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Meeting March 8, 2006
01:01 JaneW hi everyone 01:01 JaneW who is here 01:01 JaneW ? === ogra hides 01:02 flint JaneW, flint is flint... good morning, my girl child is vacationing from school, life is hell === jelkner is Jeffrey Elkner 01:03 JaneW ogra: get*back*here! 01:03 ogra heh 01:03 ogra but i dont have much to tell today ... 01:03 JaneW highvoltage: you in the house? 01:03 JaneW pips1_away had to leave 01:03 jelkner JaneW: don't let him lie to you, she dragging him to concerts and stuff... life's a *blast*! === highvoltage is here!!!! 01:03 JaneW is mhz, spacey or jsgotangco here? 01:03 JaneW and no kjcole 01:03 JaneW ok let start anyway 01:04 jelkner kjcole was at FOSE 01:04 jelkner he may not make it here today 01:04 JaneW ogra: please start, can you do a quick 2 week summary, since I was away last week? 01:04 flint I did see George Clinton last night (note not the ex-president:^) 01:04 ogra hum ... 01:04 ogra i need to dig up last week then .... 01:05 flint JaneW, last week we ended the meeting early remember Ollie? 01:05 JaneW ogra: ok just this week then if it's a problem === JaneW does not believe it! 01:05 highvoltage flint: uhm, your previous president was Bill Clinton, not George Clinton ;) this week i was mainly busy with fixing gnome-screensaver bugs ... there is not 01:05 ogra much to tell for it ... last week i built the first edubuntu-docs package with highvoltages docs and cared for the CD 01:06 JaneW highvoltage 's docs? what the tuXlabs troubleshoot guide? 01:06 flint highvoltage, jonathan it should have been George Clinton. P-Funk would have been his cabinet. 01:06 highvoltage flint: :) 01:06 ogra over the weekend i did the last ltsp merges fro other peoples branches, this was the last merge, now ltsp wont change much apart from bugsfixing 01:06 highvoltage JaneW: it's pre-release updates to our howto, which included some Edubuntu stuff 01:07 flint ogra, you got a flight to test? 01:07 highvoltage JaneW: ogra cleaned it up a bit and packaged it, in order to achieve first draft status in time, iirc 01:07 JaneW nice, thanks 01:07 ogra flint, flights are announced on the mailing list 01:07 ogra i doubt there will be one within this week ... 01:07 flint ogra, just wanted you to know I am ready. 01:07 flint :^) 01:08 ogra note that producing a flight takes two full workdays for me ... === highvoltage apt-gets edubuntu-docs 01:08 ogra i cant bear to loose two days of a week currently 01:08 ogra highvoltage, it has a bug, i'll fix it today 01:08 JaneW ogra: when do we expect the next flight? Next week possibly? 01:08 ogra but feel free to send me changes 01:09 highvoltage ogra: where can i get the ubuntu docs on my system? 01:09 flint excellent work you two. my only question is does the apt-get alter the default page of the browser to show the docs? 01:09 JaneW how is our testing and bug fixing going this cycle? 01:09 ogra JaneW, likely ... i dont know what Kamion does, i guess he wants espresso in shape before the next flight 01:09 flint ..to reveal the docs... 01:09 JaneW yes espresso is his main priority, infinity may do the next flight 01:09 ogra highvoltage, /usr/share/ubuntu-docs/ i think 01:09 highvoltage flint: i would suggest that the main page link to the docs 01:10 highvoltage ogra: ok thanks, i looked in /edubuntu-docs/ 01:10 ogra flint, it will 01:10 flint highvoltage, bingo. I know how to do this... 01:10 ogra highvoltage, you asked for ubuntu-docs :) 01:10 flint ogra, ...and so do you... thanks. 01:11 highvoltage ogra: oops! ogra, I can't find the edubuntu docs :/ 01:11 ogra apart from that i'm currently fiddling with the artwork package === highvoltage looks inside package :) 01:11 ogra there must be 2 html pages 01:11 ogra but they have a bug, the patch is wrong ... i havent looked into it yet 01:12 ogra *path 01:12 ogra if you cant find them, just get the source packlage 01:12 highvoltage ogra: i got it, i think i was to hasty in getting there 01:12 ogra apt-get source edubuntu-docs === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 01:13 spacey hi ;o 01:13 JaneW ogra: how is the roadmap to the release looking? Do you want to publish something on the wiki? 01:13 JaneW hi spacey 01:13 highvoltage oosh. /me finds some old typos. 