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| * '''Launchpad Entry''': https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/foo | * '''Launchpad Entry''': https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/easy-codec-installation |
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| At the moment the messages about not supported formats have no indication on what codecs/packages you need to installation to be able to read the corresponding file. It would be nice to make easy for user to install the corresponding package. == Rationale == The current message is not useful for users, we should make it easy to play their files rather trying to explain what they are trying to do doesn't work on a fresh installation. |
Messages about unsupported gstreamer formats are currently unhelpful. This utility assists users in installing the packages needed to use those formats. |
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| * Frederic used to use window. He has a usbkey player with mp3 files on it. He plugs it on his new Ubuntu installation, a nautilus window is opened on it which is great. He doubles clicks on one of the file as usually and get this weird window saying that totem doesn't know about "mp3". He wonders why is that happening and what he has to do to play his files. * Vincent who tried to play some movie trailers from the Apple website just got a window with no movie and a message saying that this format is not supported. He asks what to do to his friend Sebastien who installed the required package an they watched the videos. It should be easy to get that working without having to ask to somebody else what do to. |
* Frederic is a new Linux user on DSL. He attempts to open an mp3 file through a gstreamer application and receives an assistant to help him download and install the needed codecs. * Vincent, also new to Linux, is not on the internet. He attempts to open a QuickTime file and is given a different assistant with instructions on how to download the files he needs from an official Ubuntu mirror, and an offer to locate file if he already has a copy handy. |
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| * rhythmbox * sound-juicer * totem |
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| This assistant appears on an as-needed basis, and may also be presented by an application's first run if all supported plugins are not installed. That is, when the player encounters a codec which it is unable to play without additional packages, it will display the assistant to the user. The assistant will include a database mapping codecs to packages, so that it can find an appropriate package to install if one is available. If a package is known to provide support for a codec, but the package is not available from any known source, it should be displayed but grayed out. If the user is not a member of the admin group, and is thus unable to install packages, the program should instead display a message indicating that attention is needed from an administrator in order to install the necessary software. ''This application requires additional plugins to use this file.'' [''Certain countries may have laws making the installation of these plugins illegal. _link_ may help in determining what steps, if any, must be taken by you to legally install these plugins in your jurisdiction.''] || Plugin || Install || || Frobinator Audio || [checkbox] || || Frobinator Video || [checkbox] || ''[Install] [Do nothing]'' It should not be necessary to restart the application after the plugin has been installed. |
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We must compile a database of the codecs which are supported by each package. This list is believed to be short enough that we may compile the database by hand in order to ship it with the package. It may also be feasible to automatically generate it based on the gstreamer registry. |
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| === Data preservation and migration === | There is some work being done on this upstream for Rhythmbox: See [http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=338308 Gnome bug 338308]. This is very similar to our approach, but we would prefer to implement it directly in gstreamer, in order to support other applications as well. Guadalinex includes a program called hermes which uses dbus to request installation of software. If we use hermes for other purposes, this program will use its facility for installing packages. Otherwise, it can simply call out to synaptic. In order for most of the interesting packages to be available, multiverse must be enabled. The matter of arranging for these packages to be installed, regardless of the apt configuration, will be addressed in [http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/enabling-additional-components Enabling additional components]. |
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| == BoF agenda and discussion == | Kubuntu doesn't currently use gstreamer for its media players, so it won't benefit from this until that changes. Apparently, the issue is that they need porting to gstreamer 0.10. == Suggestions from VideoPlaybackRoadmap == ATM, when you try to play an unhandled video with totem, it tells you that he cannot found the corresponding plugin. What I suggest he must do is : - Tell you what format you are trying to view and what plugin you need. - If available with apt-get, it must suggest "Install this plugin now", so you can install the corresponding plugin in one click. - If not available via apt-get for known issues (patents), it must explain why it is not avalaible and offer a "click here to know more" that send you to a page on this wiki (or on the website), telling you how to install w32codecs, libdvdcss, ... (it can perhaps download and install it automatically after asking you if you are in a country with software patents) The web (or wiki) page is fine for me IF AND ONLY IF this solution implicates an easy localization & translation of the installation instructions. IMHO, this solution is not a solution if the non-English user needs to read English instructions about installing weird things like w32codecs, libdvdcss... -- RicardoPérezLópez Another way is to have a standalone application that manage gstreamer plugins - What about developing "dummy" plugins which somehow trigger the display of a message explaining the problem? It could be possible to have fake libraries which either play beck an audio clip or video clip (these things are either decoding audio, video, or both) with directions as to what the problem is, and the individual plugin packages could simply obsolete the dummy plugins / libraries... It seems reasonable to assume that the user will have sound support if he's trying to play back a sound file, and video support if he's trying to play back a video file. ''This would cause some fairly large issues with many GStreamer-based applications that do more than simple playback. It would (for example) confuse music players that require users to "import" tracks before they can be played. -- JamesLivingston '' also see DesktopTeam/CommonInstallHook --SamTygier ---- CategorySpec |
Launchpad Entry: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/easy-codec-installation
Created: 2005-11-02 by SebastienBacher
Contributors: SebastienBacher
Packages affected: rhythmbox, sound-juicer, totem
Summary
Messages about unsupported gstreamer formats are currently unhelpful. This utility assists users in installing the packages needed to use those formats.
