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natty-proposed now has Firefox 5 and new language packs; please help testing where you can. (pitti)
- Apport retracer should be working again for natty/lucid. (pitti)
Code for http://status.ubuntu.com/ now got merged into lp:launchpad-work-items-tracker, will be announced officially soon. (pitti)
Deprecated the usblp kernel module for USB printers and used libusb instead. CUPS upstream recommended this instead of accepting our patch for a hybrid (support for both usblp and libusb) USB backend. CUPS upstream accepted our patches for USB URI migration and for broken device ID support (USB-to-parallel adapters). Updated CUPS and foo2zjs packages for that (TillKamppeter).
Investigations on firmware file upload into HP's cheapo laser printers (TillKamppeter).
Created a report listing bugs that are affecting a good quantity of users, please review it at http://people.canonical.com/~pedro/desktop/ so i can customize the report for your specific area. (PedroVillavicencio)
- deja-dup got Ubuntu One support (mterry)
LibreOffice 3.4.0 upstream is out, not yet at debian (they likely also need the fix for LP#759704)
LibreOffice 3.3.3 release is around the corner
- gtk2themeshim will land next week, this provides a gtk2 theme based on a gtk3 so we only need to manage a single theme
- working on a shim that will pull in needed U1 packages from a PPA, there still needs to be discussions with the release team on this.
- Unity 3D:
- Compiz SRU finally out, fixing some nice things like the 1 px issue in
- Other Unity/Places SRU confirmed and now in natty-updates.
- New SRU for Unity/Nux coming this week
- Unity 2D:
New unity 2D release this week (https://launchpad.net/unity-2d/+milestone/3.8.8)
- adapting our management tool like unify to it.
Qt issue making unity 2D places crash finally tackled! (well, workarounded rather). Rationale available at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/+bug/791213 and the Qt developer blogged about it: http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2011/06/10/type-punning-and-strict-aliasing/
- a11y accessibility on Qt and QML:
Got some git commit pointer in Qt to fix accessibility issue by TheMuso. Seems not having all commits so. Will discuss at the Qt contributor summit with the person in charge for a worklow with them
- Same rationale for the QML a11y support (in a separate branch that will be published before end of week)
Updated an experimental plugin update for at-spi2. Tested and despite beeing crashy, I can hear Qt components in Orca! https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental. Waiting for integrating the patch in Qt accessibility fixes before pushing that one in Oneiric.
- experimental support for indicator in Qt under work. New package ready, just need upstream discussion before Kubuntu guys accept the needed patch in Qt (will happen this week with the Qt contributor summit)
- The Canonical UX team are user-testing mockups for a new Software Center design this week
- They expect to complete wireframes next week and hand over the new design week of July 1
- We will need to phase in new design features based on priority, schedule will be extremely tight to FF
- Software Center version 4.1.6 coming later this week, contains UI enhancements and bug fixes
- Released Software Center 4.0.3 SRU in Natty
- In progress: Enhanced Unity launcher integration
Lots of testing of Chinese language issues in Software Center this week per the Qin spec at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-qin-ubuntu-china
mvo tracked down and fixed an important issue in apt that affected Software Center translations at first start, see LP: #794907
- Mesa upload (and subsequent Xserver upload) blocked on llvm-2.9 MIR (Bug #790204)
- Extended the dricore patch to also factor out a shared Gallium library; saves a couple of megabytes of CD space
- nvidia-current multiarch patch sent to Alberto Milone.
Cairo now has the EGL/GL backend re-enabled; this reopens https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cairo/+bug/725434, resulting in nvidia's libGL causing each process that links with cairo (ie: anything that links to GTK) dirty about an additional 5MiB of memory. We need to decide what to do about this.
