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ubuntu-defaults-builder is now able to build bootable CDs, and ubuntu-defaults-zh-cn is in the archive. (pitti)
Jockey now displays the -updates variants of the nvidia/fglrx drivers. (pitti)
Printer drivers: Completed centralizing the code for updating the PPDs of existing queues in as a trigger in CUPS and the code for compressing PPD files as a debhelper (dh_pyppd) in pyppd. All done together with Debian developer Didier Raboud (OdyX) to appear in both Debian and Ubuntu. All printer driver packages in Main are updated now (TillKamppeter).
Ghostscript: Final fix of segfaults in the CUPS Raster output device from upstream applied (TillKamppeter).
- Firefox is now tracking the newest beta, and has a nice new shiny Apport hook which should answer a lot of the common questions we ask of bug reporters. This is going to expand a lot over the coming weeks and in to next cycle (chrisccoulson)
- Thunderbird is about to get a visual makeover, when I upload the new beta later today with the unity theme selected by default (chrisccoulson)
- GNOME 3.1.5 updates continued in Oneiric (desktop team)
- lightdm and unity-greeter got several updates including bug fixes and ui improvements (robert_ancell, mterry)
- gnome-contacts got uploaded (rodrigo, kenvandine)
- round of bug fixes this week
- ubuntuone-installer is in universe, I have reminded the U1 team they need to get the MIR submitted ASAP and it will need to get seeded on the CD.
- rhythmbox-ubuntuone-music-store, I need to make sure that gets removed
- we got a first bug fix update, dx is focussed on bug fixing and back on weekly updates until Oneiric is stable
- some extra bugs got fixed in trunk and backport to Oneiric
- new tarballs will be rolled for beta on thursday morning
- compiz got updated in Oneiric, rolling back the decorator changes and going back to a better situation, we can start stabilizing based on what we got today
IRC log Western edition
17:31:50 seb128 pitti, I'm working hard on dx to get the compiz update out, I didn't have time to update the wiki 17:32:05 seb128 I can do a live update when it's unity's turn though 17:32:09 pitti seb128: ah, great 17:32:16 pitti kenvandine: what's new on the partner front? 17:32:40 chrisccoulson kenvandine, a few people report it, but no more than usual. and most reporters descriptions are so vague that they aren't useful at all 17:33:10 chrisccoulson i haven't noticed anything though, other than the appalling IO wait i get on my machine which causes everything on my desktop to grind to a halt every time something touches the disk 17:33:43 seb128 is kenvandine lagged again this week? 17:33:50 pitti seb128: maybe you can start with unity? kenvandine seems to be busy 17:33:54 kenvandine seb128, yeah... i just got flooded... 17:34:00 seb128 yeah, can do 17:34:03 seb128 so unity 17:34:06 * kenvandine is here 17:34:18 seb128 we go a bug fix update on thursday with a bit less fixes than I was hopping to see 17:34:23 seb128 got 17:34:45 seb128 with some nagging they fixed a bunch of other issues in trunk and I backported most of those fixes in Oneiric 17:34:59 seb128 they do plan on rolling updates tomorrow for the unity stack 17:35:07 seb128 weekly updates from now on, bug fix only 17:35:32 seb128 compiz is another story, they are "testing tarballs" for some weeks but not getting out of it, I'm trying to help dbarth to get that unblocked today 17:35:50 seb128 otherwise lightdm update, what we got in Oneiric should be mostly good 17:36:00 seb128 I've backported most of trunk for lightdm and unity-greeter 17:36:19 seb128 if you have bugs that should be fixed for beta please drop an email to robert_ancell and Cc mterry he is helping him on lightdm 17:36:26 seb128 that should be it from me 17:36:34 seb128 questions? 17:36:59 chrisccoulson i'm quite concerned about how fragile compiz is at the moment 17:37:11 pitti I think we have a regression that lightdm doesn't start in the live session, otherwise it seems to behave now 17:37:18 pitti but compiz is rather dire, yes 17:37:18 seb128 chrisccoulson, we all are 17:37:31 seb128 pitti, do you know when that started? 17:37:38 pitti I don't, just saw the bug today 17:37:44 seb128 chrisccoulson, I'm trying to get those updates out today or tomorrow for compiz 17:37:50 pitti bug 831884 17:37:51 ubot2 Launchpad bug 831884 in lightdm "lightdm fails to start on Live CD on intel: [drm] failed to set drm interface version (plymouth race ?)" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/831884 17:37:55 seb128 once they are out we should have a better basis to add bug fixes 17:37:56 chrisccoulson seb128, thanks 17:38:04 * kenvandine waves again 17:38:09 seb128 hey kenvandine 17:38:41 pitti seb128: thanks for the heads-up; would be great if you could put it on the wiki? just c&p shuold be fine 17:38:43 kenvandine irc gets angry with me every tuesday, it seems 17:38:51 pitti kenvandine: back? 17:38:56 kenvandine i think 17:38:59 kenvandine :) 17:39:03 pitti kenvandine: do you have something for the partner update? 17:39:07 kenvandine partner update is on the wiki, nothing more to add 17:39:15 kenvandine except i want to chat with pitti after the meeting 17:39:18 kenvandine about the rb package 17:39:29 pitti kenvandine: u1-installer still boggles me 17:39:36 seb128 pitti, will do 17:39:38 kenvandine pitti, indeed... 17:39:53 pitti I mean, u1 is on the CD already, why do they voluntarily want to get off the CD? 17:40:02 pitti that makes it much harder to test u1 on the live system, etc. 17:40:05 pitti dobey, nessita ^ 17:40:06 kenvandine pitti, that is what it sounds like to me 17:40:18 pitti and the current version just installs the ubuntu packages anyway 17:40:27 kenvandine right... no real gain 17:40:28 pitti well, I know, not the full functionality, but at least file sync, the basics 17:40:31 kenvandine just a loss really 17:40:55 pitti but I guess it's just a preparation for the next cycle(s), when this might eventually install more stuff 17:41:04 pitti anyway, the plan for oneiric seems good to me 17:41:13 kenvandine they say the driver is to be consistent between platforms 17:41:41 * kenvandine would prefer ubuntu be better :) 17:42:16 nessita pitti and rest: I know there has been some conversations between Chipaca and I think Rick (I may be mistaken) about this. I'm not aware of the latest agreements, but the goal was to be able to ship latest version to every user, no matter what ubuntu version he/she has 17:42:33 pitti right, that's the long term goal, but not the oneiric one 17:42:50 kenvandine nessita, the agreement for oneiric is it only installs the ubuntu version 17:42:52 pitti nessita: anyway, I don't object to u1-installer, it just seems like an integration step backwards 17:43:05 pitti kenvandine: anyway, thanks for the heads-up 17:43:21 pitti Sweetshark: thanks for landing LibO 3.4, although it seems to have some build problems 17:43:32 nessita pitti, kenvandine:"as far as I know we're not dropping U1 from the O cd 17:43:38 pitti Sweetshark: anything which needs to be discussed there? blocking MIRs, the mono problem, etc? 17:43:51 pitti nessita: dobey said otherwise 17:44:32 nessita pitti: then my information is not up to date :-/ 17:44:35 kenvandine nessita, thx, i'll get clarification 17:44:54 nessita me too! :-) 17:46:54 pitti mvo: tremolux is not here, do you want to discuss s-c? 17:47:08 pitti mvo: from my side, there's a pending FFE for using the -gtk3 variant by default 17:47:26 pitti mvo: I really wouldn't like it to be the default with these banners, can we disable them for now? 17:47:37 pitti mvo: also, does it depend on pygobject 2.90, or does it work with 2.28, too? 17:49:22 pitti hmm, no Sweetshark, no mvo 17:49:58 pitti then I just have a general call for checking your remaining WIs on http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/canonical-desktop-team-ubuntu-11.10-beta-1.html 17:50:23 pitti you probably ought to have http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/u/<yourlpuser>.html in your browser, it's rather convenient 17:50:52 pitti I went through the remaining ones, and apart from https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-xorg-tools-and-processes we mostly seem to have these "last mile" remaining WIs for most specs 17:51:07 pitti *tock* *tock*, is this thing on? 17:51:12 seb128 hey 17:51:14 seb128 is it 17:51:14 mterry hi 17:51:16 * kenvandine hears you 17:51:24 pitti does anyone else have something which we should discuss? 