01:13 ogra not yet ... i'm to busy with ubuntu stuff ... 01:13 highvoltage ogra: can I just make changes to that html file, and send it back to you? 01:13 ogra the screensaver still needs a lot of love 01:13 ogra yup 01:14 ogra thats why i picked html ... 01:14 highvoltage ok excellent. 01:14 flint ogra, I am really sorry I missed mdz's performance in London - not! :^) 01:14 ogra we can convert it later into something sane 01:14 ogra (and if we miss that we still have html :) ) 01:14 highvoltage yep :) (i'm completely fine with html) 01:15 ogra oh, i'm working on a edubuntu menu logo, many people were intrested in that 01:15 highvoltage ogra: about the testing, do you feel that we need more testing, and can you elaborate on where we need more testing? 01:15 JaneW so where does that leave us ito the cook book? 01:15 ogra highvoltage, all the time ... 01:15 flint highvoltage, I standby ready to test. 01:15 JaneW ogra: yay thanks - re logo, that will help 01:16 ogra highvoltage, major area is ltap and indeed the edu stuff that distinguishes use from ubuntu 01:16 highvoltage ogra: i've been testing it quite intensely for the last week or so, and I can't find new things that's wrong with it anymore 01:16 flint ogra, ltap == ltsp? 01:16 ogra JaneW, it doesnt look much different ... i even doubt people recognize the difference at this size ... 01:16 highvoltage cross bewteen ldap and ltsp?" 01:16 ogra flint, yes 01:17 flint ogra, so inventing new protocols again eh? :^) === mhz [n=mhz_chil@moinmoin/fan/mhz] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 01:17 ogra highvoltage, the fix for the ssh-key creation sould be in the package this week ... so there will be testinstalls needed 01:17 JaneW ogra: I think ppl notice it's not right, but may not notice when it is... 01:17 ogra JaneW, yep 01:18 jelkner ogra: what does ltap stand for? 01:18 ogra for a typo 01:18 flint jelkner, it was a typo!! 01:18 jelkner sorry ;-) 01:18 ogra s is aside a on my keyboard ... :) 01:19 highvoltage JaneW: on the cookbook question, i think that dapper won't include the entire cookbook, just the software and technical module updates from tuxlab howto 2.0 01:19 JaneW ok, but does that mean all the other cook book effort was in vain, or will that still be used? 01:19 highvoltage ogra: can you confirm that i'm correct there? 01:19 highvoltage JaneW: it will still be used 01:19 jelkner JaneW: have you seen the wiki? 01:19 ogra highvoltage, yes 01:19 JaneW ok, good === JaneW is glad 01:20 highvoltage JaneW: the new modules will just be swallowed by the work already done 01:20 JaneW jelkner: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuDocumentation/EdubuntuCookbook ? 01:20 ogra JaneW, its just not ready enough yet ... 01:20 jelkner JaneW: and it won't be by release 01:20 JaneW ogra: ok, so we can publish it on the wiki then etc 01:20 jelkner the cookbook is shaping up to be a community document 01:20 ogra but we wont ship without docs, thats why we coose the current path 01:20 highvoltage JaneW: but we will have the basic documentation covered 01:21 jelkner it will evolve as users submit "recipes" on how they use Edubuntu 01:21 JaneW jelkner: ok, but let's not lose momentum and let it die out. It needs to be finished and used === ogra still needs to put a day into the ltsp specifics ... 