IRC log Western edition
17:30:52 pitti https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2011-06-14 17:30:54 pitti welcome everyone 17:32:52 pitti so, let's dive in with the partner update 17:32:57 kenvandine woot 17:32:57 pitti kenvandine, anything of news? 17:33:21 kenvandine from dx all i have is gtk2shim thing we talked about last week, it is landing this week 17:33:29 pitti oh, nice! 17:33:36 pitti to recap, that'll make GTK 3 themes work with GTK2 17:33:41 kenvandine yes 17:33:43 pitti not the existing GTK2 theme with GTK3, right? 17:33:47 mterry We have a GTK 3 theme? 17:33:54 pitti that would have been my next q :) 17:33:56 kenvandine mterry, no... don't get seb128 going :) 17:34:01 seb128 no we don't 17:34:01 mterry :) 17:34:05 seb128 grrrrrrrr 17:34:06 seb128 ;-) 17:34:07 kenvandine :) 17:34:12 pitti kenvandine: how do they test that then, with adwaita? 17:34:12 kenvandine moving onto U1 17:34:24 kenvandine pitti, don't know... i'll find out thursday :) 17:34:37 seb128 pitti, dx...testing... no, those don't fit ;-) 17:34:51 kenvandine U1 is working on this new shim thing that will pull U1 from a ppa, supposedly all of this was agreed to with the release team at UDS 17:34:58 kenvandine seb128, lol 17:35:06 pitti kenvandine: for stables? not... exactly 17:35:24 kenvandine yes... i have asked them to double check everyone is OK with it 17:35:31 kenvandine i wish i had been in that session 17:35:36 pitti we discussed ways how to do intrusive U1 SRUs for stables, with new libraries (in private paths, etc.) 17:36:06 pitti the "external PPA" option came up, but that won't work for shipping anything you like, as you would break other desktop stuff just the same way 17:36:16 pitti except that a lot fewer people would actually test it 17:36:26 kenvandine pitti, right, that was what freaked me out 17:36:55 kenvandine they said Chipaca is circling back with the rt to confirm everyone is happy 17:37:00 kenvandine so i assume plans will change 17:37:01 pitti so we discarded that option 17:37:42 pitti and said that the best course would be to bundle new libraries if they are required, and provide their own translations (at least temporary) in the .deb if they want to introduce new strings, until the langpacks catch up 17:37:44 kenvandine pitti, i'll make sure everyone is happy with whatever solution they end up with before it gets uploaded 17:38:04 pitti I don't see what a separate PPA woudl actually achieve, aside from circumventing our SRU/QA processes 17:38:13 kenvandine pitti, right... :/ 17:38:43 kenvandine that is all i have 17:38:53 pitti kenvandine: if you can follow up with them again, that'd be appreciated; they certainly shouldn't waste work on implementing such a "enable PPA" feature in the GUI 17:39:03 pitti kenvandine: thanks! would you mind adding this to the wiki? 17:39:40 kenvandine pitti, yeah... i got stuck in the pile of people with edit locks :) 17:40:06 pitti kenvandine: thanks 17:40:57 pitti didrocks: nice progress on unity! anything to discuss there, or with Qt? 17:41:41 didrocks not really, I expect having a lot more info at the Qt contributor summit this week (so, don't expect me very online while travelling, from tomorrow until Saturday evening) 17:42:00 didrocks really happy that the Qt bug is now workarounded and that Nokia people will work on it :) 17:42:16 didrocks also, I didn't note on the wiki but we just released a new unity-2d 17:42:27 didrocks (and I adapted my unify tool to unity-2d) 17:42:56 didrocks that's it from me, all is written in the wiki 17:43:06 pitti merci beaucoup 17:43:07 didrocks if there is an unity SRU coming this week, seb128 will handle it 17:43:11 didrocks mais de rien :) 17:43:30 pitti tremolux: anything to discuss for s-c? 17:43:41 pitti any news wrt. the qt and/or gtk3 ports? 17:43:50 pitti or will we keep the gtk2 one for oneiric? 