue with blanked screen
  • Advise DavidM on Xorg issue with VGA-over-USB devices

  • Advise persia on Xorg issue with DisplayLink support

  • merge patches from lifeless
  • Find out why json import failed for brian
  • Send hugh prioritized list of suggested candidates
  • Collapse in a heap
  • Start filing expense report (but I need mileage rates before I can submit it)
• ChromeOS
  • Upload -nohwaccess patch for xserver
  • Upload patch for requiring KMS in -intel
  • Experiment setting up rootless-X. Create a demo script. Send to Google. Follow up with foundations team.
• Sponsor patch for: [Bug 389289] Re: Cannot query freedesktop.org's bugzilla

Chris Cheney (ccheney)

• Sick Jan 28-29
• Continue to work on libsoup2.4
• Tested and got mumble fixed
• Uploaded openoffice.org 1:3.2.0~rc4-1ubuntu1
• Uploaded openoffice.org-l10n 1:3.2.0~rc4-1ubuntu1
• Uploaded openoffice.org-hyphenation 0.4
• Merged packages:
  • Uploaded pentaho-reporting-flow-engine-openoffice.org 0.9.2-OOo31-3ubuntu1
  • Uploaded liblayout-openoffice.org 0.2.9-OOo31-3ubuntu1
  • Uploaded openthesaurus 20080808-3ubuntu1
  • Uploaded hunspell 1.2.8-6ubuntu1
  • Uploaded openoffice.org-dictionaries 3.2.0~rc4-1ubuntu1
  • Uploaded hyphen 2.4-6ubuntu1
• Dictionary transition
  • Uploaded dict-nr 20070206-4
  • Uploaded dict-ns 20070206-4
  • Uploaded dict-ss 20070206-4
  • Uploaded dict-st 20070206-4
  • Uploaded dict-tn 20070206-4
  • Uploaded dict-ts 20070207-4
  • Uploaded dict-ve 20070206-3
  • Uploaded dict-xh 20070206-4
  • Uploaded dict-zu 20070207-5
  • Uploaded magyarispell 1.2-0ubuntu2
  • Uploaded myspell-hr 20060617-2ubuntu1
  • Uploaded openoffice.org-thesaurus-pl 1.5-3ubuntu1
  • Reported bugs to Debian about bgoffice, ispell-fi, and medicalterms not being properly transitioned.

Didier Roche (didrocks)

• GNOME updates:
  • 2.29.4 release: totem, totem-pl-parser, gcalctool, brasero, gtksourceview2
  • 2.29.90 release: seahorse-plugins, brasero, vinagre
• sponsor: yelp apport hook, gwibber
• Patch for caching wallpaper(s) resize at startup, still in discussion with upstream
• Port a patch about grouping windows in mutter
• package/fix package/review buhugger and quickly-widgets
• clean UNE stack (netbooklauncher, ubuntu-netbook-default-settings) and hide search for files
• UNE now get abiword and gnumeric

WI work:

• g-c-c: WI: "Hide capplet panel choosing the window manager if mutter is running"

(the panel is not really hidden, but a warning when mutter is running is displayed and it's disabling other switchers, as when compiz isn't in the path)

• Closed WI Audit packages/modules related to runtime parts of the UNE session that may be impacted by installed packages
• Closed WI fix "search for files" in app menu

Misc:

• some unfinished work on compiz and metacity about not showing tooltip on toolbar. Will be ready next week

• talked with upstream about one ws should hide the ws switcher, but they don't like the idea: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=606966. Still want to port it in metacity for UNE default.

• testing some bzr new workflow for packaging with merge-upstream (debugging, fix some part with upstream and james_w)

Jonathan Riddell (Riddell)

Ken VanDine (kenvandine)

• Lots of Gwibber/SFTS work
  • Released 2.29.1

  • Finished off the MeMenu integration

  • Uploaded to universe
• Updated empathy to 2.29.90
  • Updated libindicate patch to handle timestamps from libindicate
  • Added LP menus for chat windows
• Packaged ido
• Updated libubuntuone packaging

Luke Yelavich (TheMuso)

Martin Pitt (pitti)

Assigned blueprints:

• desktop-lucid-likewise-open-migration: implemented
• desktop-lucid-jockey-hotplug-support: implemented
• desktop-lucid-powermanagement-tweaks: implemented
• desktop-lucid-suspend-quirks-halsectomy (implemented): spent some hours fixing the suspend quirks for real,

all good now

• desktop-lucid-xorg-halsectomy: implemented
• desktop-lucid-bug-management: audio symptoms got default bug titles

Non-blueprint work done:

• Did some outstanding merges: adduser, gzip, igerman98, pygments
• Lots of boot speed work:
  • speed up modem-manager
  • speed up gconf
  • speed up gnome-at-session
  • eliminated expensive gnome-wm from UNE
  • discussed removing the expensive dd process from rsyslog; kernel fix landed, rsyslog fix handed over to foundations
  • investigated netbook-launcher startup (itz hopeless)
  • experimented with different background configurations
• Fixed x.org's apport signal handler patch to work again
• Bug fixing: devicekit-power, gconf, glib2.0
• Package updates: gnome-control-center
• TB meeting
• DMB meeting
• Lots of MIR reviews
• Caught up on bug triage, new bugs inbox down to 10

Sponsoring:

• devicekit-power, gnome-power-manager

Robert Ancell (robert_ancell)

Sebastien Bacher (seb128)

Till Kamppeter (tkamppeter)

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