01:21 JaneW ok 01:21 highvoltage which covers installation, troubleshooting, basic tweaking, some very basic administration, etc. 01:21 spacey how to get online 01:21 spacey :P 01:21 jelkner JaneW: kevin and i plan to continue meeting to work on it 01:21 spacey to look for more docs 01:21 ogra hehe 01:22 jelkner but it will be much easier for us *after* dapper is released 01:22 jelkner we won't have to write about a moving target 01:22 highvoltage i think the edubuntu cookbook is a big job, i have confidence in flint's drive in it 01:22 JaneW jelkner: excellent, thank-you :)) 01:22 ogra jelkner, but everything you wrote is obsolete then 01:22 highvoltage (and jelkner and kevin, of course) :) 01:22 ogra since we have a new moving target 01:22 jelkner ogra: why? 01:22 JaneW jelkner: I thought you liked a challenge 01:22 JaneW jelkner: but point taken 01:23 JaneW jelkner: so you'll finish just in time to start the next version 01:23 highvoltage perhaps it's just a bigger challenge for ogra to keep good backward compatibility with settings :) 01:23 JaneW ? === JaneW hides 01:23 jelkner lol 01:23 highvoltage this version is a bigger job than future versions, 01:23 spacey anyway i fill fix up the hardware requirements page of the cookbook before next meeting 01:23 highvoltage because the first version was based on K12-LTSP 01:23 ogra jelkner, 80% of the stuff i'd have written for breezy would have to be wiped for dapper the distro changes with every release 01:23 spacey that worksheet is completely empty btw 01:23 JaneW spacey: thanks 01:23 highvoltage once it's edubunturised, it will be easier to update 01:23 jelkner as it grows, it will be easier to update 01:23 JaneW oh and congrats to spacey 01:23 spacey does it correspond with the work that has been done? 01:23 spacey JaneW: thanks :) 01:23 JaneW he was granted ubuntu memebership yesterday 01:24 highvoltage what's currently the biggest challenge with the cookbook? 01:24 highvoltage spacey: cool, congrats! 01:24 spacey yey thanks 01:24 spacey :P 01:24 jelkner highvoltage: getting people to submit recipes 01:24 flint never forget the groucho marx quote "I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members." 01:24 flint :^) 01:24 highvoltage ah, right. it's more than just a howto, right? it contains a bunch of mini-howto's too? 01:25 jelkner highvoltage: exactly 01:25 highvoltage jelkner: i could get you some tuxlab-specific recipies, which could be modified. 01:25 jelkner https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuDocumentation/EdubuntuCookbook 01:25 spacey well you need to cover the basics first 01:25 mhz spacey: wow! congrats!! 01:25 jelkner highvoltage: go for it 01:25 spacey mhz: ty:) 01:26 highvoltage jelkner: i'll try to have it upline before the end of the meeting 01:26 spacey https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuDocumentation/EdubuntuCookbook/Worksheet <<-- almost empty 01:26 highvoltage *online 01:27 flint spacey, congratulations on the membership btw... 01:27 spacey ty 01:27 flint ok, regarding the book, I think what you lack is an editor. 01:28 highvoltage flint: i thought you were the editor? 01:28 jelkner flint: kevin and i will do that 01:28 JaneW highvoltage: no jelkner and kjcole are editing 01:28 flint highvoltage, see what i mean? writers love to be editors... 01:28 spacey jelkner: maybe add an extra column which describes the status(completed, wip, etc) for each chapter to the worksheet. 01:28 flint like programmers love to be developers... 01:28 JaneW spacey: that's a good idea 01:28 jelkner good idea, spacey, i'll add that presently... 01:29 highvoltage flint: if i love to create, what does that make me? 01:29 JaneW jelkner: : you can use my cool colours too 01:29 JaneW highvoltage: a father? 01:29 JaneW *duck* 01:29 flint jelkner, you are the writer, not the editor. an editor manages the work. 01:29 highvoltage JaneW: eh.. not yet, no :) 01:29 JaneW highvoltage: sorry, just kidding 01:29 highvoltage :) 01:29 flint JaneW, you do as good a job of this as anyone... but I would say your plate is full. 01:30 JaneW I could look at *some* of it 01:30 highvoltage you know, when it comes to writing, there's nothing like a bit of pressure 01:30 JaneW but can;t volunteer for the whole job as I'd never manage to finish it 01:30 flint highvoltage, it makes you a jewel, a pearl of rare price... 01:30 highvoltage what about setting a deadline, even if it's unreasonable, for say, the end of April for a complete first draft? 