Actions from previous meeting
Actions from this meeting
Ongoing effort to eliminate xulrunner-1.9.2 and xulrunner-2.0 from main (#740815) (chrisccoulson, pitti)
pygobject has moved from obsolete pysupport to dh_python2. That means that all packages which ship Python GI overrides can and should now also use dh_python2. (pitti)
language-selector and language-support-* packages now install the correct and current LibreOffice compatible dictionaries and thesauri. (pitti)
- libdee is finally working reliably with python, so we can reliably support Unity places/lenses written in python. (kenvandine)
- GNOME3 PPA starting to get 2.91.93 (RC) update (ricotz, robert_ancell, rodrigo)
- "Ubuntu Desktop Edition" latest strings changed to "Ubuntu" and "Ubuntu Desktop Classic" to "Ubuntu Classic" in gnome-session, Unity packages description was done last week.
- Lots of indicator-datetime fixes landing in trunk (mterry)
LibreOffice: (Bjoern Michaelsen)
- new upstream release: 3.3.2
- reenabled Launchpad integration LP#696524
- fixed some translations for LP#696526
- released to:
- natty as 3.3.2-1ubuntu2
- ppa as 3.3.2-1ubunt2~maverick1 for maverick still building
- lucid for ppa will follow
- work on reenabling unit and system test on LO upstream
- a11y - For natty we'll drop to a classic GNOME session for a11y and encourage people to test with Unity to help improve a11y for Oneiric
- overlay scrollbars
FFE bug 730740 wasn't approved by the release team
- bugs, bugs bugs...
- nothing to report, just bug fixing
- As usual, unity (and related components) release (late Wednesday… hum, early Thursday morning!) ready for beta (3.6.8) + some bug fixes cherry-picked crash fixes for the beta freeze.
- This week, we got, in addition to a lot of bug fixes:
- MT full support handling. If you didn't test it and you have a supported hardware, you should probably give it a try, the handles (that you can activate by ccsm and a keybinding) are just… gorgious!
- Introduction of a pending waiting for approval "fade and slide" effect when hovering the bfb (in experimental plugin settings) that may be set by default
- Some keynav better handling in both the launcher and the dash, as well as Quicklist having now the title name in the Quicklist (as in maverick)
- Launcher now respond to theme change!
- Under the cover, a rewrite of the Hide behavior machine enabling more effective automated tests.
- New Zeigeist synced with debian to get in sync with latest debian stack
- Some new compiz uploads to fix miscellanous issues, like more invisible window fixes, Alt + Tab fixes, some redrawing issues and autorespawn on crash
For people found of the full story, the now classic link: https://launchpad.net/unity/3.0/3.6.8
- On a11y, seems that Luke reported that the a11y isn't ready yet, so the default session for Natty if accessibility is enabled will be the GNOME classic session. We will still continue to work on a11y and Unity of course.
- Next week, on your computer screen:
We get a lot of crashers at random places due to signals not beeing disconnected. We just launch a spring cleanage fest today to remove and ensure all signals are destroyed when they need to. Hopefully, that will fix most of the crashers we get for beta1. Will be available on next release. It's a whole shell-team cross effort.