17:44:25 tremolux I think we will still try for gtk3, but there is uncertainty because of the upcoming design changes 17:44:33 tremolux but I don't want to rule it out 17:44:56 pitti nice progress on desktop-o-software-center-ui! 17:44:56 tremolux it may actually make it easier, depending on how much we actually need to reimplement 17:45:19 tremolux ah, thx :) 17:45:27 pitti ok, makes sense 17:45:32 pitti thanks! 17:45:53 tremolux sorry I can't be more conclusive at this point 17:47:05 pitti no problem 17:47:24 pitti so, some ramblings from me 17:47:27 pitti first, CD space 17:47:36 pitti we changed to live-builder, which actually won us some 5 MB 17:47:59 pitti sad thing is that python3.2, the new mono, and libegl-mesa ate it all up, plus added some extra 10 MB, so that we are again oversized 17:48:09 pitti I'd welcome some help with figuring out what changed in mono 17:48:34 pitti python3.2 is "known", and the plan is to compensate it by dropping py 2.6 support from python-* packages 17:49:04 pitti libegl-mesa is also "known", although of course it would be nice to not have both egl and gl on the CD, but that might not be realistic 17:49:17 pitti chrisccoulson: ^ bad news for TB, I guess :/ 17:49:23 achiang tedg: ping, #691953 doesn't seem to have been fixed properly 17:49:39 didrocks probably a stupid idea, but do we avoid already shipping in the live the *.pyc file? Would that win a little? 17:49:49 chrisccoulson pitti - yeah :/ 17:49:53 * mterry needs to get deja-dup on the CD before all space savings are spoken for 17:50:06 seb128 we might need to get clutter on the CD as well 17:50:13 seb128 oh and accountsservice when the mir is approved 17:50:19 pitti didrocks: it would probably do, yes; do we actually have them there? 17:50:32 didrocks pitti: not sure, I just synced the iso, just need to start it to check 17:50:39 pitti grep '\.pyc' /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list 17:50:51 pitti the only hit is libglib2.0-dev.list, for gdbus-codegen 17:50:55 pitti which looks like a bug 17:51:05 didrocks pitti: will try and if there, will estimate the size 17:51:10 pitti didrocks: merci 17:51:16 didrocks hum, they aren't listed as it's in a trigger anyway 17:51:17 pitti didrocks: it might be done at postinst time? 17:51:23 didrocks yeah 17:51:27 seb128 it is yes 17:51:34 pitti didrocks: right; I meant, if they would be shipped in the .debs, we can't just rm them; but like that we could 17:51:37 rodrigo_ accountsservice is small, afaik, but yes, will take up some space 17:51:49 didrocks will check :) 17:52:14 pitti rodrigo_: 67 kB, trivial, 17:52:22 seb128 clutter isn't trivial 17:52:31 pitti *nod* :/ 17:52:43 pitti yay more libraries 17:52:55 pitti but if we actually drop tomboy, then we could also drop gbrainy 17:53:09 pitti and clutter, TB, and llvm (which we didn't even add yet) would fit 17:53:15 pitti due to dropping mono 17:53:24 seb128 pitti, well that doesn't get ride of mono if we don't switch back to rhythmbox 17:53:50 tedg achiang, What does it do? 17:54:08 seb128 we are in a meeting guys, can you move to ayatana? ;-) 17:54:16 achiang oh, sorry 17:54:16 tedg Oh, sorry 17:54:21 pitti seb128: ah, I keep forgetting about banshee, right 17:55:26 pitti anyway, this was mostly an FYI; if someone wants to look into the mono growth, you earned yourself a beer at the sprint :) 17:55:36 pitti should be some 5 MB 17:55:54 pitti so, over to work items 17:56:01 pitti http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/canonical-desktop-team-oneiric-alpha-2.html doesn't look too happy 17:56:18 pitti desktop-o-default-email-client didn't make any progress so far 17:56:35 pitti chrisccoulson: is that just a matter of updating the WIs, or is this stuck upstream, or stuck at us getting space for it? 17:56:51 pitti although the UI design/new features certainly aren't blocked 17:57:15 mterry pitti, how come some beta-1 tasks show in that list? 17:57:17 * pitti will parallelize independent specs a bit to speed up the meeting, let's try that 17:57:25 chrisccoulson pitti - i've been pretty busy with other stuff atm (like firefox 5 and dropping xulrunner) 17:57:42 pitti kenvandine: desktop-o-gwibber-gtk3 also is at 0% still; does this need postponing? 