Use cases
- Frederic is a new Linux user on DSL. He attempts to open an mp3 file through a gstreamer application and receives an assistant to help him download and install the needed codecs.
Vincent, also new to Linux, is not on the internet. He attempts to open a QuickTime file and is given a different assistant with instructions on how to download the files he needs from an official Ubuntu mirror, and an offer to locate file if he already has a copy handy.
Scope
All gstreamer applications
Design
This assistant appears on an as-needed basis, and may also be presented by an application's first run if all supported plugins are not installed. That is, when the player encounters a codec which it is unable to play without additional packages, it will display the assistant to the user. The assistant will include a database mapping codecs to packages, so that it can find an appropriate package to install if one is available. If a package is known to provide support for a codec, but the package is not available from any known source, it should be displayed but grayed out.
If the user is not a member of the admin group, and is thus unable to install packages, the program should instead display a message indicating that attention is needed from an administrator in order to install the necessary software.
This application requires additional plugins to use this file.
[Certain countries may have laws making the installation of these plugins illegal. _link_ may help in determining what steps, if any, must be taken by you to legally install these plugins in your jurisdiction.]
Plugin |
Install |
Frobinator Audio |
[checkbox] |
Frobinator Video |
[checkbox] |
[Install] [Do nothing]
It should not be necessary to restart the application after the plugin has been installed.
Implementation
We must compile a database of the codecs which are supported by each package. This list is believed to be short enough that we may compile the database by hand in order to ship it with the package. It may also be feasible to automatically generate it based on the gstreamer registry.
Code
There is some work being done on this upstream for Rhythmbox: See [http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=338308 Gnome bug 338308]. This is very similar to our approach, but we would prefer to implement it directly in gstreamer, in order to support other applications as well.
Guadalinex includes a program called hermes which uses dbus to request installation of software. If we use hermes for other purposes, this program will use its facility for installing packages. Otherwise, it can simply call out to synaptic.
In order for most of the interesting packages to be available, multiverse must be enabled. The matter of arranging for these packages to be installed, regardless of the apt configuration, will be addressed in [http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/enabling-additional-components Enabling additional components].
Outstanding issues
Kubuntu doesn't currently use gstreamer for its media players, so it won't benefit from this until that changes. Apparently, the issue is that they need porting to gstreamer 0.10.
Suggestions from VideoPlaybackRoadmap
ATM, when you try to play an unhandled video with totem, it tells you that he cannot found the corresponding plugin. What I suggest he must do is :
- Tell you what format you are trying to view and what plugin you need. - If available with apt-get, it must suggest "Install this plugin now", so you can install the corresponding plugin in one click. - If not available via apt-get for known issues (patents), it must explain why it is not avalaible and offer a "click here to know more" that send you to a page on this wiki (or on the website), telling you how to install w32codecs, libdvdcss, ... (it can perhaps download and install it automatically after asking you if you are in a country with software patents)
The web (or wiki) page is fine for me IF AND ONLY IF this solution implicates an easy localization & translation of the installation instructions. IMHO, this solution is not a solution if the non-English user needs to read English instructions about installing weird things like w32codecs, libdvdcss... -- RicardoPérezLópez
Another way is to have a standalone application that manage gstreamer plugins
- What about developing "dummy" plugins which somehow trigger the display of a message explaining the problem? It could be possible to have fake libraries which either play beck an audio clip or video clip (these things are either decoding audio, video, or both) with directions as to what the problem is, and the individual plugin packages could simply obsolete the dummy plugins / libraries... It seems reasonable to assume that the user will have sound support if he's trying to play back a sound file, and video support if he's trying to play back a video file.
This would cause some fairly large issues with many GStreamer-based applications that do more than simple playback. It would (for example) confuse music players that require users to "import" tracks before they can be played. -- JamesLivingston
also see DesktopTeam/CommonInstallHook --SamTygier
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