01:31 jelkner ok, status column is there. kjcoloe and i will update that this sunday 01:31 spacey maybe also add some quality control, personally i think each chapter should at least be checked twice by other persons. a tech person and a grammer nazi. 01:31 highvoltage and then we make someone like flint the editor and give him the whip? 01:31 flint highvoltage, indeed a writer needs a fixed goal. 01:31 flint highvoltage, oh i so much prefer the blade... 01:31 highvoltage spacey: absolutely 01:31 highvoltage flint: that can be arranged 01:32 flint JaneW, or deadline is march 26 or so. where is that url? 01:32 JaneW https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseSchedule 01:32 flint thank you jane 01:32 JaneW March 23rd 01:32 JaneW Doc Freeze 01:33 spacey so 01:33 highvoltage i don't think it's realistic that a high-quality, finished document will be available by then :/ 01:33 flint JaneW, indeed i misspoke from memory. 01:33 spacey thats hard work :P 01:34 flint highvoltage, you can have it good, cheap or fast. pick two. 01:34 highvoltage flint: good, cheap 01:35 highvoltage perhaps we should arrange another meeting for docs? 01:35 highvoltage JaneW: time to move on? 01:35 JaneW highvoltage: yes 01:35 JaneW ok, web site? 01:35 highvoltage sure. 01:35 highvoltage the proto.edubuntu.org.za is set up 01:36 JaneW but we can't see it... === flint listening to elkner whine on voice... 01:36 highvoltage i'll send the username and passowrd to everyone with gpg keys on launchpad soon 01:36 JaneW highvoltage: ok thanks :) 01:36 highvoltage there's not much to see at the moment, Znarl could only give me login access to the server today 01:36 JaneW highvoltage: so how does it look? 01:36 highvoltage so the theming fun will only start from now 01:36 JaneW oic 01:37 highvoltage JaneW: like a very dull plain drupal site 01:37 JaneW highvoltage: have you got your ideas worked out? 01:37 highvoltage JaneW: due to change shortly 01:37 JaneW great 01:37 highvoltage JaneW: yep, mostly. 01:37 highvoltage JaneW: i haven't worked out how they'll fit in with philips plans, but we'll make it work. 01:37 JaneW ok, are the 2 of you in contact? 01:38 highvoltage JaneW: yes, almost every day 01:38 JaneW there are only about 5 weeks to get everything sorted, with Easter in between 01:38 JaneW highvoltage: excellent thanks 01:38 highvoltage Easter is probably when I'll get the bulk of it done 01:38 highvoltage i'd like to get the theming and layout sorted ASAP 01:38 JaneW oh... yay then 01:38 highvoltage and then pump in content, especially over easter 01:38 highvoltage when people stop bothering me 01:39 JaneW are you wroking independently from the official 6.04 theme? 01:40 JaneW highvoltage: also we are thinking about using that wallpaper I showed earlier - esp if the guy tones it down a notch 01:40 highvoltage i looked at the style-guides, apart from that, i haven't seen a 6.04 theme yet 01:40 JaneW for the young version anyway 01:40 highvoltage JaneW: i think he'll need to tone it down quite drastically, it won't look nice in a lab if it's repeated over 20+ PC's, but i'll send him my suggestions as well 01:41 JaneW ogra: which one will be the dfeault again? the older one? 01:41 highvoltage ogra: with theming, at one stage it was discussed that debconf will ask which art set you want. is that dapper+1? (i'm thinking cd space here) 01:41 ogra JaneW, mid age+ 01:41 highvoltage edubuntu girl :) 01:41 JaneW ogra: right 01:41 ogra highvoltage, nope 01:42 ogra we'll install mid age by default 01:42 JaneW highvoltage: so that wouldn't be in a lab unless the young one is chosen 01:42 highvoltage ok. 01:42 ogra the admin can dpkg-reconfigure the edubuntu-artwork package 01:42 JaneW highvoltage: I expect home users are more loikely to chose the young install 01:42 highvoltage ogra: will all the wallpapers be installed by default, so that a user can choose another one? 01:42 JaneW highvoltage: but can you contact him? or should I? 01:42 ogra highvoltage, yep 01:42 highvoltage JaneW: I don't mind