17:57:51 kenvandine i need to update it 17:57:57 kenvandine it is progressing very nicely 17:58:16 seb128 mterry, like? 17:58:17 pitti chrisccoulson: understood 17:58:23 chrisccoulson pitti - some of those can be closed off fairly quickly though 17:58:28 pitti chrisccoulson: I'm just asking because a lot of the WIs aren't actually your's 17:58:30 mterry seb128, "Do an accessibility sweep" for deja-dup 17:58:42 mterry I must have specified the beta badly in the blueprinmt 17:58:44 chrisccoulson ie, i already have a fairly good idea on what to do with lightning now 17:59:02 chrisccoulson i have a pretty good idea about how we're handling extension upgrades too 17:59:09 pitti mterry: that's because it's not oneiric-beta-1, but ubuntu-11.10-beta-1 17:59:16 chrisccoulson that seems to be the bulk of mine 17:59:19 mterry ugg, thanks pitti 17:59:20 seb128 mterry, the blueprint milestone is alpha2 too 17:59:26 pitti mterry: and it doesn't try to recognize unknown milestones, it just adds them to the default spec milestone (which is a2) 17:59:30 seb128 pitti, can you have items after the spec milestone? 17:59:37 pitti seb128: yes 17:59:41 pitti the spec milestone is just the default 17:59:42 seb128 ok, great ;-) 17:59:51 pitti but you need to spel it crrorectyl :) 18:00:43 pitti chrisccoulson: ok, thanks; so it seems a whole lot of them will be closed in one go :) 18:01:03 chrisccoulson pitti - yeah. there seems like a lot, but there's not much work in most of those 18:01:14 * pitti feels a bit relieved :) 18:01:54 pitti mterry: desktop-o-deja-dup-default is the third-biggest 18:02:05 mterry pitti, blocked on MIR 18:02:07 pitti but we just covered that 18:02:10 mterry didrocks, got MIR cycles? 18:02:11 pitti i. e. some WIs aren't for a2 18:02:29 mterry that too 18:02:31 pitti so the remaining ones are trivial, once the MIRs get approved 18:02:34 pitti so that's all fine 18:02:37 didrocks mterry: not really, already have done a lot recently, and I won't be there until eow, after, it should be ok :) 18:02:48 mterry didrocks, np, I'll bug doko 18:02:58 seb128 speaking about mir, rodrigo_ how is the accountsservice one going? it's blocking the gdm update 18:03:11 pitti https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-accessibility-ubiquity is a huge one, but should be handled in the Eastern edition 18:03:12 pitti TheMuso: ^ 18:03:22 rodrigo_ seb128, got part of it done, will finish it today or tomorrow, I hope 18:03:26 pitti a-s needs some code fixes 18:03:39 seb128 rodrigo_, ok thanks, feel free to update the bug with upstream bug numbers if you get some 18:03:43 rodrigo_ yes 18:04:00 seb128 thanks 18:04:03 didrocks rodrigo_: and reassign me to it, please :) 18:04:29 rodrigo_ didrocks, ok, will do 18:05:02 didrocks thanks 18:05:05 pitti and finally, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-libreoffice-packaging is still at 0% as well 18:05:27 pitti Sweetshark: ^ is this blocked on an actual upstream release of 3.4.0/3.3.3? 18:05:52 Sweetshark yes, actually some of the packaging is already ongoing, but there wont be release before debian. 18:06:44 Sweetshark it seems like 3.4.0 will soon see a debian release (I saw a changelog entry commit today) 18:07:04 pitti Sweetshark: do you think it's realistic for a2 (i. e. by start of July), or sohuld we move it? 18:07:35 Sweetshark 3.3.3 isnt released yet upstream, but hasnt seen much activity since 3.3.2 (for LO that is), so should not be too problematic. 18:08:14 Sweetshark we will have some 3.4.0 and 3.3.3 release by start of July. 18:08:33 pitti ok, thanks for the heads-up 18:08:48 pitti that's it from me 18:08:50 seb128 will 3.4 stop using gnome-vfs in that -gnome binary? ;-) 18:09:46 seb128 pitti, I've some topics I would like to discuss 18:09:50 pitti seb128: go ahead 18:09:57 seb128 first, indicator on GTK3 18:10:01 seb128 is that moving? 