17:51:30 seb128 yes 17:51:32 seb128 some items 17:52:02 seb128 so, first 17:52:03 seb128 pedro_, hey 17:52:12 pedro_ hey hey 17:52:15 seb128 pedro_, can you give the url to your oneiric bugs list? ;-) 17:52:22 seb128 is it on the qa namespace now? 17:52:23 pedro_ oh no they are mine! 17:52:35 seb128 well the qa build for the desktop set 17:52:35 pedro_ http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-desktop/oneiric.html 17:52:38 seb128 ^ 17:52:51 seb128 if you look for "oneiric desktop bugs" to pick on in the next weeks 17:52:54 seb128 that's a good list to use 17:53:08 seb128 those are all the bugs with an oneiric target in the desktop set 17:53:21 seb128 I know that lacked in the previous cycles 17:53:36 seb128 thanks pedro_ for working on this and making it easy to know what bugs need work ;-) 17:53:55 pedro_ seb128, my pleasure, I'm happy the team is using it :-) 17:54:01 pedro_ if you need any other similar report just let me know 17:54:08 seb128 that goes with "if you have a bug that should be on that list please nominate it for Oneiric" 17:54:15 seb128 that was my first item 17:54:31 seb128 second one I said the pitivi guys we would decide if we want to bring it back on the CD or not 17:54:36 * kenvandine waits while firefox is all gray 17:54:40 seb128 they did work on it this cycle and would like to be back there 17:54:41 * pitti bookmarks 17:55:07 seb128 I told them we would revisit the decision based on the work they did, it might rathe be an uds,next cycle thing though 17:55:08 pitti hm, how much CD space? 17:55:52 seb128 urg, 1.3mb deb it seems 17:55:55 pitti oh, on that note: we are planning a -base langpack refresh at the end of the week; with this we should get the desktops into the 703 MB limit 17:56:01 pitti but only just barely so 17:56:30 seb128 we are already pushing for other things which didn't land 17:56:37 seb128 should we just revisit pitivi at UDS? 17:56:41 pitti +1 from me 17:56:52 kenvandine +1 from me 17:56:57 seb128 ok 17:57:02 seb128 next one is gnome-contacts 17:57:08 seb128 do we try to push it on? 17:57:14 chrisccoulson pitti - if we really need to, i could switch firefox and thunderbird to use system nss and nspr for the CD 17:57:15 seb128 now would be the right time if we want it 17:57:27 chrisccoulson but i would need to upgrade them first, as they depend on the latest versions 17:57:37 chrisccoulson that's probably ~2.5MB 17:57:47 pitti chrisccoulson: chrisccoulson should win some 1.5 MB? 17:57:53 kenvandine seb128, i would be in favor of that if we know they will get it working 17:58:00 pitti chrisccoulson: oh, for tbird as well, I guess 17:58:01 chrisccoulson pitti - i think it's more like 2.5MB 17:58:03 kenvandine like adding and linking contacts 17:58:10 seb128 kenvandine, I'm pretty confident they will, alex is full time on it I think 17:58:18 pitti chrisccoulson: I was just adding deb size of libnss3 and libnspr4 17:58:18 kenvandine great! 17:58:25 seb128 or at least if not full time he has time for it 17:58:34 chrisccoulson but i'd need to switch them back pretty much straight after release, as i'd need the latest versions again 17:58:41 pitti seb128: ah, it can be tested from the archive now? 17:58:52 pitti missing contacts is a pretty major functional regression indeed 17:58:56 pitti if we can get that back, that'd be good 17:59:07 seb128 pitti, sudo apt-get install gnome-contacts 17:59:20 seb128 kenvandine, can you get the mir done? 18:00:25 seb128 pitti, ok, I think that was it from me 18:00:31 chrisccoulson remember that thunderbird can access the eds addressbook now ;) 18:00:45 seb128 oh maybe a reminder about http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20110816-oneiric.html 18:00:48 Sweetshark pitti: 1) the current build problems on arm isnt too much of an issue (if there are not others behind it 2) after discussing with some mono maintainers, IMHO it seems like we should just drop the mono-bindings as they are rarely used (do we need to announce that?) 3) MIRs: nothing needed that I know of, translate-toolkit needs to loose one suggest, I will do that. 18:00:52 chrisccoulson (there's just no UI for creating addressbooks yet) 18:00:55 pitti chrisccoulson: oh, it can? also writing? nice 18:00:59 kenvandine seb128, i can file an MIR, sure 18:01:03 seb128 kenvandine, thanks 18:01:05 Sweetshark pitti: sorry, had an emergency ping for wrt gsoc 18:01:06 chrisccoulson pitti - yeah, read and write 18:01:12 seb128 chrisccoulson, well, gnome-contacts would be an ui ;-) 18:01:17 pitti Sweetshark: dropping mono bindings> sure, there don't seem to be rdepends AFAICS 18:01:22 chrisccoulson pitti - there's just no UI for adding new addressbooks though, but that's planned 18:01:40 pitti seb128: does that use the new online accounts GNOME thing? 18:01:54 pitti by default it only shows the empathy contacts, not the e-d-s ones 18:02:18 seb128 pitti, it should show e-d-s contacts, the online account is only a way to set up your accounts 18:02:31 pitti seb128: hm, let's discuss off-meeting 18:02:41 pitti Sweetshark: thanks for the heads-up 18:02:56 seb128 ok 18:03:17 pitti AOB? 18:03:36 kenvandine not from me 18:03:49 seb128 nothing else from me 18:04:06 pitti ok, thanks everyone!