DistributedDevelopment steering meeting to be held in #ubuntu-meeting on 2011-07-27 at 1200 UTC.

Chair: barry

Apologies

Agenda

• Attendance/apologies
• Action items

  • jelmer to study the feasibility of merge helper (bug 608675) as an intermediate step for quilt support

  • jelmer to look into bug 609187 (warn when package import is out of date) (done)

  • jelmer to post summary of user visible changes with lp rollout (done)

  • jelmer to post feature summary about inline diffs (done)

  • riddell to update udd docs to use bzr tag instead of bzr mark-uploaded (done)

• Package importer progress
• Bugs of interest:

  • See http://people.canonical.com/~mbp/kanban/canonical-bazaar-kanban.html

• Any other business?

Summary

• solution to bug 609187 looks awesome. will be sru'd back to lucid

• multi tarball support is almost done for package importer

• next meeting is sept 7th at 1100 utc

New Actions

• barry to coordinate w/riddell about updating the ubuntu packaging guide for new bug 609187 feature

Log

<barry> #startmeeting  [08:00]
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<barry> hi folks.  i think we may have had a time snafu, but is anybody around
        for the udd stakeholders meeting today?
<james_w> hi
<barry> hi james_w, i know poolie was around a bit ago  [08:02]
<poolie> oh hi
<poolie> i'm here
<barry> hi.  any word from jam, vila, jelmer, riddell?  [08:03]
<barry> btw, while we're waiting did anybody see the article on git linked
        from /. today?  once again bzr gets shorted.  /me resolves to write
        his "why bzr rocks" article  [08:04]
<barry> [TOPIC] agenda  [08:05]
<MootBot> New Topic:  agenda
<barry> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistributedDevelopment/20110727
<MootBot> LINK received:
          https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistributedDevelopment/20110727
<jelmer> hi
<barry> hi jelmer 
<barry> i guess we should just jump in then...  [08:06]
<barry> [TOPIC] action items
<MootBot> New Topic:  action items
<barry>    * jelmer to study the feasibility of merge helper
        ([[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bzr-builddeb/+bug/608675|bug 608675]])
        as an intermediate step for quilt support
<barry> 
<ubottu> Ubuntu bug 608675 in bzr-builddeb "merge-package should have support
         for manipulating quilt v3 patch stacks" [High,In progress]
<jelmer> jam and i are goibg to pair on that when he gets back from holiday
                                                                        [08:07]
<barry> awesome
<barry>    * jelmer to look into
        [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/udd/+bug/609187|bug 609187]] (warn when
        package import is out of date)
<barry> 
<ubottu> Ubuntu bug 609187 in Ubuntu Distributed Development "users are not
         warned when branching ubuntu:foo (or lp:ubuntu/foo) and the package
         import of foo is out of date" [High,Fix released]
<barry> i think the new bzr.dev feature addresses this, right?  oh, and it's
        awesome  [08:08]
<poolie> yes, john fixed it, and it is great
<poolie> it also starts a new much faster lp api client
<poolie> currently covering one api point i think :)
<barry> :)  yes, it's really great.  any thoughts on back porting this feature
        to released bzr?  [08:09]
<poolie> yes, that should be pretty easy
<poolie> i think it was done based off an old branch
<poolie> i had some concern about whether it would be seen as in the spirit of
         srus
<poolie> it probably is ok though
<poolie> certainly a welcome feature
<poolie> shall we put it in everything back to lucid?
<barry> i can understand the hesitation to sru a new feature, but this one
        really is a significant help to udd packagers, so i'd vote for "yes"
                                                                        [08:10]
<jelmer> me too
<jelmer> though how many packagers are on lucid?  [08:11]
<barry> jelmer: that's a good point, probably not many.  but i'd say
        definitely sru to natty
<poolie> i guess they may well be running it within a chroot or on a vm
<barry> at least
<poolie> or on a canonical dc machine ofr that matter
<poolie> i'll add a note on the bug  [08:12]
<barry> thanks.  we should also update the new packaging guide, because it
        will really simplify things.  is Riddell up for that?  if not, i can
        do it (once it lands in natty and oneiric at least)  [08:13]
<poolie> yes, he's been doing a lot of work on it
<poolie> i don't know if he's here right now
<poolie> we should mention it
<barry> he's been doing *fantastic* work on the guide (i've reviewed a bunch
        of his branches).  i'll take an action to coordinate with him  [08:14]
<barry> [ACTION] barry to coordinate w/Riddell about updating the guide for
        bug 609187 feature
<MootBot> ACTION received:  barry to coordinate w/Riddell about updating the
          guide for bug 609187 feature
<ubottu> Launchpad bug 609187 in Ubuntu Distributed Development "users are not
         warned when branching ubuntu:foo (or lp:ubuntu/foo) and the package
         import of foo is out of date" [High,Fix released]
         https://launchpad.net/bugs/609187
<barry>    * jelmer to post summary of user visible changes with lp rollout
<barry> 
<barry>    * jelmer to post feature summary about inline diffs  [08:15]
<barry> 
<barry> jelmer: do you remember these?
<jelmer> I dont remember these
<poolie> he's only intermittently connected
<poolie> i think really we can put this on mrevell who does blog.l.n  [08:16]
<poolie> but, perhaps we want to share it with ubuntu-devel or something?
<jelmer> I was only a bit involved with them
<barry> poolie: do you think we need to do anything special or will the normal
        lp feature rollout announcement machinery take care of it? ;)  [08:17]
<poolie> i don't think we should do anything special
<barry> cool.
<poolie> i think the announcements will get at least onto planet ubuntu
<jelmer> yeah, they do
<barry>    * riddell to update udd docs to use {{{bzr tag

instead of