18:10:24 seb128 out of creating issues like that gtk2, gtk3 mixed symbols bug you reassigned today that's something we should start landing and testing 18:10:33 seb128 kenvandine, mterry:^ where do we stand? 18:10:53 seb128 can we distro patch mterry's work and dual build even if dx is behind? 18:10:53 mterry Most indicators are ported (datetime is only exception I can remember) 18:10:59 mterry They don't have upstream releases yet 18:11:07 mterry So thus aren't packaged 18:11:09 seb128 do we need some? if we do what is blocking them? 18:11:10 kenvandine seb128, perhaps 18:11:31 seb128 kenvandine, I will not take perhaps as an answer :p 18:11:34 kenvandine seb128, we should be getting releases for some of them this thursday 18:11:51 kenvandine so depending on what doesn't get released, i'll look at distro patching 18:11:53 mterry seb128, we can distro patch anything! :) 18:11:56 kenvandine and talk to ted about those 18:12:04 kenvandine mterry, yeah, that is what we do! 18:12:05 Sweetshark seb128: I will check for that gnome-vfs stuff when I get around to it. 18:12:05 kenvandine :-D 18:12:07 seb128 kenvandine, it doesn't need to be you doing the work 18:12:14 seb128 Sweetshark, thanks 18:12:26 mterry I'm actively working on datetime, but it's a bit more involved 18:12:28 kenvandine seb128, i'll figure out what is left standing after thursdays uploads 18:12:35 seb128 mterry, right, I wouldn't stop on dx, they have their schedule and don't care much about oneiric 18:12:35 mterry Needs a new widget from GTK 3.1.4 which just got into oneiric 18:12:43 seb128 we might still be sitting there in a month if we wait on them 18:12:54 seb128 kenvandine, ok, thanks 18:13:05 seb128 let's wait on thursday and start distro patching after that 18:13:08 kenvandine seb128, tedg's goal is to have them all in oneiric with gtk3 builds by the sprint 18:13:09 seb128 mterry, ^ works for you? 18:13:17 seb128 kenvandine, great 18:13:40 * kenvandine is going to install oneiric on tedg's laptop when he isn't looking in dublin 18:13:43 mterry seb128, in terms of finishing datetime? sure 18:13:46 kenvandine someone buy him beer to distract him 18:14:15 seb128 ;-) 18:14:36 seb128 mterry, well, no need to finish, but starting to land the dual build libs, etc in the next week 18:14:46 seb128 ok 18:14:50 seb128 that was my topic1 18:15:04 seb128 on a side note I just uploaded gtk+ 3.1.6 in the ubuntu-desktop ppa if somebody needs it 18:15:29 seb128 there is some theming issue, gnome-standard-themes need to be updated with it, I will start testing that soon 18:15:44 pitti seb128: the theming issue is introduced in 3.1.6, not in 3.1.4 yet? 18:15:51 pitti (i. e. that's why ppa, not oneiric?) 18:15:51 * tedg has never been happier to not like beer... and starts researching BIOS locking in EFI. 18:15:54 seb128 there is some new deprecations in that version 18:15:57 seb128 pitti, right 18:16:07 seb128 i.e GtkHBox GtkVBox got deprecated in favor of GtkBox 18:16:23 kenvandine tedg, ;-D 18:16:32 seb128 I will send an email to the list about those 18:16:56 seb128 glib deprecated G_CONST_RETURN as well 18:17:04 seb128 (you should just use "const" instead) 18:17:06 kenvandine seb128, did you update the ~ubuntu-desktop branch for gtk3? 18:17:24 seb128 kenvandine, not pushed yet, I'm still working on it 18:17:32 seb128 kenvandine, but after the end of the meeting I will do it 18:17:36 kenvandine ok, i did push that patch cimi wanted there right? 