Actions from previous meeting
Actions from this meeting
- Some GNOME 3.2.1 updates and lots of bug fixes for Oneiric SRUs.
- Precise open for development, lots of good syncs and merges.
- Check current status of udisks2 for LTS inclusion evaluation, create an initial test suite. (pitti)
Set up http://ddebs.ubuntu.com, language pack PPA, and apport retracer for precise. (pitti)
- Switched Ghostscript to use liblcms2 instead of liblcms1. liblcms1 is rather buggy (segfaults, problems with color accuracy) and not maintained upstream any more. Please test. This switchover should be done for all packages which use liblcms1 (tkamppeter).
Hacked an tool to deal with design changes that have to be done upstream, downstream, or will soon land downstream. Multiple view from your perspective. Will present it a little bit more for UDS. http://people.canonical.com/~platform/design/ (didrocks)
- Dropped support for bookmark syncing, in 11.10 it still works as well as it ever did but they won't official support it as a service. In 12.04 we'll be removing the bindwood package.
Unity SRUS: libunity, unity, nux, unity-lens-applications. Full list of the release there: https://launchpad.net/unity/+milestone/4.24.0. Note that we got some additional fixes (crashes in unity-panel-service) that I got before uploading the first candidate and an UI change removal. A new SRU candidate for unity is pending the queue.
- Got some additional compiz and compiz-plugins-main fixing some regression on previous SRU candidate
- Quite some emergency SRU fix for sni-qt which can remove your $HOME directory if you fidle your env variables.
- Software Center version 18.104.22.168 SRU in-process
- Includes targeted bug and i18n fixes
- Software Center version 5.0.2 SRU coming soon
- Provides a significant startup time improvement \o/, plus additional very nice fixes
- Planning for UDS and the 12.04 cycle
IRC log Western edition
17:30:49 * bcurtiswx as a guest 17:30:52 * kenvandine waves 17:31:04 didrocks hey 17:31:06 kenvandine woot, precise! 17:31:20 mterry w00t 17:31:36 chrisccoulson and i managed my first precise uploads today :) 17:31:40 pitti but I suppose most of us will still stay on oneiric for preparing and verifying SRUs 17:31:52 * Sweetshark waves 17:31:58 pitti precise opened up exceptionally fast, but it's still very rough 17:32:38 pitti I must admit I haven't looked into UDS planning yet, jasoncwarner_ did most of it so far 17:32:49 pitti so, anything on the agenda from anyone for today? 17:32:56 pitti (I think didrocks had a topic) 17:33:20 kenvandine one thing for partner update 17:33:28 jasoncwarner_ pitti: re: UDS. I'm off this week, but I'm entering the blueprints todayish. If anyone else has some, go ahead and put them in and target them... 17:33:52 pitti jasoncwarner_: want me to do anything particular there? scheduling, accepting, reviewing, etc.? 17:34:37 jasoncwarner_ pitti: once I have them in, reviewing and accepting would be appreciated (re: keeping me honest ;)) 17:34:54 pitti jasoncwarner_: ack, sounds great; and thanks for preparing them 17:34:57 Sweetshark jasoncwarner_: did you see the LO/OOo topic proposed to Jono? 17:35:19 jasoncwarner_ Sweetshark: yeah, would you be happy to put that in and target to precise uds? 17:35:57 didrocks pitti: On my side, I don't have a topic agenda particularly, still waiting for design to move their bugs to new process, but for those interested, they can hCave a look there: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/design/. I'll present that at UDS to the team in an informal way I guess. The idea is to have a better view of what should be done in our upstream, what's should be done us, as a 17:35:59 didrocks downstream and what would land soon in ubuntu from a design perspective. 17:36:42 kenvandine didrocks, awesome! 