some UI freeze exception from the design team, not touching existing strings (https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/744973, https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/741926, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/727901)
- Coming soon…
- Released Software Center versions 126.96.36.199 through 188.8.131.52, includes:
- Last of the planned UI improvements before freeze
- Many bug fixes
- The team is now focused on bugfixes, stability and usability improvements
IRC log Western edition
18:31:37 pitti first, a FYI 18:31:38 pitti http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-desktop-team-ubuntu-11.04-beta-1.html 18:31:59 mterry hah! 18:32:00 pitti I cleaned up a bit yesterday, and postponed some unimportant/blocked stuff, and moved important ones to b2 18:32:09 mterry looks like some aggressive cleanup :) 18:32:14 pitti so we are down to 1 WI for dpm to talk about mozilla upstream translations which isn't bound by the freeze 18:32:23 pitti mterry: well, half of the cleanup was actually a bug 18:32:38 mpt mterry, ok, eventually this should be split out into a spec for the location field in general, but for now: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeAndDate?action=diff&rev2=32&rev1=31 18:32:39 pitti we have moved a lot of stuff to beta-2 before, but the milestone didn't exist in Launchpad until yesterday 18:32:47 pitti so you can now actually target stuff to beta-2 18:33:35 chrisccoulson hi! 18:33:38 pitti as for release critical bugs, these are on the "worrying" radar right now: 18:34:07 pitti bug 727372 -- chrisccoulson, it's getting a little late for more intrusive changes; do you think we can go ahead with our patch? 18:34:07 ubot2 Launchpad bug 727372 in firefox "FF 4 requires both .desktop and gconf entries for url handlers" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/727372 18:34:41 pitti bug 663294 - chrisccoulson, micahg: is it good enough to build with gcc-4.4 on i386? (as we did in maverick) 18:34:42 ubot2 Launchpad bug 663294 in gcc-4.5 "Firefox built with gcc-4.5 is a non-starter on i386 with -pie" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/663294 18:35:13 chrisccoulson pitti - bug 727372 - i'm just waiting for a nod from mozilla to take that patch (i'm reluctant to take it without review) 18:35:14 ubot2 Launchpad bug 727372 in firefox "FF 4 requires both .desktop and gconf entries for url handlers" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/727372 18:35:33 pitti bug 725434 - bryceh, seb128 -- seb did a summary why a package split is inordinarily hackish and complicated -- should we go with the PPA approach for natty after all? 18:35:34 ubot2 Launchpad bug 725434 in cairo "Nvidia drivers lead to extra memory usage for each process using libGL" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/725434 18:35:45 pitti chrisccoulson: ok, so by and large "blocked"? 18:36:13 chrisccoulson pitti - yeah. i've already taken quite a few patches i worked on, but all the ones i've taken have already had some sort of review 18:36:44 pitti chrisccoulson: ok, good to know; thanks 18:37:02 chrisccoulson pitti - i don't see it being a problem. the change is pretty small tbh, and i don't think there's much risk of not being able to ship it 18:37:50 pitti chrisccoulson: would another ping to mozilla speed it up or annoy them? 18:38:02 chrisccoulson pitti - yeah, probably ;) 18:38:11 pitti anyway, I guess we should discuss libcairo after the meeting, not that interesting for everyone 18:38:13 chrisccoulson i'll talk to my contact when he's online later 18:38:15 seb128 wrong reply to a "or" question ;-) 18:38:25 seb128 you need to pick a choice 18:38:27 seb128 ;-) 18:38:29 chrisccoulson oops 18:38:32 chrisccoulson annoy ;) 18:38:33 chrisccoulson lol 18:38:36 pitti otherwise we're doing ok RC bug wise 18:38:37 chrisccoulson there we go :) 18:38:43 pitti :) 18:38:48 chrisccoulson i only saw 1 option ;) 18:38:59 pitti yeah, just my annoying blabla 18:39:13 pitti which I'll now stop by handing the mic to kenvandine :) 18:39:16 pitti partner update? 18:39:19 kenvandine sure 18:39:28 seb128 "oh, pitti writing again, just tell him 'yes' so he's happy :p" ;-) 18:39:50 kenvandine UbuntuOne has nothing really to report, they are cleaning up their work items 18:40:08 kenvandine DX 18:40:29 kenvandine i assume all the desktopers already know we will drop to classic gnome for a11y this cycle 18:40:38 pitti for some profiles, anyway? 