18:17:44 seb128 I did delete it 18:17:46 seb128 it's in the new version 18:17:48 kenvandine ok 18:17:55 seb128 I told you to not bother :p 18:17:57 seb128 anyway 18:17:58 kenvandine i was just wanting to check that :) 18:18:00 seb128 topic 3 18:18:04 kenvandine seb128, yeah... he really wanted it 18:18:18 seb128 cheese won dependency on clutter, clutter-gst, clutter-gesture, mx 18:18:32 seb128 totem git switched from gst to clutter-gst for its video rendering 18:18:56 seb128 so we will need to figure how well clutter-gst works for us 18:19:05 seb128 and to make space on the CD for those 18:19:21 seb128 that's just an note so people know about it and can raise concern if they have any 18:19:46 seb128 we should probably figure how to test how well that stack work for i.e video rendering on the platform and video drivers we support 18:19:46 kenvandine seb128, i thought cheese got removed from the CD? 18:20:06 kenvandine seb128, empathy can now use libcheese to take avatar photos 18:20:08 seb128 kenvandine, ubiquity will bring it back in, they plan to use libcheese-gtk to get your picture 18:20:15 kenvandine ah 18:20:17 seb128 empathy as well 18:20:26 kenvandine so i guess we can enable that :) 18:20:31 seb128 they plan to use libcheese also for camera detection and maybe some other things 18:20:37 kenvandine bcurtiswx and i were just discussing that 18:20:52 seb128 well, I'm still not sold on bringing clutter on the CD :p 18:20:57 seb128 but yeah we will likely need it 18:20:59 kenvandine hehe 18:21:03 pitti libcheese itself is tiny 18:21:10 pitti but clutter is rather big 18:21:18 kenvandine i hope libcheese doesn't suck in clutter 18:21:23 seb128 it does 18:21:33 kenvandine sigh 18:21:34 seb128 it brings in libclutter-gst and libclutter 18:21:37 pitti will the next cheese introduce a clutter dependency to libcheese-gtk18 itself, or "just" to the apps? 18:21:46 seb128 pitti, the lib 18:21:48 pitti ok, just answered 18:21:55 kenvandine pitti, fun times... 18:22:02 seb128 indeed :-( 18:22:03 kenvandine poor chrisccoulson 18:22:12 seb128 ok 18:22:15 seb128 another sort of items 18:22:16 pitti poor CDs 18:22:19 kenvandine the universe is fighting against TB 18:22:24 rodrigo_ :) 18:22:26 pitti we never ever drop libraries, it seems :/ 18:22:26 hrw bye 18:22:30 seb128 I suggested to drop tomboy out of the CD at least until it's ported to recent apis 18:22:34 pitti +1 18:22:41 rodrigo_ how much space that would save? 18:22:50 seb128 it's the only thing keeping libgnome libgnomeui libbonobo libbonoboui libgnomevancas on the CD 18:23:15 seb128 rodrigo_, like 1mb, but it would allow to drop that stack of old libraries from the CD 18:23:32 seb128 which is my main driver right now 18:23:42 seb128 it's easy to reinstall and users upgrading will still get it 18:23:45 rodrigo_ ok, not much, but yes, we should get rid of those libs 18:23:50 seb128 we can bring it back later if it switches to gsettings 18:24:02 pitti it also uses the libndesk-dbus stuff which banshee doesn't, so perhaps more 18:24:07 seb128 but seeing that we have no binding near to land for that 18:24:16 seb128 ok 18:24:23 seb128 let's make it a team meeting decision? 18:24:33 seb128 is somebody against dropping tomboy from the CD for now? 18:24:36 kenvandine +1 18:24:42 seb128 I will email the lists about it 18:24:54 rodrigo_ not me 18:24:56 pitti and banshee, while we are at it *cough* 18:25:04 dobey pitti: +1 18:25:08 pitti no, let's discuss that more thoroughly 18:25:13 seb128 pitti, well, once we are there we can argue switching back to rhythmbox to claim the mono space 18:25:27 seb128 rb is already on GTK3 as well which is another win ;-) 18:25:28 pitti it's got the same problem, not ported to gtk3 etc. 18:25:31 seb128 but yeah, another topic 18:25:32 pitti which rb is 18:25:33 pitti right 18:25:48 pitti we can also announce it well 18:25:55 seb128 ok, nobody objected for tomboy 18:25:56 dobey then fixing libu1 will be an easier task for me :) 18:25:59 pitti "the default music player is now much faster to start, and uses less RAM" 18:26:07 seb128 ;-) 18:26:35 seb128 ok 18:26:38 seb128 that was it from me 18:26:42 seb128 sorry for all the extra topics 18:26:56 pitti ok, thanks everyone! I need to run out now, bbl 18:27:01 pitti seb128: no worries, thanks for covering them 18:27:06 seb128 thanks
