20110420
DistributedDevelopment steering meeting held in #ubuntu-meeting on 2011-04-20 at 1100 UTC. Note the time change.
Chair: barry
Apologies
Agenda
- Attendance/apologies
- Action items
- jam to propose/report plan for quilt imports
poolie to talk to LOSAs about getting new bzrs rolled out to jubany (done)
barry to send email about meeting times given dst dance (done)
- Package importer progress
- Bugs of interest:
- Any other business?
Summary
- bzr upgraded to 2.3.1 on jubany
- an LP service issue caused some spikes in import failures
- impressive number of bugs fixed
- faster working trees from jam
- many git and hg fixes from jelmer
- bzr-builddeb fixes
watch file support \o/
- build from branch into ppa as a intermediate milestone
New Actions
- poolie to send link to plenary proposal. all to help finish that
Log
<barry> #startmeeting <MootBot> Meeting started at 06:04. The chair is barry. <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] <barry> hello and welcome to this week's udd steering committee meeting <barry> [TOPIC] agenda <MootBot> New Topic: agenda <barry> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistributedDevelopment/20110420 <MootBot> LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistributedDevelopment/20110420 <barry> not a whole lot on the agenda, but let's dive right in <barry> [TOPIC] action items [07:05] <MootBot> New Topic: action items <barry> * jam to propose/report plan for quilt imports <barry> i know jam wanted to keep this on the agenda, so let's come back to it if he joins us later <poolie> gosh, what a good idea <poolie> yep <barry> * poolie to talk to LOSAs about getting new bzrs rolled out to jubany [07:06] <poolie> next? <poolie> ah, yes, i did <barry> poolie: eta? <poolie> i think it's unblocked and waiting in their queue <poolie> let me find it <poolie> already done! <barry> wow, fantastic! <poolie> thanks to spm and maxb [07:07] <poolie> hm it's still on hardy <barry> poolie: what are the big wins with the upgrade? <poolie> so that took us to 2.3.1 apparently <james_w> the main thing was that it fixed a bug that was causing a lot of import failures IIRC <james_w> I don't know what we upgraded from though <poolie> which is the latest on the 2.3 series [07:08] <poolie> it was 2.3.0~beta5-0~1.ISPATCHED.8.04 <barry> [LINK] http://package-import.ubuntu.com/status/ <MootBot> LINK received: http://package-import.ubuntu.com/status/ <poolie> so, a fair bit of stuff including some of jam's memory usage improvements <barry> cool, thanks [07:09] <barry> * barry to send email about meeting times given dst dance '''(done)''' <barry> <barry> and here we are :) <barry> [TOPIC] * Package importer progress <MootBot> New Topic: * Package importer progress <barry> see link above <poolie> the specific thing it fixes is https://bugs.launchpad.net/udd/+bug/726584 [07:10] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 726584 in Bazaar "flash-kernel import fails apparently mismatching maverick and natty branches" [Critical,Fix released] <poolie> hm, not a lot of changes this last week i think <poolie> aside from that one <barry> import failures appear to have a little spike right at the end [07:11] <poolie> there was a big canonical network hardware outage which caused some failures last week <james_w> an LP service issue seems to have spiked in failures <poolie> i see a lot of connectionreset type errors <poolie> that would be good to look in to <poolie> also for better re-scheduling <james_w> likely just needs a ./requeue_package.py --auto kiwi [07:12] <poolie> shall i just run that now? <james_w> you could remove the --auto and add --priority to see if that one succeeds, and then run that command on another to retry the rest <barry> anything else of interest in package importer status? <poolie> no <barry> [TOPIC] bugs of interest <MootBot> New Topic: bugs of interest <barry> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~mbp/kanban/canonical-bazaar-kanban.html [07:15] <MootBot> LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~mbp/kanban/canonical-bazaar-kanban.html <poolie> so, a fair number of bugs fixed <barry> as always, an impressive amount of work! <poolie> faster working trees from john <poolie> many git and hg fixes from jelmer <poolie> oh and bzr-builddeb *** ivanka (~ivanka@91.189.88.12) has quit: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [07:16] <barry> jelmer: do you think now would be a good time to re-try the import of python's hg? <poolie> do you two want to mention any in particular? <poolie> oh, not really a bug, but we did get the 2.2 SRU into maverick <poolie> we still need to push through 2.1 into lucid <poolie> 2.0 is essentially eol now that karmic is <jelmer> barry: unfortunately I haven't had time to land it on launchpad yet as I was planning [07:17] <jelmer> barry: It should happen