17:37:35 pitti nice! 17:37:57 didrocks (you can click on title to expand/reduce view and can triage by column title if you didn't notice) 17:39:00 didrocks (and it has an extensive test suite against launchpad staging so we should be good for tweaking it safely) 17:40:39 pitti ok, AOB? 17:40:45 kenvandine yeah 17:40:47 kenvandine U1 has discontinued support for bookmark sync (bindwood). in 11.10 it still works as good as it has and the package will be removed for 12.04 17:40:57 chrisccoulson ah, about that 17:41:05 rodrigo_ kenvandine, cool, it never worked afair 17:41:12 kenvandine rodrigo_, right :) 17:41:14 chrisccoulson i'm also going to be shipping an empty bindwood package with the next firefox update 17:41:16 pitti kenvandine: what do we do on upgrades there? can we introduce a Breaks: somewhere to remove the package? 17:41:19 chrisccoulson (for natty and oneiric) 17:41:28 pitti chrisccoulson: err, for stables? 17:41:33 chrisccoulson pitti - yes 17:41:51 pitti "works as good as ever" didn't sound like "completely broken" 17:42:05 chrisccoulson pitti - if nobody is working on it anymore, then it's likely to break quite quickly 17:42:08 chrisccoulson (ie, break firefox) 17:42:19 chrisccoulson so i want to remove it entirely really 17:42:20 pitti yes, fine for precise, but breaking stable? 17:42:33 kenvandine pitti, well the service would still accept the sync technically 17:42:34 pitti why did U1 stop supporting it? 17:42:35 chrisccoulson pitti - yeah, it needs updating for every firefox release anyway 17:42:46 kenvandine but it just never worked well for many people 17:42:51 glatzor hello mvo, I just moved the development of the pk compat thingy to the lp:~aptdaemon-developers/aptdaemon/pkcompat2 branch and deleted the previous one (pkcompat), since the threading seems to be harder to implement than the PK compat layer and the threading branch was already merged in the pkcompat branch :) 17:42:58 kenvandine pitti, quality reasons 17:43:04 chrisccoulson and i'm not sure the U1 guys are going to be spending efforts on maintaining something for a service which isn't provided anymore 17:43:09 kenvandine http://voices.canonical.com/ubuntuone/?p=1282 17:43:25 mvo glatzor: thanks! 17:43:30 kenvandine the problem wasn't really the firefox extension 17:43:46 chrisccoulson but that's a problem if nobody is looking after it :) 17:43:54 kenvandine indeed 17:45:04 chrisccoulson pitti - do you see a problem with that? 17:45:27 pitti chrisccoulson: yes, I do, but we aren't going to solve that here and now :) 17:45:50 pitti so, thanks for the heads-up 17:45:56 chrisccoulson pitti - there are a couple of problems with leaving things the way they are: 17:46:21 chrisccoulson 1) the addon will be marked incompatible with firefox in the next release anyway, which is likely to result in confusion and bug reports 17:46:31 pitti chrisccoulson: right, under the assumption that we stop support for it, an empty package is fine 17:46:53 pitti chrisccoulson: my problem is with stopping supporting stable releases where we have committed to having these packages in main, have a paid team for it, etc. 17:47:03 kenvandine it is in universe 17:47:05 chrisccoulson 2) for people running the addon compatibility reporter, it won't be marked incompatible, which means it may start to break firefox in strange ways in the future, if we don't have anyone actively maintaining it 17:47:22 ricotz hello, is this a known debhelper problem "dpkg-shlibdeps: error: package. is not a valid version"? 17:47:25 pitti kenvandine: ah, ok; then I don't have a problem with it :) 17:47:30 kenvandine :-D 17:47:31 glatzor mvo, but I will merge it into trunk soon :) 17:47:42 pitti chrisccoulson: ok, I thought it was a supported service, nevermind me 17:47:49 kenvandine the quality was never good enough for us to put in main :) 17:47:54 chrisccoulson pitti - ah, ok. thanks 17:47:55 rodrigo_ yeah 17:47:57 seb128 ricotz, hey, try asking on #ubuntu-devel 17:48:10 chrisccoulson so, the plan is still to ship empty packages with the next firefox update to force its removal 17:48:14 seb128 ricotz, we are in a meeting (almost over, but still the question is not really desktopish) 17:48:18 chrisccoulson unless anyone else sees a problem :) 17:48:28 ricotz (seb128, oh, sorry) 17:48:29 kenvandine chrisccoulson, wfm 17:48:40 seb128 ricotz, no worry 17:48:42 pitti kenvandine: ok, thanks 17:49:01 pitti back to AOB? 17:50:21 pitti seems not 17:50:26 pitti then thanks everyone!