IRC log Eastern edition
(08:31:30) jasoncwarner: bryce RAOF TheMuso robert_ancell meeting time! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2011-06-14 (08:33:36) robert_ancell: exciting! (08:33:43) TheMuso: Good morning. (08:34:07) jasoncwarner: morning....hope everyone is having a good penultimate week before the rally! (08:34:19) jasoncwarner: anyway... bryce or RAOF here? (08:34:27) jasoncwarner: [TOPIC] X.org update (08:36:19) jasoncwarner: Ok, moving on. robert_ancell can you update us on LightDM? (08:37:37) robert_ancell: still coming along. There were some crashers that people are getting, which some have been fixed in an update. I plan on releasing 0.4.0 today or tomorrow which has some more fixes. The apport crash retracer doesn't seem to be working, which is making it harder to notice and decode these crashes - bug reports remain private so I'm not seeing them (08:38:12) robert_ancell: talked with the design team last night, and they have a draft design so I can start working on a prototype greeter (08:38:51) jasoncwarner: awesome. (08:38:56) ***bryce waves (08:39:09) jasoncwarner: is it on by default now? MIR approved? (08:39:14) jasoncwarner: hey bryce (08:39:27) robert_ancell: yes, so the number of bug reports has gone up quite significantly (08:39:32) jasoncwarner: robert_ancell: :) (08:39:33) jasoncwarner: awesome (08:39:38) robert_ancell: I think you still need to opt-in when you upgrade (08:40:10) jasoncwarner: robert_ancell: thanks...good work. can't wait to see the protoype greeter as well :) broder Brumle bryce (08:40:23) jasoncwarner: bryce: want to update on Xorg now? (08:41:00) bryce: sure (08:41:34) bryce: the new xorg package is merged in; this moves the failsafe-x bits and apport hooks over the the new xdiagnose package. (08:41:59) bryce: I've been working on getting a MIR in for that, migrate it to dh_python2, etc. Hopefully should be done this week (08:42:35) bryce: I know RAOF is working on mesa but don't know what the status is for this week. 7.10.3 came out this week, but I think in oneiric we're moving to a git snapshot anyway (08:43:39) bryce: been lots of user questions about graphics/input bugs this week too (08:44:11) bryce: jasoncwarner, think that covers it (08:44:11) jasoncwarner: bryce: yeah...and I've been hearing about the general state of drivers (fwiw)... (08:44:18) jasoncwarner: thanks, bryce (08:44:37) jasoncwarner: TheMuso: care to give quick update on Accessibility and Qt specific stuff? (08:45:50) TheMuso: jasoncwarner: Well didia is dealing with the QT patch integration side, I am working with upstream to get a few license issues solved for the qt-at-spi bridge. Hope to get that done today, push the patches upstream and get them integrated, as I was asked to fix up the license stuff due to lack of time on upstream's part. Hope to upload to the archive by EOW. (08:45:59) TheMuso: Didier even TheMuso thisfred (08:46:04) jasoncwarner: TheMuso: :) (08:46:40) jasoncwarner: TheMuso: awesome...thanks! I know didrocks is going to a Qt conf end of this week to sort some remaining issues out... (08:46:45) jasoncwarner: TheMuso: thanks! (08:46:47) TheMuso: Cool. (08:46:51) TheMuso: np (08:46:59) jasoncwarner: anyone else have anything they wanted to discuss? (08:47:45) bryce: jasoncwarner, yeah one thing (08:48:04) bryce: I'm interested in gathering ideas on improvements for launchpad that would help us. (08:48:18) bryce: if anyone has ideas, please shoot them to me (08:48:52) bryce: jasoncwarner, there's a coming feature for Launchpad that promises to help make doing merges easier (08:49:04) jasoncwarner: bryce: very cool! thanks for the update :) (08:49:15) jasoncwarner: (not that I do merges, but I've read about them....in a book) (08:51:01) jasoncwarner: Ok...sounds like a wrap...anyone else (last call)? (08:51:49) jasoncwarner: alrighty then.... (08:51:52) jasoncwarner: thanks everyone! (08:51:56) jasoncwarner: [END OF MEETING]