this week instead. <james_w> it's great to have watch file support, thanks for that jelmer! <barry> jelmer: cool, no worries. thanks <jelmer> barry: I'll try to remember to ping you when I do <barry> james_w: seconded. i've already used it twice and it ROCKS <barry> jelmer: thanks <jelmer> thanks, that's great to hear <barry> anything else on bugs of interest? [07:18] <poolie> 'warn when out of date' is still high on my list <poolie> lp is shortly going to deploy a change that should make things more stable when branches are renamed [07:19] <poolie> james mentioned um <barry> really great to hear! <poolie> https://bugs.launchpad.net/udd/+bug/766757 <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 766757 in Ubuntu Distributed Development "creating mps for collisions isn't helpful" [High,Confirmed] <poolie> to me, which is not the whole story in itself <poolie> but a string we can pull on to make the package importer better [07:20] <poolie> i was really happy to see michaelh1 summarize some performance issues and then jam fixed many of them <poolie> hm, what else <poolie> any nominations for bugs we ought to do next? [07:21] <barry> just the out-of-date warning one from me <jelmer> poolie: +1, it's really exciting to see those performance fixes from John <barry> [TOPIC] * Any other business? [07:22] <MootBot> New Topic: * Any other business? <poolie> let's see <poolie> UDS [07:23] <poolie> do we know sessions are booked? <poolie> and, if we're going to do a short plenary, we should prepare one <poolie> i don't know if they have been chosen yet <jelmer> the session appear to be booked [07:24] <barry> agreed about the plenary. they're really short this year. i think 15m max. can we do something reasonable in 15m? <poolie> i think so but it will have to be well chosen <poolie> obviously not a tutorial <jelmer> confirmed we have 3 sessions booked <poolie> yet not waffle <barry> why don't we add an action item for all of us to think about a plenary session, and we can brainstorm next meeting (which will be the week before uds)? [07:25] <poolie> k <poolie> let's do more than just think :) <james_w> I think plenaries have to be proposed before then :-( <poolie> let's send some outlines <barry> poolie: +1 [07:26] <poolie> i have proposed one, i just do not have slides yet <barry> poolie: can you send a link to your proposal and we can use that to start off with? we can help w/slides too <poolie> sure <barry> [ACTION] poolie to send link to plenary proposal. all to help finish that [07:28] <MootBot> ACTION received: poolie to send link to plenary proposal. all to help finish that <barry> (hopefully that captures it ;) <barry> any thing else for today? <poolie> gosh [07:29] <poolie> we got a lot of good feedback <poolie> i still have a few flagged to reply to <poolie> i don't know good answers to all of them off hand <poolie> for instance the thread on ubuntu-desktop about switching to merge-mode versioning, which is good, but raises questions <poolie> jelmer: anything else from you? [07:30] <jelmer> no, though I should probably have a look at that ubuntu-desktop thread <poolie> i would appreciate that <jelmer> ok [07:31] <poolie> oh, of course, there was one more <poolie> bfbia; can you talk about that jelmer? [07:32] <jelmer> ah, good point <jelmer> We've talked about build from branch into primary earlier. There are some things that still need to be ironed out for that, in particular the security requirements. [07:33] <jelmer> There is another milestone that would be useful to aim for, and for which all the requirements seem to be clear - building from branch into a PPA [07:34] <jelmer> The changes to e.g. bzr-builder, the buildds and the API we have to make for this are the same as for bfbip. [07:35] <poolie> i think it would be a good step towards it [07:36] <james_w> that's not already there? <poolie> it's essentially recipes with a null recipe <poolie> is that a fair way to describe it? <james_w> ok <jelmer> poolie: yeah, I think so <jelmer> james_w: also, e.g creating. .orig.tar.gz is not supported at the moment [07:37] <james_w> right <james_w> so building a "distribution-acceptable package" in to a PPA <jelmer> james_w: yeah, basically [07:38] <poolie> that's a good metric for it <poolie> so then to go from that to 'into primary archive' is mostly <jelmer> and with the same constraints we set for bfbip - an API call to request them and without requiring a recipe <poolie> getting approval it's an ok thing to allow <poolie> possibly more security checks- <poolie> ... teaching lp to put the source into there, which apparently is a small change [07:39] <barry> sounds good, thanks for the update. anything else for today? <poolie> i think that's it <poolie> it's late here <jelmer> nothing else from me <barry> #endmeeting [07:42]
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