contacting him 01:42 JaneW highvoltage: cool thanks - you have a better artistic eye too :) 01:43 highvoltage JaneW: I think i will regardless, but you can contact him too if you want 01:43 highvoltage JaneW: :) 01:43 JaneW highvoltage: you negotiate the changes, and I'll negotioate that he's happy we ship with it (if we do). Ok? 01:43 JaneW flint: and you will be happy that it's diversity sensitive 01:43 highvoltage JaneW: yes sir! 01:43 highvoltage erm.. mam! === licio [firstname.lastname@example.org] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 01:44 highvoltage JaneW: i'll check with the diversification as well ;) 01:44 highvoltage but we can make sure that the others are happy too 01:44 flint JaneW, absolutely. 01:44 JaneW highvoltage: we'll def get a vote on it first 01:44 JaneW it will NOT be on my head this time 01:45 highvoltage JaneW: of course 01:45 JaneW we are talking about a modification of this btw http://art.ubuntu.com/images/backgrounds/Edubuntu-Children_Of_Edubuntu_1024x768.png 01:45 JaneW for the Junior wallpaper 01:46 highvoltage i'm going to suggest that he makes the heads much smaller, put them at the left halfway in the brown part 01:46 highvoltage with the edubuntu logo at the right 01:46 highvoltage then make the hill smaller, and add some more hills 01:46 highvoltage and put the rainbow on the hill thats closest to the edubuntu logo. 01:46 ogra be carefull with the red logo on the green background 01:46 highvoltage something like that, and then we modify from there 01:47 highvoltage ogra: yeah, the edubuntu logo will have to be more or less completely in the brown 01:47 highvoltage ogra, JaneW: are we very strict that the edubuntu logo should keep its colours? 01:47 ogra or add a drop shadow if you put it on green ... just dont put it plain into the green 01:47 highvoltage if you look at the Ubuntu wallpaper, they modified the logo to fit in with the wallpaper 01:48 highvoltage ogra: ok. i agree. === mhz silently whishes everyone uploaded SVG's + png's or jpg's 01:48 JaneW highvoltage: yes the logo is the logo now, we can;t tinker with it 01:49 JaneW highvoltage: so yo are saying he must totally change it! lol (but I agree) 01:50 highvoltage JaneW: no, not totally change it, just possible fade it, or make the colours more neutral 01:50 JaneW yup, agreed 01:50 highvoltage JaneW: like Ubuntu's artwork 01:50 JaneW the hues on the current wall paper are nice 01:50 highvoltage they are. they remind me of mario brothers, somehow. makes me nostalgic. 01:50 mhz :) 01:51 highvoltage it has an element of fun that other distro's don't have 01:51 JaneW yup 01:51 JaneW it's very discriminatory though 01:51 JaneW makes me feel marginalised 01:52 JaneW because they have no noses ;) 01:52 JaneW lol 01:52 mhz lol --> EdubuntuGirl_1024x76..> 31-Dec-1969 19:00 56K 01:52 JaneW mhz: oh! 01:52 JaneW gosh, ok edubuntu - the distro with no nose 01:53 ogra damned 01:53 ogra we'll get tons of complaints again highvoltage: when I could finally upload/submit 1 wallpaper for edubuntu dapper (1 01:54 mhz month ago or so) it was never shown. Was that too ugly? Then I tried to upload 2 more... unsuccessfully 01:54 highvoltage ogra: we'll just cut off their noses, then they can't complain 01:54 JaneW ok, do we have anymore real topics to discuss? 01:54 highvoltage mhz: the people on your wallpapers had noses. this is unacceptable! 01:54 mhz lol 01:54 highvoltage mhz: where did you upload it, can we have a look again? 01:55 mhz highvoltage: a.u.c 01:55 JaneW mhz: to the artwork site? 01:55 mhz it took me like 10 minutes to figure out how to do it :( 01:55 JaneW mhz: they were prolly never processes - I will log in and look... 01:56 mhz JaneW: it is ok, I usually end up disliking my ideas for artwork when I look at them after 2 weeks :) 01:56 ogra yeah they need an admin to promote them 01:56 JaneW hrm, if I find my login I will do it 01:56 ogra just FYI: 01:56 mhz lol 01:56 ogra http://www.acc.umu.se/technical/statistics/ftp/total.html.en 01:56 ogra thats the download stats for the swedish mirror 01:57 ogra according to it, edubuntu was downloaded 842005 times sucessfully from there between 3 NOV and today 01:57 ogra err yesterday 01:58 mhz hmm, why there are 5 wallpapers dated 1969, same person? === jeang [email@example.com] has left #ubuntu-meeting  01:58 ogra they are from the early days of ubuntu ;) 01:58 mhz ogra: is that little or lot?