18:40:42 kenvandine with hopes that people will test unity more with a11y before Oneiric 18:40:50 pitti (the ones which need speech, I guess) 18:40:52 kenvandine yeah 18:41:17 kenvandine TheMuso is handling that 18:41:21 pitti I'd be interested in how well it holds up in "mouse deficiency" profiles, though 18:41:33 pitti from my POV unity works with a keyboard a lot easier than GNOME 18:41:41 pitti (in fact it rocks!) 18:41:46 didrocks pitti: unity is fully keynav nagivable from the latest tests we made 18:41:46 kenvandine overlay scrollbars, the release team rejected the FFE 18:41:48 kenvandine pitti, indeed 18:41:57 kenvandine didrocks, yes, it rocks from the keyboard 18:42:22 cyphermox pitti, I already can tell you keyboard navigation breaks in indicator-datetime because the calendar widget catches focus and doesn't let go 18:42:33 kenvandine that is all i have 18:42:43 kenvandine cyphermox, i hadn't noticed, is there a bug for that? 18:42:52 pitti cyphermox: that sounds smamll enough to be fixable, though; mind to report it? 18:42:59 pitti cyphermox: (and good catch!) 18:43:00 cyphermox kenvandine, I don't know, I found that out this morning :) 18:43:09 didrocks (just confirmed) 18:43:11 mterry Bug 676222 I think 18:43:12 pitti heh indeed, confirmed 18:43:12 ubot2 Launchpad bug 676222 in indicator-datetime "Broken/confusing keyboard navigation" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/676222 18:43:18 * kenvandine confirmed too 18:43:22 cyphermox seems to fit that yes 18:43:50 pitti not that I could even get to this with the keyboard in the pre-indicator time :) 18:44:06 pitti kenvandine: thank you 18:44:26 pitti didrocks already posted a detailled and great report to the wiki 18:44:34 * pitti gives everyone some time to read it 18:44:42 pitti didrocks: anything you want/need to discuss? 18:44:53 didrocks just hilighting some points 18:45:05 Riddell pitti: which wiki page? 18:45:07 pitti where do you currently see the biggest problems? 18:45:11 pitti Riddell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2011-03-29 18:45:17 didrocks first, we get a crazy number of bug fixes this week 18:45:21 didrocks https://launchpad.net/unity/3.0/3.6.8 18:45:42 pitti didrocks: (isn't that "last week"? we already have 3.6.8) 18:45:43 didrocks however, we have some crashes still for beta1, mostly on signals not beeing disconnected 18:45:47 didrocks we fixed most of them today 18:45:50 pitti \o/ 18:46:05 didrocks pitti: well, "this week" being "last release available" yeah ;) 18:46:08 pitti this is driving me mad, I'll happily test anything if needed 18:46:08 Riddell when I ran the Ubuntu Desktop live CD yesterday Unity didn't show up 18:46:26 didrocks Riddell: did you get anything? was compiz running? 18:46:31 pitti Riddell: oh, interesting; I tried on three machines today, and I couldn't replicate that any more (I still could with alpha-3) 18:46:56 Riddell didrocks: it was a virtual machine, I don't think compiz was running, I did get files on the desktop but no panels 18:46:57 pitti of course I booted it with the intent to debug it, so it's pretty clear why it worked 18:47:08 didrocks also, just hilighting as well some UI changes comng: (https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/744973, https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/741926, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/727901) 18:47:09 ubot2 Launchpad bug 744973 in unity "Make the BFB icon turn blue when an application goes urgent" [High,Fix committed] 18:47:10 pitti Riddell: ah, so 2D fallback broken? 18:47:10 seb128 Riddell, it's a known issue 18:47:15 Riddell pitti: could be 18:47:16 seb128 well rendering issue 18:47:18 pitti seb128: is it? 18:47:19 seb128 gnome-panel is running 18:47:25 didrocks yeah, gnome-panel running, not showing 18:47:27 seb128 i.e alt-f2 opens the run a command dialog 18:47:31 didrocks there is a bug I reported for alpha3 about it 18:47:35 pitti I haven't tried beta-1 candidates in kvm, but it has worked fine until a3 18:47:39 seb128 it does the same there in kvm 18:47:42 didrocks I reopened it as it was wrongly close 18:48:26 pitti didrocks: ok, so apart from the closure crashes, anything else which we need to track, or should help with? 18:48:26 didrocks bug #711378 18:48:28 ubot2 Launchpad bug 711378 in compiz "after compiz crashed, gnome-panel isn't mapped again" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/711378 18:48:29 seb128 well it did when I tried thursday daily, I need to try again with today's iso, I've been testing on real hardware today 18:48:53 didrocks pitti: just testing testing… ;) next week, a new "unity and compiz detection tool" will be available 18:48:55 pitti odd, a3 worked perfectly in VMs and poorly on real iron; now it's the other way round? 