\ 01:58 mhz ogra: lol 01:58 highvoltage ogra: oh my word, that's a *lot* of edubuntu downloads! 01:58 ogra eighthundrethousand ? 01:58 ogra is that little or lot ? 01:59 ogra :) === highvoltage wonders if it's right 01:59 mhz ooohhhhhhh, times downloaded!!!!????? 01:59 highvoltage it's more than 9 terrabytes of download, if i read correctly 01:59 ogra we're still 40000 behind Kubuntu :) === mhz is still under effects of pills so he's very sloooooowwww 01:59 mhz (more than usual) 02:00 mhz ogra: could that info be wrong? 02:00 mhz or not accurate? 02:00 ogra unlikely 02:00 JaneW ogra: oh we told silbs 100 000, when we should have said 1 000 000 02:00 mhz maybe 'tries' to be donwloaded? 02:00 JaneW but that sounds WAY too high to me 02:00 ogra thats a very big university, i think they get the stats for their servers right 02:01 ogra JaneW, look in #c :) 02:01 ogra i dont think the stats are wrong ... 02:01 ogra (we might interpret them wrongly though... but i doubt that) 02:01 highvoltage JaneW: in this case, our estimates of a few thousand was way pesimistic this morning :) 02:01 JaneW ogra: what you posted here is magnitude of 10 more 02:01 ogra yes === mhz whishes at least 100 of them were teachers providing feedback 02:02 ogra but what we looked at was a weekly stat 02:02 JaneW goeie genaade! 02:02 ogra so it sounds about right 02:03 mhz JaneW: will edubuntu be shipped this tiem? === highvoltage must go now, thanks everyone 02:03 mhz time 02:03 mhz highvoltage: c ya 02:03 ogra yes 02:03 flint later jonathan!!! 02:03 JaneW mhz: not yet official 02:03 ogra only the install CD though 02:03 JaneW mhz: but a probable yes 02:03 JaneW *bounce* 02:04 JaneW bye highvoltage 02:04 ogra (make that a *very* likely) 02:04 JaneW thank-you 02:04 mhz JaneW: what does this depend on? 02:04 JaneW mhz: management 02:04 ogra mhz, management decisions 02:04 mhz again? 02:04 mhz hehehe 02:04 ogra always 02:05 ogra but its pretty sure already that we'll get it 02:05 JaneW mhz: that's how companies work :P 02:05 mhz will ubuntu design guys provide CD artwork? 02:05 mhz ubuntu = caninial 02:05 mhz canonical 02:06 mhz .oO(sloppy fingers!) 02:09 mhz hello? 02:09 JaneW mhz: I *think* so === ogra hasnt heard anything yet 02:09 JaneW ok is this meeting over? 02:09 ogra i'd think so === jsgotangco [firstname.lastname@example.org] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 02:10 JaneW mhz: but if the compnay ships them officially, I think the packaging will be official too 02:10 JaneW jsgotangco: good timing :P 02:10 ogra even jsgotangco comes to clean up the room ... must be over 02:10 ogra :) 02:10 JaneW ogra: hahaha 02:10 mhz JaneW: then, no need to provide it via community? 02:11 JaneW mhz: not AFAIK 02:11 jsgotangco eh? 02:11 jsgotangco i just finished the day with an edubuntu talk 02:11 ogra cool :) 02:12 ogra jsgotangco, you missed the download stats look for edubuntu: http://www.acc.umu.se/technical/statistics/ftp/total.html.en 02:12 ogra :) 02:12 jsgotangco nnohting to report for me for now till i make an upload this weekend 02:12 spacey :) 02:12 jsgotangco i'll make you guys busy next week 02:13 jsgotangco ZOMG 02:13 jsgotangco Average Bytes Transmitted Daily2,411,884,642,509 02:13 sivang still edubuntu? :) 02:13 flint sivang, we are just breaking up... 02:13 flint JaneW, expect an email. sksk === ogra_ [n=ogra@p5089EE4C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === mhz [n=mhz_chil@moinmoin/fan/mhz] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] === Hirion [email@example.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 02:16 JaneW sksk? 02:16 JaneW thanks everyone 02:17 jsgotangco cheers