18:49:04 didrocks way faster than the older one 18:49:09 pitti didrocks: ok, that sounds relieving! 18:49:11 pitti thanks 18:49:31 didrocks so, if you can ensure that the right session is still launched on your hw, that would be great :) 18:49:40 pitti Software-Center -- tremolux also already posted to the wiki, anything to discuss there? 18:50:00 pitti seb128, didrocks: ah, confirming the kvm bug 18:50:10 tremolux hey, not much to say really, just all bugfixing all the time now 18:51:58 pitti tremolux: ok, great; #507836, #739908, and #723911 are still on the radar? 18:52:24 pitti == Kubuntu status -- Riddell ? 18:52:30 Riddell hi 18:52:36 Riddell * CDs in decent shape for beta 18:52:36 Riddell * arm builds mostly complete from opengles failures, waiting on linero team to report back on avogadro 18:52:39 Riddell * Qt security fix for Comodo fake SSL certificates in natty and backports sent to security team 18:52:42 Riddell * KDE SC 4.6.2 due out the Tuesday after Beta 1 18:52:45 Riddell * probable FFe coming for new Phonon version after beta, we won't include the zeitgeist integration 18:52:48 Riddell * http://goo.gl/23eui 7 milestoned bugs for beta 18:52:50 Riddell * bug 744944 broken upgrade is worrying 18:52:51 ubot2 Launchpad bug 744944 in kdebase-workspace "kdm is restarted during the upgrade to Natty . The user is disconnected from the session" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/744944 18:52:53 Riddell * bug 712061 kubuntu mobile should be fixed shortly 18:52:54 ubot2 Launchpad bug 712061 in kubuntu-mobile-default-settings "kubuntu mobile images fail to load" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/712061 18:53:12 Riddell when I say shortly, I mean after a 14 hour ARM compile 18:53:16 seiflotfy Riddell, why not 18:53:16 pitti Riddell: 744944 -> is that a bug in the upstart script? 18:53:17 seiflotfy ? 18:53:38 pitti Riddell: erm, in postinst I mean 18:53:55 Riddell seiflotfy: I think it's a feature too far for post-beta, but we will include qzeitgeist in the archive and have phonon+zeitgeist in a PPA 18:54:00 Riddell pitti: I don't know yet 18:54:07 seiflotfy ah nice 18:54:10 seiflotfy Riddell, that is nice 18:54:17 pitti Riddell: it might get an automatic "restart" thing from dh_installinit perhaps? 18:54:25 seiflotfy we are looking into a KDE GSoC for Zeitgeist 18:54:30 seiflotfy a nice plasma widget 18:54:33 pitti or perhaps it crashes and tries to respawn 18:55:24 Riddell pitti: things to investigate for sure 18:55:36 pitti ok, thanks 18:55:40 pitti X.org -> eastern edition 18:56:03 pitti another general reminder, peer reviews for your colleagues are due this week 18:56:08 pitti (self/manager review was due last Fri) 18:56:15 pitti otherwise, nothing else from me 18:56:19 pitti any other business? 18:57:26 Sweetshark pitti: my plans for this week: minor fixes for the 3.3.2 release, integrating dbusmenu upstream for 3.4, some cleanup of the LO debian/rules file (debian upstream, not use in doing that alone -- ill just propose some patches to _rene_ and will see what he will accept. if he does not accept, I will scrap that. doing for us only are causing more trouble on the merge that we might win) 18:58:10 pitti Sweetshark: "dbusmenu" -> is that lo-menubar? 18:58:38 Sweetshark pitti: yes 18:58:39 pitti Sweetshark: agreed, less delta > less noise 18:58:44 pitti cool 18:59:10 pitti hyphenation, dicts, etc. should all be sorted out now, AFAICS 18:59:23 seb128 speaking about libdbusmenu, firefox display warnings when starting now 18:59:26 pitti http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.txt looks exemplary for this time of the release :) 18:59:26 seb128 chrisccoulson, ^ 18:59:42 seb128 pitti, great ;-) 18:59:42 chrisccoulson seb128 - it's just 1 warning isn't it? 18:59:46 seb128 chrisccoulson, right 19:00:03 pitti it also seems that KDE is much happier on armel these days: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/natty_probs.html 19:00:27 pitti nvidia/fglrx uninstallability is intended (wrong ABI), aside from that i386/amd64 is perfect 19:00:30 pitti let's keep it that way! 19:00:35 chrisccoulson seb128: 19:00:35 chrisccoulson (firefox-bin:6565): LIBDBUSMENU-GTK-CRITICAL **: dbusmenu_menuitem_property_set_shortcut: assertion `gtk_accelerator_valid(key, modifier)' failed 19:00:38 chrisccoulson just that one? 19:00:41 seb128 right 19:00:43 pitti so, thanks everyone, let's adjourn the meeting